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LJ might be a buy low... the Pats run D looked pretty solid. Although I have to say that LJ looked really really bad - was running into his blockers, didn't seem to have any burst, just looked very tentative. For those reasons, though, you might be able to get him on the cheap and hope that the LJ of old returns sometime soon.

 
Turner is NOT a sell high. I dont care how bad the Lions are, you dont just average 10 yards a carry without skill or a decent OLine

 
Although I have to say that LJ looked really really bad - was running into his blockers, didn't seem to have any burst, just looked very tentative. For those reasons, though, you might be able to get him on the cheap and hope that the LJ of old returns sometime soon.
I don't know how many times LJ ran into his own lineman . He seemed content to pick up 3yrds and go down
 
To pry Turner from my hands, I'm going to need a Westbrook plus a top 15 reciever at this point.

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To add to the thread..

Sell High:

McNabb

Chris Johnson

Buy Low:

Chad Ocho Cinco

Ronnie Brown

 
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thatguy said:
LJ might be a buy low... the Pats run D looked pretty solid. Although I have to say that LJ looked really really bad - was running into his blockers, didn't seem to have any burst, just looked very tentative. For those reasons, though, you might be able to get him on the cheap and hope that the LJ of old returns sometime soon.
:popcorn: :wub: That's what happens when there are no holes to run through. Did you expect him to go into "ghost mode" and go right through them?
 
Torry Holt should be on this list. I'm just not sure if he is a buy low or sell high. I'd like to think STL isn't as bad as they looked today, but at some point I need to face reality.

 
thatguy said:
LJ might be a buy low... the Pats run D looked pretty solid. Although I have to say that LJ looked really really bad - was running into his blockers, didn't seem to have any burst, just looked very tentative. For those reasons, though, you might be able to get him on the cheap and hope that the LJ of old returns sometime soon.
:wall: :no: That's what happens when there are no holes to run through. Did you expect him to go into "ghost mode" and go right through them?
Oh, I don't know, I guess I was hoping he'd try to do what good RBs do and make something from nothing instead of being content to get nothing. Honestly, he looked pathetic to me at times just running into the backs of his line and going down - sure, if he tried to bounce it outside he may not have done any better, but he didn't even bother.
 
Bristol said:
yinzer said:
Turner is NOT a sell high. I dont care how bad the Lions are, you dont just average 10 yards a carry without skill or a decent OLine
Sounds like a Turner owner who is drinking the Kool Aid! He is a sell high.
Nope, I dont think I have him on any 8 teams, maybe 1, but none of my serious leaguesIm not saying expect 200 yards a game from him, but they did everything this offseason to benefit him - draft OT Baker in the first, get excellent blocking TE Hartsock..Ryan looks like hell be efficient, but this team is centered around TurnerI wish you were in my league..I was trying all week but the owner I think was suspicious all of a sudden why I was pushing so hard for him and decided to wait and see how he looks this week. Oh well
 
Sell high:

Brandon Jacobs (may be able to get the likes of Jones-Drew or LJ)

Donovan McNabb (although I do like McNabb. Could get a starting RB or top WR though if you have nice QB depth)

Buy low:

Chad Ocho Cinco - can't get much worse for this guy.

Maurice Jones-Drew - only got 3 carries but Freddy T didn't play well either. He's also a nice option in their passing game. He's bound to have a monster game one game out of every three.

 
There is no way you are gonna get value out of Turner for anyone you can trade him for. Your not gonna get any of the top backs for him, and anything less at this point is plain stupid if you give him up. We've been pimping this guy for 3 years now, there's a reason for that - He has the ability to be a top 10 Back. Plus he's in a system that will run, run, and then run some more. I really just don't see how you can trade him at this point.

Personal Buy low choices - Cincy players, that offense will turn it around. Steven Jackson is also a prime candidate to buy low as well. He's still rusty.

Sell High - Hines Ward, I love him, but if you can get a comparable younger WR, I'd probably do it.

 
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There is no way you are gonna get value out of Turner for anyone you can trade him for. Your not gonna get any of the top backs for him, and anything less at this point is plain stupid if you give him up. We've been pimping this guy for 3 years now, there's a reason for that - He has the ability to be a top 10 Back. Plus he's in a system that will run, run, and then run some more. I really just don't see how you can trade him at this point.
Agree.
 
Sell high: Brandon Jacobs (may be able to get the likes of Jones-Drew or LJ)
There's no shot I'd take MJD or LJ for Jacobs. I'd overpay to get D.Ward as a cuff (though it'd of been foolish to not get Ward to begin with -- as dirt cheap as he was because of the inflated hype of the COP in Bradshaw -- in your draft).There's one thing the Giants have consistently done for the last several years -- run the football -- no matter who has been back there. Do you really want to pass that up for a guy on a terrible offense and another guy that's been hit/miss over the past year because of a consistent veteran in Taylor.
 
