I hope you are wrong. Would be nice to see him fall to the niners in the 2nd round.![]()
As long as he doesn't run above 4.5 he is probably in the running for 1st WR off the board. I've seen him make a lot of great catches over the years.
I'm hoping the Niners get S. Moss or C. Jackson in the 2nd.I hope you are wrong. Would be nice to see him fall to the niners in the 2nd round.![]()
As long as he doesn't run above 4.5 he is probably in the running for 1st WR off the board. I've seen him make a lot of great catches over the years.
CJ's 4.32 at the Combine all but sealed his fate as a mid 1st rounder at worst. The only thing he's wondering is whether he'll be the 1st or 2nd WR off the board IMHO. Moss could, and should, be there for the 49ers in the top of the 2nd though.I'm hoping the Niners get S. Moss or C. Jackson in the 2nd.I hope you are wrong. Would be nice to see him fall to the niners in the 2nd round.![]()
As long as he doesn't run above 4.5 he is probably in the running for 1st WR off the board. I've seen him make a lot of great catches over the years.
Very true Jason,CJ's 4.32 at the Combine all but sealed his fate as a mid 1st rounder at worst. The only thing he's wondering is whether he'll be the 1st or 2nd WR off the board IMHO. Moss could, and should, be there for the 49ers in the top of the 2nd though.I'm hoping the Niners get S. Moss or C. Jackson in the 2nd.I hope you are wrong. Would be nice to see him fall to the niners in the 2nd round.![]()
As long as he doesn't run above 4.5 he is probably in the running for 1st WR off the board. I've seen him make a lot of great catches over the years.![]()
Hawk is a such a beast. Lost in the Chad Jackson/Vernon Davis hype was Hawk's amazing workout, apparently one of the best all around workouts in the history of the combine according to some. His quickness numbers were elite for a RUNNING BACK.Just read over at gbnreport that Hawk ran in the 4.4-4.5 range. No word yet on SHolmes
Hawk is a freak. If someone drafts Vince Young before Hawk, Super Mario, Vernon Davis, Ngata or even Huff they will be kicking themselves. I almost think they should be going before any of the QB's.Hawk is a such a beast. Lost in the Chad Jackson/Vernon Davis hype was Hawk's amazing workout, apparently one of the best all around workouts in the history of the combine according to some. His quickness numbers were elite for a RUNNING BACK.Just read over at gbnreport that Hawk ran in the 4.4-4.5 range. No word yet on SHolmes
Moving up into the box on the defensive side of the ball, Ohio State's Mike Kudla once again snagged the attention of DeCosta. Having already made a name for himself by tying the Combine bench press record of 45 reps at 225 pounds, Kudla worked out exceptionally well on the field and even gained a comparison to a current Ravens player.
"Some teams are looking at him as a possible outside linebacker, defensive end/defensive tackle. I compare him to Jarret Johnson of the Ravens from a versatility standpoint, and I think he helped himself quite a bit [at the Combine]."
One of Kudla's teammates on that Buckeye defense is linebacker A.J. Hawk, who was also on display at the Scouting Combine.
One of the top prospects in the country all year, Hawk did nothing but cement his status as one of the best overall players available in the upcoming draft.
He was the complete package when testing, running a 4.5 40-yard dash, jumping over 40 inches in the vertical testing, and showing off outstanding feet, quickness, agility and explosiveness.
"Obviously A.J. Hawk had an unbelievable workout," said DeCosta. "He's the premier guy [at linebacker]. He separated himself from the rest of the pack. He probably won't be there when we have the chance to pick, but he would be an excellent pick for the Baltimore Ravens."
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Wow! You can't just can't wait to bash Young even when thread has nothing to do with him. Did he ##### slap your father or something? I don't know who's the bigger Young stalker you or matuski.Hawk is a freak. If someone drafts Vince Young before Hawk, Super Mario, Vernon Davis, Ngata or even Huff they will be kicking themselves. I almost think they should be going before any of the QB's.Hawk is a such a beast. Lost in the Chad Jackson/Vernon Davis hype was Hawk's amazing workout, apparently one of the best all around workouts in the history of the combine according to some. His quickness numbers were elite for a RUNNING BACK.Just read over at gbnreport that Hawk ran in the 4.4-4.5 range. No word yet on SHolmes
Based on the Diggs release, I almost believe it has to be Hawk now doesn't it? They dont' have many linebackers left, and I think Derek Smith resigned with the 49ers, and that was one of their LB targets.Hawk or Mario... Could be a tough choice for Ted Thompson, but as long as it is one of those two I'll be loving it.
