Sammie Morris (1 Viewer)

[LBH]

Im not sure Ive seen any quotes from BB saying that Maroney will be the feature back and get all the carries. Considering Maoneys shoulder and questions about his durability does anyone else think Morris could be a steal in the late rds of drafts this year as somebody who could have more of an oppurtunity than whats being talked about? from espn....

Patriots?

Patriots' need filled?

<Jun. 8> New England might continue to monitor the status of Brown, arguably the best running back still available, and a guy who would provide the Pats a viable replacement to the departed Corey Dillon as the backup to starter Laurence Maroney, writes Len Pasquarelli. However, the urgency to find a veteran running back might have been somewhat assuaged this week. Sammy Morris, signed as an unrestricted free agent this spring, had a very productive minicamp, catching the ball well and actually displaying more versatility than Dillon had.

Brown rushed for 1,067 yards in 2004 and 851 yards in 2005 and, while he absorbs a lot of hits because of his upright running style, the guy doesn't have much tread rubbed off his tires. He has carried only 541 times in four years and appeared in just five games in 2006.

 

[LHUCKS]

If by "fill in" you mean take 15 carries a game with a mediocre YPC...yes.

 

[happy_donut]

If by "fill in" you mean take 15 carries a game with a mediocre YPC...yes.

I think the OP was suggesting that Dillon was the goal line back. He was money in the red zone last year.

 

[zdaddy]

No

 

[lions327]

Morris is a backup RB. He will get a few carries, but I think it's a BIG stretch to think he will cut into Maroney's carries, unless Maroney is hurt. I also think Kevin Faulk will be on the field more than Morris because he is a great receiver out of the backfield. I don't see any way Morris gets double figure carries unless by injury.

 

[LBH]

Morris is a backup RB. He will get a few carries, but I think it's a BIG stretch to think he will cut into Maroney's carries, unless Maroney is hurt. I also think Kevin Faulk will be on the field more than Morris because he is a great receiver out of the backfield. I don't see any way Morris gets double figure carries unless by injury.

I think its all speculation by Maroney fantasy owners that he will be getting 20+ carries a game. I havent read anything from the coaching staff to suggest they want to get away from a rbbc. I dont think its unrealistic to believe that they will use Morris in the same way they used Dillon. If im wrong please post a quote from BB saying he wants to make Maroney a work horse back. Also Morris had his best game last year in week 1 of the fantasy playoffs. The team he played against was the Patriots. He had over 160 total yds and a td. I think BBs opinion of Morris's skill and how often he plans on using him might be different than the perception in the fantasy football world. He did average over 4yds a carry in Miami as R.Browns back up

 

[LHUCKS]

If by "fill in" you mean take 15 carries a game with a mediocre YPC...yes.

I think the OP was suggesting that Dillon was the goal line back. He was money in the red zone last year.

gotcha...first read it as if he coudl replace Maroney.

 

[Biabreakable]

Morris is a backup RB. He will get a few carries, but I think it's a BIG stretch to think he will cut into Maroney's carries, unless Maroney is hurt. I also think Kevin Faulk will be on the field more than Morris because he is a great receiver out of the backfield. I don't see any way Morris gets double figure carries unless by injury.

I think its all speculation by Maroney fantasy owners that he will be getting 20+ carries a game. I havent read anything from the coaching staff to suggest they want to get away from a rbbc. I dont think its unrealistic to believe that they will use Morris in the same way they used Dillon. If im wrong please post a quote from BB saying he wants to make Maroney a work horse back. Also Morris had his best game last year in week 1 of the fantasy playoffs. The team he played against was the Patriots. He had over 160 total yds and a td. I think BBs opinion of Morris's skill and how often he plans on using him might be different than the perception in the fantasy football world. He did average over 4yds a carry in Miami as R.Browns back up

IIRC Morris was the 1st move the Patriots made in a very busy offseason signing Morris as one of the 1st free agents aquired when free agency opened.Perhaps there is somthing to this and we are underestimating what Morris's role may be and what he is capable of.

 

[Boston]

Morris is a backup RB. He will get a few carries, but I think it's a BIG stretch to think he will cut into Maroney's carries, unless Maroney is hurt. I also think Kevin Faulk will be on the field more than Morris because he is a great receiver out of the backfield. I don't see any way Morris gets double figure carries unless by injury.

