Sell High on Bradshaw? (1 Viewer)

[shadyridr]

sold yesterday for Nicks and Chris Johnson. already regretting it.

i sold him and torrey for julio two weeks ago. huge mistake. dont repeat my errors

 

[Biabreakable]

I would sell him in dynasty formats for a player of similar caliber but more entrenched role/pedigree. While Bradshaw is 26 right now and in his prime, I do worry about the multiple injuries with him and I do see Wilson having a bigger role in the offense next season. I also see the Giants drafting another power RB in the near future.

In redraft I would keep him. Not that many RB starting right now who are outperforming him.

 

[Steelers4Life]

I would sell him in dynasty formats for a player of similar caliber but more entrenched role/pedigree. While Bradshaw is 26 right now and in his prime, I do worry about the multiple injuries with him and I do see Wilson having a bigger role in the offense next season. I also see the Giants drafting another power RB in the near future.In redraft I would keep him. Not that many RB starting right now who are outperforming him.

I traded him weeks ago for what I expect to be a top 2 pick in next year's draft.I liked the deal then, my team hasn't missed a beat, and I like the deal now, too.

 

[netnalp]

@NotoriousOHM

Ahmad Bradshaw will not practice today. Coughlin says he will practice tomorrow. Says same foot issue from past.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

On the heels of the Bradshaw injury, Andre Brown has passed his concussion tests and is cleared to play.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

On the heels of the Bradshaw injury, Andre Brown has passed his concussion tests and is cleared to play.

so who gets the bulk if no Bradshaw? Brown or Wilson?

 

[godgers12]

Brown

 

[Clifford]

Bradshaw will play week 7 and get 70% of the team's carries.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I still think it's Bradshaw in the short term getting extra practices off regularly, but as the season wears on the opportunity is there for either Brown or Wilson. But Brown seems like the kneejerk reaction beneficiary if Bradshaw sits because he knows the Giants offensive system better than the rookie Wilson.

 

[SameSongNDance]

In the event Bradshaw goes down/doesn't play I'm betting it'd be an even split between Brown/Wilson from the onset (not sure why this hasn't been mentioned). Brown would be worth a flex where as Wilson would hold RB2 value (see FJax and Spiller).

 

[netnalp]

Bradshaw will play week 7 and get 70% of the team's carries.

Probably but for how many more weeks. As a Giants fan I wish they hadn't kept him in during garbage time for the Browns game. Should have sat him in garbage time.

 

[Concept Coop]

In the event Bradshaw goes down/doesn't play I'm betting it'd be an even split between Brown/Wilson (not sure why this hasn't been mentioned). Brown would be worth a flex where as Wilson would hold RB2 value (see FJax and Spiller).

This just isn't true or likely. Even with Brown out, they havn't increased Wilson's touches - he got 5 that he wouldn't have last week, had Bradshaw not started cramping. We have already seen what happens when Bradshaw goes out, have we not? It was far from a 50/50 split. We haven't seen Wilson in pass protection at all this season, and why do you think taht is? They are not relying on Wilson to protect the franchise - it's just not happening this year.And I am a Wilson owner, who does not own Brown anywhere.

 

[SameSongNDance]

In the event Bradshaw goes down/doesn't play I'm betting it'd be an even split between Brown/Wilson (not sure why this hasn't been mentioned). Brown would be worth a flex where as Wilson would hold RB2 value (see FJax and Spiller).

This just isn't true or likely. Even with Brown out, they havn't increased Wilson's touches - he got 5 that he wouldn't have last week, had Bradshaw not started cramping. We have already seen what happens when Bradshaw goes out, have we not? It was far from a 50/50 split. We haven't seen Wilson in pass protection at all this season, and why do you think taht is? They are not relying on Wilson to protect the franchise - it's just not happening this year.And I am a Wilson owner, who does not own Brown anywhere.

I don't see how this is the same situation as it was 5 weeks ago. Brown isn't the same talent Bradshaw is, I'm not sure how Wilson wouldn't get more touches in the event Bradshaw didn't play.

 

[Concept Coop]

I don't see how this is the same situation as it was 5 weeks ago. Brown isn't the same talent Bradshaw is, I'm not sure how Wilson wouldn't get more touches in the event Bradshaw didn't play.

I know you like his talent - hell, I know the Giants do too - but they have been very straight forward here. Brown did a damn good job filling in, and they haven't increased Wilson's role, at all, all season long, even with Brown down. Brown got more carries than Wilson, even when Bradshaw started. What more do you need to see?And we don't need to look back 5 weeks to see how they want to use Wilson. We can use any and every week to this point.

 

[steelwind]

Isn't this the Sell High on Bradshaw thread? I think that window of opportunity is now gone with the recent news today.

