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Rumor: Schaub out for the year (1 Viewer)

Leinart finally gets a shot with a good team and HUCKS just started a 6-month timeout. Life is good. :lol:
This one is a lot better than the one with 2 great WR's that a well past his prime Warner was able to win playoff games with?What motivation does this guy have to do anything more than collect his paycheck as a backup and pork hot chix?Trust me, Leinart is as disappointed about this injury as everyone else.. now he goes from his cushy clipboard job to getting scrutinized by teh media all over again.And he knows this failure could end his career
Not sure I agree with this. He coulda gone to seattle for the same money and never seen the field. I think he wants his shot and has the team to do it. Yes if he fails miserably that would perhaps end his career, but no one wants to fade out into oblivion and never get their chance to be a star.
 
Leinart finally gets a shot with a good team and HUCKS just started a 6-month timeout. Life is good. :lol:
This one is a lot better than the one with 2 great WR's that a well past his prime Warner was able to win playoff games with?What motivation does this guy have to do anything more than collect his paycheck as a backup and pork hot chix?Trust me, Leinart is as disappointed about this injury as everyone else.. now he goes from his cushy clipboard job to getting scrutinized by teh media all over again.And he knows this failure could end his career
Not sure I agree with this. He coulda gone to seattle for the same money and never seen the field.
Is it your position that he thought he had a better chance at starting by beating out Schaub than Tarvaris/Whitehurst?
 
Leinart finally gets a shot with a good team and HUCKS just started a 6-month timeout. Life is good. :lol:
This one is a lot better than the one with 2 great WR's that a well past his prime Warner was able to win playoff games with?What motivation does this guy have to do anything more than collect his paycheck as a backup and pork hot chix?Trust me, Leinart is as disappointed about this injury as everyone else.. now he goes from his cushy clipboard job to getting scrutinized by teh media all over again.And he knows this failure could end his career
Not sure I agree with this. He coulda gone to seattle for the same money and never seen the field.
Is it your position that he thought he had a better chance at starting by beating out Schaub than Tarvaris/Whitehurst?
Yes. 3rd on the depth chart, or 2nd on the depth chart of a very injury prone qb.
 
Leinart finally gets a shot with a good team and HUCKS just started a 6-month timeout. Life is good. :lol:
This one is a lot better than the one with 2 great WR's that a well past his prime Warner was able to win playoff games with?What motivation does this guy have to do anything more than collect his paycheck as a backup and pork hot chix?Trust me, Leinart is as disappointed about this injury as everyone else.. now he goes from his cushy clipboard job to getting scrutinized by teh media all over again.And he knows this failure could end his career
Not sure I agree with this. He coulda gone to seattle for the same money and never seen the field.
Is it your position that he thought he had a better chance at starting by beating out Schaub than Tarvaris/Whitehurst?
Yes. 3rd on the depth chart, or 2nd on the depth chart of a very injury prone qb.
Leinart wasn't 2nd on the depth chart when he signed with Houston.
 
Leinart finally gets a shot with a good team and HUCKS just started a 6-month timeout. Life is good. :lol:
This one is a lot better than the one with 2 great WR's that a well past his prime Warner was able to win playoff games with?What motivation does this guy have to do anything more than collect his paycheck as a backup and pork hot chix?Trust me, Leinart is as disappointed about this injury as everyone else.. now he goes from his cushy clipboard job to getting scrutinized by teh media all over again.And he knows this failure could end his career
Not sure I agree with this. He coulda gone to seattle for the same money and never seen the field.
Is it your position that he thought he had a better chance at starting by beating out Schaub than Tarvaris/Whitehurst?
Yes. 3rd on the depth chart, or 2nd on the depth chart of a very injury prone qb.
Leinart wasn't 2nd on the depth chart when he signed with Houston.
So you honestly think he chose to stay in Houston because he had less of a chance to become the starter and he wanted to stay as a backup?
 
