Sean Salisbury -- back off the Panthers ... (1 Viewer)

[Doug B]

If I hear that smug jerk go off again like a broken record about how the Panthers are going to catch the Saints ... He was probably still saying it after the game last night.

Yeah, guy -- it's mathematically possible ... but Steve Smith can't throw to himself. Smith's mere presence isn't going to cut it, so let's quit pretending it is. If you want to say the Saints don't have it in the bag yet, fine -- that much is true. But don't act like a Panthers divisional title is still a foregone conclusion when the team is two games out and ice cold as of late.

 

[This_Is_Not_VRR]

Most resilient team in football, my ###.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

Tell Herbstreet to back off the Big Ten bandwagon while you are at it.

Can't tell he played for Ohio State. I will be so happy if the Gators put his Buckeyes down. He didn't even give us a chance to play, nevertheless beat, his beloved Buckeyes.

No wonder Michigan wants to beat them so bad.

 

[Doug B]

Tell Herbstreet to back off the Big Ten bandwagon while you are at it.Can't tell he played for Ohio State. I will be so happy if the Gators put his Buckeyes down. He didn't even give us a chance to play, nevertheless beat, his beloved Buckeyes.No wonder Michigan wants to beat them so bad.

True ... but I can understand homerism. I can't understand refusal to re-assess NFL teams as they stand now. Salisbury acts like nothing's changed between August and Week 12.

 

[saintfool]

Look at the Panthers remaining games...

Giants

Pittsburgh

@ Atlanta

@ NO

Look at the Saints remaining games....

@ Dallas

Washington

@ Giants

Carolina

The Panthers have an easier go of it certainly and catch the Saints on the final game of the year. I think that's all Salisbury is looking at.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

Look at the Panthers remaining games...GiantsPittsburgh@ Atlanta@ NOLook at the Saints remaining games....@ DallasWashington@ GiantsCarolinaThe Panthers have an easier go of it certainly and catch the Saints on the final game of the year. I think that's all Salisbury is looking at.

I'd say the Saints schedule is easier. NO: WAS suxors. NYG wil lbe done by game 15. @ DAL is tough. Crappy CAR at home.CAR: NYG still trying. PIT is easy. ATL in the playoff hunt. At the Superdome.At a minimum they are even schedules.Salibury is a ###, and dumb as crackers. He should still be walking naked to WAS...but he's a wus and won't own up to his own statements.CAR, with the excpetion of Smith, is a horrible team. Heck. They lost to the ####### Redskins.

 

[Gargoylez]

I think the Panthers have a talented team... I dont know if its Delhomme or what but somethings missing... just not right. They should of never lost to the iggles last night IMO.

 

[Doug B]

Look at the Panthers remaining games...GiantsPittsburgh@ Atlanta@ NOLook at the Saints remaining games....@ DallasWashington@ GiantsCarolinaThe Panthers have an easier go of it certainly and catch the Saints on the final game of the year. I think that's all Salisbury is looking at.

I think the schedules are about even, actually. The Giants and Falcons should still be playing for something when they play the Panthers, being that the three teams are fighting for wild cards. If the Steelers come in with some pride ... I can't say that the Panthers are better than Pittsburgh. We do travel to Dallas, true, but I think we're up to the task -- I don't see the Cowboys as a conclusively better team than the Saints (it's a pick'em to me, regardless of venue). And then we get a probable respite against Washington. I worry about the weather on the trip to the Meadowlands, but I do think the Saints are a better team than the Giants.

 

[MLBrandow]

I think Doug B's point is that Salisbury always picks the Panthers to win every week, always picks them to win the division, and always picks them to win the Super Bowl.

And in this case, it's not entirely likely.

Unfortunately, as much of a bonehead as I think Salisbury is... I think he's also right about that.

I don't think the Saints will make the playoffs.

 

[zoonation]

I think Doug B's point is that Salisbury always picks the Panthers to win every week, always picks them to win the division, and always picks them to win the Super Bowl.And in this case, it's not entirely likely.Unfortunately, as much of a bonehead as I think Salisbury is... I think he's also right about that.I don't think the Saints will make the playoffs.

They need to win one more game. Two absolutely seals it.

 

[Doug B]

I think Doug B's point is that Salisbury always picks the Panthers to win every week, always picks them to win the division, and always picks them to win the Super Bowl.And in this case, it's not entirely likely.Unfortunately, as much of a bonehead as I think Salisbury is... I think he's also right about that.I don't think the Saints will make the playoffs.