 

[SameSongNDance]

I don't see how this is the same situation as it was 5 weeks ago. Brown isn't the same talent Bradshaw is, I'm not sure how Wilson wouldn't get more touches in the event Bradshaw didn't play.

I know you like his talent - hell, I know the Giants do too - but that have been very straight forward here. Brown did a damn good job filling in, and they haven't increased Wilson's role, at all, all season long, even with Brown down. Brown got more carries than Wilson, even when Bradshaw started. What more do you need to see?And we don't need to look back 5 weeks to see how they want to use Wilson. We can use any and every week to this point.

Week 7 I suppose. I'll say we don't know either way and it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. My stance here is far from radical though. I'm not the first and won't be the last one who thinks Wilson has earned an increased role and is now at least 2B to Brown's 2A.If there's even a shot he sees between 10-12 touches a game he should be rostered in all leagues.

 

[Concept Coop]

Isn't this the Sell High on Bradshaw thread? I think that window of opportunity is now gone with the recent news today.

That he is missing a practice? Bradshaw has always missed practice due to his feet, and always suited up to play. If we lowered the value of every RB that misses a practice, there wouldn't be any starting RBs left to value highly.ETA: If owners are worried, we should be buying low. I recall hearing in 2010 - his best season to date - he didn't practice at all, just suited up on Sunday's and produced.

 

[steelwind]

Isn't this the Sell High on Bradshaw thread? I think that window of opportunity is now gone with the recent news today.

That he is missing a practice? Bradshaw has always missed practice due to his feet, and always suited up to play. If we lowered the value of every RB that misses a practice, there wouldn't be any starting RBs left to value highly.

His sell high value peaked in week 5 and week 6 before news of him missing practice due to his chronic broken foot. Don't try to persuade me that his peak value is still there after this news. If you are trying to sell me Bradshaw right now I would counter and say trading for him is definitely an injury risk and ask you to lower the price. It's just stocks dude. Wake up.

 

[netnalp]

Isn't this the Sell High on Bradshaw thread? I think that window of opportunity is now gone with the recent news today.

That he is missing a practice? Bradshaw has always missed practice due to his feet, and always suited up to play. If we lowered the value of every RB that misses a practice, there wouldn't be any starting RBs left to value highly.

I see it as a sell sign to those that are concerned and want to get out before leaguemates hear about it.Use the info to buy low if you're not worried.Personally, I think it means he'll probably go back to the once a week practice or only do walk-throughs. I would expect he doesn't get the garbage time carries that he had been. I am concerned he may miss 2-4 games if less practice and no garbage time carries doesn't help.

 

[Concept Coop]

Isn't this the Sell High on Bradshaw thread? I think that window of opportunity is now gone with the recent news today.

That he is missing a practice? Bradshaw has always missed practice due to his feet, and always suited up to play. If we lowered the value of every RB that misses a practice, there wouldn't be any starting RBs left to value highly.

His sell high value peaked in week 5 and week 6 before news of him missing practice due to his chronic broken foot. Don't try to persuade me that his peak value is still there after this news. If you are trying to sell me Bradshaw right now I would counter and say trading for him is definitely an injury risk and ask you to lower the price. It's just stocks dude. Wake up.

I'm awake, and am familiar with his injury history. Him missing one practice isn't an issue - he isn't even listed as questionable. He is practicing tomorrow. Do you know how often starting RBs miss practice? Peak value isn't what we are talking about. We are talking about actual value vs. market value. He is a very solid RB1 the rest of they, yet, due to his name, isn't quite valued as such. Every RB is an injury risk. At least with Bradshaw we have a productive backdup whose only value is as a handcuff.

 

[Islanders rule]

Nothing to see hear. If anyone sells Bradshaw cheap they will regret it.

 

[Concept Coop]

I see it as a sell sign to those that are concerned and want to get out before leaguemates hear about it.Use the info to buy low if you're not worried.Personally, I think it means he'll probably go back to the once a week practice or only do walk-throughs. I would expect he doesn't get the garbage time carries that he had been. I am concerned he may miss 2-4 games if less practice and no garbage time carries doesn't help.

He is resting a hurt foot - as Steven Jackson says, no RB is healhty after the first week. He isn't questionable, and will practice tomorrow. How can we logically predict him missing games - let alone put a number on it?Arian Foster missed practice this year, Peterson did last week. It just happens.

 

[ponchsox]

I'm not worried about Bradshaw missing practice but this is a good time to grab Brown if he's available.

 

[netnalp]

I see it as a sell sign to those that are concerned and want to get out before leaguemates hear about it.Use the info to buy low if you're not worried.Personally, I think it means he'll probably go back to the once a week practice or only do walk-throughs. I would expect he doesn't get the garbage time carries that he had been. I am concerned he may miss 2-4 games if less practice and no garbage time carries doesn't help.

