SA's Return... Any projections? (1 Viewer)

[KiddLattimer]

Any Seattle homers or people privy to such information have a new timetable for Shaun Alexander's return? I have not been able to find any definitive information on the subject.

Also, any projections on how he performs when he returns? Thanks in advance!

(Note: I know there are about 873,765 SA threads out there, and I did use the search function to look for them but the most current one was a ##### fest rather than one that provided actual information. )

 

[DynOmite]

It's sad that half of your post is devoted to your ability to use the search function. The guys around here that live to point out mistakes or say 'Search down?' type comments have too much of an effect on us infrequent posters.

 

[flranger]

You haven't been able to find anything because there isn't anything. His foot bone has a crack. When the crack is gone, he will play. Until the crack is gone he will sit.

I doubt anyone on this board will be able to be more accurate than that. Perhaps a prayer about it would help, since I'm guessing that's the only guy that knows.

BTW, I agree with the last poster that it's a shame you have to qualify your post.

 

[BringItOn]

from Rotoworld:

The Associated Press reports Shaun Alexander (out, foot) will be re-evaluated Monday to determine his availability for Week 10.

Impact: Doctors will check to see if Alexander's foot is still cracked. If it's in one piece, Alexander should be set to play versus St. Louis.

 

[valhallan]

I am also a bit interested in projections once he comes back. He was hardly his usual self before the injury and Morris has been terrible. How much of the running game woes can we attribute to the loss of Hutchinson? How much will the loss of Locklear and return of Womack affect Seattle's production?

I never get to see the Seahawks play (except for this Monday) so I have no way to gauge this year vs. prior years. Can we expect stud production if Shaun returns, or just mediocre numbers?

 

[War Eagle]

Projection:

It's Shaun Alexander, running on fresh legs, plus he's been standing on the sideline itching to play.

I'd project Shaun Alexander #'s. Please see LJ or LT stats for number estimates!

The ONLY question is.....WHEN?

Clear enough?

 

[jim k]

Apologies if this has been posted already, but I found this site interesting regarding soccer players who have had the same broken bone.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/health_and...ess/4283136.stm

 

[War Eagle]

Apologies if this has been posted already, but I found this site interesting regarding soccer players who have had the same broken bone.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/health_and...ess/4283136.stm

6-8 weeks would put him back......... 6th week - Oakland Nov 6th <-------ruled OUT this week

7th week - St Louis Nov 12th

8th week of healing - San Fran Nov 19th <--------I believe this is a realistic expectation for Alexander to get back on the field, because he will have to receive clearance from doctors on the 13th.

So, in summary, EXPECT to plug Amexander back in your lineup on Nov 19th and EXPECT Shaun Alexander #s.

Also, EXPECT Alexander to be on your bench until at least Nov 19th putting up Zippy points.

 

[valhallan]

Projection:It's Shaun Alexander, running on fresh legs, plus he's been standing on the sideline itching to play.I'd project Shaun Alexander #'s. Please see LJ or LT stats for number estimates!The ONLY question is.....WHEN?Clear enough?

He averaged 2.9 ypc before the injury this year. Combine that with the loss of Hutchinson and I don't think we can just assume he'll be his uber-stud self upon return.

 

[KiddLattimer]

Apologies if this has been posted already, but I found this site interesting regarding soccer players who have had the same broken bone.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/health_and...ess/4283136.stm

Great post Jim K, very informative. SA broke the 4th bone correct? That sounds like a more difficult injury to recover from.

 

[fruity pebbles]

I see him putting up Rudi Johnson type numbers when he returns.

 

[War Eagle]

Projection:It's Shaun Alexander, running on fresh legs, plus he's been standing on the sideline itching to play.I'd project Shaun Alexander #'s. Please see LJ or LT stats for number estimates!The ONLY question is.....WHEN?Clear enough?

He averaged 2.9 ypc before the injury this year. Combine that with the loss of Hutchinson and I don't think we can just assume he'll be his uber-stud self upon return.

For the sake of accuracy...1st Alexander broke his foot in the first game of the season2nd YOU asked for projections3rd Why don't YOU post YOUR projections?Are you one of those guys that asks a question and then argues the answer, but never has the answer himself?

 

[valhallan]

Projection:It's Shaun Alexander, running on fresh legs, plus he's been standing on the sideline itching to play.I'd project Shaun Alexander #'s. Please see LJ or LT stats for number estimates!The ONLY question is.....WHEN?Clear enough?

He averaged 2.9 ypc before the injury this year. Combine that with the loss of Hutchinson and I don't think we can just assume he'll be his uber-stud self upon return.