One of us will have a nice bump in three weeks.

 

[Doug B]

They need to win one more game. Two absolutely seals it.

Dude's fishing ... no way can MLBrandow logically convince others that the Saints will drop four straight. That's what would pretty much have to happen for the Saints to miss the playoffs.And ... newsflash -- Haslett, Venturi, and Aaron Brooks are long gone. There's no "bad history" mumbo-jumbo to invoke here. The Brees-and-Payton-led Saints have no history of December chokes. 2002 doesn't matter at all.

 

[Wheelhouse]

Why Carolina is 6-6...

1. They can't finish. This is old news, but they are 11-1 this season if all games ended after the 3rd quarter.

2. They are 2nd worst in the NFL in red zone possessions with only 31. Last year at this time they had 41. The 2-10 teams are supposed to be in this category.

3. They have a 29.6% conversion percentage on 3rd downs - last in the NFL

4. They are averaging 26.0 rushes per game. Last year that was 30.4

5. Their LB corps is much different from last year. No Morgan and no Witherspoon. They are playing the run pretty well, but their coverage abilities are poor, especially against plays over the middle. Anyone who's a Panthers fan knows the TE usually thrives on the Panthers defense. Their LB corps just struggles against plays in the middle of the field where the corner turns the coverage over to the roving LB's.

6. Their DB's are hurting, struggling or aging. Ken Lucas has been banged up all season, Chris Gamble is proving to not be the player we thought he might be. Shaun Williams is the same he was with the Giants, a weak defender that other teams exploit. Mike Minter's heart is stronger than his talent. He is fading away from the level of talent that he thinks he has.

7. Combine all of that with incredibly bad luck, conservative play-calling with a lead and a tired defense come the 45th minute & beyond and that spells disappointment.

A quote from John Fox - "where are who we are." Well, isn't that the truth!

 

[SteelerMurf]

Saints got beat by the Steelers who got beat by the Raiders. Saints must be the worst team in the NFL.

 

[flapgreen]

I actually liked Salisbury at one time but he just annoys me now.

 

[kevjones22]

He is so clueless, anyone who is marginally hot at the time he hypes them out of this universe, last year during the nfc championship game he called jake delomme 'mvp caliber' and 'most accurate passer in the nfl.' hes horrible and he usually just shouts like irvin...

 

[NOONAN]

Why Carolina is 6-6...

1. They can't finish. This is old news, but they are 11-1 this season if all games ended after the 3rd quarter.

2. They are 2nd worst in the NFL in red zone possessions with only 31. Last year at this time they had 41. The 2-10 teams are supposed to be in this category.

3. They have a 29.6% conversion percentage on 3rd downs - last in the NFL

4. They are averaging 26.0 rushes per game. Last year that was 30.4

5. Their LB corps is much different from last year. No Morgan and no Witherspoon. They are playing the run pretty well, but their coverage abilities are poor, especially against plays over the middle. Anyone who's a Panthers fan knows the TE usually thrives on the Panthers defense. Their LB corps just struggles against plays in the middle of the field where the corner turns the coverage over to the roving LB's.

6. Their DB's are hurting, struggling or aging. Ken Lucas has been banged up all season, Chris Gamble is proving to not be the player we thought he might be. Shaun Williams is the same he was with the Giants, a weak defender that other teams exploit. Mike Minter's heart is stronger than his talent. He is fading away from the level of talent that he thinks he has.

7. Combine all of that with incredibly bad luck, conservative play-calling with a lead and a tired defense come the 45th minute & beyond and that spells disappointment.

A quote from John Fox - "where are who we are." Well, isn't that the truth!

You left out the O-line. Can't seem to run block effectively, which leads to longer 3rd downs which leads to less conversions, less plays, less running opportunities, less red zone possessions, less time of possession, and about 7 less points per game so far.On the D side, Witherspoon is the biggest missing piece IMO. He makes STL look respectable!!!

What is this year's TOP vs last??? I would bet you have seen an6-8 minute swing and maybe 8-10 less plays.

BTW, I am a Panthers fan.

 

[MLBrandow]

They need to win one more game. Two absolutely seals it.