I think its all speculation by Maroney fantasy owners that he will be getting 20+ carries a game. I havent read anything from the coaching staff to suggest they want to get away from a rbbc. I dont think its unrealistic to believe that they will use Morris in the same way they used Dillon. If im wrong please post a quote from BB saying he wants to make Maroney a work horse back. Also Morris had his best game last year in week 1 of the fantasy playoffs. The team he played against was the Patriots. He had over 160 total yds and a td. I think BBs opinion of Morris's skill and how often he plans on using him might be different than the perception in the fantasy football world. He did average over 4yds a carry in Miami as R.Browns back up

The Pats are not committed to a RBBC. RBBC is not their philosophy although they will use it if circumstances dictate it. When they have had a solid back, be it Antowain in 01 or Dillon in 04 they have run them hard. If Maroney is what many think he is (as well as being healthy) he will definetly be the primary ballcarrier although both Faulk and Morris will be contributors. As for Morris I see him in a role that's about halfway between Patrick Pass (i.e jack of all trades including being an important member of special teams) and Dillon last year (he will probably be #2 in carries for the team). IMO the only way Morris really hurts a healthy Maroney's value is if he takes over Dillon's role as the goalline back. There hasn't been any mention of who will handle those duties so right now that area is all speculation.

 

[ThePittbully]

I have Maroney on my team, and I took Morris in our rookie/vet draft incase Maroney comes into the season still nursing his shoulder or gets banged up during the season. But other then that I dont see Morris taking any carries other then spelling

 

[LBH]

Morris is a backup RB. He will get a few carries, but I think it's a BIG stretch to think he will cut into Maroney's carries, unless Maroney is hurt. I also think Kevin Faulk will be on the field more than Morris because he is a great receiver out of the backfield. I don't see any way Morris gets double figure carries unless by injury.

I think its all speculation by Maroney fantasy owners that he will be getting 20+ carries a game. I havent read anything from the coaching staff to suggest they want to get away from a rbbc. I dont think its unrealistic to believe that they will use Morris in the same way they used Dillon. If im wrong please post a quote from BB saying he wants to make Maroney a work horse back. Also Morris had his best game last year in week 1 of the fantasy playoffs. The team he played against was the Patriots. He had over 160 total yds and a td. I think BBs opinion of Morris's skill and how often he plans on using him might be different than the perception in the fantasy football world. He did average over 4yds a carry in Miami as R.Browns back up

The Pats are not committed to a RBBC. RBBC is not their philosophy although they will use it if circumstances dictate it. When they have had a solid back, be it Antowain in 01 or Dillon in 04 they have run them hard. If Maroney is what many think he is (as well as being healthy) he will definetly be the primary ballcarrier although both Faulk and Morris will be contributors. As for Morris I see him in a role that's about halfway between Patrick Pass (i.e jack of all trades including being an important member of special teams) and Dillon last year (he will probably be #2 in carries for the team). IMO the only way Morris really hurts a healthy Maroney's value is if he takes over Dillon's role as the goalline back. There hasn't been any mention of who will handle those duties so right now that area is all speculation.

I cant say I disagree. Im not buying Maroneys durability yet. He shared time all through college and shared time with Dillon last year. I think hes has the talent but think that its possible that if he doesnt get a lot of help in the running game, he could wear down quickly. I think if anyone is drafting Maroney early, it would be a big mistake not to get Morris later. I really think Morris could be a sneaky daft pick for large sized rosters in the late rds of drafts this year. I think everything concerning the NE run game and how far over 50% of the carries Maroney will get this year is speculation. I dont think Dillon was any better talent wise than Morris last year, and I know Dillon was getting a bigger load later because Maroney was looking hesitant hitting the holes between the tackles due to his bad shoulder which i guess comes back to my concerns about his durability

 

[Boston]

Morris is a backup RB. He will get a few carries, but I think it's a BIG stretch to think he will cut into Maroney's carries, unless Maroney is hurt. I also think Kevin Faulk will be on the field more than Morris because he is a great receiver out of the backfield. I don't see any way Morris gets double figure carries unless by injury.

I think its all speculation by Maroney fantasy owners that he will be getting 20+ carries a game. I havent read anything from the coaching staff to suggest they want to get away from a rbbc. I dont think its unrealistic to believe that they will use Morris in the same way they used Dillon. If im wrong please post a quote from BB saying he wants to make Maroney a work horse back. Also Morris had his best game last year in week 1 of the fantasy playoffs. The team he played against was the Patriots. He had over 160 total yds and a td. I think BBs opinion of Morris's skill and how often he plans on using him might be different than the perception in the fantasy football world. He did average over 4yds a carry in Miami as R.Browns back up

The Pats are not committed to a RBBC. RBBC is not their philosophy although they will use it if circumstances dictate it. When they have had a solid back, be it Antowain in 01 or Dillon in 04 they have run them hard. If Maroney is what many think he is (as well as being healthy) he will definetly be the primary ballcarrier although both Faulk and Morris will be contributors. As for Morris I see him in a role that's about halfway between Patrick Pass (i.e jack of all trades including being an important member of special teams) and Dillon last year (he will probably be #2 in carries for the team). IMO the only way Morris really hurts a healthy Maroney's value is if he takes over Dillon's role as the goalline back. There hasn't been any mention of who will handle those duties so right now that area is all speculation.