Leinart finally gets a shot with a good team and HUCKS just started a 6-month timeout. Life is good. :lol:
This one is a lot better than the one with 2 great WR's that a well past his prime Warner was able to win playoff games with?What motivation does this guy have to do anything more than collect his paycheck as a backup and pork hot chix?Trust me, Leinart is as disappointed about this injury as everyone else.. now he goes from his cushy clipboard job to getting scrutinized by teh media all over again.And he knows this failure could end his career
Not sure I agree with this. He coulda gone to seattle for the same money and never seen the field.
Is it your position that he thought he had a better chance at starting by beating out Schaub than Tarvaris/Whitehurst?
Yes. 3rd on the depth chart, or 2nd on the depth chart of a very injury prone qb.
Leinart wasn't 2nd on the depth chart when he signed with Houston.
So you honestly think he chose to stay in Houston because he had less of a chance to become the starter and he wanted to stay as a backup?
I can't speak to what Leinart "wanted". I only know that Leinart was Houston's #3 QB last season, and when he re-signed with Houston in July they had 4 QBs on the roster.Actually, you want to know what I think might have happened? I think he was on the verge of signing with Seattle. I think he was certain that he could beat out Charlie Whitehurst. But I think Pete Carroll told him that they also wanted to sign Tarvaris Jackson and that it would be an open competition for the starting gig. And I think Leinart realized that there were too many factors stacked against him in Seattle -- not only would he have to beat out 2 guys, but both those guys already knew the playbook and one of them was the pet project of Seattle's offensive coordinator.So, having lost the battle before it even began, he retreated to Houston and signed a 1-year-deal. Not because he actually thought he had a better chance of getting playing time, but because a one-year deal in Houston would put him in a better position to find a starting gig in 2012 than if he had signed a multi-year deal in Seattle.
 
Whoever started this thread, tyvm and to those almost baiting for a timeout should the info prove wrong...all I can say is that not all of us can be by a computer 24/7 and I am just getting in from work and it was awesome to find this in the SP and be able to access the info. We should encourage this not make it scary for folks to post up possible inside info in here. Good stuff.
Well said MoP. :thumbup: I also think it was in bad taste for the moderators who wanted to close this thread, because it was clearly labeled a rumor. I have seen Staff members put stuff in the shark pool labeled rumor before.
 
To be fair... when the Texans gave Leinart the contract they did, I think everyone knew he was the #2. The only question was who would be cut, Orlovsky or Yates. I can't imagine Leinart and his agent signing anywhere without talking to the team first about where he'd be on the depth chart.

So I wouldn't argue someone saying he signed this year as the #2.

 
Actually, you want to know what I think might have happened? I think he was on the verge of signing with Seattle. I think he was certain that he could beat out Charlie Whitehurst. But I think Pete Carroll told him that they also wanted to sign Tarvaris Jackson and that it would be an open competition for the starting gig. And I think Leinart realized that there were too many factors stacked against him in Seattle -- not only would he have to beat out 2 guys, but both those guys already knew the playbook and one of them was the pet project of Seattle's offensive coordinator.
Don't forget Leinart's noodle arm. That wouldn't play well in the Northwest, where it's often rainy and windy.
 
