Ryan Zimmerman owners -- what are you doing? (1 Viewer)

[Brock Middlebrook]

I'm considering dumping him befor his value gets any lower

Was flat out sucks - killing his Rs and RBIs

Was's new manager doesn't run - killing his SB's

I'm considering offering him straight up for Troy Glaus....

I talked myself into retaining him as a keeper and I've been kicking myself ever since.

 

[RedRaiders]

I kept him at $5 as well - would have to pay him $10 next season if I continue to hold on to him.

Right now I'm gong to wait it out, but he's at an attractive price that I should probably consider moving him.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

PATIENCE

 

[guru_007]

I'd say panic after 7 games seems like a good idea.

Before the season, did you expect Washington to be great? They lost their biggest offensive weapon in the offseason, and didn't do much to improve in an already tough division.

Yet, after a slow start, you are willing to 'dump' a 23 year old third baseman who hit .287 with 20 hr's and 110 RBI's last year for a team that went 71-91?

No one is going to give you fair value right now for Ryan Zimmerman, and you're just going to get hosed in a trade. If anything you want to be targeting guys off to slow starts rather than looking to get rid of them. The only reason I'm not very high on Zimmerman is he plays in a pitchers park. Other than that, the guy looks like a very solid offensive talent for many years to come.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

I'd say panic after 7 games seems like a good idea.Before the season, did you expect Washington to be great? They lost their biggest offensive weapon in the offseason, and didn't do much to improve in an already tough division.Yet, after a slow start, you are willing to 'dump' a 23 year old third baseman who hit .287 with 20 hr's and 110 RBI's last year for a team that went 71-91?No one is going to give you fair value right now for Ryan Zimmerman, and you're just going to get hosed in a trade. If anything you want to be targeting guys off to slow starts rather than looking to get rid of them. The only reason I'm not very high on Zimmerman is he plays in a pitchers park. Other than that, the guy looks like a very solid offensive talent for many years to come.

I'l play devil's advocate here:20 HR's and 100 RBI's in 614 AB's. That's a lot of AB's.He also had 120 K's (tied for 34th in MLB), and pitchers have had time to figure him out.Also, when Nick Johnson comes back, how effective will he be?

 

[guru_007]

I'd say panic after 7 games seems like a good idea.Before the season, did you expect Washington to be great? They lost their biggest offensive weapon in the offseason, and didn't do much to improve in an already tough division.Yet, after a slow start, you are willing to 'dump' a 23 year old third baseman who hit .287 with 20 hr's and 110 RBI's last year for a team that went 71-91?No one is going to give you fair value right now for Ryan Zimmerman, and you're just going to get hosed in a trade. If anything you want to be targeting guys off to slow starts rather than looking to get rid of them. The only reason I'm not very high on Zimmerman is he plays in a pitchers park. Other than that, the guy looks like a very solid offensive talent for many years to come.

I'l play devil's advocate here:20 HR's and 100 RBI's in 614 AB's. That's a lot of AB's.He also had 120 K's (tied for 34th in MLB), and pitchers have had time to figure him out.Also, when Nick Johnson comes back, how effective will he be?

He's 23. I see no reason for him not to get 600+ AB's again.Strikeouts were a concern, but no player is perfect. His OBP was an acceptable .351....and this was only his first full season. If you project a regression in him, you shouldn't have drafted or kept him. I expect him to get better....it's just I don't expect him to get as good as fast as others in my leagues have, thus I felt he was moderately overvalued. Nick Johnson coming back is not going to effect Zimmerman at all. The Nats as a team are doing horribly, but they will not be this bad all year. I have to think Johnson will be a better offensive force than Dmitri Young which will help. And it's hard to run, when you are not getting on base, and constantly behind. The Nats are not going to go 10-152. I'd project Zimmerman to have 25 or so homers, 100 RBI's, .290 average, 80 runs, and 10 SBs. That's pretty respectable and I'd expect something in return according to these projections if I were going to trade him.

 

[koby925]

I'd say panic after 7 games seems like a good idea.Before the season, did you expect Washington to be great? They lost their biggest offensive weapon in the offseason, and didn't do much to improve in an already tough division.Yet, after a slow start, you are willing to 'dump' a 23 year old third baseman who hit .287 with 20 hr's and 110 RBI's last year for a team that went 71-91?No one is going to give you fair value right now for Ryan Zimmerman, and you're just going to get hosed in a trade. If anything you want to be targeting guys off to slow starts rather than looking to get rid of them. The only reason I'm not very high on Zimmerman is he plays in a pitchers park. Other than that, the guy looks like a very solid offensive talent for many years to come.