Dude's fishing ... no way can MLBrandow logically convince others that the Saints will drop four straight. That's what would pretty much have to happen for the Saints to miss the playoffs.And ... newsflash -- Haslett, Venturi, and Aaron Brooks are long gone. There's no "bad history" mumbo-jumbo to invoke here. The Brees-and-Payton-led Saints have no history of December chokes. 2002 doesn't matter at all.

Maybe, but I expect CAR to win out.I expect NO to drop at least two of its next three.

So, it will come down to the Week 17 showdown for the division.

That said, I expect CAR to win that game and the division.

NO, at 8-8 misses the playoffs, and NO at 9-7 defaults to a 6 seed, pending none of the current 6-6 or 5-7 teams wins out.

NO needs its defense to play more consistently. Through the last six weeks, three games they have held opponents under 15 points, and three games opponents have racked up over 30.

Those three losses were against real teams, and the three wins were against inconsistent and struggling offenses.

DAL, WAS, NYG and CAR all have offenses that are coming alive right now, and it's not unreasonable to expect that these games will develop into 50+ point affairs.

We shall see though, but I remain skeptical until NO can prove to me it has a defense that will consistently perform.

Fox and the Panthers are a seasoned playoff team and have made the stretch run twice in the past few years.

NO is in the middle of a cinderella-esque campaign and I don't see it leading anywhere when these games start to really matter. Few members of that team have any profound grasp of the gravity of such a late season push or a postseason run.

You might think stuff like this doesn't matter, but it does a great deal. This isn't college basketball, it's pro football.

These games are in December.

Feel free to bump this if the Saints go 12-4.... I'll gladly eat my words because I'm not a believer.

 

[saintfool]

They need to win one more game. Two absolutely seals it.

Dude's fishing ... no way can MLBrandow logically convince others that the Saints will drop four straight. That's what would pretty much have to happen for the Saints to miss the playoffs.And ... newsflash -- Haslett, Venturi, and Aaron Brooks are long gone. There's no "bad history" mumbo-jumbo to invoke here. The Brees-and-Payton-led Saints have no history of December chokes. 2002 doesn't matter at all.

Maybe, but I expect CAR to win out.I expect NO to drop at least two of its next three.

So, it will come down to the Week 17 showdown for the division.

That said, I expect CAR to win that game and the division.

NO, at 8-8 misses the playoffs, and NO at 9-7 defaults to a 6 seed, pending none of the current 6-6 or 5-7 teams wins out.

NO needs its defense to play more consistently. Through the last six weeks, three games they have held opponents under 15 points, and three games opponents have racked up over 30.

Those three losses were against real teams, and the three wins were against inconsistent and struggling offenses.

DAL, WAS, NYG and CAR all have offenses that are coming alive right now, and it's not unreasonable to expect that these games will develop into 50+ point affairs.

We shall see though, but I remain skeptical until NO can prove to me it has a defense that will consistently perform.

Fox and the Panthers are a seasoned playoff team and have made the stretch run twice in the past few years.

NO is in the middle of a cinderella-esque campaign and I don't see it leading anywhere when these games start to really matter. Few members of that team have any profound grasp of the gravity of such a late season push or a postseason run.

You might think stuff like this doesn't matter, but it does a great deal. This isn't college basketball, it's pro football.

These games are in December.

Feel free to bump this if the Saints go 12-4.... I'll gladly eat my words because I'm not a believer.

I love my Saints dearly but I partially agree with what you are saying. I think that Dallas, Giants and Carolina are playing for their postseason lives. Dallas is assured of the berth but wants to lock the #2 NFC spot. Giants are looking less and less playoff probable. Carolina is the same up and down team we've seen the past few years. Maybe it's not injuries this year that are making them Jeckyll-Hyde but it's something (again) they seem to do every year. While I think NO can handle Giants and Redskins well enough, the pressure is on the Saints now. Carolina has 2 pretty easy games with Pittsburgh and Giants back to back. Saints might lose to Dallas and win against Washington. Only 1 game lead with 2 weeks to play at that point. It could come down to week 17, I think. We aren't out of the playoffs this season, I think, but we might lose the division title if we don't get the breaks...

 

[Sidewinder]

They need to win one more game. Two absolutely seals it.

Dude's fishing ... no way can MLBrandow logically convince others that the Saints will drop four straight. That's what would pretty much have to happen for the Saints to miss the playoffs.And ... newsflash -- Haslett, Venturi, and Aaron Brooks are long gone. There's no "bad history" mumbo-jumbo to invoke here. The Brees-and-Payton-led Saints have no history of December chokes. 2002 doesn't matter at all.

