Saw Zero Dark Thirty (1 Viewer)

[flapgreen]

Also didn't like that there was hardly anything about planning/practicing the raid. I would not have told the story that way.

I was surprised at that too. I thought they built a replica of the compound and practiced the raid for months before the actual mission.

The raid was punching it through at the goal line. This movie is about the drive. Finding him is the more interesting story.

I agree with this. Seeing them practice wouldn't change it for me. It was more about how he was found.

 

[flapgreen]

Did the torture scenes really bother people that much? It's a movie.

So is Schindler's List.

Didn't bother me.

 

[mr roboto]

So the argument is 'I wish the scope was different!'

Its focus isn't the raid. HTH.

 

[Apple Jack]

I don't think the torture scenes bothered anybody, I think what bothered some (not me) was how in the story you don't get OBL without the torture. Some perceived it as glorifying torture.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Did the torture scenes really bother people that much? It's a movie.

So is Schindler's List.

I'm pretty sure most people who didn't like the torture feel like I do. There was just too much time spent on it. Which is why I said I didn't like the structure of the movie. Felt like the movie went nowhere for the first hour, then the middle got good, then all of a sudden they do the raid and it's over. meh. Cut 30mins out of the first half and add 30mins later as a suspensful planning of the raid.

The torture was done well. It didn't seem exploitive. But as a dramatic device, it just doesn't interest me. Someone mentioned that seeing the planning of the raid would have been interesting. I agree, and I would have rather seen that planning rather than all that torture.

 

[sporthenry]

So the argument is 'I wish the scope was different!'Its focus isn't the raid. HTH.

Well the movie trailers certainly didn't put that point across. They made it seem like it would be about equal parts investigation equal parts raid. Beyond that, the point is, some of us are saying our focuses wouldn't have been the raid. I think people are entitled to that opinion.

The movie did do a good job of getting across just how time consuming it was and I guess for that the movie did have to drag a bit but I think I would have done a movie with the first half being the investigation, the 2nd half being the ST6 training and the stories sort of converging when they see her before they take off.

 

[drummer]

I let my 10-year-old watch Die Hard. Child abuse?

Die Hard is like The Flintstones compared to Django and Zero.

Whew!

 

[drummer]

The "it's just a movie" thing doesn't work for me.

People are being tortured all over the world without any pending charges and without any oversight or regard to the Geneva convention. That this appears in a film doesn't make it any less horrifying.

BUT HAD TARANTINO DIRECTED IT....

 

[17seconds]

...and also there was a section of the movie where you were just waiting for a bomb to surprisingly explode

I give the whole thing a mild thumbs up

 

[LAUNCH]

Manhunt on HBO was way better.

 

[jdoggydogg]

The "it's just a movie" thing doesn't work for me.

People are being tortured all over the world without any pending charges and without any oversight or regard to the Geneva convention. That this appears in a film doesn't make it any less horrifying.

BUT HAD TARANTINO DIRECTED IT....

Ok, stalker.

 

[drummer]

The "it's just a movie" thing doesn't work for me.

People are being tortured all over the world without any pending charges and without any oversight or regard to the Geneva convention. That this appears in a film doesn't make it any less horrifying.

BUT HAD TARANTINO DIRECTED IT....

Ok, stalker.

Oh, the dreaded "stalker" label.

 

[flapgreen]

On now. I really enjoyed this movie.

 

[Daywalker]

The Act of Killing, steaming Netflix, and ZDT makes for an interesting double feature.

 

[jdoggydogg]

The Act of Killing, steaming Netflix, and ZDT makes for an interesting double feature.

I feel the same about a ZDT and a Generation Kill double feature.

 

[rockaction]

Once I got past the torture scenes, which left me conflicted in a real sense, this movie was awesome.

(paraphrased)

Gandolfini: So what else have you done for us?

Her: Nothing. I've done nothing else.

That line blew me away. To be recruited out of high school and to have only focused on Bin Laden and a couple of ####ty Middle East leads. Where does your faith come from?

Awesome movie. Bigelow is the best thing going right now, hands down. The plane ride back is so unceremonious, and it's like a dead soldier's flight back. She's unreal at juxtaposition.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Once I got past the torture scenes, which left me conflicted in a real sense, this movie was awesome.

(paraphrased)

Gandolfini: So what else have you done for us?

Her: Nothing. I've done nothing else.

That line blew me away. To be recruited out of high school and to have only focused on Bin Laden and a couple of ####ty Middle East leads. Where does your faith come from?

Awesome movie. Bigelow is the best thing going right now, hands down. The plane ride back is so unceremonious, and it's like a dead soldier's flight back. She's unreal at juxtaposition.

