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Ryan Grant and Which Packer Player Will Lead the Packer Offense (1 Viewer)

smackdaddies

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Well, Ryan Grant should have another good week. But as they say, predicting that is yesterdays news. If you don't have him on your roster, he is likely no longer available.

However, everything still holds true for Grant that did last week, plus a few extra tidbits.

KC (at Arrowhead) - 26th ranked rush d - and they have some terrible linebackers (ok, one really good one, but the rest have blown chunks). Get past the line, you have a good chance of getting some decent 5+ yard carries

Outdoor game - Ryan Grants historical average is +1 yard on grass over turf

Stark's - pulled in 3 straight games, out last week, sat out practice Wed- there is no reason for the Packers to rush him back

Seine - not back yet, but it is thought he will be cleared for Thursday practice.

Kuhn's is still a potential fly in the ointment, however interestingly enough, the Packers pulled Grant and ran Kuhn's about the same time they pulled Rodgers in the 3rd quarter - to me that means the Pack think Grant has some value.

Whatever you think of Grant, the Packers continued to list him as their #1 RB, even when Starks was getting the most carries

Basically the same play as last week - if you are lucky enough to be in the playoffs and your starting RBs have gone the way of the dodo, Grant is a legitimate start - just don't think lighting will strike twice. Be happy with a single bolt. Say 80 yards and 1 td.

The real question is who is the benefactor of Jennings injury - with more than 19 packers getting td's this year, guessing which packer will pick up the slack is a crap shoot. Plus, if I predicted Jordy Nelson, so what - you have no chance of picking him up on the waiver wire - same goes for Finley. And if you own them, your starting them.

Good thing I don't think either of them will be pulling up the slack in the receiving game (THIS WEEK). Sure, they will get their catches - but who is going to get Jennings?

First, KC actually has a decent pass D - 10th best. The Brandon Twins actually are good DB's - they have held both Welker and Mike Wallace in check in the past several weeks. Unfortunately, they only have two good cover guys....lets see...one on Jordy, one on Finley, that leaves.....nobody of any skill to cover the rest of the receivers. And as KC typically plays man to man coverage, that is going to leave a number of above average packer receivers covered by a bunch of below average cover guys. Plus, as Rodgers throws to the open guy, some of Jordy's normal receptions are going to go to other receivers - I expect Jordy to have a below average game

Grant is a poor receiver, I don't think Starks or Seine will see any significant time if any, so that leaves them out. The other TE will get a few catches, but I have seen no indications that any of them are even good receivers in the NFL. So we have Cobb/Jones/Driver as options

I don't think Cobb will be the big beneficiary - he is to valuable on the return game so I still believe the Packers will limit his plays

Jones - capable of a big game, but, well, truth be hold, I have just never liked him that much. So I discount him. Sure, that kind of analysis sucks, but there you go. He could have a big game. But I just don't think so.

That leaves.... the Donald. Donald Driver. The old man. The receiver think is on his way out - this season his swan song as the young bucks rise to prominence Well, not so fast. Consider this .......

Donald still has it. Anyone who watched him in the last several games knows that he still is fast enough, and has better than average hands, even for the Packers, to actually hang with NFL DB's. Especially below average ones. 8 recpt and 2td in the past two games.

Donald has been on the field for more than 30 plays in each of the past four weeks - his playing time I believe actually has gone up as the season progressed.

Rodgers has gone to Driver in tight situations more often in the past four weeks than he has earlier in the season.

So - if your lucky enough to still be playing in FF, and your looking for a #3 WR to pick up the slack in a depleted roster - Driver is a player that may well be available. Lets call it 100 yards and a td against the Chiefs. If Driver has been picked up, Jones is likely not a bad chance either, I just think Driver will be the major benefactor.

Last, remember, the game still matters - technically it is possible for the Niners to overtake the Packers and get homefield advantage in the NFC championship game, so the Packers will be playing to win. So Rodgers plays at least three quarters, even if it is a blow out

Youse pays your money and youse takes your chances - but I like the chances of both Grant and Driver doing well this week.