Maybe, but I expect CAR to win out.I expect NO to drop at least two of its next three.

So, it will come down to the Week 17 showdown for the division.

That said, I expect CAR to win that game and the division.

NO, at 8-8 misses the playoffs, and NO at 9-7 defaults to a 6 seed, pending none of the current 6-6 or 5-7 teams wins out.

NO needs its defense to play more consistently. Through the last six weeks, three games they have held opponents under 15 points, and three games opponents have racked up over 30.

Those three losses were against real teams, and the three wins were against inconsistent and struggling offenses.

DAL, WAS, NYG and CAR all have offenses that are coming alive right now, and it's not unreasonable to expect that these games will develop into 50+ point affairs.

We shall see though, but I remain skeptical until NO can prove to me it has a defense that will consistently perform.

Fox and the Panthers are a seasoned playoff team and have made the stretch run twice in the past few years.

NO is in the middle of a cinderella-esque campaign and I don't see it leading anywhere when these games start to really matter. Few members of that team have any profound grasp of the gravity of such a late season push or a postseason run.

You might think stuff like this doesn't matter, but it does a great deal. This isn't college basketball, it's pro football.

These games are in December.

Feel free to bump this if the Saints go 12-4.... I'll gladly eat my words because I'm not a believer.

I love my Saints dearly but I partially agree with what you are saying. I think that Dallas, Giants and Carolina are playing for their postseason lives. Dallas is assured of the berth but wants to lock the #2 NFC spot. Giants are looking less and less playoff probable. Carolina is the same up and down team we've seen the past few years. Maybe it's not injuries this year that are making them Jeckyll-Hyde but it's something (again) they seem to do every year. While I think NO can handle Giants and Redskins well enough, the pressure is on the Saints now. Carolina has 2 pretty easy games with Pittsburgh and Giants back to back. Saints might lose to Dallas and win against Washington. Only 1 game lead with 2 weeks to play at that point. It could come down to week 17, I think. We aren't out of the playoffs this season, I think, but we might lose the division title if we don't get the breaks...

Guess I don't see his logic at all.So you expect Carolina, a team that has lost 4 of their last 6, to win out, but expect the Saints (3-3 in their last 6) to lose at least 3 of their final 4 ? Interesting outlook, especially when you seem to be basing at least part of your rationale on Carolina's ability "to make a stretch run". Maybe you didn't notice the losses to Wash and Philly (the epitome of inconsistent and struggling teams)? Great way to start the stretch run...

Not really surprising that the Saints defense will continue to be questioned, but I think it's good enough when the offense holds onto the ball. The three games you mention where where the "defense" has given up 30+ points all had a common theme: Balt: 5 turnovers, 2 which were taken back for TDs; Cinc: 4 turnovers, 1 which went back for a TD, and 2 others where Brees was picked off in the end zone; Pitt: 3 turnovers, one at the Pitt 20 after driving down for a potential tying score in the final minute.

 

[Gargoylez]

They need to win one more game. Two absolutely seals it.

Dude's fishing ... no way can MLBrandow logically convince others that the Saints will drop four straight. That's what would pretty much have to happen for the Saints to miss the playoffs.And ... newsflash -- Haslett, Venturi, and Aaron Brooks are long gone. There's no "bad history" mumbo-jumbo to invoke here. The Brees-and-Payton-led Saints have no history of December chokes. 2002 doesn't matter at all.

Saints would have to have a monumental meltdown... after last weeks win, I just can't see them missing the playoffs especially in what is now a weak division. It was one of teh leagues toughest last year and now its as bad as the NFC west.Panthers still can make the playoffs... I just can't see them doing it, if you cant beat teh Eagles, then you might as well hang it up.

 

[saintfool]

Guess I don't see his logic at all.So you expect Carolina, a team that has lost 4 of their last 6, to win out, but expect the Saints (3-3 in their last 6) to lose at least 3 of their final 4 ? Interesting outlook, especially when you seem to be basing at least part of your rationale on Carolina's ability "to make a stretch run". Maybe you didn't notice the losses to Wash and Philly (the epitome of inconsistent and struggling teams)? Great way to start the stretch run...Not really surprising that the Saints defense will continue to be questioned, but I think it's good enough when the offense holds onto the ball. The three games you mention where where the "defense" has given up 30+ points all had a common theme: Balt: 5 turnovers, 2 which were taken back for TDs; Cinc: 4 turnovers, 1 which went back for a TD, and 2 others where Brees was picked off in the end zone; Pitt: 3 turnovers, one at the Pitt 20 after driving down for a potential tying score in the final minute.

