Saints' Passing Game With Colston Out (1 Viewer)

[zamboni]

I didn't see a thread specifically dedicated to the overall Saints passing game post-Colston, so I thought I'd start one.

With Colston expected to be out 4 weeks or so, that does open up some targets as Brees will still be airing it out.

Sproles and Graham probably have their roles intact, with Graham possibly an even greater red zone target with Colston not there.

And then there is Meachem and Henderson, who played well on Thursday and have shown flashes in the past - but also tend to disappear just as quickly. And now we have Moore coming back, and possibly Arrington getting more PT.

Curious as to what the sharks think - does anyone truly benefit much from Colston's absence, or is it still a crapshoot week-to-week depending on how Brees reacts to the defense?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I didn't see a thread specifically dedicated to the overall Saints passing game post-Colston, so I thought I'd start one.

With Colston expected to be out 4 weeks or so, that does open up some targets as Brees will still be airing it out.

Sproles and Graham probably have their roles intact, with Graham possibly an even greater red zone target with Colston not there.

And then there is Meachem and Henderson, who played well on Thursday and have shown flashes in the past - but also tend to disappear just as quickly. And now we have Moore coming back, and possibly Arrington getting more PT.

Curious as to what the sharks think - does anyone truly benefit much from Colston's absence, or is it still a crapshoot week-to-week depending on how Brees reacts to the defense?

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Sproles, I agree, but in PPR only. He is still not startable in a TD heavy.

Look for Graham to be the Target in the redzone as they have him lining up in the slot when Colston can't a lot of the time.

Oh, and, you should read other threads for an answer before posting a question that has been asked 37 times already.

 

[Insein]

I'm wondering if Henderson will have continued value now. He had 9 targets on Thursday to lead the team with Colston and Sproles. Does Lance Moore steal his targets or is there enough to go around for him to be a legit threat?

 

[zamboni]

Oh, and, you should read other threads for an answer before posting a question that has been asked 37 times already.

As indicated up front, there was a Colston injury thread and one about Henderson, but I didn't see an all-in thread.But thanks for bringing the charm.

 

[Sack-Religious]

I think it'll likely be slight bumps across the board. The guy who most closely duplicates what Colston does in terms of size mismatches and having a large catch radius is Graham, so as others have said Graham's value may increase in the redzone. It's possible that Graham will now play outside more often with Thomas playing more frequently as the in-line TE, but I'd think that the Saints would prefer to have Meachem or Henderson line up wide and move Graham and Moore around to create mis-matches, sometimes in the slot and sometimes split out wide.

All that said, Brees will still spread it around and he's shown in the past he's not afraid to go to anyone who's open, so it's not like he's going to lock on to one specific guy.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Oh, and, you should read other threads for an answer before posting a question that has been asked 37 times already.

As indicated up front, there was a Colston injury thread and one about Henderson, but I didn't see an all-in thread.But thanks for bringing the charm.

Does it need a thread?

 

[Neofight]

Oh, and, you should read other threads for an answer before posting a question that has been asked 37 times already.

As indicated up front, there was a Colston injury thread and one about Henderson, but I didn't see an all-in thread.But thanks for bringing the charm.

Does it need a thread?

It's generating good discussion, outside of your posts and those responding to you. So yes.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Oh, and, you should read other threads for an answer before posting a question that has been asked 37 times already.

As indicated up front, there was a Colston injury thread and one about Henderson, but I didn't see an all-in thread.But thanks for bringing the charm.

Does it need a thread?

Why do you feel the need to berate just about every poster? If you're not interested in the thread, you're not obligated to post in it.

 

[mr roboto]

My worry would be that they won't be in shootouts with the Packers every week, but I think Meachem and Henderson are both decent WR 3 starts w/out Colston.

 

[Da Guru]

One WR will not get all the riches..see the Saints running more of an Obama offense and spreading the wealth.

 

[Norwood...Wide Right!]

Agreed that Colston's injury does not likely benefit anyone in particular. Arrington's value of course gets bumped if he sees the field, but with Moore returning and Brees' penchant for spreading the ball around, you still have 5 or 6 solid receivers. My guess is that each will average an extra target or so in Colston's absence.

 

[Wrigley]

Oh, and, you should read other threads for an answer before posting a question that has been asked 37 times already.

As indicated up front, there was a Colston injury thread and one about Henderson, but I didn't see an all-in thread.But thanks for bringing the charm.

Does it need a thread?

yet, here you are.

 

[mr roboto]

Oh, and, you should read other threads for an answer before posting a question that has been asked 37 times already.

As indicated up front, there was a Colston injury thread and one about Henderson, but I didn't see an all-in thread.But thanks for bringing the charm.

Does it need a thread?

Why do you feel the need to berate just about every poster? If you're not interested in the thread, you're not obligated to post in it.

Just Cuz...

 

[Jason Wood]

Henderson didn't make our Upgrades/Downgrades column, which I found surprising considering he's on waivers in a lot more of my leagues than many other guys listed. He had 9 targets and 100 yards and a TD, hard to not take a flier on that.

 

[Insein]

Henderson didn't make our Upgrades/Downgrades column, which I found surprising considering he's on waivers in a lot more of my leagues than many other guys listed. He had 9 targets and 100 yards and a TD, hard to not take a flier on that.

Even Meachem is worth a look. They seem to be the mid range to deep threats anyway. You'll never be able to consistently predict which one will go off each week but the odds are one of them will. When it comes down to it, the same could be said for all WR's. They have on weeks and off weeks. We never really know when it will happen.