 
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KC (at Arrowhead) - 26th ranked rush d - and they have some terrible linebackers (ok, one really good one, but the rest have blown chunks). Get past the line, you have a good chance of getting some decent 5+ yard carries
Really? You haven't watched much of them I guess.
 
Grant has only scored in 1 game this year. I still think he will have to score from outside the 5 to get in because it's Kuhn time inside there. He only had 10 carries last week before the game got out of hand. I'd expect 12-15 carries and a catch or two. 50-60 yards rushing, 10-15 receiving and say a 40% shot at a TD. good for 9-10 fantasy points this week.

I do think Driver catches a few more this week as well, but it's very hard to tell who will have the big game. If you are feeling bold, go with Cobb because he is the most likely to see garbage time targets I think and has a better chance than Driver for a big play.

 
Yeah, the concern with Grant is if the game is in hand in the 3rd quarter, he gets pulled for Khun and you miss out on the 4th quarter carries. OTOH he's pretty much a lock for at least 8 points or so worth of yardage if you're looking for a "safe" flex play with limited upside.

 
what do you rank RB Grant this week? Top 10 RB?
nah. He is in the 15-25 range. I am not predicting last week redux. I am simply predicting that if you need a rb to fill in for an injury(s), he is a good bet to give you some points. A good RB2, especially in non ppr leagues.The whole point of my original post was to identify a player who could be had on the waiver wire and be a good start, helping you win. Unfortunately, if you didn't take my advice last week, he probably is not available in most leagues this week.
 
Feels like a Grant 2 td day and Kuhn will nab another TD or two in the 4th. Limited success for the passing game as they won't need it and Rodgers only plays 2.5 quarters.

 
Bump FINLEY he goes off this week, I see them pulling Grant after Finley does the damage, and run the scrubs the 3 and 4th quarter

GO PACK GO

 
Well if we are to believe Aaron Rodgers, then James Jones and CObb will be the biggest beneficiaries with Jennings out:

Randall Cobb might see bigger role

(TheHuddle) Green Bay Packers WR Randall Cobb has the best slot receiver skills among the team's healthy receivers heading into Week 15, and he might earn a good portion of the opportunities WR Greg Jennings normally gets in the middle of the field. Analysis: The Packers have plenty of receivers capable of stepping up to fill the void left by Jennings' injury, and the explosive Cobb is certainly near the top of the list. The way Aaron Rodgers spread the ball around, Cobb is just one of several Packers who should see an uptick in productivity over the next few weeks.

 
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They guy's a jerk. Don't sweat it.
this is at least the third thread asking the same question. And, you are not being excellent. And, you don't know me. Move along.
I have not asked any question. I have not beseeched the FGB gods for divination.I have provided analysis and reasoning, as well as advice based on the first two. Feel free to disagree if you like with that, but this is not the same thing as the others have, casting their fleece asking for guidance.
 
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They guy's a jerk. Don't sweat it.
this is at least the third thread asking the same question. And, you are not being excellent. And, you don't know me. Move along.
I understand now. You read the title of the post, were confused by the rhetorical nature of it. Updated the title for you. Feel free to read the post now.
 
From today's GBPostGazette

Running back James Starks' recurring ankle injury didn't respond well to a rigorous workout on Tuesday, so he wasn't cleared by team doctors to return to practice Wednesday. He will be examined again Friday but looks like a good bet to miss his second straight game



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Also held out of practice Wednesday were running back Brandon Saine and defensive lineman Ryan Pickett. Both sustained concussions on Sunday against the Raiders, but McCarthy said there’s good chance they would be cleared in time to play against the Chiefs.

