Rumors from the Combine (2 Viewers)

[-X-]

I don't see the Bears making a play for Turner unless they somehow get rid of Benson... Maybe they can con the Texans into taking him, since Benson seems to be a homeboy.

 

[EBF]

By my count there are at least 4 teams that need a starting RB in the worst way:

ARI

ATL

CHI

HOU

SEA

I don't think all of these teams will fill that need in the draft. Someone will want Turner to be their starter IMO. That's to mention teams like CIN, TEN, NYJ, OAK, and TB. I think he'd contend for the opening day job on all of those teams as well.

 

[ImTheScientist]

By my count there are at least 4 teams that need a starting RB in the worst way:ARIATLCHIHOUSEAI don't think all of these teams will fill that need in the draft. Someone will want Turner to be their starter IMO. That's to mention teams like CIN, TEN, NYJ, OAK, and TB. I think he'd contend for the opening day job on all of those teams as well.

Why would you pay what it is going to cost to get turner when there is a deep draft class? I wouldn't.

 

[MAC_32]

Wow...could KC be going QB??? They have seemed so set on Long. Most scouts I have heard think QBs could fall down the board but here we now have ATL toying with Ryan and KC in love with Brohm. Anyone think they both last to top of Rd. 2?

My opinion, Ryan's a borderline top 10 player and I have Henne ranked above Brohm. ATL drafting Ryan would be a mistake, KC drafting Brohm would be monumental. And, no, neither will last until round 2.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

By my count there are at least 4 teams that need a starting RB in the worst way:ARIATLCHIHOUSEAI don't think all of these teams will fill that need in the draft. Someone will want Turner to be their starter IMO. That's to mention teams like CIN, TEN, NYJ, OAK, and TB. I think he'd contend for the opening day job on all of those teams as well.

Is Arizona really needing a RB in the worst way? Edge is not a gamebreaker but he's still starting material I thought.

 

[higgins]

 

[EBF]

By my count there are at least 4 teams that need a starting RB in the worst way:ARIATLCHIHOUSEAI don't think all of these teams will fill that need in the draft. Someone will want Turner to be their starter IMO. That's to mention teams like CIN, TEN, NYJ, OAK, and TB. I think he'd contend for the opening day job on all of those teams as well.

Why would you pay what it is going to cost to get turner when there is a deep draft class? I wouldn't.

Why? Because Michael Turner is probably better than all of the RBs in the draft outside the first round guys. Even first round RB prospects only have something like a 60-70% success rate. The rate is about half that for 2nd and 3rd round guys. If you actually care about winning games and you don't want to use your first round pick on Jones, Mendenhall, or Stewart, it makes a lot of sense to fork over some cash and get Turner instead of playing the draft lottery.

 

[EBF]

By my count there are at least 4 teams that need a starting RB in the worst way:ARIATLCHIHOUSEAI don't think all of these teams will fill that need in the draft. Someone will want Turner to be their starter IMO. That's to mention teams like CIN, TEN, NYJ, OAK, and TB. I think he'd contend for the opening day job on all of those teams as well.

Is Arizona really needing a RB in the worst way? Edge is not a gamebreaker but he's still starting material I thought.

Maybe I'm anticipating a bit here. But Edge is near the end of his career and there's nothing behind him. They will need to add a live body in the very near future.

 

[Tenacious D]

Maybe I'm anticipating a bit here. But Edge is near the end of his career and there's nothing behind him. They will need to add a live body in the very near future.

I agree, unless you have an abnormal amount of faith in JJ Arrington. This deep RB class is the perfect situation for them. There will be starter potential in the second and third rounds, they seem a lock to add one by the fourth round.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

By my count there are at least 4 teams that need a starting RB in the worst way:ARIATLCHIHOUSEAI don't think all of these teams will fill that need in the draft. Someone will want Turner to be their starter IMO. That's to mention teams like CIN, TEN, NYJ, OAK, and TB. I think he'd contend for the opening day job on all of those teams as well.

Why would you pay what it is going to cost to get turner when there is a deep draft class? I wouldn't.

Why? Because Michael Turner is probably better than all of the RBs in the draft outside the first round guys. Even first round RB prospects only have something like a 60-70% success rate. The rate is about half that for 2nd and 3rd round guys. If you actually care about winning games and you don't want to use your first round pick on Jones, Mendenhall, or Stewart, it makes a lot of sense to fork over some cash and get Turner instead of playing the draft lottery.

If a team that needed a RB only to get over the hump I might agree. Someone like Seattle, for example. But teams like Arizona, Houston, and Atlanta need so many parts that it would make no sense to lock up money and cap room into a RB when there are good, cheap options available in the middle of the draft.