 

[ThePittbully]

Lance Moore benefits most if he's healthy. Graham and Meachem after that

 

[dwashington]

New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton says on his coaching show the team won't add a receiverNew Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton says on his coaching show the team won't add a receiver

 

[Two Deep]

Adrain Arrington........ He'll see the field and contribute.

 

[travdogg]

Lance Moore benefits most if he's healthy. Graham and Meachem after that

That's how I see it too.

 

[LawFitz]

I don't understand why the Saints won't make a play for Moss. Dude can still play IMO and would make a huge impact in this offense. Worst case, if he fails, Colston comes back and you cut the guy.

 

[bonesman]

Could everyone please not quote or respond to Just Cuz? Kind of defeats the purpose of me having him on ignore. TIA

Henderson didn't make our Upgrades/Downgrades column, which I found surprising considering he's on waivers in a lot more of my leagues than many other guys listed. He had 9 targets and 100 yards and a TD, hard to not take a flier on that.

I dislike Devery, but it kind of reminds me of Lloyd last year. No way do I think he explodes to that magnitude... but it's kind of a similar situation.

 

[Podcast]

Henderson didn't make our Upgrades/Downgrades column, which I found surprising considering he's on waivers in a lot more of my leagues than many other guys listed. He had 9 targets and 100 yards and a TD, hard to not take a flier on that.

Yeah, he did.

 

[wudaben]

Henderson didn't make our Upgrades/Downgrades column, which I found surprising considering he's on waivers in a lot more of my leagues than many other guys listed. He had 9 targets and 100 yards and a TD, hard to not take a flier on that.

The initial upgraded didn't include any Saints or Packers but they are now included in today's version and Henderson is much lower then I would have anticipated!

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

I think Graham and Meachem can most easily fill Colston's role. Graham is just a physical beast, but Meachem also has good size and muscle, so he can fight for the ball in traffic and win some jump balls. his TD catch against GB was one where he had to go over the top of a DB.

but how that all shakes out in terms of targets, you never know with Sean Payton.

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

I don't understand why the Saints won't make a play for Moss. Dude can still play IMO and would make a huge impact in this offense. Worst case, if he fails, Colston comes back and you cut the guy.

Why?They've got a guy in Arrington that knows the offense well, has looked good in the preseason.....again knows the offense well...not limited to one route.

Seems like every single year we get folks saying 'why don't they add _____'. There's a reason why mid-year WR adds don't produce great results. There's a reason why Deion Branch looks better than Ocho Cinco so far.

Arrington will put up better #'s than Moss would this year. Saints need guys that know what route to run, Brees needs someone that'll be at that right spot at the right time.

 

[Captain Fantastic]

Very interesting to see the perspective differences.

Perspective 1: Colston filled role "X" on the NO offense. Colston out, therefore, another player (likely with similar strengths) will be asked to fill role "X" and will benefit from the situation.

Perspective 2: Colston filled role "X" on the NO offense. Colston out, therefore, role "X" is reduced in importance and play-calling will reflect a greater emphasis in other roles.

If you're a Perspective 1 guy, then you're betting on guys like Jimmy Graham.

If you're a Perspective 2 guy, then you're betting on Meachem or Henderson.

I think either perspective is very legitimate and I wouldn't say you're wrong for either. For me personally, I think Payton's offensive mind works in such a way that Perspective B is more likely. Also, I'm viewing this as Meachem's "last chance" to prove something to me. I've been waiting on his head to catch up to his talent and see him emerge as "the guy" in the Saints offense (well, as much as anyone can ever be "the guy" in the offense), and this might be the catalyst.

Just my take on it though.

 

[az_prof]

Very interesting to see the perspective differences.Perspective 1: Colston filled role "X" on the NO offense. Colston out, therefore, another player (likely with similar strengths) will be asked to fill role "X" and will benefit from the situation.Perspective 2: Colston filled role "X" on the NO offense. Colston out, therefore, role "X" is reduced in importance and play-calling will reflect a greater emphasis in other roles.If you're a Perspective 1 guy, then you're betting on guys like Jimmy Graham.If you're a Perspective 2 guy, then you're betting on Meachem or Henderson.I think either perspective is very legitimate and I wouldn't say you're wrong for either. For me personally, I think Payton's offensive mind works in such a way that Perspective B is more likely. Also, I'm viewing this as Meachem's "last chance" to prove something to me. I've been waiting on his head to catch up to his talent and see him emerge as "the guy" in the Saints offense (well, as much as anyone can ever be "the guy" in the offense), and this might be the catalyst.Just my take on it though.

This make sense to me. I guess I am a Perspective 2 guy, and part of it is that I just haven't seen that much from Graham. I really don't get the hype as he hasn't DONE that much to merit it.

 

[duaneok66]

I don't understand why the Saints won't make a play for Moss. Dude can still play IMO and would make a huge impact in this offense. Worst case, if he fails, Colston comes back and you cut the guy.

Why?They've got a guy in Arrington that knows the offense well, has looked good in the preseason.....again knows the offense well...not limited to one route.

Seems like every single year we get folks saying 'why don't they add _____'. There's a reason why mid-year WR adds don't produce great results. There's a reason why Deion Branch looks better than Ocho Cinco so far.

Arrington will put up better #'s than Moss would this year. Saints need guys that know what route to run, Brees needs someone that'll be at that right spot at the right time.

unfortunately, this brilliant post won't stop all the "Moss is coming " posts from flooding the SP . . .