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farfromforgotten
Footballguy
All is well and dandy so far but who is going to protect these QB’s?
Wingnut
Footballguy
Well, free agency is like 11 hours old and there's still the draft. I think they will address their obvious needs.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Jimmy Ward expected to sign with Houston and reunite with DeMeco Ryans. I guess he wants money over a ring.
Ward (2014) had the longest unbroken tenure w/ the 49ers (Dontae Johnson was part of the same draft class). Now that honor goes to:
Arik Armstead (2015)
Kyle Juszczyk (2017)
George Kittle (2017)
Robbie Gould (2017) *
*tenure hangs in the balance
Ward (2014) had the longest unbroken tenure w/ the 49ers (Dontae Johnson was part of the same draft class). Now that honor goes to:
Arik Armstead (2015)
Kyle Juszczyk (2017)
George Kittle (2017)
Robbie Gould (2017) *
*tenure hangs in the balance
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I like the signings for sure but the two places we were weakest Oline and DB are actually much weaker right now
Much weaker? Disagree. At this point anyway.
Mooney Ward just restructured to add about 10 million in cap space. Hoping that’s a move to resign Moseley. I like Jimmie Ward and he was a solid player but not someone who is going to move the needle much. Would rather use the money to resign Moseley and put Lenior back in the slot. Glinch was OK but not a huge loss IMO. He was a big part of the pass protection issues.
Glinch was a great run blocker however and his pass blocking skills were getting better (according to PFF anyway)
Ward is a solid vet and he's gone and there isn't anything to replace at this point
I think slot corner is a position that a decent team should be able to fill with a lower cost player. My concern with that sequence of moves is that I'm not convinced Gipson is all that good. I'm sure he was cheaper than Ward (though Ward wasn't expensive, $7.5m/year), but it seems like a risk counting on Gipson to be a league average or better starter for 17 games next year.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Darnold will sign a deal with a base value of $4.5 million, including $3.5 million guaranteed.
By comparison, third-year quarterback Trey Lance will count $9.3 million against the salary cap, while second-year quarterback Brock Purdy will count just $889,253.
www.49erswebzone.com
By comparison, third-year quarterback Trey Lance will count $9.3 million against the salary cap, while second-year quarterback Brock Purdy will count just $889,253.
QB Sam Darnold's 49ers contract valued at $4.5 million
On Monday, the San Francisco 49ers agreed to a one-year deal with veteran quarterback Sam Darnold. On Tuesday, Tom Pelissero of NFL Media shared the contract details. Darnold will sign a deal with a
www.49erswebzone.com
As far as Ward, if Moseley comes back, that basically is his replacement because Lenoir goes to the slot where he looked pretty good last year before he had to move outside. Gibson resigned to play safety. Their secondary could be better than last year actually.
I saw the PFF scores improved for Glinch in pass protection, but just seemed he got beat a lot. Didn’t seem to match up. Not that he was a bad player but i think he can be replaced a lot cheaper without much of or any drop off.
Yeah. My first reaction was kind of WTF, but looked at last years performance and it was actually pretty good overall. Obviously has talent so a good low cost signing with upside.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Hargrave is 30 and the Eagles already have his replacement on the roster in Jordan Davis.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Fun fact, if you subtract all of Javon Hargraves' sacks last year, the Eagles finish #1 in sacks
You guys sound like a scorned lover...
Wingnut
Footballguy
Congrats, I guess?
Wingnut
Footballguy
Hopefully we will never find out.
A bit of perspective - we are signing Darnold as our QB3. The Vikings just signed Nick Mullens as their QB2.
The Darnold signing is a win any you look at it.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Good luck, he's a great pass rusher!
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
You're team is the one paying the 30 year old defensive tackle based on past performance not the Eagles. These guys fall off the cliff fast. Congrats, I guess?
I'm a little torn on Darnold. $4.5m is a lot for a 3rd string QB. On the other hand, we've seen the value of a 3rd QB. I was listening to Candlestick Chronicles this morning and Biderman thought Darnold was being brought in to have a legit competition with Lance to be the primary backup to Purdy. I think that's very possible; Lance is effectively on a 1 year deal himself this year.
Wingnut
Footballguy
I'm sure that's your hope, but hes a presence in the middle we lacked last season, so it's a great add for us. His sacks have increased every year the past 4 years, so I don't see him falling off that cliff you mentioned, and now that he's with the best D Line coach in the league, I can see him being solid as long as he's a 49er.
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Wingnut
Footballguy
I read last week that they were hoping to sign a decent vet for less than 5 million, and Kyle has openly been a Darnold fan for years. He's young, has the tools to be good, and Wilks knows him very well from Carolina, so Im sure there was some insude info being shared to help with the decision.
Paying a QB3 4.5 million sounds like a lot, but when Purdy makes around 900k, you still have a dirt cheap QB room, and if Darnold ends up QB2, it will seem like a bargain.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Another one locked down!