 

[EBF]

By my count there are at least 4 teams that need a starting RB in the worst way:ARIATLCHIHOUSEAI don't think all of these teams will fill that need in the draft. Someone will want Turner to be their starter IMO. That's to mention teams like CIN, TEN, NYJ, OAK, and TB. I think he'd contend for the opening day job on all of those teams as well.

Why would you pay what it is going to cost to get turner when there is a deep draft class? I wouldn't.

Why? Because Michael Turner is probably better than all of the RBs in the draft outside the first round guys. Even first round RB prospects only have something like a 60-70% success rate. The rate is about half that for 2nd and 3rd round guys. If you actually care about winning games and you don't want to use your first round pick on Jones, Mendenhall, or Stewart, it makes a lot of sense to fork over some cash and get Turner instead of playing the draft lottery.

If a team that needed a RB only to get over the hump I might agree. Someone like Seattle, for example. But teams like Arizona, Houston, and Atlanta need so many parts that it would make no sense to lock up money and cap room into a RB when there are good, cheap options available in the middle of the draft.

Disagree. Arizona and Houston could be in the playoffs next year. Coaches have their jobs on the line. They don't have the luxury of thinking long-term. Turner is one of the top 5 RBs available this offseason (including draft and free agency). Someone is going to sign him.

 

[az_prof]

The Turner to PIT rumor isn't necessarily of huge significance, but it does reinforce my opinion that Parker is an overrated talent. I think he's a bigger risk to be replaced than his top 10 dynasty status would indicate. I've just never been that impressed with him. I think he's an average back in a great situation.I'll be watching Turner closely. Chicago and Arizona make a lot of sense for him. I still say he ends up on one of those teams when all is said and done. Remember, teams might try to lowball his agent and downplay their interest so they can get him cheap. For all the depth in this draft, Mendenhall and Stewart are the only 220+ pound bell cow runners. Teams who miss out on those guys probably won't be thrilled about the prospect of entering the season with Justin Forsett as their top runner. I think there will be a market for Turner. The other significant news here for me is about Chad Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald. It would have major FF implications if either of those guys were to be traded.

Given that his FA value appears lower than expected I wonder if this isn't a good time to trade for Turner in dynasty? Obviously he would not be worth a 1.1. or 1.2 rookie pick (or 1.3 IMO), but I wonder if getting him for a 1.4-1.6 pick is possible and if so, would be a good play?

 

[az_prof]

By my count there are at least 4 teams that need a starting RB in the worst way:

ARI

ATL

CHI

HOU

SEA

I don't think all of these teams will fill that need in the draft. Someone will want Turner to be their starter IMO. That's to mention teams like CIN, TEN, NYJ, OAK, and TB. I think he'd contend for the opening day job on all of those teams as well.

Why would you pay what it is going to cost to get turner when there is a deep draft class? I wouldn't.

Why? Because Michael Turner is probably better than all of the RBs in the draft outside the first round guys. Even first round RB prospects only have something like a 60-70% success rate. The rate is about half that for 2nd and 3rd round guys. If you actually care about winning games and you don't want to use your first round pick on Jones, Mendenhall, or Stewart, it makes a lot of sense to fork over some cash and get Turner instead of playing the draft lottery.

If a team that needed a RB only to get over the hump I might agree. Someone like Seattle, for example. But teams like Arizona, Houston, and Atlanta need so many parts that it would make no sense to lock up money and cap room into a RB when there are good, cheap options available in the middle of the draft.

Disagree. Arizona and Houston could be in the playoffs next year. Coaches have their jobs on the line. They don't have the luxury of thinking long-term. Turner is one of the top 5 RBs available this offseason (including draft and free agency). Someone is going to sign him.

This is a great argument for why you need a GM and not a GM/HC. A GM has more time to win and so he can think longterm, which is what a team must do in assembling a roster.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

By my count there are at least 4 teams that need a starting RB in the worst way:

ARI

ATL

CHI

HOU

SEA

I don't think all of these teams will fill that need in the draft. Someone will want Turner to be their starter IMO. That's to mention teams like CIN, TEN, NYJ, OAK, and TB. I think he'd contend for the opening day job on all of those teams as well.

Why would you pay what it is going to cost to get turner when there is a deep draft class? I wouldn't.

Why? Because Michael Turner is probably better than all of the RBs in the draft outside the first round guys. Even first round RB prospects only have something like a 60-70% success rate. The rate is about half that for 2nd and 3rd round guys. If you actually care about winning games and you don't want to use your first round pick on Jones, Mendenhall, or Stewart, it makes a lot of sense to fork over some cash and get Turner instead of playing the draft lottery.