Leinart finally gets a shot with a good team and HUCKS just started a 6-month timeout. Life is good. :lol:
This one is a lot better than the one with 2 great WR's that a well past his prime Warner was able to win playoff games with?What motivation does this guy have to do anything more than collect his paycheck as a backup and pork hot chix?Trust me, Leinart is as disappointed about this injury as everyone else.. now he goes from his cushy clipboard job to getting scrutinized by teh media all over again.And he knows this failure could end his career
Not sure I agree with this. He coulda gone to seattle for the same money and never seen the field.
Is it your position that he thought he had a better chance at starting by beating out Schaub than Tarvaris/Whitehurst?
Yes. 3rd on the depth chart, or 2nd on the depth chart of a very injury prone qb.
Leinart wasn't 2nd on the depth chart when he signed with Houston.
So you honestly think he chose to stay in Houston because he had less of a chance to become the starter and he wanted to stay as a backup?
I can't speak to what Leinart "wanted". I only know that Leinart was Houston's #3 QB last season, and when he re-signed with Houston in July they had 4 QBs on the roster.Actually, you want to know what I think might have happened? I think he was on the verge of signing with Seattle. I think he was certain that he could beat out Charlie Whitehurst. But I think Pete Carroll told him that they also wanted to sign Tarvaris Jackson and that it would be an open competition for the starting gig. And I think Leinart realized that there were too many factors stacked against him in Seattle -- not only would he have to beat out 2 guys, but both those guys already knew the playbook and one of them was the pet project of Seattle's offensive coordinator.So, having lost the battle before it even began, he retreated to Houston and signed a 1-year-deal. Not because he actually thought he had a better chance of getting playing time, but because a one-year deal in Houston would put him in a better position to find a starting gig in 2012 than if he had signed a multi-year deal in Seattle.
Just for information's sake (there is logic this post), but Matt L. signed 2 years almost 4 million guaranteed with the Texans for 2011.http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Texans-reach-deal-with-quarterback-Matt-Leinart-2079870.phpThe Texans are not guaranteeing quarterback Matt Leinart $3.75 million to be the third-team quarterback for the second consecutive season.By getting Leinart to agree to a two-year contract worth $5.5 million, the Texans have shown they are planning to use him as the backup quarterback behind Matt Schaub.Dan Orlovsky, who has backed up Schaub the last two years, could be the odd man out.The Texans will keep three quarterbacks. T.J. Yates, a fifth-round pick, is expected to be the third-team quarterback if he performs well in camp and preseason.Leinart didn't throw a pass in his one season with the Texans. He signed a one-year deal after Arizona waived him. The Texans' coaches saw enough of him in practice and in the class room to offer him the two-year contract he can't sign until Friday — the first day unrestricted free agents can re-sign with their old team or sign with a new team."I am excited to be a Texan,” Leinart said on his Twitter account. “Ultimately, I had to do what was best for me at this point. People can question the decision, but it was the right one for me. I love the organization, coaching staff and my teammates. Excited to get back to Reliant tomorrow and get back to work.”When coach Gary Kubiak told Leinart he wanted him back after the season, the quarterback told him he wanted to sign with a team that would give him a chance to start. Seattle, coached by his former Southern California coach Pete Carroll, seemed the most likely candidate.When the Seahawks agreed with Tavaris Jackson to compete with Charlie Whitehurst, it cleared the way for the 28-year-old Leinart to return to the Texans.Drafted by Arizona in 2006 out of USC, Leinart could never duplicate the same success he experienced as a Trojan. His rookie season was his finest by far, when he started 11 of 12 games and completed 57 percent of his passes for 2,547 yards and 11 touchdowns against 12 interceptions.But he fell out of favor in the desert during the following years. Last year, the Cardinals released him, but the Texans quickly pounced. Despite being repeatedly lauded by Kubiak during the season for his preparation, Leinart was never able to overtake Orlovsky for the role of Schaub's primary backup, failing to log a single snap.
 
Just for information's sake (there is logic this post), but Matt L. signed 2 years almost 4 million guaranteed with the Texans for 2011.
Yes, my mistake on that. But I still think it was a retreat on Leinart's part. He would have signed with Seattle if they didn't sign Jackson.
 