I cant say I disagree. Im not buying Maroneys durability yet. He shared time all through college and shared time with Dillon last year. I think hes has the talent but think that its possible that if he doesnt get a lot of help in the running game, he could wear down quickly. I think if anyone is drafting Maroney early, it would be a big mistake not to get Morris later. I really think Morris could be a sneaky daft pick for large sized rosters in the late rds of drafts this year. I think everything concerning the NE run game and how far over 50% of the carries Maroney will get this year is speculation. I dont think Dillon was any better talent wise than Morris last year, and I know Dillon was getting a bigger load later because Maroney was looking hesitant hitting the holes between the tackles due to his bad shoulder which i guess comes back to my concerns about his durability

We really don't disagree. My basic point is this situation is based on Maroney and not Morris. If Maroney can handle a legit #1 workload than he will be the primary ballcarrier. If not (and there are legit concerns with his injuries/durability) than Morris and/or Faulk (don't forget him) will have an increased workload. If Maroney were to go down than I think you'd see a RBBC with those two and a little Heath Evans mixed in. I'm not going to include Hairston in the mix until he shows something in preseason. I do disagree about Morris v Dillon. Dillon ran well last year. He was not a stud but he was very productive for the whole season (4.1 ypc and 13 TDs). I have my doubts whether Morris can run like that for a full 16. He's 30 years old and has had over 100 carries once in his career. In a pinch I have a lot of confidence in him but I'm not sure he can handle a big workload in a productive manner for a full 16.

 

[LBH]

Morris is a backup RB. He will get a few carries, but I think it's a BIG stretch to think he will cut into Maroney's carries, unless Maroney is hurt. I also think Kevin Faulk will be on the field more than Morris because he is a great receiver out of the backfield. I don't see any way Morris gets double figure carries unless by injury.

I think its all speculation by Maroney fantasy owners that he will be getting 20+ carries a game. I havent read anything from the coaching staff to suggest they want to get away from a rbbc. I dont think its unrealistic to believe that they will use Morris in the same way they used Dillon. If im wrong please post a quote from BB saying he wants to make Maroney a work horse back. Also Morris had his best game last year in week 1 of the fantasy playoffs. The team he played against was the Patriots. He had over 160 total yds and a td. I think BBs opinion of Morris's skill and how often he plans on using him might be different than the perception in the fantasy football world. He did average over 4yds a carry in Miami as R.Browns back up

The Pats are not committed to a RBBC. RBBC is not their philosophy although they will use it if circumstances dictate it. When they have had a solid back, be it Antowain in 01 or Dillon in 04 they have run them hard. If Maroney is what many think he is (as well as being healthy) he will definetly be the primary ballcarrier although both Faulk and Morris will be contributors. As for Morris I see him in a role that's about halfway between Patrick Pass (i.e jack of all trades including being an important member of special teams) and Dillon last year (he will probably be #2 in carries for the team). IMO the only way Morris really hurts a healthy Maroney's value is if he takes over Dillon's role as the goalline back. There hasn't been any mention of who will handle those duties so right now that area is all speculation.

I cant say I disagree. Im not buying Maroneys durability yet. He shared time all through college and shared time with Dillon last year. I think hes has the talent but think that its possible that if he doesnt get a lot of help in the running game, he could wear down quickly. I think if anyone is drafting Maroney early, it would be a big mistake not to get Morris later. I really think Morris could be a sneaky daft pick for large sized rosters in the late rds of drafts this year. I think everything concerning the NE run game and how far over 50% of the carries Maroney will get this year is speculation. I dont think Dillon was any better talent wise than Morris last year, and I know Dillon was getting a bigger load later because Maroney was looking hesitant hitting the holes between the tackles due to his bad shoulder which i guess comes back to my concerns about his durability

I do disagree about Morris v Dillon. Dillon ran well last year. He was not a stud but he was very productive for the whole season (4.1 ypc and 13 TDs). I have my doubts whether Morris can run like that for a full 16. He's 30 years old and has had over 100 carries once in his career. In a pinch I have a lot of confidence in him but I'm not sure he can handle a big workload in a productive manner for a full 16.

