RUMOR: Seattle still "very interested" in Vincent Jackson (1 Viewer)

[MarcO]

Same source of the Lynch trade says they are working on a deal for Vincent Jackson. Must caution that this is by no means a done deal, - The word I got on the Lynch deal was that it was confirmed, but this is still very much a "trying to work a deal". Don't know if this means w/ the Chargers or on Jackson's contract.

Personally, I have a hard time thinking this is going to happen - but it could, as Seattle still has close to a full compliment of draft picks to deal with (minus a 3rd rounder) in 2011. Again, my opinion but it seems that maybe the Hawks see that the NFC West is theirs for the taking if they can get Hass some waepons - maybe they're going to go for it in 2010.

Normally wouldn't put this out there this soon, but if you're in the mood to gamble you may be able to either get him very cheaply right now or pick him of the wire if available.

 

[FGITLOTR]

As a VJax and Lynch owner, I'm happy to hear this news... Any chance they hand the team over to Whitehurst at some point this season, or do they wait until 2011?

 

[Dr. Awesome]

After your last heads up I'm certainly paying attention to any rumors you report.

 

[AcerFC]

After your last heads up I'm certainly paying attention to any rumors you report.

 

[gradin123]

I think Seattle makes the most sense. The only way he is traded this year IMO is if it is to Seattle. Unlike the Vikings the Seahawks need a longterm fix at wideout. For the Vikings the asking price was too high because he would have been a rental player for them because I think they want to keep Rice.

The Seahawks would likely try to get a longterm deal with him so the draft picks would become more justifiable if they do.

 

[Nightly Mistake]

I think if they plug Lynch in at RG, and Jackson in at LG, they could be really, really solid.

 

[gradin123]

I think if they plug Lynch in at RG, and Jackson in at LG, they could be really, really solid.

And QB!!!As a person who has watched every Seahawks game so far I can tell you Hasslebeck has been awful. Worse than his numbers suggest. He is a shell of his former self.

 

[Insein]

Same source of the Lynch trade says they are working on a deal for Vincent Jackson. Must caution that this is by no means a done deal, - The word I got on the Lynch deal was that it was confirmed, but this is still very much a "trying to work a deal". Don't know if this means w/ the Chargers or on Jackson's contract.

Personally, I have a hard time thinking this is going to happen - but it could, as Seattle still has close to a full compliment of draft picks to deal with (minus a 3rd rounder) in 2011. Again, my opinion but it seems that maybe the Hawks see that the NFC West is theirs for the taking if they can get Hass some waepons - maybe they're going to go for it in 2010.

Normally wouldn't put this out there this soon, but if you're in the mood to gamble you may be able to either get him very cheaply right now or pick him of the wire if available.

Keep us posted Marco. I'm debating whether to snag him off the WW while no one's looking.

 

[GoNads]

Same source of the Lynch trade says they are working on a deal for Vincent Jackson. Must caution that this is by no means a done deal, - The word I got on the Lynch deal was that it was confirmed, but this is still very much a "trying to work a deal". Don't know if this means w/ the Chargers or on Jackson's contract.

Personally, I have a hard time thinking this is going to happen - but it could, as Seattle still has close to a full compliment of draft picks to deal with (minus a 3rd rounder) in 2011. Again, my opinion but it seems that maybe the Hawks see that the NFC West is theirs for the taking if they can get Hass some waepons - maybe they're going to go for it in 2010.

Normally wouldn't put this out there this soon, but if you're in the mood to gamble you may be able to either get him very cheaply right now or pick him of the wire if available.

Keep us posted Marco. I'm debating whether to snag him off the WW while no one's looking.

I just did. It's a 2-week deal. If it doesn't happen within the next 2 Sundays, then he gets dropped. If you have the roster spot, and your byes allow; why not..?

 

[•TheRealMcCoy]

I think Seattle makes the most sense. The only way he is traded this year IMO is if it is to Seattle. Unlike the Vikings the Seahawks need a longterm fix at wideout. For the Vikings the asking price was too high because he would have been a rental player for them because I think they want to keep Rice.The Seahawks would likely try to get a longterm deal with him so the draft picks would become more justifiable if they do.