Sell high: Brandon Jacobs (may be able to get the likes of Jones-Drew or LJ)
There's no shot I'd take MJD or LJ for Jacobs. I'd overpay to get D.Ward as a cuff (though it'd of been foolish to not get Ward to begin with -- as dirt cheap as he was because of the inflated hype of the COP in Bradshaw -- in your draft).There's one thing the Giants have consistently done for the last several years -- run the football -- no matter who has been back there. Do you really want to pass that up for a guy on a terrible offense and another guy that's been hit/miss over the past year because of a consistent veteran in Taylor.
 
any of the rams?!?

I haven't seen a whopping that bad to a team with a couple of solid players in a while. That's like a lions whopping. Gotta think SJax could be pried from a guppie fairly cheap. A tory holt even...

 
good luck on selling high on someone like michael turner. what are you going to expect to get back? adrian peterson? not happening. lt2? not happening.

in all seriousness, if you are a turner owner and want to sell high who do you target and why?

as for buying low if you really want TJ Houshmandzadeh, you should be able to get him. Just point out that this effort today follows up a weak second half of 2007 as well and try to sell the fact that most of his stats came in the first half of 2007.

 
good luck on selling high on someone like michael turner. what are you going to expect to get back? adrian peterson? not happening. lt2? not happening. in all seriousness, if you are a turner owner and want to sell high who do you target and why?as for buying low if you really want TJ Houshmandzadeh, you should be able to get him. Just point out that this effort today follows up a weak second half of 2007 as well and try to sell the fact that most of his stats came in the first half of 2007.
I would look for WR or QB help.Roster: QB - Garrard, SchaubRB - ADP, Jacobs, Turner, Perry, CJ3, JacksonWR - Wayne, CJ2, Roddy White, Chambers, Walter, Williams, BJohnsonTE - O.Daniels, UtechtK - GrahamDST - Buffalo, NO1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1R/W,1TE,1K,1DSTThough I could hope to sell CJ3 high to the right owner. Opportunity to franchise tag him in my league.
 
Sell high: Brandon Jacobs (may be able to get the likes of Jones-Drew or LJ)
There's no shot I'd take MJD or LJ for Jacobs. I'd overpay to get D.Ward as a cuff (though it'd of been foolish to not get Ward to begin with -- as dirt cheap as he was because of the inflated hype of the COP in Bradshaw -- in your draft).There's one thing the Giants have consistently done for the last several years -- run the football -- no matter who has been back there. Do you really want to pass that up for a guy on a terrible offense and another guy that's been hit/miss over the past year because of a consistent veteran in Taylor.
Jacobs is solid and is going to get around 75 a game I think. However, I believe he is injury prone due to his running style and has serious threat from Ward and Bradshaw for carries. Look at last year, when the Giants got behind Jacobs was taken out. Therefore, given his recent nice game, I'd prefer to take a guy who has been a top 10 back the last two years in MJD or a guy with a great history of having monster seasons who is the focal point of his offense and will get 350 plus carries.
 
If you have Rivers, see what you can get from the guy who was counting on Brady, Bulger or Palmer. Seems like you could do pretty nice.

 
yinzer said:
Turner is NOT a sell high. I dont care how bad the Lions are, you dont just average 10 yards a carry without skill or a decent OLine
You don't make an NFL roster without skill. 10ypc is nice, but sample size?Others make a good point about not getting an elite back for him, but it is of course roster dependant. If you're deep at RB and weak at QB/WR, I'd sure consider upgrading those positions if I could get an Earnest Graham or somebody in return.
 
Buy low on LJ. Like last year, it'll get better as the season goes on. The OL is a work-in-progress, and Branden Albert looked VERY good against Richard Seymour. At New England as the first game of the season isn't a nice start. It's not like 90 total yards is terrible, either, yet I'm sure many owners will want to ship him off because he didn't put up 150-2 in his first game.

 
Sell high (in PPR leagues): Reggie Bush. Pray that someone comes after him in awe of his highlights.

Today is his absolute ceiling. A few carries at less than four yards per, and a good receiving game. Only most weeks he won't bust the long catches for TDs.

 
Wonder if people suggested people sell Moss last year after week 1.

I don't get the "sell high week 1". If you liked a guy, drafted him, and he blows up, doesn't that mean you did a good job? You got a guy who will out perform his ADP. Got great value? Now you cut bait?

