Russian Roulette style draft (1 Viewer)

[IDrinkyourMilkshake]

Here is the dealio.

I think its a borderline genius, borderline stupid and borderline fun way of drafting.

1) Lets assume you play in a 12 team league.

2) Before the draft, determine draft order by picking numbers out of a hat.

3) Take a league approved list of 24 QB's and put it in a QB hat. Take a league approved list of 36 RB's and put it in a RB hat and so on (you get the picture).

4) The draft is normal snake style

5) Each round when your turn comes, you have to choose a hat to make a selection from (Ex. 2nd Round I want to pick from the WR hat)

6) Whichever name you pick is the player you just drafted

7) This is how everyone gets to pick their team

8) To avoid abuse, everyone must have the same number of players at each position (2 QBs, 3 RBs, 5 WR etc.)

9) Standard ww/fa after draft is concluded. So you can pick up any "sleepers" you might have.

Could it work? Has something like this been done? I think it pulls a whole new spin on draft strategy. You could go for WR with your first choice. You might get lucky and pick Larry Fitzgerald. But you could be unlucky and get stuck with Jordy Nelson. Everything is a gamble. You could end up with an awesome team or a crappy team. I think it would really test the in-seasoning managing skills of an owner.

 

[duece2626]

Wouldn't be too bad if it was a low cost league ($20-$30) I can't see spending $100 on something like this.

 

[Invictus~Bronte]

This might be fun as a party game when the guest list is compiled of a roomful of Fantasy Football geeks..

Which isn't to say

 

[comfortably numb]

I remember my 1st few years of FF we had 10 team leagues.

We would get the A all the way through the 10.

for each RD we would select our draft slot.

So you could end up with the 1st pick in each RD.

This seemed normal to us before discovering the serpentine

The above mentioned, would be kinda fun

 

[Sleeping King]

So basically you want to be Matt Millen.

 

[IDrinkyourMilkshake]

So basically you want to be Matt Millen.

You can only pick from the WR hat a certain amount of times.

 

[rapidskies]

Would be fun until I end up being the guy who picks the #24QB the #35 & #36 RBs and the #55-60 WRs. P

 

[sbonomo]

So basically you take all strategy away and make it based on luck? No offense but it sounds like fun for a women’s league or a bunch of newbie’s.

 

[Cassius]

So basically you take all strategy away and make it based on luck? No offense but it sounds like fun for a women’s league or a bunch of newbie’s.

It's only without strategy if you don't know even the most basic of statistical algorithm.

 

[Chargers86]

So basically you take all strategy away and make it based on luck? No offense but it sounds like fun for a women’s league or a bunch of newbie’s.

Sounds like my startup IDP dynasty league last where I ended up getting MJD, Chris Johnson, and Ray Rice (16th round) in a PPR league. I went 11-2 and won the Superbowl and now everyone wants to re-draft because they don't want to be stuck with the teams that they drafted. I told them to #### off and do your homework next time.

 

[Cassius]

So basically you take all strategy away and make it based on luck? No offense but it sounds like fun for a women’s league or a bunch of newbie’s.

Sounds like my startup IDP dynasty league last where I ended up getting MJD, Chris Johnson, and Ray Rice (16th round) in a PPR league. I went 11-2 and won the Superbowl and now everyone wants to re-draft because they don't want to be stuck with the teams that they drafted. I told them to #### off and do your homework next time.

Really nothing to do with this thread or that post, but I guess you just wanted a place to brag about some league.

 

[Sweet Love]

So basically you take all strategy away and make it based on luck? No offense but it sounds like fun for a women’s league or a bunch of newbie’s.

I get that point of view, but most of us here (especially if you are here in freakin' March) would welcome somthing different. Now, if the WHOLE draft (or team for that matter) went this way, then yes, I could see your point. But if you only go about 7 rounds this way, and go "traditional NFL draft" (i.e. 1-12, no serpentine, based from crummiest draw to best), it would be pretty fun to see if the best could stay there, and the worst could make up ground.

 

[Sweet Love]

So basically you take all strategy away and make it based on luck? No offense but it sounds like fun for a women’s league or a bunch of newbie’s.

Sounds like my startup IDP dynasty league last where I ended up getting MJD, Chris Johnson, and Ray Rice (16th round) in a PPR league. I went 11-2 and won the Superbowl and now everyone wants to re-draft because they don't want to be stuck with the teams that they drafted. I told them to #### off and do your homework next time.

Really nothing to do with this thread or that post, but I guess you just wanted a place to brag about some league.

I second that emotion...seriously, what does that have to do with the price of eggs in China?

 

[Chargers86]

So basically you take all strategy away and make it based on luck? No offense but it sounds like fun for a women’s league or a bunch of newbie’s.