St. Louis makes a lot of sense to. Young QB in Bradford. Needs a stud WR to grow with. perfect fit. I can see the Hawks or STL getting him. We will see.

 

[fruity pebbles]

I think Seattle makes the most sense. The only way he is traded this year IMO is if it is to Seattle. Unlike the Vikings the Seahawks need a longterm fix at wideout. For the Vikings the asking price was too high because he would have been a rental player for them because I think they want to keep Rice.The Seahawks would likely try to get a longterm deal with him so the draft picks would become more justifiable if they do.

St. Louis makes a lot of sense to. Young QB in Bradford. Needs a stud WR to grow with. perfect fit. I can see the Hawks or STL getting him. We will see.

Washington as well

 

[nola]

The Patriots, with two picks in rounds 1, 2 and 3 certainly have the firepower to make a trade.

I have a hard time seeing Seattle trade away another draft pick after the Lynch deal.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The Patriots, with two picks in rounds 1, 2 and 3 certainly have the firepower to make a trade.I have a hard time seeing Seattle trade away another draft pick after the Lynch deal.

Exactly.NE has the picks, the cash and the need.I'm trying to get VJax low, now.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

The Patriots, with two picks in rounds 1, 2 and 3 certainly have the firepower to make a trade.I have a hard time seeing Seattle trade away another draft pick after the Lynch deal.

Pats wont pay Vjax. And AJ smith wont budge from his demands.STL almost had something in place, we will see if something does get done

 

[SCT]

The Patriots, with two picks in rounds 1, 2 and 3 certainly have the firepower to make a trade.I have a hard time seeing Seattle trade away another draft pick after the Lynch deal.

I said this in the "who will replace moss" thread and all I got was a

 

[fruity pebbles]

The Patriots, with two picks in rounds 1, 2 and 3 certainly have the firepower to make a trade.I have a hard time seeing Seattle trade away another draft pick after the Lynch deal.

Cant see the Chargers trading Vjax to the Pats no matter what theyd be willing to pay.

 

[Chaka]

After your last heads up I'm certainly paying attention to any rumors you report.

 

[MIMN]

Ouch do we want to get into the VJax waiting game again? I supposed if you have an available spot, why not?

 

[identikit]

After your last heads up I'm certainly paying attention to any rumors you report.

This.You were spot-on re: Lynch.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Just dropped Manningham for a gamble with VJax.

 

[SomeGuyNamedDavid]

The Patriots, with two picks in rounds 1, 2 and 3 certainly have the firepower to make a trade.I have a hard time seeing Seattle trade away another draft pick after the Lynch deal.

Cant see the Chargers trading Vjax to the Pats no matter what theyd be willing to pay.

Why not? After this season he walks and they have no control over where he goes anyway.

 

[fruity pebbles]

The Patriots, with two picks in rounds 1, 2 and 3 certainly have the firepower to make a trade.I have a hard time seeing Seattle trade away another draft pick after the Lynch deal.

Cant see the Chargers trading Vjax to the Pats no matter what theyd be willing to pay.

Why not? After this season he walks and they have no control over where he goes anyway.

Cause depending on what theyre asking for they can dictate where he goes now. Plus i cant see AJ risking facing the Pats in the playoffs and having VJ walk all over them.

 

[SomeGuyNamedDavid]

The Patriots, with two picks in rounds 1, 2 and 3 certainly have the firepower to make a trade.I have a hard time seeing Seattle trade away another draft pick after the Lynch deal.

Cant see the Chargers trading Vjax to the Pats no matter what theyd be willing to pay.

Why not? After this season he walks and they have no control over where he goes anyway.

Cause depending on what theyre asking for they can dictate where he goes now. Plus i cant see AJ risking facing the Pats in the playoffs and having VJ walk all over them.

But obviously so far nobody has been willing to give what they are asking. What if NE steps up and meets their demands?