If a team that needed a RB only to get over the hump I might agree. Someone like Seattle, for example. But teams like Arizona, Houston, and Atlanta need so many parts that it would make no sense to lock up money and cap room into a RB when there are good, cheap options available in the middle of the draft.

Disagree. Arizona and Houston could be in the playoffs next year. Coaches have their jobs on the line. They don't have the luxury of thinking long-term. Turner is one of the top 5 RBs available this offseason (including draft and free agency). Someone is going to sign him.

This is a great argument for why you need a GM and not a GM/HC. A GM has more time to win and so he can think longterm, which is what a team must do in assembling a roster.

I gotta agree with EBF here. There's gonna be a market for Turner. He's a good player and one of the best RBs available this year. Just not that many guys that can tote the rock 20+ times a game. Turners built for it.

 

[FUBAR]

*Tennessee is hot for free agent wide reciever Bernard Berrian and recent cap cut tight Alge Crumpler....Tennessee is not really that hot for running back Tatum Bell, contrary to media reports. They are, however, talking to Julius Jones' folks...

If so, who are they giving up on? White? Henry already? Both?

They should give up on their RB scouts.

They already fired Chow.Julius seems much more in the mold of White than Henry, JJ/CH would make a decent RBBC. If they wanted Bell more, I'd think Henry was the odd man out.

 

[QuizGuy66]

I keep hearing that Mike Brown is willing to do something with Chad Johnson if Chad is willing to give back some bonus money pre trade

Amazed to see only one comment on Chad from the peanut gallery - figured there'd be 20 threads based on the one-liner alone. Anyhow it answers I question that I had when I started another thread, which was if the Bengals would get cap relief if Chad paid back some of the signing bonus money. Obviously the answer is 'yes'. This is realistic, but it's also probable that Chad won't be willing to do that and thus will go nowhere (not that I really wanna see him go anyhow)..-QG

 

[EBF]

The Turner to PIT rumor isn't necessarily of huge significance, but it does reinforce my opinion that Parker is an overrated talent. I think he's a bigger risk to be replaced than his top 10 dynasty status would indicate. I've just never been that impressed with him. I think he's an average back in a great situation.I'll be watching Turner closely. Chicago and Arizona make a lot of sense for him. I still say he ends up on one of those teams when all is said and done. Remember, teams might try to lowball his agent and downplay their interest so they can get him cheap. For all the depth in this draft, Mendenhall and Stewart are the only 220+ pound bell cow runners. Teams who miss out on those guys probably won't be thrilled about the prospect of entering the season with Justin Forsett as their top runner. I think there will be a market for Turner. The other significant news here for me is about Chad Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald. It would have major FF implications if either of those guys were to be traded.

Given that his FA value appears lower than expected I wonder if this isn't a good time to trade for Turner in dynasty? Obviously he would not be worth a 1.1. or 1.2 rookie pick (or 1.3 IMO), but I wonder if getting him for a 1.4-1.6 pick is possible and if so, would be a good play?

Depends on your league. He is as valuable as the 1.05, IMO. Probably better. He is not a stud, but he's not Troy Hambrick either. I think he can be another Rudi Johnson for the team that signs him.

 

[ImTheScientist]

By my count there are at least 4 teams that need a starting RB in the worst way:ARIATLCHIHOUSEAI don't think all of these teams will fill that need in the draft. Someone will want Turner to be their starter IMO. That's to mention teams like CIN, TEN, NYJ, OAK, and TB. I think he'd contend for the opening day job on all of those teams as well.

Why would you pay what it is going to cost to get turner when there is a deep draft class? I wouldn't.

Why? Because Michael Turner is probably better than all of the RBs in the draft outside the first round guys. Even first round RB prospects only have something like a 60-70% success rate. The rate is about half that for 2nd and 3rd round guys. If you actually care about winning games and you don't want to use your first round pick on Jones, Mendenhall, or Stewart, it makes a lot of sense to fork over some cash and get Turner instead of playing the draft lottery.

Turner has better than a 60-70% success rate?

 

[EBF]

By my count there are at least 4 teams that need a starting RB in the worst way:ARIATLCHIHOUSEAI don't think all of these teams will fill that need in the draft. Someone will want Turner to be their starter IMO. That's to mention teams like CIN, TEN, NYJ, OAK, and TB. I think he'd contend for the opening day job on all of those teams as well.

Why would you pay what it is going to cost to get turner when there is a deep draft class? I wouldn't.