Leinart finally gets a shot with a good team and HUCKS just started a 6-month timeout. Life is good. :lol:
This one is a lot better than the one with 2 great WR's that a well past his prime Warner was able to win playoff games with?What motivation does this guy have to do anything more than collect his paycheck as a backup and pork hot chix?Trust me, Leinart is as disappointed about this injury as everyone else.. now he goes from his cushy clipboard job to getting scrutinized by teh media all over again.And he knows this failure could end his career
Not sure I agree with this. He coulda gone to seattle for the same money and never seen the field.
Is it your position that he thought he had a better chance at starting by beating out Schaub than Tarvaris/Whitehurst?
Yes. 3rd on the depth chart, or 2nd on the depth chart of a very injury prone qb.
Leinart wasn't 2nd on the depth chart when he signed with Houston.
So you honestly think he chose to stay in Houston because he had less of a chance to become the starter and he wanted to stay as a backup?
I can't speak to what Leinart "wanted". I only know that Leinart was Houston's #3 QB last season, and when he re-signed with Houston in July they had 4 QBs on the roster.Actually, you want to know what I think might have happened? I think he was on the verge of signing with Seattle. I think he was certain that he could beat out Charlie Whitehurst. But I think Pete Carroll told him that they also wanted to sign Tarvaris Jackson and that it would be an open competition for the starting gig. And I think Leinart realized that there were too many factors stacked against him in Seattle -- not only would he have to beat out 2 guys, but both those guys already knew the playbook and one of them was the pet project of Seattle's offensive coordinator.So, having lost the battle before it even began, he retreated to Houston and signed a 1-year-deal. Not because he actually thought he had a better chance of getting playing time, but because a one-year deal in Houston would put him in a better position to find a starting gig in 2012 than if he had signed a multi-year deal in Seattle.
You are very likely correct. What I was commenting on was the poster who hinted that Leinart would rather be the backup this year and collect pressure free money, then be a starter. No way.
 
Some things from a PFT video chat with John McClain.

Schaub will be seeing a specialist. If he needs surgery there won't be any chance of playing again this season. But not likely he'll be back.

Schaub has been playing through injuries for the last month. Because of this the Texans reduced his practice reps to let him rest more, so Leinart has actually had about half of the 1st team reps for the last month which should help.

On facing extra men in the box to stop Foster, yes the Texans expect that and Eric Winston commented they've been facing that already much of the year. The first play touchdown against the Bucs was one example Winston gave of when they had 8 in the box.

On Florio's view about they should bring in Favre, McClain thinks Kubiak likes Leinart too much and that Kubiak will call plays to play to Leinart's strengths and minimize his weaknesses.

Texans don't have any plans to sign a veteran yet, at least until they know for sure about Schaub. McClain has no idea who they might be looking at if they were going to sign one.

 
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Some things from a PFT video chat with John McClain.Schaub will be seeing a specialist. If he needs surgery there won't be any chance of playing again this season. But not likely he'll be back.Schaub has been playing through injuries for the last month. Because of this the Texans reduced his practice reps to let him rest more, so Leinart has actually had about half of the 1st team reps for the last month which should help.On facing extra men in the box to stop Foster, yes the Texans expect that and Eric Winston commented they've been facing that already much of the year. The first play touchdown against the Bucs was one example Winston gave of when they had 8 in the box.On Florio's view about they should bring in Favre, McClain thinks Kubiak likes Leinart to much and that Kubiak will call plays to play to Leinart's strengths and minimize his weaknesses. Texans don't have any plans to sign a veteran yet, at least until they know for sure about Schaub. McClain has no idea who they might be looking at if they were going to sign one.
possible landing spot for Garrard?
 
Some things from a PFT video chat with John McClain.Schaub will be seeing a specialist. If he needs surgery there won't be any chance of playing again this season. But not likely he'll be back.Schaub has been playing through injuries for the last month. Because of this the Texans reduced his practice reps to let him rest more, so Leinart has actually had about half of the 1st team reps for the last month which should help.On facing extra men in the box to stop Foster, yes the Texans expect that and Eric Winston commented they've been facing that already much of the year. The first play touchdown against the Bucs was one example Winston gave of when they had 8 in the box.On Florio's view about they should bring in Favre, McClain thinks Kubiak likes Leinart to much and that Kubiak will call plays to play to Leinart's strengths and minimize his weaknesses. Texans don't have any plans to sign a veteran yet, at least until they know for sure about Schaub. McClain has no idea who they might be looking at if they were going to sign one.
possible landing spot for Garrard?
Not Garrard anyway... he had back surgery and is out until next year. That was why Oakland didn't sign him when Campbell first went down.
 