The 49ers are re-signing center Jake Brendel on a four-year deal, per source. Jets offered more but Brendel wanted to stay with San Fran.
www.49erswebzone.com
The 49ers are re-signing center Jake Brendel on a four-year deal, per source. Jets offered more but Brendel wanted to stay with San Fran.
49ers re-sign center Jake Brendel to a 4-year deal
The San Francisco 49ers are retaining their center, Jake Brendel, after the offensive lineman attracted some interest in the free-agency market. NFL Media's...
www.49erswebzone.com
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Adjust for strength of schedule and it's 27th.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Damn that's expensive.
Terpman22
Footballguy
So the Niners overpaid for a guy that only ate against cupcake teams. Sounds good to me.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Didn't the Niners end up with the easiest schedule in the league last year? Now adjust Bosa's numbers, I guess.
Terpman22
Footballguy
No, they ended up getting smacked by the Eagles when they thought they were going to the Super Bowl with the last pick of the draft piloting the whole thing.
Oh waiiiiit....Which is why they are now obsessed with us, I guess. Much like Minnesota was when we curb stomped them in the same game and they followed us around for years.
They will get their chance this year with Trey Sam Purdy at QB when they come to the Linq to try and redeem themselves.
Wingnut
Footballguy
The F is all this nonsense? Nobody here is posting in the Eagles thread, don't come in here and start shiz.
farfromforgotten
Footballguy
Right. The last pick of the draft who came back in with one arm in a game that was 7-7 at the time. Total domination.
Congrats on losing the Super Bowl I guess?
Eagles had the easiest, Niners the second easiest per Football Outsiders.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Mosely....gone. To the Lions.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Lombardi:
What we learned at Combine:
The 49ers are bullish on Charvarius Ward and Deommodore Lenoir as their starting CB duo. They would've been happy to take Emmanuel Moseley back as depth coming off the ACL, but that would've required a lower price.
SF must still add at the position.
What we learned at Combine:
The 49ers are bullish on Charvarius Ward and Deommodore Lenoir as their starting CB duo. They would've been happy to take Emmanuel Moseley back as depth coming off the ACL, but that would've required a lower price.
SF must still add at the position.
Assuming he is 100 percent as stated, 6 million is pretty cheap IMO. Really good player.
Yup, just seems ambitious to me to assume he’s 100%.
Wingnut
Footballguy
49ERS FREE AGENCY
Gains
DT Javon Hargrave, PHI
QB Sam Darnold, CAR
Losses
QB Garoppolo, LV (expected)
RT McGlinchey, DEN (expected)
S J.Ward, HOU (expected)
CB Moseley, DET (surprise)
LB Al-Shaair, TEN (expected)
DT Ridgeway, HOU (not worth 4 mil)
Re-signed
C Brendel
S Gipson
DT Givens
OT McKivitz
WR Jennings
LS Pepper
Gains
DT Javon Hargrave, PHI
QB Sam Darnold, CAR
Losses
QB Garoppolo, LV (expected)
RT McGlinchey, DEN (expected)
S J.Ward, HOU (expected)
CB Moseley, DET (surprise)
LB Al-Shaair, TEN (expected)
DT Ridgeway, HOU (not worth 4 mil)
Re-signed
C Brendel
S Gipson
DT Givens
OT McKivitz
WR Jennings
LS Pepper
Wingnut
Footballguy
#49ers remaining UFAs:
K Robbie Gould
DE Samson Ebukam
DE Charles Omenihu
OL Daniel Brunskill
DE Jordan Willis
DL Kerry Hyder
TE Tyler Kroft
TE Ross Dwelley
DT T.Y. McGill
S Tarvarius Moore
CB Jason Verrett
QB Josh Johnson
DL Maurice Hurst
CB Dontae Johnson
TE Jordan Matthews
K Robbie Gould
DE Samson Ebukam
DE Charles Omenihu
OL Daniel Brunskill
DE Jordan Willis
DL Kerry Hyder
TE Tyler Kroft
TE Ross Dwelley
DT T.Y. McGill
S Tarvarius Moore
CB Jason Verrett
QB Josh Johnson
DL Maurice Hurst
CB Dontae Johnson
TE Jordan Matthews
Wingnut
Footballguy
Robbie Gould may not be leaving after all?
The 49ers are in contract negotiations with Robbie Gould, per Papa & Lund (KNBR Radio)
The 49ers are in contract negotiations with Robbie Gould, per Papa & Lund (KNBR Radio)
Wingnut
Footballguy
Albert Breer on Sam Darnold/49ers:
It's saying 'we're going to see what happens with Trey Lance, but we're going to make sure to cover out butts in the back end and get another guy in here ready to compete to get us through till Brock Purdy is back. Whether Darnold emerges or Lance emerges over the next 6 months, we've given ourselves another viable option until Brock Purdy comes back."
Breer's comments seem to indicate that the 49ers view this more like a backup quarterback competition, unless Darnold/Lance WOW them.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
I think Al-Shaair was very underrated. We knew he was leaving, but I think that’s a big loss.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
With a QB
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