I'l play devil's advocate here:20 HR's and 100 RBI's in 614 AB's. That's a lot of AB's.He also had 120 K's (tied for 34th in MLB), and pitchers have had time to figure him out.Also, when Nick Johnson comes back, how effective will he be?

He's 23. I see no reason for him not to get 600+ AB's again.Strikeouts were a concern, but no player is perfect. His OBP was an acceptable .351....and this was only his first full season. If you project a regression in him, you shouldn't have drafted or kept him. I expect him to get better....it's just I don't expect him to get as good as fast as others in my leagues have, thus I felt he was moderately overvalued. Nick Johnson coming back is not going to effect Zimmerman at all. The Nats as a team are doing horribly, but they will not be this bad all year. I have to think Johnson will be a better offensive force than Dmitri Young which will help. And it's hard to run, when you are not getting on base, and constantly behind. The Nats are not going to go 10-152. I'd project Zimmerman to have 25 or so homers, 100 RBI's, .290 average, 80 runs, and 10 SBs. That's pretty respectable and I'd expect something in return according to these projections if I were going to trade him.

Exactly. If anything, the Stick's return will help Zimmerman. For protection and he'll knock Zimmerman in more than Young will. And Logan's return should help. He's by no means great, but with him at 1 and Lopez 2, Zimmerman should have more guys on base than they do now with whatever #2 batter du jour the Nats are throwing out there.

 

[TinHat]

in 2K6, Zim was 11/19 (58%) in SB attempts.

There is no way the new guy sends Zimm 19 times.

The new guy hates the SB unless you can be successful at a much higher rate than that.

10 SB and 25 HR is high.

I'm thinking 3 and 18 is more likely.

.315 80 18 80 3

 

[JZilla]

I kept him at $5 as well - would have to pay him $10 next season if I continue to hold on to him.Right now I'm gong to wait it out, but he's at an attractive price that I should probably consider moving him.

I'll take him. Interested in Oliver Perez?

 

[JZilla]

The perplexing decision to keep a rookie who can't hit in the two-spot is screwing up the Nationals' ability to produce runs. As soon as the light comes on Zimmerman's numbers may go up.. a bit. Church should be batting second. That would give you competent batters in spots 1-5. Manny Acta is already striking me as a moron.

And you're right, he doesn't run and that sucks for Zim AND Felipe owners, not to mention the dummies who gambled on Nook Logan.

 

[RedRaiders]

I kept him at $5 as well - would have to pay him $10 next season if I continue to hold on to him.Right now I'm gong to wait it out, but he's at an attractive price that I should probably consider moving him.

I'll take him. Interested in Oliver Perez?

I can't get over how every one of my guys has really started slow. I didn't keep Zimmerman for the 10 steals though. He got thrown out a ton last year. Still - like you said - they could have a better 1-5 with Church up there + Nick Johnson may return in a couple months. I'm holding for now.

 

[pelland]

I'm considering dumping him befor his value gets any lowerWas flat out sucks - killing his Rs and RBIsWas's new manager doesn't run - killing his SB'sI'm considering offering him straight up for Troy Glaus....I talked myself into retaining him as a keeper and I've been kicking myself ever since.

Troy Glaus heel is bothering him again, early speculation is possible bone spur and out up to a month. I'm a Zimmerman fan, and agree with the Patience post.

 

[Disco Stu]

I needed a 3B, so I actually just traded FOR Zimmerman. Gave up Thome, who was rotting on my bench.

If you want to unload him I'm sure you can find a taker.

 

[my man otis]

I needed a 3B, so I actually just traded FOR Zimmerman. Gave up Thome, who was rotting on my bench.If you want to unload him I'm sure you can find a taker.

wow.

 

[eoMMan]

I think Zimmerman will be fine. He's just going through a mini-slump.

He hit .414 with 3 homers in the spring.

He'll bounce back.

 

[Disco Stu]

Zimmerman may finally be coming around...

7 game hitting streak

2 hits in three straight

finally homered yesterday (grand slam that doubled his RBI total)

 

[Bobcat10]

I'm watching him heat up.