Sounds like my startup IDP dynasty league last where I ended up getting MJD, Chris Johnson, and Ray Rice (16th round) in a PPR league. I went 11-2 and won the Superbowl and now everyone wants to re-draft because they don't want to be stuck with the teams that they drafted. I told them to #### off and do your homework next time.

Really nothing to do with this thread or that post, but I guess you just wanted a place to brag about some league.

Chris, is that you? Dude I told you I would put in $20 for your buy-in this year. Don't quit on us after one year??? You have the 2nd overall pick! You can make up some ground!

 

[IDrinkyourMilkshake]

So basically you take all strategy away and make it based on luck? No offense but it sounds like fun for a women’s league or a bunch of newbie’s.

XA true shark only proves his worth when he finds himself surrounded by a bunch of killer whales with Correll Buckhalter as his RB1.

 

[IDrinkyourMilkshake]

So basically you take all strategy away and make it based on luck? No offense but it sounds like fun for a women’s league or a bunch of newbie’s.

I get that point of view, but most of us here (especially if you are here in freakin' March) would welcome somthing different. Now, if the WHOLE draft (or team for that matter) went this way, then yes, I could see your point. But if you only go about 7 rounds this way, and go "traditional NFL draft" (i.e. 1-12, no serpentine, based from crummiest draw to best), it would be pretty fun to see if the best could stay there, and the worst could make up ground.

You get to play FF like life. Life isn't fair. You don't win the lottery (CJ), have rock solid abs (MJD) and have secks with Jessica Alba (Ray Ray).

 

[steviey]

Add another wrinkle where you can either keep the name you pull out of the hat or exchange it for a different one. So if you initially pull the 7th rated QB on your draft board you have to decide whether or not to keep him or take your chances on getting something better (while risking that you might get something considerably worse). Kind of a pass the ace element.

 

[flapgreen]

This is better than California Holdem

 

[Grond]

A few years back I concocted a league for folks that really liked the draft aspect of fantasy football.

We drafted picks prior to the player draft. There were actually two player drafts - one NFC-only players, one AFC-only. Required number of players per position and you could only draft one pick per round, per conference draft. So, it ended up being actually 3 drafts: pick draft and two conference drafts. Looking back at my old draft sheets I ended up with:

NFC 1.09

AFC 1.02

NFC 2.08

AFC 2.01

NFC 3.01

AFC 3.02

NFC 4.02

AFC 4.05

etc.

One interesting thing was the AFC has a significantly greater number of stud players than the NFC; people who planned smartly had much superior teams compared to those who went after drafting the highest pick available in the highest open round. AFC 3.01 was definitely worth more than NFC 2.05, for example.

 

[D'OHtis]

Add another wrinkle where you can either keep the name you pull out of the hat or exchange it for a different one. So if you initially pull the 7th rated QB on your draft board you have to decide whether or not to keep him or take your chances on getting something better (while risking that you might get something considerably worse). Kind of a pass the ace element.

I like this. I'm sure there are more wrinkles that could be installed to make the drafting style noted in the OP more interesting.

 

[offdee]

What about the opposite end of the spectrum...

Do it this way for the players that would normally get drafted rounds 6 and after....you pick all these players out of a hat russian roulette style to start the draft.

After all names are picked out of the hat there is a system to determine who compiled the worst lot of picks, etc.

Then the guy who got the worst lot of picks now gets the 1.01 pick, the guy who got the 2nd worst lot of picks gets the 1.02 and so on. Then the normal draft happens with all the top players left to choose from for 5 rounds.

Now, you even up the deck more and the balance of luck/fun is matched with knowledge/skill and the strategy based around your actual draft choices from the lot of remaining studs could be revolved around the mid/late-tier players that you picked out of a hat and hope to hit gold on.

Also this makes the draft more interesting the entire time. Instead of all the excitement at the beginning of drafting the studs, now they will be the players getting drafted to wrap up the draft. Russian roulette to start and studs draft to end...no usual tail off of excitement after 15 rounds like a normal draft has.

 

[flapgreen]

This thread has really hung tough

 

[QuizGuy66]

This most reminds me of the old yahoo autopick format from some years ago (I don't think they still use it, but perhaps they do - it's been a while since I did a yahoo league for fun). Each round was assigned to a position and conference (QB-RB-TE-WR-K-etc). I believe you got a different pick in each of the 12 rounds, but it was luck of the draw which position you got pick 1 for. So you could get, say the #1 AFC QB and the #12 NFC QB on your list or the #1 and #12 kickers for each conference, for example. I got a ridiculously monstrous team out of this format .