 
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'Mario Kart said:
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They guy's a jerk. Don't sweat it.
this is at least the third thread asking the same question. And, you are not being excellent. And, you don't know me. Move along.
Dude spent a fair amount of time writing up a decent analysis. Give him some credit for the effort and maybe mention - perhaps nicely - that the issue's been taken up elsewhere. Instead, you take the smart$$$ route, which appears to be your MO. I stand by my claim.
 
Finley will be the recipient of a huge game, well if he catches everything thrown at him.

The KC DB's are good as was stated, Nelson, Cobb, Jones and Driver will open the field up for Finley.

I see 12 catches for 140yds and 3TDs for Finley this week.

MONSTER game.

 
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Green Bay - Not much changed from Wednesday to Thursday.

The same players who did not practice Wednesday were not present today.

Running back James Starks (ankle) was present, but did not participate.

End Ryan Pickett (concussion), RB Brandon Saine (concussion), LT Chad Clifton (hamstring / back) and WR Greg Jennings (knee) were all out.

Guard Josh Sitton took part in individual drills again during the portion open to the media. We'll find out later whether he did anything in team drills.

Also, LB A.J. Hawk appeared to be taking part in everything.



I think you can assume that Grant is a go for another decent game.

 
chirst last weeks thread everyone is ripping on grant like he is the worst player ever, now most everyone seems to think he has a decent to good game. Leads me to believe he will have a stinker this week...

 
James Starks (ankle, questionable) said Friday that he definitely plans to play in Week 15 against the Chiefs.

The decision may not be up to Starks, but he's confident. "It'll probably be another game-day right now, but I feel good about it," he said. Starks practiced on a limited basis Friday. He said he thinks his ankle is "healthy enough to play" against K.C., and there is "no reason to be cautious" with the NFL playoffs coming. Starks still wouldn't be a Week 15 fantasy option. Dec 16 - 2:44 PM

scaring off any potential Grant starters?

 
James Starks (ankle, questionable) said Friday that he definitely plans to play in Week 15 against the Chiefs.

The decision may not be up to Starks, but he's confident. "It'll probably be another game-day right now, but I feel good about it," he said. Starks practiced on a limited basis Friday. He said he thinks his ankle is "healthy enough to play" against K.C., and there is "no reason to be cautious" with the NFL playoffs coming. Starks still wouldn't be a Week 15 fantasy option. Dec 16 - 2:44 PM

scaring off any potential Grant starters?

If starks plays, which I doubt, it will hurt grant. But I think there will be some points to go around here vs the chiefs. Im still starting grant...
 
Bump FINLEY he goes off this week, I see them pulling Grant after Finley does the damage, and run the scrubs the 3 and 4th quarterGO PACK GO
Thank you. This, please. Facing an opponent whom I almost have cornered and he has lucked into Grant vs KC and with Starks and Saine out.Hopefully Finley shows up as the preferred goalline option.Question: besides Kuhn at FB, does GB have even another backup HB who could show up?
 
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Bump FINLEY he goes off this week, I see them pulling Grant after Finley does the damage, and run the scrubs the 3 and 4th quarterGO PACK GO
Thank you. This, please. Facing an opponent whom I almost have cornered and he has lucked into Grant vs KC and with Starks and Saine out.Hopefully Finley shows up as the preferred goalline option.Question: besides Kuhn at FB, does GB have even another backup HB who could show up?
Nope. Pretty sure its the grant and kuhn show
 
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Bump FINLEY he goes off this week, I see them pulling Grant after Finley does the damage, and run the scrubs the 3 and 4th quarterGO PACK GO
Thank you. This, please. Facing an opponent whom I almost have cornered and he has lucked into Grant vs KC and with Starks and Saine out.Hopefully Finley shows up as the preferred goalline option.Question: besides Kuhn at FB, does GB have even another backup HB who could show up?
Nope. Pretty sure its the grant and kuhn show
Anybody starting Kuhn as a desperation play? Just picked him up and pick him in over Hillis. I'll either be a genius or a friggin' idiot!
 

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