They'd bring back Rosenfels if Schaub gets IR'ed.
Dolphins placed QB Sage Rosenfels (illness) on the Reserve/Non-Football Illness list, ending his season.Alex Marvez of FOX Sports reports Rosenfels had a recurrence of the illness that sidelined him in August. With Matt Moore battling bruised ribs, the Dolphins were forced to add a healthy quarterback. Rosenfels will be a free agent entering his age-33 season in 2012. Oct 25 - 2:44 PM
 
They'd bring back Rosenfels if Schaub gets IR'ed.
Sage is currently the back up to Matt Moore in Miami.ETA Joe Steeler beat me to it, and I must have missed Sage got deactivated, huh.
 
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For what it's worth, Rosenfels is on IR due to a relapse of the same blood disorder that sidelined him in training camp. In theory, if the illness is back in remission then he could get cut by Miami and re-sign with Houston.

 
For those dropping Schaub this week, who are you targeting as his replacement? The best options on my WW right now are Bradford, Dalton, Ponder and (ugh) Leinart. Right now that's how I have them ranked but I keep going back and forth between Bradford and Dalton. Love Bradford's potential but he's been pretty bad so far. What are other Schaub owners doing?

 
For those dropping Schaub this week, who are you targeting as his replacement? The best options on my WW right now are Bradford, Dalton, Ponder and (ugh) Leinart. Right now that's how I have them ranked but I keep going back and forth between Bradford and Dalton. Love Bradford's potential but he's been pretty bad so far. What are other Schaub owners doing?
Already have Bradford on my roster, and might be trading for Cutler. If I don't get that done (don't want to give up Ben Tate), I might grab Skelton, but I'd probably roll with Bradford this week. I'd probably put Dalton just over Bradford in your case, but he's got a bad matchup this week vs BAL.
 
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For those dropping Schaub this week, who are you targeting as his replacement? The best options on my WW right now are Bradford, Dalton, Ponder and (ugh) Leinart. Right now that's how I have them ranked but I keep going back and forth between Bradford and Dalton. Love Bradford's potential but he's been pretty bad so far. What are other Schaub owners doing?
Already have Bradford on my roster, and might be trading for Cutler. If I don't get that done (don't want to give up Ben Tate), I might grab Skelton, but I'd probably roll with Bradford this week.
That's where I'm leaning assuming I get Bradford off Waivers. I forgot about Skelton. I may include him on my bids. I'm not convinced the Cardinals will stick with him and it's not a great matchup this week against the 49ers but given the drop-off from Schaub I'm going to get I may have to go week-to-week at that QB spot anyway.
 
Here is part of a Stephania Bell article that goes into some detail on LisFranc injuries.http://espn.go.com/fantasy/blog/_/name/bell_stephania/id/7238539/schaub-cassel-likely-done-season

