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Saints vs. Bears (1 Viewer)
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The Grizzly One
Footballguy
It will be great. Even if the Bears lose I can feel happy for New Orleans. But unfortunately for NO the Bears win 34-31.
geoff8695
Footballguy
I think the Bears play more of a ball control game next week (behind Benson), grinding clock, shortening the game, keeping the ball out of Brees' hands. If they can win time of possession and keep the Bears D fresh, then Urlacher and the defense will manage enough timely stops and turnovers to win the game despite the number of playmakers on the NO offense.
Bears 24
Saints 20
Bears 24
Saints 20
which side you on?
f360spyder
Footballguy
NO is quite susceptible to the big play, as shown by Stallworth and Westbrook.
Berrian's in for a big day next week.
Berrian's in for a big day next week.
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Football Jones
Footballguy
I think the Saints take this one. The Bears look like the really miss Tommie Harris.
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
omally
Footballguy
I think with McAllister and Bush, the Saints can grind out the clock just as easily.I think the Bears play more of a ball control game next week (behind Benson), grinding clock, shortening the game, keeping the ball out of Brees' hands. If they can win time of possession and keep the Bears D fresh, then Urlacher and the defense will manage enough timely stops and turnovers to win the game despite the number of playmakers on the NO offense.Bears 24Saints 20
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Saints win because of Hurricane support.
f360spyder
Footballguy
omally
Footballguy
Brees played college football at Purdue. It's cold there. He has also played in cold weather places while playing for San Diego. He'll be just fine in cold weather conditions.
No doubt they're better than Philly, but how well can they handle Deuce led by Karney? Throw in Bush reverse motion and that's alot to deal with for a banged up, struggling defense.
Pnishthm
Footballguy
Dude, we know as you say this in every thread about the Saints. Give it up already.
ThePittbully
Footballguy
Dont forget the power and size of colston and the burning speed of devery henderson, bears D will have their hands full next week.
Pygmy Marmoset
Footballguy
I'm a Saints season ticket holder - this year and now I've signed on for next. I think that contractually obligates me to root for the Saints.But I've been a Bears fan all my life, as has every member of my family since the Chicago Staleys in 1921. Essentially, this game is my worst nightmare.I'm pulling for the Saints. I have to. This is my city now. However, my family's going to kill me. Probably rightfully so.At least I didn't change teams while the Bears sucked for the majority of my life. I did it while they're favorites.####.which side you on?
boxter
Footballguy
From a Purdue season ticket holder living in Chicagoomally said:
urdue plays a couple games in November each season when it might get cold. There's a big difference between November in West Lafayette and January in Chicago where it can be frigid.Today's temp was a moderate 32. We expect it to be colder next week. Frigid weather may not affect Brees as much as fumbles and drops from the RBs and WRs. Passing stats may depend on the wind.
Back in 85, Dickerson fumbled several times in the Championship game. And in the previous week, the Giants punter fanned on a punt. That said, since 85, the Bears have not faired well in what Ditka coined as Bear weather. Too many guys from Florida and Texas on their roster. Rex is, after all, a Gator. And the Bears practice in a heated bubble.
To further reminisce about Chicago playoff weather, it was unseasonably warm weather that brought about The Fog Bowl.
sainttillidie
Footballguy
Doesnt matter. Their offense makes up for all that the defense falls short of. I tell you one thing, the bears do not have an offense like Philly that allow them the BIG PLAY. Average but efficient. Kick ### Saints.HULLOBUDMAN said:
sainttillidie
Footballguy
Boo Hoo HooA win again ov said:
Saints are fortunate to have a BYE. Think about it. How often does a 10-6 team get a bye? The NFC was weak. They are playing this week due in large part to the fact that there is no-one else.
That said, if a club as weak as the Saints had hopes of making the super bowl, this is the type of bracket you'd want to have. They really need to only pull off one upset of significance, beat the Bears, and they are in.
The Bears, on the other hand, would be chokers if they failed to win the NFC.
That said, if a club as weak as the Saints had hopes of making the super bowl, this is the type of bracket you'd want to have. They really need to only pull off one upset of significance, beat the Bears, and they are in.
The Bears, on the other hand, would be chokers if they failed to win the NFC.
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Too bad those nasty New Orleans fans held a gun to your head and made you buy season tickets.Pygmy Marmoset said:I'm a Saints season ticket holder - this year and now I've signed on for next. I think that contractually obligates me to root for the Saints.But I've been a Bears fan all my life, as has every member of my family since the Chicago Staleys in 1921. Essentially, this game is my worst nightmare.I'm pulling for the Saints. I have to. This is my city now. However, my family's going to kill me. Probably rightfully so.At least I didn't change teams while the Bears sucked for the majority of my life. I did it while they're favorites.####.which side you on?