 

[fruity pebbles]

The Patriots, with two picks in rounds 1, 2 and 3 certainly have the firepower to make a trade.I have a hard time seeing Seattle trade away another draft pick after the Lynch deal.

Cant see the Chargers trading Vjax to the Pats no matter what theyd be willing to pay.

Why not? After this season he walks and they have no control over where he goes anyway.

Cause depending on what theyre asking for they can dictate where he goes now. Plus i cant see AJ risking facing the Pats in the playoffs and having VJ walk all over them.

But obviously so far nobody has been willing to give what they are asking. What if NE steps up and meets their demands?

Still think they keep him. They were very specific about which teams could even talk to Vjax. None were in the AFC and cant see them letting an AFC direct competitor use him to potentially beat them.

 

[Insein]

Same source of the Lynch trade says they are working on a deal for Vincent Jackson. Must caution that this is by no means a done deal, - The word I got on the Lynch deal was that it was confirmed, but this is still very much a "trying to work a deal". Don't know if this means w/ the Chargers or on Jackson's contract.

Personally, I have a hard time thinking this is going to happen - but it could, as Seattle still has close to a full compliment of draft picks to deal with (minus a 3rd rounder) in 2011. Again, my opinion but it seems that maybe the Hawks see that the NFC West is theirs for the taking if they can get Hass some waepons - maybe they're going to go for it in 2010.

Normally wouldn't put this out there this soon, but if you're in the mood to gamble you may be able to either get him very cheaply right now or pick him of the wire if available.

Keep us posted Marco. I'm debating whether to snag him off the WW while no one's looking.

I just did. It's a 2-week deal. If it doesn't happen within the next 2 Sundays, then he gets dropped. If you have the roster spot, and your byes allow; why not..?

Good point. Dropped Slaton (handcuff) to get him.

 

[Insein]

Ouch do we want to get into the VJax waiting game again? I supposed if you have an available spot, why not?

Like someone else said, we're only waiting 2 weeks. Then we will know.

 

[DepthCharts]

Same source of the Lynch trade says they are working on a deal for Vincent Jackson. Must caution that this is by no means a done deal, - The word I got on the Lynch deal was that it was confirmed, but this is still very much a "trying to work a deal". Don't know if this means w/ the Chargers or on Jackson's contract.

Personally, I have a hard time thinking this is going to happen - but it could, as Seattle still has close to a full compliment of draft picks to deal with (minus a 3rd rounder) in 2011. Again, my opinion but it seems that maybe the Hawks see that the NFC West is theirs for the taking if they can get Hass some waepons - maybe they're going to go for it in 2010.

Normally wouldn't put this out there this soon, but if you're in the mood to gamble you may be able to either get him very cheaply right now or pick him of the wire if available.

You guys should try playing in a money league with this guy ^&**%$#%^^&**^%$%$###@ , LMAO, its' no wonder hes so solid every year!! p.s. Marc, I'll give ya Alex Smith for Eddie Royal. I will also throw in a dollar for next year.

Rumor has it I need a WR still.

 

[kylechoffman]

NE pats 2011 draft Picks

1st Round

1st Round (OAK – Richard Seymour)

2nd Round (CAR – 2010 3rd Round)

2nd Round

3rd Round (MIN – Randy Moss)

3rd Round

4th Round

4th Round (DEN – Laurence Maroney)

5th Round

6th Round (NO – David Thomas)

If bolts are demanding a first for Vjax, the pats could move their 2011 first and keep oaklands, move the two seconds they have and keep both firsts. or some other combination.

 

[kylechoffman]

2011 Seahawks picks

1st Round

2nd Round

5th Round

7th Round

They will receive a fourth- or fifth-round choice from Baltimore for Josh Wilson. They will receive a sixth-round choice from Detroit for Lawrence Jackson and a sixth- or seventh-round choice from Cleveland for Seneca Wallace.

The Seahawks sent their third-round choice to San Diego in the Charlie Whitehurst deal. Their fourth-rounder went to Buffalo for Marshawn Lynch. Their sixth-rounder went to San Francisco for Kentwan Balmer.

