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Very suprised that NO is going after Brees - if they land him I would assume they go Brick at #2. That could leave Tenn staring at a choice of Leinart and Cutler with the Jets getting the leftover.

Could get interesting!

QB bidding grows intenseDeals for Daunte Culpepper and Drew Brees are apparently close to fruition, but the Dolphins' role in either deal is apparently unknown.BY JASON COLEjcole@MiamiHerald.comThe NFL's quarterback merry-go-round appeared to hit the accelerator Thursday as free agency neared with Minnesota appearing to have a deal in place to trade Daunte Culpepper and San Diego's Drew Brees apparently closing in on a deal.

But the question was whether the Dolphins were the destination for either former Pro Bowl player.

A Minneapolis TV station reported Thursday night that the Dolphins are the likely destination for Culpepper. However, a source indicated that Oakland might be making the strong push for Culpepper.

A high-ranking Dolphins source denied that Miami had worked out a deal for Culpepper, although he admitted that there had been extensive talks initiated by the Vikings.

Minnesota has grown weary of Culpepper's offseason demands, such as asking for more money and, on Wednesday, asking for a trade or release. According to multiple reports, the Vikings decided Thursday to part company with Culpepper as soon as possible.

The Vikings have also talked with Oakland, Baltimore and Arizona about Culpepper. NFL.com reported Thursday afternoon that a deal for Culpepper had been set, but didn't name the team and said Oakland was deciding whether to match the offer.

As for Brees, an NFL source said New Orleans has stepped forward as the strongest contender for his services. The Saints, Dolphins and Detroit have reportedly been the strongest suitors to date, but the Saints have guaranteed more money than the other two teams.

All three are still considered to be in the running, but the NFL source said the Saints appeared to be the strongest.

''From what I know right now, it's set where he's going, and it's not Miami,'' the source said.

Where that leaves the Dolphins is in a potentially problematic situation. If they get neither Culpepper nor Brees, the Dolphins are expected to go after either Patrick Ramsey of Washington in a trade or approach Arizona's Josh McCown.

Ramsey has visited the New York Jets, which has already made a trade offer to the Redskins and a contract offer to Ramsey. McCown has a number of teams interested in him.

In the meantime, the Dolphins have not released quarterback Gus Frerotte, their starter from last season.

 
Just posted same thread in the Dolphins free agent thread in regard the possibility of Culpepper and Brees being off the market for the Phins.

If the Saints are truly interested in Brees and they make a push for him, what does this mean come the Draft:

1) They still take Young to groom behind Brees (how patience will VY be?)

2) They try and trade down (lose leverage if they sign Brees, I would think)

3) They pick someone else at #2.

 
this makes sense on some levels. they have as strong a need for his services as any other team after all. i think they would have to cut brooks before this could happen because of the cap implications et al.

what then be the lure of drafting at 1.2? maybe d'brick but i see them trading down. they could be making a play for a guy like hawk, who would anchor the LB corps for years to come.

 
Just posted same thread in the Dolphins free agent thread in regard the possibility of Culpepper and Brees being off the market for the Phins.

If the Saints are truly interested in Brees and they make a push for him, what does this mean come the Draft:

1) They still take Young to groom behind Brees (how patience will VY be?)

2) They try and trade down (lose leverage if they sign Brees, I would think)

3) They pick someone else at #2.
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I do not believe the Saints and going to sign Brees but if they did#2 seems to be the best option; trade the down a few slots and get some much needed help in other areas.

 
The Saints are not that bad of a team on paper. If they could get Brees and draft D'brick, they all ready have Horn and Stallworth with Boo coming back this season and Duece should be ready to go. Not too shabby. This makes a lot of sense. The Saints might not have the talent in place to wait on a QB to mature.

 
The Saints are not that bad of a team on paper. If they could get Brees and draft D'brick, they all ready have Horn and Stallworth with Boo coming back this season and Duece should be ready to go. Not too shabby. This makes a lot of sense. The Saints might not have the talent in place to wait on a QB to mature.
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They drafter Jammal Brown, OT, in the 2005 1st round. Everything I have read says they are very happy. I think the help needed is on defense.
 
Just posted same thread in the Dolphins free agent thread in regard the possibility of Culpepper and Brees being off the market for the Phins.