Pygmy Marmoset
Footballguy
What the #### are you babbling about?Too bad those nasty New Orleans fans held a gun to your head and made you buy season tickets.Pygmy Marmoset said:I'm a Saints season ticket holder - this year and now I've signed on for next. I think that contractually obligates me to root for the Saints.But I've been a Bears fan all my life, as has every member of my family since the Chicago Staleys in 1921. Essentially, this game is my worst nightmare.I'm pulling for the Saints. I have to. This is my city now. However, my family's going to kill me. Probably rightfully so.At least I didn't change teams while the Bears sucked for the majority of my life. I did it while they're favorites.####.which side you on?
Statorama
Footballguy
Brees is going to have to find those soft spots in the zone next week the way that Hasselbeck did a few times today. His play will be the key.
The Bears don't have any gamebreaker runningbacks, so the big play isn't an issue there. They've (edit: Saints) been repeatedly exposed on the long ball, and Grossman/Berrian seem to be clicking. Not good. Fred Thomas needs to come up big, as he'll probably be isolated on Muhammad plenty in single coverage situations.
The only one I worry about as being affected by the cold weather is Bush. Played at USC and now playing his biggest game as a pro on the road in frigid weather.
Good matchup this weekend. Great offense vs Great defense. I'm rooting hard for the Saints, but it wouldn't kill me to see the Bears in the Superbowl either.
If there's a Saints Superbowl, a Cubs World Series can't be too far behind.
The Bears don't have any gamebreaker runningbacks, so the big play isn't an issue there. They've (edit: Saints) been repeatedly exposed on the long ball, and Grossman/Berrian seem to be clicking. Not good. Fred Thomas needs to come up big, as he'll probably be isolated on Muhammad plenty in single coverage situations.
The only one I worry about as being affected by the cold weather is Bush. Played at USC and now playing his biggest game as a pro on the road in frigid weather.
Good matchup this weekend. Great offense vs Great defense. I'm rooting hard for the Saints, but it wouldn't kill me to see the Bears in the Superbowl either.
If there's a Saints Superbowl, a Cubs World Series can't be too far behind.
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GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
As it stands now, the weather won't even come into play.
It's supposed to be in the low 30s, with very little wind and a 10% chance of precipitation.
If this game was in New Orleans, there would be a definite advantage (noise and turf) for Nawlins.
As it stands now, with the Bears a 1.5 to 3 point favorite, the gambling public clearly think Nawlins has a slight edge - as the home team is typically a 3 point favorite.
Does New Orleans play any better or worse on grass vs. artificial surfaces?
I see they lost at Pittsburgh and Carolina, but I don't recall their playing surfaces. Hell, the Bears lost a couple of games at home on grass.... against Miami's defense with Ronnie Brown racking up huge yardage, and in a meaningless game against Green Bay.
It's supposed to be in the low 30s, with very little wind and a 10% chance of precipitation.
If this game was in New Orleans, there would be a definite advantage (noise and turf) for Nawlins.
As it stands now, with the Bears a 1.5 to 3 point favorite, the gambling public clearly think Nawlins has a slight edge - as the home team is typically a 3 point favorite.
Does New Orleans play any better or worse on grass vs. artificial surfaces?
I see they lost at Pittsburgh and Carolina, but I don't recall their playing surfaces. Hell, the Bears lost a couple of games at home on grass.... against Miami's defense with Ronnie Brown racking up huge yardage, and in a meaningless game against Green Bay.
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
Is there any such thing when the Bears play the Packers??
cowboyz
Footballguy
will mckenzie be on berrian or does he stick to one side of the field?bears will try to isolate berrian and rashied davis on fred thomas. that's appears to be what grossman does best.although desmond clark should have success too.Tiger Fan said:
bears don't have westbrook, so with hollis thomas back, i doubt they'll have success with benson and jones.
it's really going to come down to the bears defense stopping deuce. deuce looks unstoppable while the bears look soft up the middle. with the speed at lb, saints will struggle if they can't get deuce running, because they won't be able to throw short passes to bush.
Pygmy Marmoset
Footballguy
There's a better than average chance, in my opinion, that McKenzie goes on Berrian, Craft comes in to cover Moose, and Thomas doesn't start but rather plays nickel for the game.
At least I hope hat's what happens.
At least I hope hat's what happens.
Only when the Bears lose to Green Bay, then in the minds of Bear fans, it was a meaningless game.And for the record, if the Grossman plays like he did yesterday, I don't see NO winning the game.Is there any such thing when the Bears play the Packers??
But the Chicago DEF has to play much better too.
simey
Footballguy
Carolina's turf is grass, and it never seems to hinder the Saints. They usually play well when they come to Carolina. I hope they play well in Chicago on Sunday. I'll be cheering for them.
saintsfan
Footballguy
The Saints are very capable of beating the Bears.