 

[FGITLOTR]

As a VJax dynasty owner, I would love nothing more than to see him wind up sitting out the entire season and signing with NE in the off season (don't know how the CBA factors in)

 

[az_prof]

The Patriots, with two picks in rounds 1, 2 and 3 certainly have the firepower to make a trade.I have a hard time seeing Seattle trade away another draft pick after the Lynch deal.

I said this in the "who will replace moss" thread and all I got was a

I have a hard time seeing Seattle really doing what it takes to make a deal either. First, how many millions did they throw away on Housh? Then they drafted a young WR. Bottom line is that for any team to make a deal, SD is going to have lower their asking price. Will they? I doubt it.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

The Seahawks are already without a third (Whitehurst) and a fourth (Lynch) next year. I guess they could trade a second next year and a third in 2012. But as a team trying to rebuild, they really shouldn't be taking themselves out of drafts.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

The Seahawks are already without a third (Whitehurst) and a fourth (Lynch) next year. I guess they could trade a second next year and a third in 2012. But as a team trying to rebuild, they really shouldn't be taking themselves out of drafts.

Why not? Whitehurst doesn't look like a great deal (though that could change). If any team got a Marshawn Lynch in the 4th they'd be doing cartwheels. If they can make the $$ work, a second round pick for a VJax's caliber isn't a bad deal. You normally have to spend a first round pick on a guy like that and he's no sure thing (plus often takes a year or so to 'get it'.)Seems to me they'd be getting first round talents for later round picks. And they'd still have them for the next several years. I don't see anything dumb with that.

 

[footballnerd]

Trade market for Vincent Jackson shrinks

October, 6, 2010

By Bill Williamson

Vincent Jackson's most ardent pursuer is no longer looking for a receiver.

Minnesota just brought back Randy Moss in a trade with New England for a third-round pick. Last month, Minnesota had a deal in place for Jackson, but the Vikings couldn't agree on compensation terms with the Chargers in a deal for the holdout Pro Bowl receiver. The Vikings offered a second-round pick and a conditional pick. The Chargers wanted a second and third-round pick for Jackson.

San Diego can resume trade talks for Jackson on Oct.18 and Oct.19. The 19th is the trade deadline. If Jackson is not traded by the deadline, he is expected to hold out for the entire year. Jackson’s days as a Chargers are all but over. If he doesn’t get traded and he leaves as a free agent, the Chargers will likely get a third-round compensatory pick in 2012.

The Chargers will likely be willing to deal Jackson on Oct. 18 or 19, but it will be interesting to see what the market will be now that the Vikings are all but out of the mix. On the day the Minnesota deal died, ESPN’s John Clayton wrote that Seattle, St. Louis, Detroit and Washington all showed interest. It’s unknown if any of those teams will show interest in two weeks.

The natural question now is if New England will make a run at Jackson now that they have a hole at receiver? New England has the draft picks to get a deal done, but I highly, I mean highly, doubt San Diego would trade Jackson to an AFC contender. All of the other teams talking to the Chargers about Jackson were NFC teams and that was by the Chargers’ design.

The Chargers’ game after the trade deadline is against the Patriots. I just don’t see the Chargers putting themselves in that situation.

The odds are that Jackson won’t be traded just because of logistics. Minnesota’s move for Moss further lessens the chance of a deal.

In the meantime, the Chargers’ offense is moving on with Jackson. While Jackson is a fine player, the Chargers don't seem to miss him much. They are the No. 1 ranked defense in the NFL and quarterback Philip Rivers threw for a franchise record 455 yards in Week 3.

Here’s further evidence the Chargers don’t miss Jackson: According to ESPN Stats & Information, Rivers has the highest passer rating in the NFL on balls thrown 21 yards or longer. Rivers has completed 8 of 12 passes of 21 yards of more for 305 yards and four touchdowns. His passer rating is 149.3.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/18270/vincent-jackson-market-shrinksLink

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/18270/vincent-jackson-market-shrinks

 

[CrossEyed]

So no trade involving Jackson can happen until the 18th?