Why? Because Michael Turner is probably better than all of the RBs in the draft outside the first round guys. Even first round RB prospects only have something like a 60-70% success rate. The rate is about half that for 2nd and 3rd round guys. If you actually care about winning games and you don't want to use your first round pick on Jones, Mendenhall, or Stewart, it makes a lot of sense to fork over some cash and get Turner instead of playing the draft lottery.

Turner has better than a 60-70% success rate?

I think so. He's logged a lot of NFL carries. If he sucked, I think we'd know it by now.

 

[Rorschach]

By my count there are at least 4 teams that need a starting RB in the worst way:ARIATLCHIHOUSEAI don't think all of these teams will fill that need in the draft. Someone will want Turner to be their starter IMO. That's to mention teams like CIN, TEN, NYJ, OAK, and TB. I think he'd contend for the opening day job on all of those teams as well.

Why would you pay what it is going to cost to get turner when there is a deep draft class? I wouldn't.

Why? Because Michael Turner is probably better than all of the RBs in the draft outside the first round guys. Even first round RB prospects only have something like a 60-70% success rate. The rate is about half that for 2nd and 3rd round guys. If you actually care about winning games and you don't want to use your first round pick on Jones, Mendenhall, or Stewart, it makes a lot of sense to fork over some cash and get Turner instead of playing the draft lottery.

Turner has better than a 60-70% success rate?

I think so. He's logged a lot of NFL carries. If he sucked, I think we'd know it by now.

Lamont Jordan down? How bout Amos Zereoue? I like Turner a lot but saying he is a stud because he has been good in limited situations is not smart.

 

[EBF]

By my count there are at least 4 teams that need a starting RB in the worst way:ARIATLCHIHOUSEAI don't think all of these teams will fill that need in the draft. Someone will want Turner to be their starter IMO. That's to mention teams like CIN, TEN, NYJ, OAK, and TB. I think he'd contend for the opening day job on all of those teams as well.

Why would you pay what it is going to cost to get turner when there is a deep draft class? I wouldn't.

Why? Because Michael Turner is probably better than all of the RBs in the draft outside the first round guys. Even first round RB prospects only have something like a 60-70% success rate. The rate is about half that for 2nd and 3rd round guys. If you actually care about winning games and you don't want to use your first round pick on Jones, Mendenhall, or Stewart, it makes a lot of sense to fork over some cash and get Turner instead of playing the draft lottery.

Turner has better than a 60-70% success rate?

I think so. He's logged a lot of NFL carries. If he sucked, I think we'd know it by now.

Lamont Jordan down? How bout Amos Zereoue? I like Turner a lot but saying he is a stud because he has been good in limited situations is not smart.

Did I say he's a stud? I must've missed that. I think he's a solid back. He's excelled whenever given the opportunity. He was a star in college and he has the physical makeup of a workhorse RB. Virtually every source lists him as the top free agent RB on the market. If you choose to believe he isn't a starting caliber RB, that's fine by me. But there are plenty of reasons for optimism re: Turner.

 

[Rorschach]

By my count there are at least 4 teams that need a starting RB in the worst way:ARIATLCHIHOUSEAI don't think all of these teams will fill that need in the draft. Someone will want Turner to be their starter IMO. That's to mention teams like CIN, TEN, NYJ, OAK, and TB. I think he'd contend for the opening day job on all of those teams as well.

Why would you pay what it is going to cost to get turner when there is a deep draft class? I wouldn't.

Why? Because Michael Turner is probably better than all of the RBs in the draft outside the first round guys. Even first round RB prospects only have something like a 60-70% success rate. The rate is about half that for 2nd and 3rd round guys. If you actually care about winning games and you don't want to use your first round pick on Jones, Mendenhall, or Stewart, it makes a lot of sense to fork over some cash and get Turner instead of playing the draft lottery.

Turner has better than a 60-70% success rate?

I think so. He's logged a lot of NFL carries. If he sucked, I think we'd know it by now.

Lamont Jordan down? How bout Amos Zereoue? I like Turner a lot but saying he is a stud because he has been good in limited situations is not smart.

Did I say he's a stud? I must've missed that. I think he's a solid back. He's excelled whenever given the opportunity. He was a star in college and he has the physical makeup of a workhorse RB. Virtually every source lists him as the top free agent RB on the market. If you choose to believe he isn't a starting caliber RB, that's fine by me. But there are plenty of reasons for optimism re: Turner.

He was a stud at NIU... the fairest comparison may be a bigger, faster Chester Taylor with less recieving ability.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

I think he'd be great in Arizona, but they are so cap strapped right now, I just don't see it happening.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

By my count there are at least 4 teams that need a starting RB in the worst way:ARIATLCHIHOUSEAI don't think all of these teams will fill that need in the draft. Someone will want Turner to be their starter IMO. That's to mention teams like CIN, TEN, NYJ, OAK, and TB. I think he'd contend for the opening day job on all of those teams as well.

