Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
is this true?
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Sean Payton suspended 1 year (1 Viewer)
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is this true?
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
front page on espn so probably
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
its in giant red letters on the NFL.com site
footballnerd
Footballguy
ouch
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
That's insane. Is this partly because of the other stuff involving prescription meds the year before?1 year for something all teams seem to take part in? Goodell must be really chomping since he had a short off season to weigh in last year.
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
lol. Williams banned likely for life, well deserved. Payton got a pretty harsh punishment.
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
Mickey Loomis suspended 8 games, also.
FavreCo
Footballguy
Disc Shark
Footballguy
The suspension of Payton for 1 year is excessive. The other penalties (Loomis - 8 games; Vitt - 6 games; Williams - indefinite; loss of 2 #2 draft picks) seem reasonable, but the sanction against Sean Payton is really heavy.
New Orleans Times-Picayune
New Orleans Times-Picayune
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
It's unprecedented...we need to change the NFL to the GFL.
Disc Shark
Footballguy
The excessive penalties against the Saints now put them at a competitive disadvantage for infractions that did not result in a competitive advantage.
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
This is a huge blow to that Saints offense...wow
Maik Jeaunz
Footballguy
for a punishment like that, I want to see the evidence that they were actually trying to hurt people.
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
So what? Just because people been shooting heroin forever you gonna let your child do it? Genocide is always going on, so it's ok. The it happens argument is weak. You get caught, you get punished.
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
Seriously?
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I thought I was going to be in the minority in thinking that this is excessive, but it looks like I'm not. This strikes me as being way too much considering how lightly NE got off when they were caught blatantly cheating.
Macdaddy_2004
Footballguy
So who takes over the saints for a year?
I dont know about this. I think they way they went after Brett Favre was the reason they won that game and gave them a Super Bowl. They played over the edge and it showed with some results. There O was still potent though
footballnerd
Footballguy
how do you suspend a coach, is it just not allowing him to attend games?
Disc Shark
Footballguy
It certainly doesn't help the Saints' offense, but the OC, Pete Carmichael, ran the offense for most of last season. And the 2011 Saints offense was the best in NFL history.
This is beyond cheating, the NFL is trying to promote player safety to implement the 18 game season and this needed to be done to show that they're in the camp of player safety.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
All I have to say is WOW!!!
Gadabout
Footballguy
Vikes would've actually won that game had Favre been knocked out.
Righetti
Footballguy
It feels to me like Payton is taking some of the 'hit' for Williams.. since williams isn't on the NO coaching staff anymore, his suspension isn't one that will hurt the franchise..I think that if Williams was still on staff..Payton would have gotten off a bit easier..
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Did you notice those Lite "Commish" ads are no longer running? That was also Goodell's doing.
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
I hope Gregg Williams never coaches again, he is a pathetic human being and I'm not alone in this thought.
Macdaddy_2004
Footballguy
I am guessing he is gone for a year - I'm interested in who will take over for the year.
Disc Shark
Footballguy
Sure they went after Favre, but the bounties did not give them a competitive advantage over the Vikings in that game. Most of the hits on Favre were perfectly legal.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I did the New Orleans-Chicago game summary last year, still up in the archives from last season. I thought at the time that Earl Bennett's hit he absorbed to the chest was very excessive by one of the Saints Safeties...I believe it was Porter IIRC. He really put an end to the majority of Bennett's season, he was headhunting, was leading with his helmet the whole way. Was not surprised that New Orleans was caught, completely shocked at the suspensions.Correction-Roman Harper
Knew it was Harper, total headhunter
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Disc Shark
Footballguy
As the details of the evidence against the Saints becomes public, I predict that the relationship between Payton and Mike Ornstein will be one of the main reasons for the severity of the penalty against Sean Payton. I think there is a good chance that Williams is done as an NFL coach, which is also a pretty harsh sanction.
RBM
Footballguy
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az_prof
Footballguy
I think the penalty is appropriate although Bellicheat should have gotten the same and the HC in Oakland a few years ago who broke the jaw of an assistant should have gotten something similar for assault. I don't have a problem with the penalty but it is another example of the NFL not being consistent with penalties. The same thing happens on the field every week of an NFL season. Some teams get nailed for late hits or dangerous hits or holding penalties, while other teams (NE and GB to name two) get away with murder.
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Todem
Footballguy
You misunderstood me. I don't agree with it (money to injure players)....it has been going on for decades.....this is nothing new at all. That is football. Don't fool yourself. It is a very violent, take no prisoners game.
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B-Deep
Footballguy
well if you do it via bounties you know what it'll cost you nowthe whole "it goes on all the time" does not make the league want to go easy on the saints, the opposite, it makes them WANT to come down harder to end it
massraider
Footballguy
Brutal punishment. Almost as brutal as the practice of offering monetary bonuses for injuring players.
Goodell made an example of Payton, and that sucks, but this needs to be nipped in the bud. The NFL cannot give the impression that this is remotely tolerated.
By the way, for the conspiracy theorists without a shred of proof, if this had been "going on for years", and "everyone was doing it", we would have heard about it, and there would be more investigations. We haven't, there aren't, and that's because everyone is NOT doing this.
Goodell made an example of Payton, and that sucks, but this needs to be nipped in the bud. The NFL cannot give the impression that this is remotely tolerated.
By the way, for the conspiracy theorists without a shred of proof, if this had been "going on for years", and "everyone was doing it", we would have heard about it, and there would be more investigations. We haven't, there aren't, and that's because everyone is NOT doing this.
Todem
Footballguy
It is totally excessive.
Andrew74
Footballguy
Cheating is the way to go.
This is how Goodell rolls. He's been suspending players for off field stuff for years. Whether anyone gets an advantage is irrelevant. How it impacts on image is all that really matters.
simey
Footballguy
I would think he isn't allowed to coach at all. Suspended players aren't allowed at their team's practice facilities or stadium, and I'm guessing Payton has to go by the same rules.
wadegarrett
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