 

[footballnerd]

So no trade involving Jackson can happen until the 18th?

looks like it. he's sitting on my waivers right now so wonder if that buys some time before I should pick him up.

 

[lodnerpantz]

So no trade involving Jackson can happen until the 18th?

It could, but there's no point in pulling the trigger since he can't play until Week 7.

 

[CrossEyed]

So no trade involving Jackson can happen until the 18th?

looks like it. he's sitting on my waivers right now so wonder if that buys some time before I should pick him up.

That's good to know. I think it's safe to leave him there until next week and keep monitoring this thread. If MarcO gets some additional info that makes it look like this may happen I'll probably snag him next week. Our waivers run Wednesday morning, so by the 20th it will be too late.

 

[CrossEyed]

So no trade involving Jackson can happen until the 18th?

It could, but there's no point in pulling the trigger since he can't play until Week 7.

The article states:

San Diego can resume trade talks for Jackson on Oct.18 and Oct.19.

 

[baconisgood]

NE pats 2011 draft Picks1st Round1st Round (OAK – Richard Seymour)2nd Round (CAR – 2010 3rd Round)2nd Round3rd Round (MIN – Randy Moss)3rd Round4th Round4th Round (DEN – Laurence Maroney)5th Round6th Round (NO – David Thomas)If bolts are demanding a first for Vjax, the pats could move their 2011 first and keep oaklands, move the two seconds they have and keep both firsts. or some other combination.

You guys haven't been paying attention to the Pats the past few years?They trade players for picks, and picks for more, later picks. They might trade for undervalued guys like Welker, or Moss when they cost them pennies on the dollar- but they don't make blockbuster signings or trades frequently. Their entire strategy is to keep a steady flow of cheap young players coming in and falling into a few diamonds on the way. Why did Maroney stay on their team for so long despite their disappointment? Because he was cheap and cost controlled for a while.

 

[Insein]

NE pats 2011 draft Picks1st Round1st Round (OAK – Richard Seymour)2nd Round (CAR – 2010 3rd Round)2nd Round3rd Round (MIN – Randy Moss)3rd Round4th Round4th Round (DEN – Laurence Maroney)5th Round6th Round (NO – David Thomas)If bolts are demanding a first for Vjax, the pats could move their 2011 first and keep oaklands, move the two seconds they have and keep both firsts. or some other combination.

You guys haven't been paying attention to the Pats the past few years?They trade players for picks, and picks for more, later picks. They might trade for undervalued guys like Welker, or Moss when they cost them pennies on the dollar- but they don't make blockbuster signings or trades frequently. Their entire strategy is to keep a steady flow of cheap young players coming in and falling into a few diamonds on the way. Why did Maroney stay on their team for so long despite their disappointment? Because he was cheap and cost controlled for a while.

Good analysis. Everyone is a cog on that team. Including Brady. He's a more important cog but when the time comes, he'll be moved for what they can get when his value is perceived to be to little for the money.

 

[Nightly Mistake]

The Patriots, with two picks in rounds 1, 2 and 3 certainly have the firepower to make a trade.I have a hard time seeing Seattle trade away another draft pick after the Lynch deal.

I see this as a relatively unlikely scenario. The Pats and the Chargers view each other as primary playoff rivals, along with Indy and Pittsburgh. I have a tough time imagining those teams wanting to help each other out via trade unless that was their last, best and only option. Note that NE traded Moss to the NFC, for example. Seattle has got to be a more attractive option than NE for that reason.

 

[kylechoffman]

The Patriots, with two picks in rounds 1, 2 and 3 certainly have the firepower to make a trade.I have a hard time seeing Seattle trade away another draft pick after the Lynch deal.

I see this as a relatively unlikely scenario. The Pats and the Chargers view each other as primary playoff rivals, along with Indy and Pittsburgh. I have a tough time imagining those teams wanting to help each other out via trade unless that was their last, best and only option. Note that NE traded Moss to the NFC, for example. Seattle has got to be a more attractive option than NE for that reason.