According to the Houston Chronicle, coach Gary Kubiak indicated Schaub's injury happened during a quarterback sneak. "Somebody fell on the back of his foot, and his foot got caught in the pile," Kubiak said. A force placed on the heel while the athlete's forefoot is fixed firmly on the ground (picture a push-off position with the heel in the air at the time the load is sustained) is the most common mechanism for this type of injury in football. It is often difficult for the athlete to continue to play, and in the most serious situations, it is virtually impossible to bear weight. The surprise with Schaub, who managed to play the majority of the game in spite of the second-quarter injury, came Monday when the team discovered just how significant the injury was. According to the Chronicle, the Texans were "stunned" by the news.Other noteworthy players have suffered Lisfranc injuries -- some severe enough to require surgery -- and have returned to play, although in some cases not to their prior level of play. Running backs Ronnie Brown (injured while a member of the Miami Dolphins in 2009) and Kevin Jones (injured while with the Detroit Lions in 2006) went through lengthy rehabilitation efforts, as did Indianapolis Colts defensive end Dwight Freeney, who was injured in 2007. Although the term "Lisfranc" is more easily recognizable now that several prominent athletes have suffered the injury, what it describes remains a mystery to most. Many have asked on Twitter "What exactly is a Lisfranc?" to which the only response is that the answer deserves more than 140 characters. To help explain the complexity of the injury, along with the origin of its unique name, I returned to an entry I wrote in 2007 when Freeney was recovering from his surgery:So what is this thing they call a Lisfranc injury? There is a region in the middle of the foot where the long bones of the forefoot (metatarsals) articulate with the small tarsal bones in the middle of the foot. This joint is thus called the tarsometatarsal joint. It is also referred to as the Lisfranc joint.Why? Frenchman Jacques Lisfranc, a field surgeon in Napoleon's army, described an amputation technique through this region to address forefoot gangrene following frostbite. There is also the story that soldiers wounded in battle would fall from their horses, but a foot would often remain caught in the stirrup, right at that tarsometatarsal joint. Such an injury often resulted in amputation of part of the foot, from the injured joint forward. In fact, amputation to that region still bears the same name (although NFL players, thankfully, don't need part of their foot amputated when they suffer Lisfranc injuries).Since NFL players aren't riding horses, how does this injury happen to them? There are several mechanisms for this type of injury, but in sports, especially football, the primary scenario is that the player is running forward, with his weight on the ball of his foot, and he gets hit or stepped on from behind against his heel. The resultant force through the portion of the foot in between the ball and the heel (midfoot) causes it to buckle, and the midfoot is injured.Are all Lisfranc injuries the same? No. In fact, the name Lisfranc refers to the region of the foot, not necessarily the severity of the injury. By virtue of its important location (the midfoot essentially forms the arch), any injury to this region needs to be taken seriously. That said, not all Lisfranc injuries are created equal. When the midfoot buckles, the ligaments that connect the various bones can become damaged. Ligament injury without any bony impact would be the mildest version of a Lisfranc injury. The problem is that damage to the ligaments can affect the relative position of the bones in the area, and they can shift or dislocate, which is often accompanied by a fracture. Now it's getting more serious. In the worst-case scenario, an artery passing over that area can also be damaged, affecting blood supply to the foot. A shift of the bony alignment typically requires surgery to realign the joint and provide stability. Failure to do so can result in chronic instability and pain, eventually leading to major arthritis in the area. Even with surgery, it appears that people who have suffered a significant Lisfranc injury are more at risk for arthritis down the road, simply because of the trauma to the joint.The bottom line is that players who suffer these injuries must have their treatment managed carefully, not only with surgery, but in the postsurgical rehabilitation process as well.
 
Matt Schaub is on local radio. Not much useful info on the injury other than he was adamant the injury isn't career threatening after being told there had some been some rumors of it. Toed the company line not revealing anything about prognosis so far, his opinion of Leinart, etc.

The most interesting thing was they were asking him about when the injury happened and if he'd watched the tape and such. Schaub said he had and you could see it happen on the tape and it was clear it was just an accident, not someone who saw his foot and thought they'd take out the QB.

When pressed a little, Schaub admitted it was Albert Haynesworth.

 
Matt Schaub is on local radio. Not much useful info on the injury other than he was adamant the injury isn't career threatening after being told there had some been some rumors of it. Toed the company line not revealing anything about prognosis so far, his opinion of Leinart, etc.The most interesting thing was they were asking him about when the injury happened and if he'd watched the tape and such. Schaub said he had and you could see it happen on the tape and it was clear it was just an accident, not someone who saw his foot and thought they'd take out the QB. When pressed a little, Schaub admitted it was Albert Haynesworth.
It may not be career ending, but it's career debilitating. He'll never be the same. The dreaded lisfranc spares no one.
 
For those dropping Schaub this week, who are you targeting as his replacement? The best options on my WW right now are Bradford, Dalton, Ponder and (ugh) Leinart. Right now that's how I have them ranked but I keep going back and forth between Bradford and Dalton. Love Bradford's potential but he's been pretty bad so far. What are other Schaub owners doing?
Right now I have Tebow as my QB2. I'm actually targeting Dalton or McCoy...not too many options unfortunately. Bradford showed some signs of life last week but I think Dalton has better weapons right now with Gresham and AJ Green
 
Is everyone considering Schaub done for the year or is there hope he may only miss a few weeks?