In fact, I think the Saints match up better with the Bears than they do with Philly. Neither of the Bears RB's are game breakers like Westbrook and Grossman is not even in Garcia's league. Berrian is a threat and the one thing that Grossman seems to do well is throw the deep ball. That could hurt the Saints, but does anybody really think the Bears are gonna make a living driving the ball 80 yards all game?
If the Saints don't turn the ball over, I think they win this one. The key is to run Deuce and don't turn the ball over. Make Grossman have to drive the Bears the length of the field consistently and don't let Devon Hester make any plays.
In fact, I think the Saints match up better with the Bears than they do with Philly. Neither of the Bears RB's are game breakers like Westbrook and Grossman is not even in Garcia's league. Berrian is a threat and the one thing that Grossman seems to do well is throw the deep ball. That could hurt the Saints, but does anybody really think the Bears are gonna make a living driving the ball 80 yards all game?
If the Saints don't turn the ball over, I think they win this one. The key is to run Deuce and don't turn the ball over. Make Grossman have to drive the Bears the length of the field consistently and don't let Devon Hester make any plays.
ATC1
Footballguy
Saints have a problem with quick backs breaking it to the the outside after the inside hole was not there. Ala Westbrook, FWP. Containment on the defense was horrible. I don't think the bears will be able to do that. Westbrook was not able to run up the middle. Fred Thomas was replaced by Jason Craft in the second half for the most part, and did a great job. Garcia to have success the second half needed time to make his progressions to Basket and Smith. Garcia also had his success gaining time by scrambling out of the pocket. Something that Grossman does not do. Grossman will need to be patient and find the open man. The saints will spread the bears defense out, make the LBs cover someone and see if they can run the ball with Duece. Or if the LBs step up to gaurd the run, the seem will be open for the TE. Brees has actually played better on the road this season, I think it will be if the supposting cast will come focused to catch the ball or hold on to it in Chicago.I think the Bears play more of a ball control game next week (behind Benson), grinding clock, shortening the game, keeping the ball out of Brees' hands. If they can win time of possession and keep the Bears D fresh, then Urlacher and the defense will manage enough timely stops and turnovers to win the game despite the number of playmakers on the NO offense.Bears 24Saints 20
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Duece not turning it over is a tall order for him.
saintsfan
Footballguy
Why? Deuce is not a fumbler. Never has been.
Pygmy Marmoset
Footballguy
I assume that's sarcasm, as Deuce has turned the ball over only once in the last two years.
Pygmy Marmoset
Footballguy
Bush will be a non-factor rushing in this game. His strength running the ball is to the outside, and the sideline-to-sideline speed of the Bears D makes that all but silly to even try. Now, screen passes.... that's a little more likely.
That won't happen. Thomas and McKenzie don't switch sides of the field. Unless they feel like they need to bring pressure on Grossman, it shouldn't be that big of a problem because they'll have a safety play over the top on Thomas' side.The Saints have shown they will give up a big play, but they've shown over and over again that they can rebound from it. Giving up A big play doesn't concern me. Unless the Chicago defense from the first half of the season shows up, I think the Saints match up very well.
See, I disagree with that. If the Bears play exactly like they did yesterday, I see the Saints winning this game going away.The Bears are going to need a much better game out of their defense...which of course, they are capable of.If Grossman plays bad, it will take a Herculean effort by the bears defense and special teams to win.
pantagrapher
Footballguy
I'm happy to see snow coming down in Chicago.
The Bears made some solid stops yesterday, but they also exposed some frightening weakness on D. I saw a couple crucial Seattle drives ended not by the Bears D, but by Seattle miscues (dropped passes, bobbled snaps). There were long stretches where it looked like the Bears just could not stop Seattle. That worries me tremendously, because the Saints have a much better offense with much more dangerous weapons.
I hope the weather keeps the game on the ground, because I think the Bears win that matchup (provided Urlacher works on slipping blocks this week).
Bears win, 20-17
The Bears made some solid stops yesterday, but they also exposed some frightening weakness on D. I saw a couple crucial Seattle drives ended not by the Bears D, but by Seattle miscues (dropped passes, bobbled snaps). There were long stretches where it looked like the Bears just could not stop Seattle. That worries me tremendously, because the Saints have a much better offense with much more dangerous weapons.
I hope the weather keeps the game on the ground, because I think the Bears win that matchup (provided Urlacher works on slipping blocks this week).
Bears win, 20-17
BoulderBob
Footballguy
If Tommie Harris was healthy, the Bears would have no problem with the Saints, and only the Colts/Pats would give them fits, however, the defense is not other-worldly without him, and the Saints will find a way to exploit the weaknesses...Saints 27 Bears 20
Bush goes off...
Bush goes off...
psychobillies
Footballguy
Why not?