VY is a MUCH bigger risk than those guys. I think it's ridiculous to pay Young a huge amount of guaranteed money just to wait 2 or 3 years for him to develop into an NFL QB. Believe it or not, I actually do think he has a good chance of making it in the league, but it will take time and that's why I'm amazed that teams would consider drafting him that early.Wow! You can't just can't wait to bash Young even when thread has nothing to do with him. Did he ##### slap your father or something? I don't know who's the bigger Young stalker you or matuski.Hawk is a freak. If someone drafts Vince Young before Hawk, Super Mario, Vernon Davis, Ngata or even Huff they will be kicking themselves. I almost think they should be going before any of the QB's.Hawk is a such a beast. Lost in the Chad Jackson/Vernon Davis hype was Hawk's amazing workout, apparently one of the best all around workouts in the history of the combine according to some. His quickness numbers were elite for a RUNNING BACK.Just read over at gbnreport that Hawk ran in the 4.4-4.5 range. No word yet on SHolmes
The vast majority of QBs take 2-3 years to mature. It's very rare that a guy can be thrown into the mix and immediately produce at that position. Your argument is flawed. If you don't like VY or think he'll bust, that's one thing, but to say that he's not worth the risk because it may take 3 years for him to blossom is ludicrous.VY is a MUCH bigger risk than those guys. I think it's ridiculous to pay Young a huge amount of guaranteed money just to wait 2 or 3 years for him to develop into an NFL QB. Believe it or not, I actually do think he has a good chance of making it in the league, but it will take time and that's why I'm amazed that teams would consider drafting him that early.Wow! You can't just can't wait to bash Young even when thread has nothing to do with him. Did he ##### slap your father or something? I don't know who's the bigger Young stalker you or matuski.Hawk is a freak. If someone drafts Vince Young before Hawk, Super Mario, Vernon Davis, Ngata or even Huff they will be kicking themselves. I almost think they should be going before any of the QB's.Hawk is a such a beast. Lost in the Chad Jackson/Vernon Davis hype was Hawk's amazing workout, apparently one of the best all around workouts in the history of the combine according to some. His quickness numbers were elite for a RUNNING BACK.Just read over at gbnreport that Hawk ran in the 4.4-4.5 range. No word yet on SHolmes
I've been singing Kudla's praise for nearly a month now, but I tend to agree. His workouts will always outweigh his ability. IMO, he's this year's poor man's Matt Roth.link:I think Kudla is going to be the kind of starter that a team is always looking to replace. He would be a good backup. His play on the field never matched his gym numbers. Workout warrior.
LOL. Matt Roth was an animal on the field. Him going to a 3-4 wasn't good for him but he still will be an above average starter in the league. What had Kudla ever done ON the field. Amazing athlete but perhaps just a good football player.I've been singing Kudla's praise for nearly a month now, but I tend to agree. His workouts will always outweigh his ability. IMO, he's this year's poor man's Matt Roth.link:I think Kudla is going to be the kind of starter that a team is always looking to replace. He would be a good backup. His play on the field never matched his gym numbers. Workout warrior.
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I like you and your hopesI hope you are wrong. Would be nice to see him fall to the niners in the 2nd round.![]()
As long as he doesn't run above 4.5 he is probably in the running for 1st WR off the board. I've seen him make a lot of great catches over the years.
I'm glad I didn't reference Kudla as a "rich man's Matt Roth".LOL. Matt Roth was an animal on the field. Him going to a 3-4 wasn't good for him but he still will be an above average starter in the league. What had Kudla ever done ON the field. Amazing athlete but perhaps just a good football player.I've been singing Kudla's praise for nearly a month now, but I tend to agree. His workouts will always outweigh his ability. IMO, he's this year's poor man's Matt Roth.link:I think Kudla is going to be the kind of starter that a team is always looking to replace. He would be a good backup. His play on the field never matched his gym numbers. Workout warrior.
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...225698&hl=kudla
I'd still be very happy with that. Just as long as they draft VD in the first roundVery true Jason,CJ's 4.32 at the Combine all but sealed his fate as a mid 1st rounder at worst. The only thing he's wondering is whether he'll be the 1st or 2nd WR off the board IMHO. Moss could, and should, be there for the 49ers in the top of the 2nd though.I'm hoping the Niners get S. Moss or C. Jackson in the 2nd.I hope you are wrong. Would be nice to see him fall to the niners in the 2nd round.![]()
As long as he doesn't run above 4.5 he is probably in the running for 1st WR off the board. I've seen him make a lot of great catches over the years.![]()
, but here's to hoping!
So you want your team to get VD?I'd still be very happy with that. Just as long as they draft VD in the first roundVery true Jason,CJ's 4.32 at the Combine all but sealed his fate as a mid 1st rounder at worst. The only thing he's wondering is whether he'll be the 1st or 2nd WR off the board IMHO. Moss could, and should, be there for the 49ers in the top of the 2nd though.I'm hoping the Niners get S. Moss or C. Jackson in the 2nd.I hope you are wrong. Would be nice to see him fall to the niners in the 2nd round.![]()
As long as he doesn't run above 4.5 he is probably in the running for 1st WR off the board. I've seen him make a lot of great catches over the years.![]()
, but here's to hoping!