 
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Is everyone considering Schaub done for the year or is there hope he may only miss a few weeks?
If there is hope it's probably small. If he has to have surgery he's done for the year.For him to come back during the regular season and be of fantasy use is probably not too likely.They are getting additional opinions and won't make a decision on course of treatment probably until next week.
 
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Is everyone considering Schaub done for the year or is there hope he may only miss a few weeks?
I think he's done for the season. I cut him today and picked up Leinart (over Bradford and Dalton). It's 100% a roll of the dice and throw it on the wall and hope it sticks but plenty of smart football people seem to think Leinart can play well as their starter. I also figure that this season has been so completely nuts that it wouldn't be a surprise at all if Matt Leinart became a viable fantasy option.
 
For those dropping Schaub this week, who are you targeting as his replacement? The best options on my WW right now are Bradford, Dalton, Ponder and (ugh) Leinart. Right now that's how I have them ranked but I keep going back and forth between Bradford and Dalton. Love Bradford's potential but he's been pretty bad so far. What are other Schaub owners doing?
Right now I have Tebow as my QB2. I'm actually targeting Dalton or McCoy...not too many options unfortunately. Bradford showed some signs of life last week but I think Dalton has better weapons right now with Gresham and AJ Green
Best options in my league are Grossman, Gabbert, and Moore, so naturally I'm buying Leinart. Should anyone care, Schaub has been my QB2 for a while now behind Tebow.
 
Leinart finally gets a shot with a good team and HUCKS just started a 6-month timeout. Life is good. :lol:
LOL what did LHUCKS do/what bet did he lose?
He bet that Joe Bryant hated the SEC as much as he does.
:yes: And he lost.
Awesome :lmao:
:goodposting: Loved Joe Bryant ending it with "Deal with it"

Like we've had to for the past several years. Thank you for finally putting your foot down. The guy is unbearable during the fall/winter sports seasons. Glad he won't be around for this one.

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I'd rank Leinart around QB15-18. Good enough supporting cast (with Foster & a healthy Andre) to score a few RZ TD's so his low yardage could be offset a bit by a reasonable amount of TD's. I'd expect them to be very run heavy which really limits any upside.

 
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The Texans are working out Jeff Garcia, Kellen Clemens, Trent Edwards, Brodie Croyle and former Rice quarterback Chase Clement.

"I think it's probably important (to sign another quarterback)," said coach Gary Kubiak. "If you get in a situation where you lose another guy you better be grooming somebody. We got five guys we're going to work out today... it doesn't mean we'll sign one of those guys, but it's important we sign somebody.

Speaking of Schaub, he is scheduled to see a doctor in Charlotte Tuesday as the Texans hold at least a glimmer of hope that his season isn't over.

 
Schaub put on Injured Reserve, and the Texans have signed Kellen Clemens, who spent preseason with the Redskins who run the same offensive system, so will have some familiarity with it already.

 
Matt Schaub is on local radio. Not much useful info on the injury other than he was adamant the injury isn't career threatening after being told there had some been some rumors of it. Toed the company line not revealing anything about prognosis so far, his opinion of Leinart, etc.The most interesting thing was they were asking him about when the injury happened and if he'd watched the tape and such. Schaub said he had and you could see it happen on the tape and it was clear it was just an accident, not someone who saw his foot and thought they'd take out the QB. When pressed a little, Schaub admitted it was Albert Haynesworth.
It may not be career ending, but it's career debilitating. He'll never be the same. The dreaded lisfranc spares no one.
Is this really the case? I don't know. I'd like to hear other opinions. In order for us to compare apples to apples here we need to narrow down the focus to just QB's who have suffered a Lisfranc injury. At the very least that would be a limited sample size indeed. I don't know much about this injury but I think it's dangerous to look at RB/WR/TE who have dealt with this and make generalizations about a player that makes 95% of his living with his arm rather than his feet.
 

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