I see it like this: - If we beat Dallas this week then all this worry and speculation is for nothing. There is almost no way for Carolina to catch us.- If we lose to Dallas this week then it gets interesting. Carolina can easily win the next 2 games against Pitt and NY. We'll only have a 1 game lead on them. They'll play for their postseason lives in week 17 against us. All of this isn't even considering the possibility that Atlanta, NY, and Phillie are competing too.Again, don't mistake my intent. I think we get to the playoffs unless a spectacular collapse happens. The question is really does Carolina and with what kind of momentum? I don't want to somehow play them in the postseason after maybe having just lost to them in the Dome.

 

[Doug B]

MLBrandow ... were you the guy that predicted the Saints would lose seven straight games, starting with the October 8th game at home against TB? I should look that thread up and see.

 

[Sidewinder]

... It was one of teh leagues toughest last year and now its as bad as the NFC west....

Exaggerate much ? Seattle is clearer the best of the 8 teams, but NO, Atl, and Car are all superior to StL, SF, and Ariz. Probably a toss-up between your Bucs and Ariz for the worst of the bunch...

 

[Sidewinder]

I see it like this: - If we beat Dallas this week then all this worry and speculation is for nothing. There is almost no way for Carolina to catch us.- If we lose to Dallas this week then it gets interesting. Carolina can easily win the next 2 games against Pitt and NY. We'll only have a 1 game lead on them. They'll play for their postseason lives in week 17 against us. All of this isn't even considering the possibility that Atlanta, NY, and Phillie are competing too.Again, don't mistake my intent. I think we get to the playoffs unless a spectacular collapse happens. The question is really does Carolina and with what kind of momentum? I don't want to somehow play them in the postseason after maybe having just lost to them in the Dome.

I understand. I just don't see Carolina starting a run now, especially after their play the past 2 weeks. As far as losing to a team in the Dome on the last Sunday of the season, then playing them again the following week, worked out ok last time that happened.

 

[Doug B]

Exaggerate much ? Seattle is clearer the best of the 8 teams, but NO, Atl, and Car are all superior to StL, SF, and Ariz. Probably a toss-up between your Bucs and Ariz for the worst of the bunch...

For me, Seattle and the Saints are pretty much equals ... perhaps the Saints are even a bit better.

 

[Gargoylez]

... It was one of teh leagues toughest last year and now its as bad as the NFC west....

Exaggerate much ? Seattle is clearer the best of the 8 teams, but NO, Atl, and Car are all superior to StL, SF, and Ariz. Probably a toss-up between your Bucs and Ariz for the worst of the bunch...

Tampa and Carolina were pretty equal to Seattle. Seattle just had a better game in the playoffs and made the Bowl. New Orleans struggled and pretty much matched up with Arizona. NFC south was one of the toughest divisions in the league having two teams with double digit wins. Toss up between the EAST and the SOUTH in the NFC, but the West in the AFC probably being the toughest last year. So how exactly is that exaggerating????

 

[Sidewinder]

...So how exactly is that exaggerating????

You wrote:

Saints would have to have a monumental meltdown... after last weeks win, I just can't see them missing the playoffs especially in what is now a weak division. It was one of teh leagues toughest last year and now its as bad as the NFC west....

"I just can't see them missing the playoffs especially in what is now a weak division" -- "them" being the Saints."in what is now a weak division" -- meaning the NFC South.Then you add "It was one of teh leagues toughest last year and now its as bad as the NFC west" -- "it" being the NFC South.The NFC South is no where near as bad as the NFC West. That is exaggerating. Of course, you are prone to that.

 

[Doug B]

MLBrandow ... were you the guy that predicted the Saints would lose seven straight games, starting with the October 8th game at home against TB? I should look that thread up and see.

Never mind ... I saw that is was comfortably numb, not you.

 

[Dt's Mules]

pretty well documented that sean and keyshawn are good friends...that might be swaying him even more

 

[Gargoylez]

...So how exactly is that exaggerating????

You wrote:

Saints would have to have a monumental meltdown... after last weeks win, I just can't see them missing the playoffs especially in what is now a weak division. It was one of teh leagues toughest last year and now its as bad as the NFC west....