Trade him? For a guy who struggled week 1? I'd love to see people suggesting you trade Turner, Moss, Parker, Mcnabb to post the deals they make. :crickets:

 
Sell High: Rosario
That would involve having him on your roster before this week. Looking at Yahoo, which I know isn't the source for the most informed owners, he's rostered in 0% of leagues (I'm guessing the real number is between .1% and .5%.Buy Low:PortisColstonChris PerryWarnerPalmerJones DrewSantonio HolmesSell High:DeShawn JacksonRandy MossSantana MossHines Ward
 
Wonder if people suggested people sell Moss last year after week 1.I don't get the "sell high week 1". If you liked a guy, drafted him, and he blows up, doesn't that mean you did a good job? You got a guy who will out perform his ADP. Got great value? Now you cut bait?Trade him? For a guy who struggled week 1? I'd love to see people suggesting you trade Turner, Moss, Parker, Mcnabb to post the deals they make. :crickets:
Sell high = get rid of guys who just did well and likely won't again (in your opinion).I didn't draft Bush. I would suggest owners sell high, because the sharks know they'll be lucky to get that many points out of him again all season.
 
Sell high (in PPR leagues): Reggie Bush. Pray that someone comes after him in awe of his highlights. Today is his absolute ceiling. A few carries at less than four yards per, and a good receiving game. Only most weeks he won't bust the long catches for TDs.
Maybe that is his ceiling, but in PPR leagues his floor is so high I see little reason dealing him. Who are you looking to get in return? Frankly I'd never deal Bush in a PPR league. I'd rather roll with him as the RB2 pick I took him with this year. He's the only RB IMO that was available to those of us drafting in the back of the pack (10-12) in PPR leagues that can equal or surpass the elite RB's in the league this year.---------------------------------------------(Edit: I just don't expect a Jackson owner, for example, to offer him up for Bush straight up because of a 1 week performance. More likely (because he took Jackson 3,4,or 5, he'll want a decent upgrade elsewhere -- something I'm not willing to do).
 
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Buy:

DeSean Jackson. Yes, you read that right. Jackson is the Eagles' starting flanker and at this point, it's his job. he's the first rookie WR to start in 10 years for Reid. Brown/Curtis are going to be fighting for the spot opposite him. He made heady veteran-like plays, and absolutely is the guy the Eagles needed at the WR spot. And if you get points for returns, he has even more value.

Dante Rosario: In 99+% of leagues, he's on waivers. carolina likes to throw to the TE & Smith is out another week. In the highest pressure situation - game on the line, need a TD no time left, he delivered. You can't buy lower than "on waivers".

Martin Gramatica: The Saints will score, and he's the kicker. On waivers in lots of leagues.

Matt Cassell: Likely on waivers. Throws to the NE receiving corps. Bad preseason, but could be worth a shot.

Sell:

Reggie Bush (non-PPR): In PPR he's a keeper, but in non-PPR, you might be able to upgrade.

Santana Moss: It's not him, it's the pass offense in general. Campbell looked bad, and Zorn looked worse. He got a TD this week, so stats don't look so bad.

 
two_dollars said:
To pry Turner from my hands, I'm going to need a Westbrook plus a top 15 reciever at this point. :wub: :loco:To add to the thread..Sell High:McNabbChris JohnsonBuy Low:Chad Ocho CincoRonnie Brown
why in the world would think about selling Chris Johnson? If anything he should be on anyones buy list while there's still the slimmest chance you may snag him.
 
Buy low on LJ. Like last year, it'll get better as the season goes on. The OL is a work-in-progress, and Branden Albert looked VERY good against Richard Seymour. At New England as the first game of the season isn't a nice start. It's not like 90 total yards is terrible, either, yet I'm sure many owners will want to ship him off because he didn't put up 150-2 in his first game.
I don't know how you could expect much more playing the all world Pats at home...
 
Sell high (in PPR leagues): Reggie Bush. Pray that someone comes after him in awe of his highlights. Today is his absolute ceiling. A few carries at less than four yards per, and a good receiving game. Only most weeks he won't bust the long catches for TDs.
Maybe that is his ceiling, but in PPR leagues his floor is so high I see little reason dealing him. Who are you looking to get in return? Frankly I'd never deal Bush in a PPR league. I'd rather roll with him as the RB2 pick I took him with this year. He's the only RB IMO that was available to those of us drafting in the back of the pack (10-12) in PPR leagues that can equal or surpass the elite RB's in the league this year.---------------------------------------------(Edit: I just don't expect a Jackson owner, for example, to offer him up for Bush straight up because of a 1 week performance. More likely (because he took Jackson 3,4,or 5, he'll want a decent upgrade elsewhere -- something I'm not willing to do).
Complete blunder on my part. Meant NON-PPR for the reasons you state. :rolleyes:
 

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