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"With the 6th pick in the 2006 NFL draft, Da champion Niners Select the freak out of Maryland"So you want your team to get VD?I'd still be very happy with that. Just as long as they draft VD in the first roundVery true Jason,CJ's 4.32 at the Combine all but sealed his fate as a mid 1st rounder at worst. The only thing he's wondering is whether he'll be the 1st or 2nd WR off the board IMHO. Moss could, and should, be there for the 49ers in the top of the 2nd though.I'm hoping the Niners get S. Moss or C. Jackson in the 2nd.I hope you are wrong. Would be nice to see him fall to the niners in the 2nd round.![]()
As long as he doesn't run above 4.5 he is probably in the running for 1st WR off the board. I've seen him make a lot of great catches over the years.![]()
, but here's to hoping!
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Roth is terribly out of position playing DE in the 3-4, those guys have to be close to 300lbs.. Was he not fast enought to play OLB?LOL. Matt Roth was an animal on the field. Him going to a 3-4 wasn't good for him but he still will be an above average starter in the league. What had Kudla ever done ON the field. Amazing athlete but perhaps just a good football player.I've been singing Kudla's praise for nearly a month now, but I tend to agree. His workouts will always outweigh his ability. IMO, he's this year's poor man's Matt Roth.link:I think Kudla is going to be the kind of starter that a team is always looking to replace. He would be a good backup. His play on the field never matched his gym numbers. Workout warrior.
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...225698&hl=kudla
So, which one of those guys had 10+ sacks 3 years in a row? That would be Matt Roth. Roth was at aroud 270-275 lbs and had a 4.78 40.I'm glad I didn't reference Kudla as a "rich man's Matt Roth".LOL. Matt Roth was an animal on the field. Him going to a 3-4 wasn't good for him but he still will be an above average starter in the league. What had Kudla ever done ON the field. Amazing athlete but perhaps just a good football player.I've been singing Kudla's praise for nearly a month now, but I tend to agree. His workouts will always outweigh his ability. IMO, he's this year's poor man's Matt Roth.link:I think Kudla is going to be the kind of starter that a team is always looking to replace. He would be a good backup. His play on the field never matched his gym numbers. Workout warrior.
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...225698&hl=kudlaMuch like Kudla, Matt Roth's athletic ability (4.7/40, 675lb squat, etc) will outweigh his production in the NFL. Both Roth and Kudla are smallish-DE's and oversized OLB's. More importantly, both players have that "hmmm...I wonder if he was juicing in college" stigma following them.
...and Ron Dayne won the Heisman. What's your point?? Roth played all 16 games last year in the NFL and totaled one sack. This is a preview of coming attractions.So, which one of those guys had 10+ sacks 3 years in a row? That would be Matt Roth. Roth was at aroud 270-275 lbs and had a 4.78 40.I'm glad I didn't reference Kudla as a "rich man's Matt Roth".LOL. Matt Roth was an animal on the field. Him going to a 3-4 wasn't good for him but he still will be an above average starter in the league. What had Kudla ever done ON the field. Amazing athlete but perhaps just a good football player.I've been singing Kudla's praise for nearly a month now, but I tend to agree. His workouts will always outweigh his ability. IMO, he's this year's poor man's Matt Roth.link:I think Kudla is going to be the kind of starter that a team is always looking to replace. He would be a good backup. His play on the field never matched his gym numbers. Workout warrior.
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...225698&hl=kudlaMuch like Kudla, Matt Roth's athletic ability (4.7/40, 675lb squat, etc) will outweigh his production in the NFL. Both Roth and Kudla are smallish-DE's and oversized OLB's. More importantly, both players have that "hmmm...I wonder if he was juicing in college" stigma following them.
Kudla is country boy strong. He has had some unfortunate injuries and an illness. I think he could be one of those late bloomer players that excels in the pros.I'm glad I didn't reference Kudla as a "rich man's Matt Roth".LOL. Matt Roth was an animal on the field. Him going to a 3-4 wasn't good for him but he still will be an above average starter in the league. What had Kudla ever done ON the field. Amazing athlete but perhaps just a good football player.I've been singing Kudla's praise for nearly a month now, but I tend to agree. His workouts will always outweigh his ability. IMO, he's this year's poor man's Matt Roth.link:I think Kudla is going to be the kind of starter that a team is always looking to replace. He would be a good backup. His play on the field never matched his gym numbers. Workout warrior.
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...225698&hl=kudlaMuch like Kudla, Matt Roth's athletic ability (4.7/40, 675lb squat, etc) will outweigh his production in the NFL. Both Roth and Kudla are smallish-DE's and oversized OLB's. More importantly, both players have that "hmmm...I wonder if he was juicing in college" stigma following them.
Another shrimp WR...Holmes weighed 179 pounds -- nine less than he did at the Combine -- and he was timed at 4.34 and 4.36 in the 40.