If the Saints are truly interested in Brees and they make a push for him, what does this mean come the Draft:

1) They still take Young to groom behind Brees (how patience will VY be?)

2) They try and trade down (lose leverage if they sign Brees, I would think)

3) They pick someone else at #2.
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#1 is not even reasonable. No team would take on a #2 overall pick salary to go along with a fat FA salary at teh same position. That doesn't even make sense.
 
If there OL is solid and they grab Brees I would think that a trade down would be likely. Maybe force the JEts to deal a 3rd to ensure getting their QB of choice. Then trade down again and grab Hawk or the big TE.

Smart move for NO IMO - become a power broker.

 
Can't imagine Brees going to NO. He got hammered in his first couple years at SD, while they were rebuilding. Why would he want to go though that again when he could play for a playoff caliber team?

 
Can't imagine Brees going to NO. He got hammered in his first couple years at SD, while they were rebuilding. Why would he want to go though that again when he could play for a playoff caliber team?
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:moneybag:
 
The Saints are not that bad of a team on paper. If they could get Brees and draft D'brick, they all ready have Horn and Stallworth with Boo coming back this season and Duece should be ready to go. Not too shabby. This makes a lot of sense. The Saints might not have the talent in place to wait on a QB to mature.
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They drafter Jammal Brown, OT, in the 2005 1st round. Everything I have read says they are very happy. I think the help needed is on defense.
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Brown is a RT and doesn't have the skill to play LT. If the Saints get D'Brick to play LT they will have a formidable OL, even with losing Bentley.
 
The Saints are not that bad of a team on paper. If they could get Brees and draft D'brick, they all ready have Horn and Stallworth with Boo coming back this season and Duece should be ready to go. Not too shabby. This makes a lot of sense. The Saints might not have the talent in place to wait on a QB to mature.
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Boo williams has already been cut. Zach Hilton is the pass catching TE and a decent fantasy sleeper. (see 2nd half numbers)
 
I think taking D'Brick is a no-brainer here. I think he is virtually bust proof, and will make that OL very formitable. Brees needs time; he's not the type of player who will make plays with his legs or with his arm - he's a decision maker who needs protection.

The weapons are there (Duece, Horn, Stallworth) and the OL is there if the Saints take Brick. Signing Brees and grabbing defense and a young TE in the draft would go along way in turning the Saints around.

 
The Saints are not that bad of a team on paper. If they could get Brees and draft D'brick, they all ready have Horn and Stallworth with Boo coming back this season and Duece should be ready to go. Not too shabby. This makes a lot of sense. The Saints might not have the talent in place to wait on a QB to mature.
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They drafter Jammal Brown, OT, in the 2005 1st round. Everything I have read says they are very happy. I think the help needed is on defense.
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Brown played well last year but he was RT. D'brick is LT and would supplant the venerable Gandy. Gandy was expected to be replaced last year by the much younger Stinchcomb. Stinch fell victim to injury though. DF would offer an immediate upgrade over both at this stage of the game.While I like DF, I think it might be more prudent to see what Gandy/Stinchcomb can do. Passing up on a guy like Hawk, especially given it's been a need position for the team the past several years, when you have a shot at him (which could be the case if they get brees and trade down).

 
Brown is a RT and doesn't have the skill to play LT. If the Saints get D'Brick to play LT they will have a formidable OL, even with losing Bentley.
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:thumbup: D'Brickashaw Ferguson is the lead pipe lock here.

1) Bush

2) Ferguson

3) Leinart

 
The Saints are not that bad of a team on paper. If they could get Brees and draft D'brick, they all ready have Horn and Stallworth with Boo coming back this season and Duece should be ready to go. Not too shabby. This makes a lot of sense. The Saints might not have the talent in place to wait on a QB to mature.
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They drafter Jammal Brown, OT, in the 2005 1st round. Everything I have read says they are very happy. I think the help needed is on defense.
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Brown played well last year but he was RT. D'brick is LT and would supplant the venerable Gandy. Gandy was expected to be replaced last year by the much younger Stinchcomb. Stinch fell victim to injury though. DF would offer an immediate upgrade over both at this stage of the game.While I like DF, I think it might be more prudent to see what Gandy/Stinchcomb can do. Passing up on a guy like Hawk, especially given it's been a need position for the team the past several years, when you have a shot at him (which could be the case if they get brees and trade down).
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Hawk is an option and I wouldn't consider it a bad pick since he's obviously a play-maker. However, Stinchcomb seems to have a lot of injury problems and I wouldn't want to have to rely on him at LT. By drafting D'Brick the Saints can play Stinchcomb at LG and move Jacox to center. That's just what I would do but I'm big on building OL's and don't want to see Brees getting crushed. Seems like a win-win situation either way to me.
 
