I don't know how many times LJ ran into his own lineman . He seemed content to pick up 3yrds and go downAlthough I have to say that LJ looked really really bad - was running into his blockers, didn't seem to have any burst, just looked very tentative. For those reasons, though, you might be able to get him on the cheap and hope that the LJ of old returns sometime soon.
Sounds like a Turner owner who is drinking the Kool Aid! He is a sell high.Turner is NOT a sell high. I dont care how bad the Lions are, you dont just average 10 yards a carry without skill or a decent OLine
I have a feeling that this thread will turn in to whether Turner is a sell high or not.High:M Turner
thatguy said:LJ might be a buy low... the Pats run D looked pretty solid. Although I have to say that LJ looked really really bad - was running into his blockers, didn't seem to have any burst, just looked very tentative. For those reasons, though, you might be able to get him on the cheap and hope that the LJ of old returns sometime soon.
Bengals are a bad bad teamlebowski said:Palmer buy low.
Sell high, Willie Parker and McNabb. I have McNabb and am going to try to trade him.Bengals are a bad bad teamlebowski said:Palmer buy low.
Oh, I don't know, I guess I was hoping he'd try to do what good RBs do and make something from nothing instead of being content to get nothing. Honestly, he looked pathetic to me at times just running into the backs of his line and going down - sure, if he tried to bounce it outside he may not have done any better, but he didn't even bother.thatguy said:LJ might be a buy low... the Pats run D looked pretty solid. Although I have to say that LJ looked really really bad - was running into his blockers, didn't seem to have any burst, just looked very tentative. For those reasons, though, you might be able to get him on the cheap and hope that the LJ of old returns sometime soon.![]()
That's what happens when there are no holes to run through. Did you expect him to go into "ghost mode" and go right through them?
Nope, I dont think I have him on any 8 teams, maybe 1, but none of my serious leaguesIm not saying expect 200 yards a game from him, but they did everything this offseason to benefit him - draft OT Baker in the first, get excellent blocking TE Hartsock..Ryan looks like hell be efficient, but this team is centered around TurnerI wish you were in my league..I was trying all week but the owner I think was suspicious all of a sudden why I was pushing so hard for him and decided to wait and see how he looks this week. Oh wellBristol said:Sounds like a Turner owner who is drinking the Kool Aid! He is a sell high.yinzer said:Turner is NOT a sell high. I dont care how bad the Lions are, you dont just average 10 yards a carry without skill or a decent OLine
Agree.There is no way you are gonna get value out of Turner for anyone you can trade him for. Your not gonna get any of the top backs for him, and anything less at this point is plain stupid if you give him up. We've been pimping this guy for 3 years now, there's a reason for that - He has the ability to be a top 10 Back. Plus he's in a system that will run, run, and then run some more. I really just don't see how you can trade him at this point.
There's no shot I'd take MJD or LJ for Jacobs. I'd overpay to get D.Ward as a cuff (though it'd of been foolish to not get Ward to begin with -- as dirt cheap as he was because of the inflated hype of the COP in Bradshaw -- in your draft).There's one thing the Giants have consistently done for the last several years -- run the football -- no matter who has been back there. Do you really want to pass that up for a guy on a terrible offense and another guy that's been hit/miss over the past year because of a consistent veteran in Taylor.Sell high: Brandon Jacobs (may be able to get the likes of Jones-Drew or LJ)
There's no shot I'd take MJD or LJ for Jacobs. I'd overpay to get D.Ward as a cuff (though it'd of been foolish to not get Ward to begin with -- as dirt cheap as he was because of the inflated hype of the COP in Bradshaw -- in your draft).There's one thing the Giants have consistently done for the last several years -- run the football -- no matter who has been back there. Do you really want to pass that up for a guy on a terrible offense and another guy that's been hit/miss over the past year because of a consistent veteran in Taylor.Sell high: Brandon Jacobs (may be able to get the likes of Jones-Drew or LJ)
I would look for WR or QB help.Roster: QB - Garrard, SchaubRB - ADP, Jacobs, Turner, Perry, CJ3, JacksonWR - Wayne, CJ2, Roddy White, Chambers, Walter, Williams, BJohnsonTE - O.Daniels, UtechtK - GrahamDST - Buffalo, NO1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1R/W,1TE,1K,1DSTThough I could hope to sell CJ3 high to the right owner. Opportunity to franchise tag him in my league.good luck on selling high on someone like michael turner. what are you going to expect to get back? adrian peterson? not happening. lt2? not happening. in all seriousness, if you are a turner owner and want to sell high who do you target and why?as for buying low if you really want TJ Houshmandzadeh, you should be able to get him. Just point out that this effort today follows up a weak second half of 2007 as well and try to sell the fact that most of his stats came in the first half of 2007.