For the sake of accuracy...1st Alexander broke his foot in the first game of the season2nd YOU asked for projections3rd Why don't YOU post YOUR projections?Are you one of those guys that asks a question and then argues the answer, but never has the answer himself?

Woah, what is your problem? You're being very abrasive for no reason.Here's what I posted earlier:

I am also a bit interested in projections once he comes back. He was hardly his usual self before the injury and Morris has been terrible. How much of the running game woes can we attribute to the loss of Hutchinson? How much will the loss of Locklear and return of Womack affect Seattle's production?I never get to see the Seahawks play (except for this Monday) so I have no way to gauge this year vs. prior years. Can we expect stud production if Shaun returns, or just mediocre numbers?

Obviously I do not get to see Seattle play much, so I can't really offer knowledgable projections. You want me to just throw numbers out? That doesn't help anyone.I know this board has been overrun by trolls, but please don't be contribute to the problem.

 

[The Funk Bud]

For the sake of accuracy...1st Alexander broke his foot in the first game of the season2nd YOU asked for projections3rd Why don't YOU post YOUR projections?Are you one of those guys that asks a question and then argues the answer, but never has the answer himself?

 

[KiddLattimer]

I see him putting up Rudi Johnson type numbers when he returns.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

 

[KiddLattimer]

Hey guys, I posted this topic because all the other SA threads went to hell real quick.

Lets keep this thread ON TOPIC please.

 

[fruity pebbles]

I see him putting up Rudi Johnson type numbers when he returns.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

so-so.

 

[War Eagle]

Projection:It's Shaun Alexander, running on fresh legs, plus he's been standing on the sideline itching to play.I'd project Shaun Alexander #'s. Please see LJ or LT stats for number estimates!The ONLY question is.....WHEN?Clear enough?

He averaged 2.9 ypc before the injury this year. Combine that with the loss of Hutchinson and I don't think we can just assume he'll be his uber-stud self upon return.

For the sake of accuracy...1st Alexander broke his foot in the first game of the season2nd YOU asked for projections3rd Why don't YOU post YOUR projections?Are you one of those guys that asks a question and then argues the answer, but never has the answer himself?

Woah, what is your problem? You're being very abrasive for no reason.Here's what I posted earlier:

I am also a bit interested in projections once he comes back. He was hardly his usual self before the injury and Morris has been terrible. How much of the running game woes can we attribute to the loss of Hutchinson? How much will the loss of Locklear and return of Womack affect Seattle's production?I never get to see the Seahawks play (except for this Monday) so I have no way to gauge this year vs. prior years. Can we expect stud production if Shaun returns, or just mediocre numbers?

Obviously I do not get to see Seattle play much, so I can't really offer knowledgable projections. You want me to just throw numbers out? That doesn't help anyone.I know this board has been overrun by trolls, but please don't be contribute to the problem.

Sorry, did you just resort to name calling? Is that part of the "problem"?New projection: 3.5 - 4 ypcIt's called a projection. I didn't throw out some rediculous numbers like 1000 yards and 12 TDs. Just expect Shaun Alexder type numbers but NOT record setting numbers like last year.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Projection:It's Shaun Alexander, running on fresh legs, plus he's been standing on the sideline itching to play.I'd project Shaun Alexander #'s. Please see LJ or LT stats for number estimates!The ONLY question is.....WHEN?Clear enough?

He averaged 2.9 ypc before the injury this year. Combine that with the loss of Hutchinson and I don't think we can just assume he'll be his uber-stud self upon return.

For the sake of accuracy...1st Alexander broke his foot in the first game of the season2nd YOU asked for projections3rd Why don't YOU post YOUR projections?Are you one of those guys that asks a question and then argues the answer, but never has the answer himself?

Has it ever been proven that he broke it in the first game. I've seen a couple people state that but he wasn't on the week 2 injury report and he had an MRI that showed no break after the second game. In the third week I distinctly remember him coming up lame and limping after one play and he limped the rest of the game. He wasn't really limping before that though.

 

[War Eagle]

Bottom line = who knows!

Until he is healthy, no projection is valid!

 

[valhallan]

Projection:It's Shaun Alexander, running on fresh legs, plus he's been standing on the sideline itching to play.I'd project Shaun Alexander #'s. Please see LJ or LT stats for number estimates!The ONLY question is.....WHEN?Clear enough?

He averaged 2.9 ypc before the injury this year. Combine that with the loss of Hutchinson and I don't think we can just assume he'll be his uber-stud self upon return.

For the sake of accuracy...1st Alexander broke his foot in the first game of the season2nd YOU asked for projections3rd Why don't YOU post YOUR projections?Are you one of those guys that asks a question and then argues the answer, but never has the answer himself?