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Very suprised that NO is going after Brees - if they land him I would assume they go Brick at #2.  That could leave Tenn staring at a choice of Leinart and Cutler with the Jets getting the leftover. 

Could get interesting!

QB bidding grows intenseDeals for Daunte Culpepper and Drew Brees are apparently close to fruition, but the Dolphins' role in either deal is apparently unknown.BY JASON COLEjcole@MiamiHerald.comThe NFL's quarterback merry-go-round appeared to hit the accelerator Thursday as free agency neared with Minnesota appearing to have a deal in place to trade Daunte Culpepper and San Diego's Drew Brees apparently closing in on a deal.

But the question was whether the Dolphins were the destination for either former Pro Bowl player.

A Minneapolis TV station reported Thursday night that the Dolphins are the likely destination for Culpepper. However, a source indicated that Oakland might be making the strong push for Culpepper.

A high-ranking Dolphins source denied that Miami had worked out a deal for Culpepper, although he admitted that there had been extensive talks initiated by the Vikings.

Minnesota has grown weary of Culpepper's offseason demands, such as asking for more money and, on Wednesday, asking for a trade or release. According to multiple reports, the Vikings decided Thursday to part company with Culpepper as soon as possible.

The Vikings have also talked with Oakland, Baltimore and Arizona about Culpepper. NFL.com reported Thursday afternoon that a deal for Culpepper had been set, but didn't name the team and said Oakland was deciding whether to match the offer.

As for Brees, an NFL source said New Orleans has stepped forward as the strongest contender for his services. The Saints, Dolphins and Detroit have reportedly been the strongest suitors to date, but the Saints have guaranteed more money than the other two teams.

All three are still considered to be in the running, but the NFL source said the Saints appeared to be the strongest.

''From what I know right now, it's set where he's going, and it's not Miami,'' the source said.

Where that leaves the Dolphins is in a potentially problematic situation. If they get neither Culpepper nor Brees, the Dolphins are expected to go after either Patrick Ramsey of Washington in a trade or approach Arizona's Josh McCown.

Ramsey has visited the New York Jets, which has already made a trade offer to the Redskins and a contract offer to Ramsey. McCown has a number of teams interested in him.

In the meantime, the Dolphins have not released quarterback Gus Frerotte, their starter from last season.
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I think it solidifies the idea that Tenn is NOT sitting still with Leinart and Bush at the top of the draft.they're going to make a push for one or the other, but need to acquire that #1 or #2 pick to do so...

They could get N.O. to slide down just 1 spot, and take Leinart at #2..maybe toss in another pick in 3rd or 4th round?

Also, very little has been mentioned about the fact that Tenn could be going after Bush..Chris Brown and Travis ( Bust) Henry don't exactly inspire praise when you hear their names..

they both suck.

 
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Hawk is an option and I wouldn't consider it a bad pick since he's obviously a play-maker. However, Stinchcomb seems to have a lot of injury problems and I wouldn't want to have to rely on him at LT. By drafting D'Brick the Saints can play Stinchcomb at LG and move Jacox to center. That's just what I would do but I'm big on building OL's and don't want to see Brees getting crushed. Seems like a win-win situation either way to me.
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they're not happy with jacox or nesbit, from what i understand. they like montrae holland at OG though. stinchcomb, however, hasn't been a starter for the saints and last year really looked like his chance. i don't know that i would characterize him as injury prone, considering he played primarily on special teams for most of the time. i don't disagree that DF would offer an upgrade and positive impact on the team. however, the LB position has been adequate at best for years and the line is stable, if nothing else. hawk would negate the clear liability that the defense has been, especially with regards to the defending the run. hawk looks like the real deal.