Jacobs is solid and is going to get around 75 a game I think. However, I believe he is injury prone due to his running style and has serious threat from Ward and Bradshaw for carries. Look at last year, when the Giants got behind Jacobs was taken out. Therefore, given his recent nice game, I'd prefer to take a guy who has been a top 10 back the last two years in MJD or a guy with a great history of having monster seasons who is the focal point of his offense and will get 350 plus carries.There's no shot I'd take MJD or LJ for Jacobs. I'd overpay to get D.Ward as a cuff (though it'd of been foolish to not get Ward to begin with -- as dirt cheap as he was because of the inflated hype of the COP in Bradshaw -- in your draft).There's one thing the Giants have consistently done for the last several years -- run the football -- no matter who has been back there. Do you really want to pass that up for a guy on a terrible offense and another guy that's been hit/miss over the past year because of a consistent veteran in Taylor.Sell high: Brandon Jacobs (may be able to get the likes of Jones-Drew or LJ)
You don't make an NFL roster without skill. 10ypc is nice, but sample size?Others make a good point about not getting an elite back for him, but it is of course roster dependant. If you're deep at RB and weak at QB/WR, I'd sure consider upgrading those positions if I could get an Earnest Graham or somebody in return.yinzer said:Turner is NOT a sell high. I dont care how bad the Lions are, you dont just average 10 yards a carry without skill or a decent OLine
:IBTL:lebowski said:Palmer buy low.
That would involve having him on your roster before this week. Looking at Yahoo, which I know isn't the source for the most informed owners, he's rostered in 0% of leagues (I'm guessing the real number is between .1% and .5%.Buy LowSell High: Rosario
Sell high = get rid of guys who just did well and likely won't again (in your opinion).I didn't draft Bush. I would suggest owners sell high, because the sharks know they'll be lucky to get that many points out of him again all season.Wonder if people suggested people sell Moss last year after week 1.I don't get the "sell high week 1". If you liked a guy, drafted him, and he blows up, doesn't that mean you did a good job? You got a guy who will out perform his ADP. Got great value? Now you cut bait?Trade him? For a guy who struggled week 1? I'd love to see people suggesting you trade Turner, Moss, Parker, Mcnabb to post the deals they make. :crickets:
That would involve having him on your roster before this week. Looking at Yahoo, which I know isn't the source for the most informed owners, he's rostered in 0% of leagues (I'm guessing the real number is between .1% and .5%.Buy Low:Sell High: Rosario
Portis
Colston
Chris Perry
Warner
Palmer
Jones Drew
Santonio Holmes
Sell High:
DeShawn Jackson
Randy Moss
Santana Moss
Hines Ward
Maybe that is his ceiling, but in PPR leagues his floor is so high I see little reason dealing him. Who are you looking to get in return? Frankly I'd never deal Bush in a PPR league. I'd rather roll with him as the RB2 pick I took him with this year. He's the only RB IMO that was available to those of us drafting in the back of the pack (10-12) in PPR leagues that can equal or surpass the elite RB's in the league this year.---------------------------------------------(Edit: I just don't expect a Jackson owner, for example, to offer him up for Bush straight up because of a 1 week performance. More likely (because he took Jackson 3,4,or 5, he'll want a decent upgrade elsewhere -- something I'm not willing to do).Sell high (in PPR leagues): Reggie Bush. Pray that someone comes after him in awe of his highlights. Today is his absolute ceiling. A few carries at less than four yards per, and a good receiving game. Only most weeks he won't bust the long catches for TDs.
why in the world would think about selling Chris Johnson? If anything he should be on anyones buy list while there's still the slimmest chance you may snag him.two_dollars said:To pry Turner from my hands, I'm going to need a Westbrook plus a top 15 reciever at this point.![]()
To add to the thread..Sell High:McNabbChris JohnsonBuy Low:Chad Ocho CincoRonnie Brown
I don't know how you could expect much more playing the all world Pats at home...Buy low on LJ. Like last year, it'll get better as the season goes on. The OL is a work-in-progress, and Branden Albert looked VERY good against Richard Seymour. At New England as the first game of the season isn't a nice start. It's not like 90 total yards is terrible, either, yet I'm sure many owners will want to ship him off because he didn't put up 150-2 in his first game.
Complete blunder on my part. Meant NON-PPR for the reasons you state.Maybe that is his ceiling, but in PPR leagues his floor is so high I see little reason dealing him. Who are you looking to get in return? Frankly I'd never deal Bush in a PPR league. I'd rather roll with him as the RB2 pick I took him with this year. He's the only RB IMO that was available to those of us drafting in the back of the pack (10-12) in PPR leagues that can equal or surpass the elite RB's in the league this year.---------------------------------------------(Edit: I just don't expect a Jackson owner, for example, to offer him up for Bush straight up because of a 1 week performance. More likely (because he took Jackson 3,4,or 5, he'll want a decent upgrade elsewhere -- something I'm not willing to do).Sell high (in PPR leagues): Reggie Bush. Pray that someone comes after him in awe of his highlights. Today is his absolute ceiling. A few carries at less than four yards per, and a good receiving game. Only most weeks he won't bust the long catches for TDs.