Why would you pay what it is going to cost to get turner when there is a deep draft class? I wouldn't.

Why? Because Michael Turner is probably better than all of the RBs in the draft outside the first round guys. Even first round RB prospects only have something like a 60-70% success rate. The rate is about half that for 2nd and 3rd round guys. If you actually care about winning games and you don't want to use your first round pick on Jones, Mendenhall, or Stewart, it makes a lot of sense to fork over some cash and get Turner instead of playing the draft lottery.

If a team that needed a RB only to get over the hump I might agree. Someone like Seattle, for example. But teams like Arizona, Houston, and Atlanta need so many parts that it would make no sense to lock up money and cap room into a RB when there are good, cheap options available in the middle of the draft.

Disagree. Arizona and Houston could be in the playoffs next year. Coaches have their jobs on the line. They don't have the luxury of thinking long-term. Turner is one of the top 5 RBs available this offseason (including draft and free agency). Someone is going to sign him.

First, I didn't say no one would sign him. Of course someone will sign him. I'm saying he's going to have a hard time getting the money he wants because of all the cheap competition in the draft. Arizona is already cash strapped. To sign Turner they'll have to end up cutting someone. They're barely under the cap now if they even have gotten under it.Houston has much more pressing needs. CB is a huge need with Robinson hurt. Safety is still a big need. They don't have a pass rusher opposite Mario. The OL still needs work. They need to fix these holes before getting a franchise back at $20M guaranteed dollars in there. I'll guess we'll find out who signs Turner and if they give him the money he wants.

 

[simmonjm]

*Oregon quarterback Dennis Dixon and Wisconsin cornerback Jack Ikegwuonu both suffered devastating knee injuries, with the later injuring his MCL and ACL while training in Florida. Ikegwuonu's long speed was a big concern pre-injury, so if he makes it in this league it will be as a strong safety, even though he has no experience there....all signs point to Dixon making a clean and full recovery.

Correct me if im wrong but I thought Jack Ikegwuonu main strength was his speed.

 

[Rodeojones]

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[Coogar]

Rumor has it that Adam Schefter caught a touchdown at the combine today. I'm sure the Pats have it on tape if anyone is interested?

 

[Cookiemonster]

1. IF Quentin Groves is healthy, he is capable of a 4.4 and will be a top 20 pick. I'm not sold myself, as he never looked effective after the multiple-toe-dislocation.

2. Oakland makes too much sense for M.Turner. They already believe in taking that kind of player. Not only Jordan, but nearly all of their recent Super Bowl team. This draft is deep on both lines, and that's where they would like to spend their picks. J.Fargas is the best back on the team (sorry M.Bush supporters, but he'll likely be out of football in 3 more years).

 

[jgb95]

Rumor has it that Adam Schefter caught a touchdown at the combine today. I'm sure the Pats have it on tape if anyone is interested?

give it a fricken rest dudegrow up and move onget some new material it's already old

 

[ImTheScientist]

Rumor has it that Adam Schefter caught a touchdown at the combine today. I'm sure the Pats have it on tape if anyone is interested?

give it a fricken rest dudegrow up and move onget some new material it's already old

I thought it was funny

 

[massraider]

By my count there are at least 4 teams that need a starting RB in the worst way:ARIATLCHIHOUSEAI don't think all of these teams will fill that need in the draft. Someone will want Turner to be their starter IMO. That's to mention teams like CIN, TEN, NYJ, OAK, and TB. I think he'd contend for the opening day job on all of those teams as well.

Why would you pay what it is going to cost to get turner when there is a deep draft class? I wouldn't.

I read this a lot, and I wonder, do people say this every year, about a free agent at a position that is also deep in the draft?And are they wrong every year? I have never heard an agent say, "Well, gee, this years deep draft class really screwed us, everyone said they'd wait till April." There's $600 million in cap space this spring. Turner is gonna get his.

 

[jeter23]

*Athletic Penn State linebacker Dan Connor has so far been the hit of interviews. Several teams have said it was the best interview they have seen a linebacker have in the last few years. His film diagnosis and knowledge of the game are precisely why he is a tackling machine. Many have added him to their lists' of must interviews after hearing stellar reports from his first three interviews. The N.E. Patriots and Tampa Bay added him to their lists after the rumors ran in the convention center.

