Santana Moss: Value Going Forward (1 Viewer)

[gheemony]

What is Moss' value going forward? It appears that his groin strain will keep him out of week 5. The team signed McCardell, which is bad sign about Moss' health. Is this a buy low opportunity (ability to get a WR2 for the playoff stretch)? Or is the groin strain something that will linger and bother him the rest of the year? Has Moss been hurt in previous years?

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[Gopher State]

Even when he was wasn't hurt this year, his value seemed to slip as Washington seems to be a run first team and protect Campbell, I have him in my 10 team redraft league, and question if he is worth keeping with guys like Engram, James Jones, out scoring him on the WW, now add the injury is he worth keeping in smaller leagues? I think his ceiling is about 700 yards and 5 td's based on him only missing two games, if he misses more I don't know.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Santana Moss - WR - WAS

Santana Moss (groin) tried to do some drills Wednesday, but seemed hobbled before calling it a day just a few minutes into the workout.

Moss is unlikely to face the Lions at this point, which is disappointing in such a fine matchup. It's unknown who his replacement in the lineup will be. | 10/3/2007 2:43:00 PM

Source: Washington Post

 

[Peak]

Santana Moss - WR - WAS Santana Moss (groin) tried to do some drills Wednesday, but seemed hobbled before calling it a day just a few minutes into the workout. Moss is unlikely to face the Lions at this point, which is disappointing in such a fine matchup. It's unknown who his replacement in the lineup will be. | 10/3/2007 2:43:00 PM Source: Washington Post

I'm ready to drop this guy and pick up some WW depth. This guy is a waste of roster space. But you know that once he's dropped he'll heal and play lights out. Murphy's Law.

 

[Gopher State]

Santana Moss - WR - WAS Santana Moss (groin) tried to do some drills Wednesday, but seemed hobbled before calling it a day just a few minutes into the workout. Moss is unlikely to face the Lions at this point, which is disappointing in such a fine matchup. It's unknown who his replacement in the lineup will be. | 10/3/2007 2:43:00 PM Source: Washington Post

I'm ready to drop this guy and pick up some WW depth. This guy is a waste of roster space. But you know that once he's dropped he'll heal and play lights out. Murphy's Law.

I have decided to drop him and pick someone who at least plays, you don't win with FF players on your bench.

 

[Texican]

Santana Moss - WR - WAS Santana Moss (groin) tried to do some drills Wednesday, but seemed hobbled before calling it a day just a few minutes into the workout. Moss is unlikely to face the Lions at this point, which is disappointing in such a fine matchup. It's unknown who his replacement in the lineup will be. | 10/3/2007 2:43:00 PM Source: Washington Post

I'm ready to drop this guy and pick up some WW depth. This guy is a waste of roster space. But you know that once he's dropped he'll heal and play lights out. Murphy's Law.

I would definitely NOT drop him. He is an explosive player and will put up good numbers when he plays. It sucks to sit on him now, but he will pay off. I have had him in the past (even dumped him) and right when you give up on him is when he will light it up.

 

[Ralph Furley]

Santana Moss - WR - WAS Santana Moss (groin) tried to do some drills Wednesday, but seemed hobbled before calling it a day just a few minutes into the workout. Moss is unlikely to face the Lions at this point, which is disappointing in such a fine matchup. It's unknown who his replacement in the lineup will be. | 10/3/2007 2:43:00 PM Source: Washington Post

I'm ready to drop this guy and pick up some WW depth. This guy is a waste of roster space. But you know that once he's dropped he'll heal and play lights out. Murphy's Law.

I have decided to drop him and pick someone who at least plays, you don't win with FF players on your bench.

You also do not win making panic moves either. Unless you have a very small roster or play in an 8 team league or less, I don't understand why one would cut a #2 wr before week 5. These types of impulse decisions are the ones that always come back to haunt you.

 

[thayman]

McCardell is defintily a insurance policy against Moss being hurt. But it's also to keep Lloyd off the field no matter what. If Caldwell doesn't work out too well, then they have McCardell to fall back on. Pretty much what Snyder likes to do when there seems to be a problem, is bring in a couple of guys and hope one works out.

 

[JAMMIN]

If he is hurt I think Cooley is a guy to target in trades or the WW. He probably be back in a few weeks so I would not drop him. Who are you going to pick up that has the explosiveness of Santana?

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

If he is hurt I think Cooley is a guy to target in trades or the WW. He probably be back in a few weeks so I would not drop him. Who are you going to pick up that has the explosiveness of Santana?

randel-el

 

[JAMMIN]

Are we talking about as a kick returner or a WR? Randle El had a wopping 35 yds last week and 40 the week prior. I prefer Santana over Randle El.