 
Article below

Very suprised that NO is going after Brees - if they land him I would assume they go Brick at #2.  That could leave Tenn staring at a choice of Leinart and Cutler with the Jets getting the leftover. 

Could get interesting!

QB bidding grows intenseDeals for Daunte Culpepper and Drew Brees are apparently close to fruition, but the Dolphins' role in either deal is apparently unknown.BY JASON COLEjcole@MiamiHerald.comThe NFL's quarterback merry-go-round appeared to hit the accelerator Thursday as free agency neared with Minnesota appearing to have a deal in place to trade Daunte Culpepper and San Diego's Drew Brees apparently closing in on a deal.

But the question was whether the Dolphins were the destination for either former Pro Bowl player.

A Minneapolis TV station reported Thursday night that the Dolphins are the likely destination for Culpepper. However, a source indicated that Oakland might be making the strong push for Culpepper.

A high-ranking Dolphins source denied that Miami had worked out a deal for Culpepper, although he admitted that there had been extensive talks initiated by the Vikings.

Minnesota has grown weary of Culpepper's offseason demands, such as asking for more money and, on Wednesday, asking for a trade or release. According to multiple reports, the Vikings decided Thursday to part company with Culpepper as soon as possible.

The Vikings have also talked with Oakland, Baltimore and Arizona about Culpepper. NFL.com reported Thursday afternoon that a deal for Culpepper had been set, but didn't name the team and said Oakland was deciding whether to match the offer.

As for Brees, an NFL source said New Orleans has stepped forward as the strongest contender for his services. The Saints, Dolphins and Detroit have reportedly been the strongest suitors to date, but the Saints have guaranteed more money than the other two teams.

All three are still considered to be in the running, but the NFL source said the Saints appeared to be the strongest.

''From what I know right now, it's set where he's going, and it's not Miami,'' the source said.

Where that leaves the Dolphins is in a potentially problematic situation. If they get neither Culpepper nor Brees, the Dolphins are expected to go after either Patrick Ramsey of Washington in a trade or approach Arizona's Josh McCown.

Ramsey has visited the New York Jets, which has already made a trade offer to the Redskins and a contract offer to Ramsey. McCown has a number of teams interested in him.

In the meantime, the Dolphins have not released quarterback Gus Frerotte, their starter from last season.
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I think it solidifies the idea that Tenn is NOT sitting still with Leinart and Bush at the top of the draft.they're going to make a push for one or the other, but need to acquire that #1 or #2 pick to do so...

They could get N.O. to slide down just 1 spot, and take Leinart at #2..maybe toss in another pick in 3rd or 4th round?

Also, very little has been mentioned about the fact that Tenn could be going after Bush..Chris Brown and Travis ( Bust) Henry don't exactly inspire praise when you hear their names..

they both suck.
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Not one thing close to being accurate there. Why...and with what would the Titans make a push for Bush/Leinart?

Brown and Henry are both cheap and have had success as a feature runner. Bush would be nice to have, but certainly isnt a need to jump up and get.

Absolutely no reason for them to give up more picks and move up with 2 of Ferguson, Bush, Leinart, Culter and Young all there at 3.

 
There was talk during the season of the NFL giving the Saints a higher cap than the rest of the league to offset the disadvantage they have going after FA's because of the situation from the hurricane.

Did that actually happen or did they decide against it? If so, does anyone know how much additional cap they get?

 
This move would make a ton of sense...would give the Saints a ton of leverage with the 2nd pick. For them to come away with Brees and D'Brick would be enormous for a franchise in need of some goodwill.

 
Just posted same thread in the Dolphins free agent thread in regard the possibility of Culpepper and Brees being off the market for the Phins.

If the Saints are truly interested in Brees and they make a push for him, what does this mean come the Draft:

1) They still take Young to groom behind Brees (how patience will VY be?)

2) They try and trade down (lose leverage if they sign Brees, I would think)

3) They pick someone else at #2.
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More like, 'WHEW!!!!' we won't be stuck with the flop that will be Vince Young. Tennessee also says 'WHEW, we get Leinart'. Jets......sorry.
 
The Saints are much better off at LT than they are at linebacker. Trade back or just take Hawk at 2.

Man I hope this is true.

 
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