*Michigan offensive tackle Jake Long's interviews have been as impressive as his workouts so far. Look for him to get folks in slots 1 to 4 thinking a bit more

*Most think the New York Giants victory will lead to a mad rush on defensive lineman early in the draft, but we hear the St. Louis Rams are very pleasantly surprised with what they have seen and what they've heard from Jake Long. The Kansas City Chiefs wont like that news.

*Michigan State's 2-way star (TE/DE) Kellen Davis' interview with a 3-4 team was interesting. He was asked defensive questions, even though he is grouped into the tight end group. Apparently this A.F.C. East franchise, which runs the 3-4 base defense, thinks his versatility is a key and they wanted to know if he would do some outside linebacker position workouts at his pro day since he wont be doing them here.

*Rutgers' offensive lineman Jeremy Zuttah's interviews have also been going very well. One A.F.C. North G.M. who interviewed him Friday night said he specifically asked him a question right at the beginning to throw this kid off. He questioned his ability to play tackle or guard at the next level and told him several reasons why he felt that way and asked him how he could overcome it to make himself a player? Zuttah, without hesitation, said that no offensive lineman in this draft plays with more effort and "want to" than him and that if this G.M. drafted him he'd work extremely hard to become a pro bowl center. His remarks shocked the G.M. and he went on to say it was one of the better interviews he has seen. He also mentioned that he felt Jeremy's best spot may actually be center.

*The best combine so far is between Jake Long and Purdue tight end Dustin Keller. And they've both really impressed with their interviews. But the real talk in the first level of the stands from every G.M. and coach is the offensive line. No team has told us that the offensive line class is weak. The same is true for the running backs....Many scouts and execs, however, think wide receiver is the most overrated position here in Indy.

*The running backs that have started to impress before workouts are Jonathan Stewart, Justin Forsett and Mike Hart. Hart, in particular, is described as ready to go right away. His interviews have shown he already knows pass protections and he may be ready to make an impact for his team very quickly....Stewart seems very fluid catching the ball and Arkansas' Darren McFadden seems very defensive about his ability to catch the ball in interviews. Some of this is clearly gamesmanship by the teams hoping to make him work out, but it has rubbed others the wrong way.

*Notre Dame safety Tom Zbikowski was apparently challenged on the board by a teams defensive coordinator and ridden real hard. After the questions and answers the DC told him he was not satisfied and was left with questions about his ability to cover the receiver he showed the safety on a film. Tommy Z's response was if he could not cover that particular wide receiver, he would knock the crap out of him to break the ball free. And, Z. said if the coach really did not think he could do it, he would be more than happy to show the other three teams in his division he could and would. Good Stuff by the kid from Chicago.

*Texas running back Jamaal Charles had a rough go of it with the interviews. Some teams threw up film of him and asked about protections and he had a lot of trouble. This could be clear evidence that tells you if you draft him, don't expect him to do much until his second season, at least.

*Veteran defensive tackle Shaun Rogers is trade bait and many 4-3 teams are lining up. Jacksonville, Tennessee, Atlanta, Buffalo, and the New York Jets are all interested. Best offer so far is a 4th rounder.

*Tennesse has tried to shop troubled cornerback Adam Jones here and there is apparently no interested parties, which could mean his N.F.L. career is over. Many have said that they expect him to remain suspended for the entire upcoming season

*The other elite cornerback being shopped here is DeAngelo Hall and it appears there are now about 10 suitors for him. Talks between Atlanta and Detroit have heated up in a Rogers for Hall swap.

*The New York Jets' front office has denied any possible trades with Jacksonville for Laveranues Coles, but they clearly are shopping young linebacker Jonathan Vilma in Indianapolis. Interest in Vilma has been low, however, due to his troubled knee

*Same thing is true with Denver Broncos' wide receiver Javon Walker. Plus, Walker's attitude has also set him back

*Arizona is still out looking for trading partners for wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald. They've had six teams very interested, with only two having serious cap room to make it possible. It seems the stumbling block is getting Fitz' to pay back some bonus money to make the trade a bit more cap friendly for Arizona, which is in dire need of cap space.

*The availability of wide receiver Roy Williams is also in hot debate with Jacksonville, Tennessee, Tampa Bay and New Orleans all interested. The Lions are looking for a second round pick and have told several clubs they would even consider a pick in next years' draft to get a deal done.

 

[Rodeojones]

Great stuff....thanks.

 

[Jeff Haseley]

jeter23 - Awesome info. Thanks again for posting.

 

[FUBAR]

*Michigan offensive tackle Jake Long's interviews have been as impressive as his workouts so far. Look for him to get folks in slots 1 to 4 thinking a bit more

*Most think the New York Giants victory will lead to a mad rush on defensive lineman early in the draft, but we hear the St. Louis Rams are very pleasantly surprised with what they have seen and what they've heard from Jake Long. The Kansas City Chiefs wont like that news.