 

[Chunky Soup]

He still has great value in all leagues, especially dynasty. Young QB with a gun coming on strong, and Moss played very well in the first few games. Injury isn't that serious, I wouldn't be sweating this one bit.

Fact: In his first 3 games, Moss saw 25 targets go his way. That's a lot more than last year he saw 100 through 14 games. 25 through 3 games translates to 133 targets. He had 134 in 2005 when he was the number 3 WR. He is still in for a nice year.

 

[Diamond One]

Santana Moss - WR - WAS Santana Moss (groin) tried to do some drills Wednesday, but seemed hobbled before calling it a day just a few minutes into the workout. Moss is unlikely to face the Lions at this point, which is disappointing in such a fine matchup. It's unknown who his replacement in the lineup will be. | 10/3/2007 2:43:00 PM Source: Washington Post :whoosh:

I'm ready to drop this guy and pick up some WW depth. This guy is a waste of roster space. But you know that once he's dropped he'll heal and play lights out. Murphy's Law.

I have decided to drop him and pick someone who at least plays, you don't win with FF players on your bench.

You also do not win making panic moves either. Unless you have a very small roster or play in an 8 team league or less, I don't understand why one would cut a #2 wr before week 5. These types of impulse decisions are the ones that always come back to haunt you.

Well said. Kinda like the whole Lee Evans mess. I say hold here & be patient (yes, I have a deep bench).

 

[dgreen]

A couple things I heard on the radio regarding Moss:

1. He's not practicing today.

2. The team will leave it up to him whether he plays Sunday or not.

 

[zamboni]

I think Moss' value is going backwards, not forwards. He's had a few big years, but he's always been very up and down. Not until Campbell can consistently deliver the ball accurately down the field will Moss likely become a consistent performer.

 

[The Jerk]

I think Moss' value is going backwards, not forwards. He's had a few big years, but he's always been very up and down. Not until Campbell can consistently deliver the ball accurately down the field will Moss likely become a consistent performer.

I'm onboard with zamboni here.It's different if it's dynasty, but if you're focusing on 2007, Moss has done very little and I for one do not expect him to suddenly get healthy and see tons of targets and score a TD every other week. Six out of nine games with Campbell as his quarterback have seen Moss have three or fewer receptions, although one of those games included a TD and another saw 82 yards in receptions. Add injury to the mix and if you're 2-2 or worse, you may not have the luxury of hoping Moss gets both healthy and productive, because even if it happens, it may happen too late. He's always been hit or miss because of his penchant for the deep catch.Here's some interesting stats on Santana Moss: From 2004-2007, he has scored 20 TDs. Exactly three of them have been from less than 10 yards, one each season in 2004, 2005, and 2006.Many people have done statistical studies on how consistency from one season to the next is itself inconsistent. The one possible exception to a rule I very much agree with may be Santana Moss. He will have a few really big games each season, but he will also have nearly twice as many very quiet games.

 

[Texican]

Oct 4

Ryan O'Halloran, of The Washington Times, reports Washington Redskins WR Santana Moss (groin) did not participate in practice Thursday, Oct. 4.

 

[kal-el]

I don't like the combination of a speed receiver and a groin injury. If there are reasonable alternatives, I'd drop him.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Moss hopes to practice Friday

Santana Moss, WR WAS

News: Running back Clinton Portis practiced on his sore knee and is ready to go. Receiver Santana Moss did a lot of sprints and little else. The health of two important parts of the Washington Redskins offense took different paths Thursday as the team prepared for Sunday's game against the Detroit Lions. Moss is dealing with a groin injury that could loom larger for the Redskins than Portis' ailment. If Portis can't play, at least the team can turn to Ladell Betts, who rushed for more than 1,100 yards last year. If Moss doesn't go, the possible options include James Thrash, Reche Caldwell, Keenan McCardell and Brandon Lloyd -- none of whom has a catch this year.

Analysis: Head coach Joe Gibbs said he will trust Moss for an honest assessment on whether the receiver can play. However, the coach also said that Friday, when the team has its last significant practice of the week, will be a "drop-dead day" for Moss to get on the field and show some progress. Moss seemed to agree. "I did more (Thursday)," Moss said. "But until I really, really, really get out there and try to make a hard plant or run a route at full speed -- then I'll know more." Continue to monitor Moss' progress leading up to Sunday. If he plays, consider him a solid No. 2 Fantasy WR against a weak Lions secondary.