"I just can't see them missing the playoffs especially in what is now a weak division" -- "them" being the Saints."in what is now a weak division" -- meaning the NFC South.Then you add "It was one of teh leagues toughest last year and now its as bad as the NFC west" -- "it" being the NFC South.The NFC South is no where near as bad as the NFC West. That is exaggerating. Of course, you are prone to that.

well ok. You seem to have a boner for me for some reason.Lets look shall we?NO 8-4 SEA 8-4ATL 6-6 STL 5-7 CAR 6-6 SF 5-7TB 3-9 ARI 3-9So what your saying... is 2 games difference is Exaggerating? not even going to bother, it just gets old hat. Need to get a new schtick. Your "prove me wrong" crap is old, boring and I man up when I am wrong. So move on from High school and join the rest of us. Thanks.

 

[Doug B]

I don't think the Saints will make the playoffs.

Sticking by that?

 

[Doug B]

Maybe, but I expect CAR to win out.I expect NO to drop at least two of its next three.So, it will come down to the Week 17 showdown for the division.That said, I expect CAR to win that game and the division.

 

[harryhood]

Doug is loving today. Rightfully so Doug, you would think with all of these NFL prognosticators on this board predicting the fall of the saints, that New Orleans should have not even suited up yesterday!! I mean this is the NO Saints we are talking about here, they have no shot of beating Dallas, right!!

Enjoy your win and division championship. You guys are a tough football team. I will be excited for the GMEN to go up against them. I really need to see if they can stick around with you guys; will be a good measuring stick for The Boys in Blue!

 

[crushtang]

I was watching The Blitz last night and Salisbury said he was "officially" jumping off the Panthers bandwagon.

 

[Gargoylez]

I don't think the Saints will make the playoffs.

Sticking by that?

Graduate 5th grade? Thats all you have? Please... give me and everyone else a break. I was wrong. We have already established that. Give it a rest, it reminds me of middle school. I figured people on this board were beyond that. But not some. Guess when your team is winning its a waiver for ignorance.Anyways on to more important things... which isnt hard.Panthers are down and out and I beleive the Falcons are too... barely beating a Buccaneer team on a Defensive play is not impressive. Listening to up all night on ESPN tho... they were calling him Chris WANKY. I thought that was pretty funny...

 

[Doug B]

Doug is loving today. Rightfully so Doug, you would think with all of these NFL prognosticators on this board predicting the fall of the saints, that New Orleans should have not even suited up yesterday!! I mean this is the NO Saints we are talking about here, they have no shot of beating Dallas, right!!

It was interesting ... a significant minority of the national sports radio medium was actually favoring the Saints. But yeah, there were a few too many who acted as though the Cowboys needed only to show up to win. That hype bubble was inflated quite a bit, and that hype serves no team well.

Enjoy your win and division championship. You guys are a tough football team. I will be excited for the GMEN to go up against them. I really need to see if they can stick around with you guys; will be a good measuring stick for The Boys in Blue!

We travel to NJ ... hoping not to have a snow day

 

[Doug B]

I was watching The Blitz last night and Salisbury said he was "officially" jumping off the Panthers bandwagon.

Thanks, I had missed that.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Can anyone give any reason why any of us should care what Sean Salisbury thinks about anything football-related?

 

[Doug B]

I don't think the Saints will make the playoffs.

Sticking by that?

Graduate 5th grade? Thats all you have? Please... give me and everyone else a break. I was wrong. We have already established that. Give it a rest, it reminds me of middle school. I figured people on this board were beyond that. But not some. Guess when your team is winning its a waiver for ignorance.

MLBrandow?

Listening to up all night on ESPN tho... they were calling him Chris WANKY. I thought that was pretty funny...

I always think of the movie Hollywood Shuffle: "Weinke ... Dinky ... Dog!"

 

[BigJim®]

We need a new thread:

"John Fox and the 2nd rate RBs he loves."

Please tell me this guy is intentionally sandbagging because it makes no earthly sense that he would give D.Williams 2 carries. Enjoy the 2.9 YPC as you steer your team out of the playoffs.

 

[dickey moe]

Can anyone give any reason why any of us should care what Sean Salisbury thinks about anything football-related?

He's on TV.

 

[Sidewinder]

...Your "prove me wrong" crap is old ...

Nah, it never gets old with losers like you.

... I man up when I am wrong. ...

Yeah, sure you do.