*The best combine so far is between Jake Long and Purdue tight end Dustin Keller. And they've both really impressed with their interviews...

Long is a beast and intelligent. No chance of him slipping to KC.

*Michigan State's 2-way star (TE/DE) Kellen Davis' interview with a 3-4 team was interesting. He was asked defensive questions, even though he is grouped into the tight end group. Apparently this A.F.C. East franchise, which runs the 3-4 base defense, thinks his versatility is a key and they wanted to know if he would do some outside linebacker position workouts at his pro day since he wont be doing them here.

This sounds like Belichick

*Veteran defensive tackle Shaun Rogers is trade bait and many 4-3 teams are lining up. Jacksonville, Tennessee, Atlanta, Buffalo, and the New York Jets are all interested. Best offer so far is a 4th rounder.

*The other elite cornerback being shopped here is DeAngelo Hall and it appears there are now about 10 suitors for him. Talks between Atlanta and Detroit have heated up in a Rogers for Hall swap.

So, Hall could be dealt for a 1st, or for a DT worth a 4th?

 

[Aussie Cowboy]

*Rutgers' offensive lineman Jeremy Zuttah's interviews have also been going very well. One A.F.C. North G.M. who interviewed him Friday night said he specifically asked him a question right at the beginning to throw this kid off. He questioned his ability to play tackle or guard at the next level and told him several reasons why he felt that way and asked him how he could overcome it to make himself a player? Zuttah, without hesitation, said that no offensive lineman in this draft plays with more effort and "want to" than him and that if this G.M. drafted him he'd work extremely hard to become a pro bowl center. His remarks shocked the G.M. and he went on to say it was one of the better interviews he has seen.

Shocked......seriously? They must have to sit through some really poor interviews.

 

[massraider]

So, Hall could be dealt for a 1st, or for a DT worth a 4th?

Yeah, I think ATL would have to get more in return.I do wonder about ROY for a 2nd round pick. Geez, I would think almost every team in the league would be clamoring for a chance to give the Lions a 2nd round pick for him. Not sure I believe that rumor.

 

[BoltBacker]

*The availability of wide receiver Roy Williams is also in hot debate with Jacksonville, Tennessee, Tampa Bay and New Orleans all interested. The Lions are looking for a second round pick and have told several clubs they would even consider a pick in next years' draft to get a deal done.

No comments on this bit? Has this already been rumored?

 

[Mr. Peterson]

*The availability of wide receiver Roy Williams is also in hot debate with Jacksonville, Tennessee, Tampa Bay and New Orleans all interested. The Lions are looking for a second round pick and have told several clubs they would even consider a pick in next years' draft to get a deal done.

No comments on this bit? Has this already been rumored?

I would think he is the exact type of WR Buffalo is looking for. I'm not sure who would be the main target if he came to Buffalo, but Edwards stock would have to go up.

 

[coolnerd]

So, Hall could be dealt for a 1st, or for a DT worth a 4th?

Yeah, I think ATL would have to get more in return.I do wonder about ROY for a 2nd round pick. Geez, I would think almost every team in the league would be clamoring for a chance to give the Lions a 2nd round pick for him. Not sure I believe that rumor.

A team would need to commit a huge contract for williams also who is coming off injury although that does not appear career threatening. William is scheduled to be a FA after this season if memory serves me correct.

 

[Max Power]

*The availability of wide receiver Roy Williams is also in hot debate with Jacksonville, Tennessee, Tampa Bay and New Orleans all interested. The Lions are looking for a second round pick and have told several clubs they would even consider a pick in next years' draft to get a deal done.

No comments on this bit? Has this already been rumored?

The rumor is that once he becomes a FA he will jump ship to Dallas, Houston or NO in order to be closer to his family.

 

[saintfool]

The rumor is that once he becomes a FA he will jump ship to Dallas, Houston or NO in order to be closer to his family.

he would fantastic in black and gold.

 

[FUBAR]

*The availability of wide receiver Roy Williams is also in hot debate with Jacksonville, Tennessee, Tampa Bay and New Orleans all interested. The Lions are looking for a second round pick and have told several clubs they would even consider a pick in next years' draft to get a deal done.

No comments on this bit? Has this already been rumored?

The rumor is that once he becomes a FA he will jump ship to Dallas, Houston or NO in order to be closer to his family.

Roy on any of those teams is interesting. TO, Witten and Roy - might cause clubhouse problems, but Romo would become Peyton and Brady's equal in FF

AJ, Daniels, and Roy -

Colston, Bush, and Roy -

He'd be the #2 or 3 option on any of those teams, but what a boon for the QB.