Woah, what is your problem? You're being very abrasive for no reason.Here's what I posted earlier:

I am also a bit interested in projections once he comes back. He was hardly his usual self before the injury and Morris has been terrible. How much of the running game woes can we attribute to the loss of Hutchinson? How much will the loss of Locklear and return of Womack affect Seattle's production?I never get to see the Seahawks play (except for this Monday) so I have no way to gauge this year vs. prior years. Can we expect stud production if Shaun returns, or just mediocre numbers?

Obviously I do not get to see Seattle play much, so I can't really offer knowledgable projections. You want me to just throw numbers out? That doesn't help anyone.I know this board has been overrun by trolls, but please don't be contribute to the problem.

Sorry, did you just resort to name calling? Is that part of the "problem"?New projection: 3.5 - 4 ypcIt's called a projection. I didn't throw out some rediculous numbers like 1000 yards and 12 TDs. Just expect Shaun Alexder type numbers but NOT record setting numbers like last year.

That's what I was thinking too. Thanks.

 

[War Eagle]

Projection:It's Shaun Alexander, running on fresh legs, plus he's been standing on the sideline itching to play.I'd project Shaun Alexander #'s. Please see LJ or LT stats for number estimates!The ONLY question is.....WHEN?Clear enough?

He averaged 2.9 ypc before the injury this year. Combine that with the loss of Hutchinson and I don't think we can just assume he'll be his uber-stud self upon return.

For the sake of accuracy...1st Alexander broke his foot in the first game of the season2nd YOU asked for projections3rd Why don't YOU post YOUR projections?Are you one of those guys that asks a question and then argues the answer, but never has the answer himself?

Has it ever been proven that he broke it in the first game. I've seen a couple people state that but he wasn't on the week 2 injury report and he had an MRI that showed no break after the second game. In the third week I distinctly remember him coming up lame and limping after one play and he limped the rest of the game. He wasn't really limping before that though.

For some reason, Seattle and Alexander ignored the foot soreness and didn't have it examed until AFTER the week 3 game even though Alexander complainedof foot soreness after the week 1 game.Unfortunately that is the evidence and from the way Alezander has acted since the MRI, I'd say it's a 99% he broke it week 1.

 

[jim k]

Apologies if this has been posted already, but I found this site interesting regarding soccer players who have had the same broken bone.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/health_and...ess/4283136.stm

Great post Jim K, very informative. SA broke the 4th bone correct? That sounds like a more difficult injury to recover from.

Yes, the fourth one - that is the one next to the smallest toe. Of all the ones, I would guess it was the easiest of the ones listed to heal. Odd that no other player had the fourth one broken though.So from what I understand (being unlicensed medically and nonpracticing medically), the first metatarsal is the big piggy and you count to number five until you get to the littlest piggy.

Since each metatarsal is connected to a different toe, I would think that bigger bones would take longer to heal, so since it is the fourth one, which is cushioned on both sides by a toe, it will heal faster than the bigger toes and the end toes. However, the smaller ones can refracture easier than the bigger ones.

But even with all the science, it will be a matter of looking to see if the crack has healed enough (what that means is up to the medical staff, I guess) and then putting SA out there and hoping that it doesn't refracture again.

Since it still has a small crack currently, I would think they would want the crack to be gone so they don't risk losing their star back for good.

 

[KiddLattimer]

Agreed, if he didn't break it week 1, whatever happened during week 1 surely contributed to the injury.

More than likely he hurt it then though.

 

[War Eagle]

Apologies if this has been posted already, but I found this site interesting regarding soccer players who have had the same broken bone.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/health_and...ess/4283136.stm

Great post Jim K, very informative. SA broke the 4th bone correct? That sounds like a more difficult injury to recover from.

Yes, the fourth one - that is the one next to the smallest toe. Of all the ones, I would guess it was the easiest of the ones listed to heal. Odd that no other player had the fourth one broken though.So from what I understand (being unlicensed medically and nonpracticing medically), the first metatarsal is the big piggy and you count to number five until you get to the littlest piggy.

Since each metatarsal is connected to a different toe, I would think that bigger bones would take longer to heal, so since it is the fourth one, which is cushioned on both sides by a toe, it will heal faster than the bigger toes and the end toes. However, the smaller ones can refracture easier than the bigger ones.

But even with all the science, it will be a matter of looking to see if the crack has healed enough (what that means is up to the medical staff, I guess) and then putting SA out there and hoping that it doesn't refracture again.

Since it still has a small crack currently, I would think they would want the crack to be gone so they don't risk losing their star back for good.

The fact that Alexander is running on a tread mill and jumping around in front of Holgren trying to get in the game concerns me.Could he actually be hurting the healing process?