-QG

 

[FUBAR]

What about the opposite end of the spectrum...Do it this way for the players that would normally get drafted rounds 6 and after....you pick all these players out of a hat russian roulette style to start the draft.After all names are picked out of the hat there is a system to determine who compiled the worst lot of picks, etc.Then the guy who got the worst lot of picks now gets the 1.01 pick, the guy who got the 2nd worst lot of picks gets the 1.02 and so on. Then the normal draft happens with all the top players left to choose from for 5 rounds.Now, you even up the deck more and the balance of luck/fun is matched with knowledge/skill and the strategy based around your actual draft choices from the lot of remaining studs could be revolved around the mid/late-tier players that you picked out of a hat and hope to hit gold on.Also this makes the draft more interesting the entire time. Instead of all the excitement at the beginning of drafting the studs, now they will be the players getting drafted to wrap up the draft. Russian roulette to start and studs draft to end...no usual tail off of excitement after 15 rounds like a normal draft has.

I like it or go round by round - first round everyone draws from a hat, 2nd round is a normal draft in order of worst to best. Repeat, every odd round is hat, every even round based on last round's draw.

 

[Jason Wood]

Russian Roulette drafting?

Sorry to be the one to tell you this, but Al Davis has that term trademarked.

 

[BucFan40]

I'm not a huge fan of this because I think it takes out a lot of scouting, but it could be fun to add a twist in a low dollar league. How about adding just a little more skill. Instead of just having all of the player names in the hat, add in a bunch of "Open Pick" options. So if you reach in and get Eli Manning, then that's your QB. If you reach in and get "Open Pick" then you get to draft which ever QB you want who's left. Maybe you could even throw one or two "white elephant" or "joker" picks in there. If you reach in the hat and draw that one you can steal someone else's player. And if we're going that far, add an option where someone else picks your player, essentially giving you the worst of the bunch.

 

[Dexter Manley]

Really disappointed after reading the thread title and discovering there's no gun involved in your new style of drafting.

One of my leagues has a unique style of draft. 10 team league and each team starts 10 players (QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, K, DL, LB, DB) in league play. During the draft you have to draft an entire starting lineup before drafting backups at any position. Makes for some interesting strategy. You can sandbag certain positions because you know you'll get at least a top 10 or top 20 player on your board at each position. Also makes it uber important to keep track of who every team's drafted.

The only thing I don't like about it is that whoever has the 1st picks basically gets 2 1st picks because they have 11.01 too. Optimally, the serpentine would reverse its order starting in round 11. But sometimes it works out in favor of teams with the later picks (like this year) because there's a dozen or so guys in the top tier left available after the first 10 rounds.

 

[B. Nugget]

The first couple of years I played fantasy (roughly 10 years ago) we would rent a bingo set and mark a ball for ourselves.

Then we would draw the numbers out to determine a completely random draft order. I didn't really see the folly of the ways until I repeatedly got a late draft spot in each round while a few guys seemed to get early picks each round. After a few years, we moved to serpentine.

Now looking back, it seems so bizarre and vastly unfair compared to serpentine. I wonder where they got the idea? Maybe the NBA lottery?

Did anybody else ever do this?

 

[Stillers Jr.]

Really disappointed after reading the thread title and discovering there's no gun involved in your new style of drafting.

That seriously made me LOL...

 

[Doug Drinen]

6) Whichever name you pick is the player you just drafted 7) This is how everyone gets to pick their team

Do you reveal the name of the guy you picked, or is that only for you to know (until the draft is over)?

 

[Black]

So basically you want to be Matt Millen.

You can only pick from the WR hat a certain amount of times.

HA! x2!!

 

[Black]

6) Whichever name you pick is the player you just drafted 7) This is how everyone gets to pick their team

Do you reveal the name of the guy you picked, or is that only for you to know (until the draft is over)?

You put the name on a list. Then make a copy of that list. Then put the list in a safe place.Regarding the whole draft thing, I would think this would be fun right up until kickoff of week 1.

 

[IDrinkyourMilkshake]

6) Whichever name you pick is the player you just drafted 7) This is how everyone gets to pick their team

Do you reveal the name of the guy you picked, or is that only for you to know (until the draft is over)?

I originally considered revealing the pick but I like the second option better. It just feels more dangerous.

 

[flapgreen]

When will the suicide draft occur?

 

[Lord Fantasy]

I would try this new method if instead of putting the names into a hat you put them into a pinata.

 

[Frank Costanza's Lawyer]

You see, it would be this mat that you would put on the floor and it would have different conclusions written on it that you could jump to.

 

[dehaven123]

You see, it would be this mat that you would put on the floor and it would have different conclusions written on it that you could jump to.

Ha Classic.

 

[Grid71]

Hire a Russian stripper to creatively pull the names for you. Last year's league winner gets a visit in the champagne room.