 

[BoltBacker]

*The availability of wide receiver Roy Williams is also in hot debate with Jacksonville, Tennessee, Tampa Bay and New Orleans all interested. The Lions are looking for a second round pick and have told several clubs they would even consider a pick in next years' draft to get a deal done.

No comments on this bit? Has this already been rumored?

The rumor is that once he becomes a FA he will jump ship to Dallas, Houston or NO in order to be closer to his family.

Thanks for the info. The part that surprised me in particular was the 2nd round pick. Is that what the talk is in DET? He's only worth a 2nd rounder?

 

[Andy Herron]

*The availability of wide receiver Roy Williams is also in hot debate with Jacksonville, Tennessee, Tampa Bay and New Orleans all interested. The Lions are looking for a second round pick and have told several clubs they would even consider a pick in next years' draft to get a deal done.

No comments on this bit? Has this already been rumored?

Ya, I posted this in the Cowboys thread over a month ago and everybody wanted to beat me up about it.I just told them to be patient, it would come out eventually.

 

[FUBAR]

*The availability of wide receiver Roy Williams is also in hot debate with Jacksonville, Tennessee, Tampa Bay and New Orleans all interested. The Lions are looking for a second round pick and have told several clubs they would even consider a pick in next years' draft to get a deal done.

No comments on this bit? Has this already been rumored?

The rumor is that once he becomes a FA he will jump ship to Dallas, Houston or NO in order to be closer to his family.

Thanks for the info. The part that surprised me in particular was the 2nd round pick. Is that what the talk is in DET? He's only worth a 2nd rounder?

With the $ he'll want, do you think he's worth more?How about something involving Roy and Fitzgerald.

 

[FUBAR]

*The availability of wide receiver Roy Williams is also in hot debate with Jacksonville, Tennessee, Tampa Bay and New Orleans all interested. The Lions are looking for a second round pick and have told several clubs they would even consider a pick in next years' draft to get a deal done.

No comments on this bit? Has this already been rumored?

Ya, I posted this in the Cowboys thread over a month ago and everybody wanted to beat me up about it.I just told them to be patient, it would come out eventually.

great, but how are the Cowboys involved with this post?

 

[Max Power]

*The availability of wide receiver Roy Williams is also in hot debate with Jacksonville, Tennessee, Tampa Bay and New Orleans all interested. The Lions are looking for a second round pick and have told several clubs they would even consider a pick in next years' draft to get a deal done.

No comments on this bit? Has this already been rumored?

The rumor is that once he becomes a FA he will jump ship to Dallas, Houston or NO in order to be closer to his family.

Thanks for the info. The part that surprised me in particular was the 2nd round pick. Is that what the talk is in DET? He's only worth a 2nd rounder?

He might be worth a low 2nd rounder as a lot of teams should see him as a one year rental. If he is the guy that can get a team over the top it might be worth it. From what I hear he flys down to Texas everytime he gets a day or two off. He has also made it very clear to his teammates that Texas is where his Heart is.

 

[massraider]

*The availability of wide receiver Roy Williams is also in hot debate with Jacksonville, Tennessee, Tampa Bay and New Orleans all interested. The Lions are looking for a second round pick and have told several clubs they would even consider a pick in next years' draft to get a deal done.

No comments on this bit? Has this already been rumored?

The rumor is that once he becomes a FA he will jump ship to Dallas, Houston or NO in order to be closer to his family.

Thanks for the info. The part that surprised me in particular was the 2nd round pick. Is that what the talk is in DET? He's only worth a 2nd rounder?

He might be worth a low 2nd rounder as a lot of teams should see him as a one year rental. If he is the guy that can get a team over the top it might be worth it. From what I hear he flys down to Texas everytime he gets a day or two off. He has also made it very clear to his teammates that Texas is where his Heart is.

Didn't know all this. NFL teams would have to be allowed to discuss an extension in that case. Not sure Dallas or Houston would be in the mix for him.

 

[Andy Herron]

*The availability of wide receiver Roy Williams is also in hot debate with Jacksonville, Tennessee, Tampa Bay and New Orleans all interested. The Lions are looking for a second round pick and have told several clubs they would even consider a pick in next years' draft to get a deal done.

No comments on this bit? Has this already been rumored?

Ya, I posted this in the Cowboys thread over a month ago and everybody wanted to beat me up about it.I just told them to be patient, it would come out eventually.

great, but how are the Cowboys involved with this post?

Post #91They'll be involved if they don't land Fitzgerald.