The torture scenes were really hard to watch. And much as I'm done with torture as a film device, the scenes seemed very realistic. Overall, I think this movie is fantastic. So many military movies and thrillers are written for a broad audience. The writing and story in Zero Dark is refreshingly mature.

 

[Daywalker]

Once I got past the torture scenes, which left me conflicted in a real sense, this movie was awesome.

(paraphrased)

Gandolfini: So what else have you done for us?

Her: Nothing. I've done nothing else.

That line blew me away. To be recruited out of high school and to have only focused on Bin Laden and a couple of ####ty Middle East leads. Where does your faith come from?

Awesome movie. Bigelow is the best thing going right now, hands down. The plane ride back is so unceremonious, and it's like a dead soldier's flight back. She's unreal at juxtaposition.

The torture scenes were really hard to watch. And much as I'm done with torture as a film device, the scenes seemed very realistic. Overall, I think this movie is fantastic. So many military movies and thrillers are written for a broad audience. The writing and story in Zero Dark is refreshingly mature.

The score and helicopter scenes are magnificent. Sounds odd, but the patience of the raid scene really brought you in. It's great filmmaking. Still haven't seen Life of Pi but Bigelow really laid this out.

 

[rockaction]

Once I got past the torture scenes, which left me conflicted in a real sense, this movie was awesome.

(paraphrased)

Gandolfini: So what else have you done for us?

Her: Nothing. I've done nothing else.

That line blew me away. To be recruited out of high school and to have only focused on Bin Laden and a couple of ####ty Middle East leads. Where does your faith come from?

Awesome movie. Bigelow is the best thing going right now, hands down. The plane ride back is so unceremonious, and it's like a dead soldier's flight back. She's unreal at juxtaposition.

The torture scenes were really hard to watch. And much as I'm done with torture as a film device, the scenes seemed very realistic. Overall, I think this movie is fantastic. So many military movies and thrillers are written for a broad audience. The writing and story in Zero Dark is refreshingly mature.

I aborted the first mission because of the torture scenes. I didn't want to do that to myself. Plus, I knew its length and must have been ornery that night.

Once you get past the torture scenes, the movie is an unbelievable character study that slides into a smartly written action movie, with the character study in the background. Bigelow gives us the sweet spot between Point Break and The Hurt Locker, both of which are now movies I need to see again, even though I've seen them several times. For all of The Hurt Locker's genius -- and bless my friend for dragging me to a theater in NY to see it (extra large popcorn for twenty-five cents more, sir? "Always! More butter, please.") Zero Dark Thirty might have been a better movie. I walked out of Hurt Locker blown away (no pun) and thought it should win Best Picture.

Perhaps I'm hyper-intellectualizing and out of my depth here, but I think the movement from character study to action movie is what happens, and helps make the movie so effective.

Or, I'm just shooting the #### before the Sweden/Canada game.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Once I got past the torture scenes, which left me conflicted in a real sense, this movie was awesome.

(paraphrased)

Gandolfini: So what else have you done for us?

Her: Nothing. I've done nothing else.

That line blew me away. To be recruited out of high school and to have only focused on Bin Laden and a couple of ####ty Middle East leads. Where does your faith come from?

Awesome movie. Bigelow is the best thing going right now, hands down. The plane ride back is so unceremonious, and it's like a dead soldier's flight back. She's unreal at juxtaposition.

The torture scenes were really hard to watch. And much as I'm done with torture as a film device, the scenes seemed very realistic. Overall, I think this movie is fantastic. So many military movies and thrillers are written for a broad audience. The writing and story in Zero Dark is refreshingly mature.

I aborted the first mission because of the torture scenes. I didn't want to do that to myself. Plus, I knew its length and must have been ornery that night.

Once you get past the torture scenes, the movie is an unbelievable character study that slides into a smartly written action movie, with the character study in the background. Bigelow gives us the sweet spot between Point Break and The Hurt Locker, both of which are now movies I need to see again, even though I've seen them several times. For all of The Hurt Locker's genius -- and bless my friend for dragging me to a theater in NY to see it (extra large popcorn for twenty-five cents more, sir? "Always! More butter, please.") Zero Dark Thirty might have been a better movie. I walked out of Hurt Locker blown away (no pun) and thought it should win Best Picture.

Perhaps I'm hyper-intellectualizing and out of my depth here, but I think the movement from character study to action movie is what happens, and helps make the movie so effective.

Or, I'm just shooting the #### before the Sweden/Canada game.

I liked Hurt Locker, but I think Zero is a better movie.

 

[flapgreen]

This movie kicked ###. The torture scenes were awesome too. It was cool to see how some of the stuff really went down. Agreed on patience of the raid. I really felt like I was there. From all the specials I've watched on it, it was close to how it went down. Great stuff! I liked Lone Survivor but this was just a better movie.

Great the 2nd and 3rd time around too.