How much of Dillons production was due to the fact he was on a solid team playing behind a good OL and QB, and how much was because he still has a lot of skill? I cant shake that image of Dillon running through a huge hole in the Jets defense and running for the slowest 50yd run ive ever seen by a RB. I dont think I really disagree with anything youve said, but Im optimistic about Morris's ability to handle half the load for 16 games the same way Dillon did. I see the fact hes never had more than 100 carries in a season at 30 years old as a positive. Anyway my only point is that Morris could be a nice sleeper in the very late rds of drafts. Even if he isnt in a full rbbc(which is still speculation that it wont be), I have to believe that any Maroney owner that doesnt have him would want to trade for him. I mean Morris did have enough in the tank to run over NE for 160 total yds last year while filling in for an injured Brown

 

[Cecil Lammey]

We interviewed Mike Reiss from the Boston Globe and asked him this exact question. I am editing the show right now, and will post it to Itunes tonight.

 

[LBH]

Hes looked pretty good to me so far, and a guy I would definitely want as a Maroney owner

 

[Gopher State]

Morris has been one of the better WW pick ups this year, seems to be good for at least 50 yards and a TD a week.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Morris has been one of the better WW pick ups this year, seems to be good for at least 50 yards and a TD a week.

i am a jackson owner. if i miss b leonard on waivers (which is likely), i will try to get morris. he seems to be involved enough weekly to be a decent filler.

 

[ceo3west]

Morris is a backup RB. He will get a few carries, but I think it's a BIG stretch to think he will cut into Maroney's carries, unless Maroney is hurt. I also think Kevin Faulk will be on the field more than Morris because he is a great receiver out of the backfield. I don't see any way Morris gets double figure carries unless by injury.

Ouch.

 

[TommyGilmore]

Morris has been one of the better WW pick ups this year, seems to be good for at least 50 yards and a TD a week.

i am a jackson owner. if i miss b leonard on waivers (which is likely), i will try to get morris. he seems to be involved enough weekly to be a decent filler.

Can't believe he's still available in most leagues. He was the #23 RB in my league after 2 weeks, and he's currently sitting at #27. That makes him roster-worthy in just about every FF format.Are Cedric Benson, Ahman Green, Reggie Bush, Fred Taylor, and Julius Jones still on the waiver wire? Because Morris has outscored them all.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Morris has been one of the better WW pick ups this year, seems to be good for at least 50 yards and a TD a week.

i am a jackson owner. if i miss b leonard on waivers (which is likely), i will try to get morris. he seems to be involved enough weekly to be a decent filler.

Can't believe he's still available in most leagues. He was the #23 RB in my league after 2 weeks, and he's currently sitting at #27. That makes him roster-worthy in just about every FF format.

okay, i just counted and he's #22 in that league. we have a couple of flex positions, one that allows a qb, so rb's aren't gobbled up as fast as in some leagues. though with all of the recent injuries, he'll probably be rostered this week.

 

[red]

We interviewed Mike Reiss from the Boston Globe and asked him this exact question. I am editing the show right now, and will post it to Itunes tonight.

hey cecil-could you post a synopsis of reiss' opinion on this...don't have time blah blah blah to download it from itunes:bagoverhead:

 

[gump]

Just dropped JJ for him.

For a spot-starter on bye weeks...I like the facts that Morris is getting GL carries and the Pats are blowing everyone out.

The big question for me is how involved he is when the Pats are in a tough, close game.

 

[nflguru]

Just dropped JJ for him.For a spot-starter on bye weeks...I like the facts that Morris is getting GL carries and the Pats are blowing everyone out.The big question for me is how involved he is when the Pats are in a tough, close game.

This is a good point, I added him before last weeks games but haven't started him yet (pending westbrook, he may get the nod this week..) I agree, if the pats get up on teams they will use him and rest/keep maroney healthy.. This could be pretty often considering how well they are playing..I also agree - tough games he may not get you points unless its near the goal-line..

 

[red]

bump...ant isights from cecil's interview

 

[LBH]

Just dropped JJ for him.For a spot-starter on bye weeks...I like the facts that Morris is getting GL carries and the Pats are blowing everyone out.The big question for me is how involved he is when the Pats are in a tough, close game.

This is a good point, I added him before last weeks games but haven't started him yet (pending westbrook, he may get the nod this week..) I agree, if the pats get up on teams they will use him and rest/keep maroney healthy.. This could be pretty often considering how well they are playing..I also agree - tough games he may not get you points unless its near the goal-line..

I dont know about that. Hes looked just as good as Maroney to me so far. I think that BB never intended for Maroney to carry the load when the Pats aquired Morris, and just wanted a replacement for Dillon.