Never say never....Philly sent Mcnabb to skins so anything can happen. One could argue that wasnt as big of a trade because of the skins record over the past few years but trading a QB who still has a lot of skill left (lets face it this isnt delhomme we are talking about or noodle arm pennington) to a division rival is about as even as the bolts sending a weapon to a conference rival. Mcnabb makes the skins much better, they are 2-0 in the division with a critical road win against the eagles and tied for first in the division.

 

[That Little Voice]

Actually forgot someone dropped him last week.

 

[gorf]

So no trade involving Jackson can happen until the 18th?

It could, but there's no point in pulling the trigger since he can't play until Week 7.

The article states:

San Diego can resume trade talks for Jackson on Oct.18 and Oct.19.

yes, but why? are they actually prohibited from discussing trades until then? why would that be?

 

[Nightly Mistake]

The Patriots, with two picks in rounds 1, 2 and 3 certainly have the firepower to make a trade.I have a hard time seeing Seattle trade away another draft pick after the Lynch deal.

I see this as a relatively unlikely scenario. The Pats and the Chargers view each other as primary playoff rivals, along with Indy and Pittsburgh. I have a tough time imagining those teams wanting to help each other out via trade unless that was their last, best and only option. Note that NE traded Moss to the NFC, for example. Seattle has got to be a more attractive option than NE for that reason.

Never say never....Philly sent Mcnabb to skins so anything can happen. One could argue that wasnt as big of a trade because of the skins record over the past few years but trading a QB who still has a lot of skill left (lets face it this isnt delhomme we are talking about or noodle arm pennington) to a division rival is about as even as the bolts sending a weapon to a conference rival. Mcnabb makes the skins much better, they are 2-0 in the division with a critical road win against the eagles and tied for first in the division.

I didn't say "never", just said "unlikely". The Eagles traded McNabb to the 'Skins reportedly because they had no other offers and I suspect, as you said, they didn't regard the 'Skins as major rivals despite being in the same division; McNabb's also entering the last year of his contract. That trade was roundly criticized by many and indeed it may serve as a cautionary tale in this situation.

 

[MarcO]

So no trade involving Jackson can happen until the 18th?

looks like it. he's sitting on my waivers right now so wonder if that buys some time before I should pick him up.

I don't think this is true, he can be traded right now if he signs his tender and reports to his team (new or old). From that point forward (when he reports) he has to sit out 3 games.

 

[footballnerd]

ESPN Article 9/23/10

The NFL and the NFL Players Association had agreed to a 4 p.m. ET deadline for San Diego to trade Jackson, which would have allowed him to be active by the fifth week of the regular season. Jackson is under a three-game suspension for past DUI offenses. When he did not sign his restricted free-agent tender, the Chargers placed Jackson on an exempt list, which prohibited him from playing for three more weeks.

By letting Wednesday's deadline pass, the Chargers will keep Jackson on the exempt list for the first six weeks of the season. San Diego still can trade him by the Oct. 19 trade deadline.

Link

Jackson, a restricted free agent who's holding out from the Chargers, had to sign a new contract by 4 p.m. ET Wednesday in order to play for a new team in Week 5. Now he'll have to finish the remainder of his three-game DUI suspension and serve a three-game suspension on the roster exempt list if he does sign.

LinkSounds like he's on the exempt list until after the 10/17 (Week 6) games. which makes him available for trade 10/18 to 10/19

 

[wudaben]

I know earlier on I had read that his 3 game exempt list suspension would not even begin until he actually signed his contract so I don't believe that extra 3 weeks correlates to the 10/18 date. I'll have to dig that article out of the vjax thread from a couple weeks ago.

 

[footballnerd]

I know earlier on I had read that his 3 game exempt list suspension would not even begin until he actually signed his contract so I don't believe that extra 3 weeks correlates to the 10/18 date. I'll have to dig that article out of the vjax thread from a couple weeks ago.

sweet!