From the medical article I'd guess yes.

The question is, is Alexander in a boot?

 

[KiddLattimer]

The other contributing factor is that the Seahawks are going to start feeling pressure to make the playoffs, which could force him back sooner, or force them to use him a lot (and increasing his #s)

 

[War Eagle]

The other contributing factor is that the Seahawks are going to start feeling pressure to make the playoffs, which could force him back sooner, or force them to use him a lot (and increasing his #s)

I agree, but with their schedule and their division, I believe they can afford to wait and bring Hasselbeck and Alexander back together Nov 19th @ San Fran.

 

[KiddLattimer]

Hopefully back to 100% before the fantasy playoffs ... Arizona, San Fran looks sweet for weeks 14 & 15. Week 16 vs San Diego not so much.

 

[joffer]

Hopefully back to 100% before the fantasy playoffs ... Arizona, San Fran looks sweet for weeks 14 & 15. Week 16 vs San Diego not so much.

Larry Johnson's rushing numbersagainst Arizona - 16/36/0agasint San Diego - 28/132/2

 

[KiddLattimer]

Hopefully back to 100% before the fantasy playoffs ... Arizona, San Fran looks sweet for weeks 14 & 15. Week 16 vs San Diego not so much.

Larry Johnson's rushing numbersagainst Arizona - 16/36/0agasint San Diego - 28/132/2

True... but also he had 106 yards receiving vs AZ don't forget.

 

[BigDave]

Has it ever been proven that he broke it in the first game. I've seen a couple people state that but he wasn't on the week 2 injury report and he had an MRI that showed no break after the second game. In the third week I distinctly remember him coming up lame and limping after one play and he limped the rest of the game. He wasn't really limping before that though.

If he broke it in the second game, then Holgrem is an IDIOT.

If you remember, SA was used to run out the clock with 3 to 4 plays at the end of the game, when it was in hand. I remember because I lost by one point to my opponent who had SA.

Every F_ing team has the backup or 3rd stringer run out the clock. Momo could have easily "held on to the ball" and run out the clock and MAYBE SA wouldn't have had as much damage? Speculation I know, but why risk your best player in garbage time?

 

[cubbie5150]

Hopefully back to 100% before the fantasy playoffs ... Arizona, San Fran looks sweet for weeks 14 & 15. Week 16 vs San Diego not so much.

Larry Johnson's rushing numbersagainst Arizona - 16/36/0agasint San Diego - 28/132/2

True... but also he had 106 yards receiving vs AZ don't forget.

Great point....except for the fact SA doesn't figure into Seattle's passing game like LJ does for KC...

 

[Patoons]

Hopefully back to 100% before the fantasy playoffs ... Arizona, San Fran looks sweet for weeks 14 & 15. Week 16 vs San Diego not so much.

Larry Johnson's rushing numbersagainst Arizona - 16/36/0agasint San Diego - 28/132/2

True... but also he had 106 yards receiving vs AZ don't forget.

Great point....except for the fact SA doesn't figure into Seattle's passing game like LJ does for KC...

I think you're taking Joffer's "joke" a bit to literally here.

 

[KiddLattimer]

This doesn't sound too promising...

Seahawks | Alexander allowed to run in a straight line

Sun, 5 Nov 2006 10:12:43 -0800

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports Seattle Seahawks RB Shaun Alexander (foot) underwent X-rays Monday, Oct. 31, on his injured foot. The tests showed Alexander's foot was not healing the way the team expected it to and was only 70 percent healed. Alexander sent the pictures to a foot specialist in Dr. James Andrews' office for a second look. Both the Specialist and the Seahawks told Alexander it would be all right if he begins running in a straight line this week, but he has not been cleared to begin cutting on that foot. Alexander is scheduled to undergo another X-ray earlier this week to see if he could return to practice.

 

[KiddLattimer]

Sounds like Alexander could be back this week, he was vague in his interview on MNF but it seemed like he was implying that he would be back vs St Louis.

 

[War Eagle]

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=286463

 

[KiddLattimer]

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=286463

Dont worry its sure to get merged anyway.

 

[mobraten]

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=286463

Rotonews says:Shaun Alexander: Foot Healing, but Status Unclear - 11/6/2006 8:45:48 PM

Update:

During Monday's game, Alexander (left foot) told ESPN's Michele Tafoya that an X-ray of his left foot taken earlier in the day showed significant healing.

Recommendation:

Alexander will undergo additional tests on Tuesday, which should provide more insight into his Week 10 status. He still has not practiced since Week 3. Alexander is very questionable for Week 10.

http://www.rotowire.com/roto_to_gnews.htm?...3&sport=nfl