He is resting a hurt foot - as Steven Jackson says, no RB is healhty after the first week. He isn't questionable, and will practice tomorrow. How can we logically predict him missing games - let alone put a number on it?Arian Foster missed practice this year, Peterson did last week. It just happens.

He's only played 16 games once. I'm not saying he will for sure miss some games but I am worried he will.

 

[kencav]

Nothing to see hear. If anyone sells Bradshaw cheap they will regret it.

Says the Bradshaw owner not rostering Brown or Wilson.....

 

[jackdubl]

I sold Bradshaw and Stevie Johnson for McCoy and Nicks. I had to do it.

 

[Concept Coop]

Nothing to see hear. If anyone sells Bradshaw cheap they will regret it.

Says the Bradshaw owner not rostering Brown or Wilson.....

Says the Brown and or Wilson owner...

 

[Chaka]

I don't see how this is the same situation as it was 5 weeks ago. Brown isn't the same talent Bradshaw is, I'm not sure how Wilson wouldn't get more touches in the event Bradshaw didn't play.

I know you like his talent - hell, I know the Giants do too - but that have been very straight forward here. Brown did a damn good job filling in, and they haven't increased Wilson's role, at all, all season long, even with Brown down. Brown got more carries than Wilson, even when Bradshaw started. What more do you need to see?And we don't need to look back 5 weeks to see how they want to use Wilson. We can use any and every week to this point.

Week 7 I suppose. I'll say we don't know either way and it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. My stance here is far from radical though. I'm not the first and won't be the last one who thinks Wilson has earned an increased role and is now at least 2B to Brown's 2A.If there's even a shot he sees between 10-12 touches a game he should be rostered in all leagues.

Not sure what Wilson has done to see an increased role. He broke a big run in the 4th quarter against a defense that had been crushed all day long. That's not much information to make the statement that he will be a 2B.Wilson has been doing very well as a return man, which in no way relates to playing RB, and it looks like that is where his value currently is and likely will remain for the Giants. They have a very capable backup who they have demonstrated faith in and he has demonstrated his value on the field at the RB position.

I like Wilson's potential as much as anyone (drafted him in a redraft) but I wouldn't hold out for those 10-12 touches from the RB position unless you think that the Giants will clinch their playoff seed early or you think both Bradshaw and Brown will get hurt.

 

[Chaka]

Sell. Yesterday was the highwater mark and production will be up and down the rest of the way (and never approach what we saw yesterday).

I did say up and down. Still there is no arguing his incredible performance against the vaunted niner D in their house. Perhaps he will be a consistent producer the rest of the way.

 

[MacAvery]

I don't see how this is the same situation as it was 5 weeks ago. Brown isn't the same talent Bradshaw is, I'm not sure how Wilson wouldn't get more touches in the event Bradshaw didn't play.

I know you like his talent - hell, I know the Giants do too - but that have been very straight forward here. Brown did a damn good job filling in, and they haven't increased Wilson's role, at all, all season long, even with Brown down. Brown got more carries than Wilson, even when Bradshaw started. What more do you need to see?And we don't need to look back 5 weeks to see how they want to use Wilson. We can use any and every week to this point.

Week 7 I suppose. I'll say we don't know either way and it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. My stance here is far from radical though. I'm not the first and won't be the last one who thinks Wilson has earned an increased role and is now at least 2B to Brown's 2A.If there's even a shot he sees between 10-12 touches a game he should be rostered in all leagues.

Even if both Brown and Bradshaw were out, many feel that Scott would be in line for feature back duties and not Wilson.Don't think we've seen anything to indicate Wilson is anything other than COP.

 

[netnalp]

I don't see how this is the same situation as it was 5 weeks ago. Brown isn't the same talent Bradshaw is, I'm not sure how Wilson wouldn't get more touches in the event Bradshaw didn't play.

I know you like his talent - hell, I know the Giants do too - but that have been very straight forward here. Brown did a damn good job filling in, and they haven't increased Wilson's role, at all, all season long, even with Brown down. Brown got more carries than Wilson, even when Bradshaw started. What more do you need to see?And we don't need to look back 5 weeks to see how they want to use Wilson. We can use any and every week to this point.

Week 7 I suppose. I'll say we don't know either way and it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. My stance here is far from radical though. I'm not the first and won't be the last one who thinks Wilson has earned an increased role and is now at least 2B to Brown's 2A.If there's even a shot he sees between 10-12 touches a game he should be rostered in all leagues.

Even if both Brown and Bradshaw were out, many feel that Scott would be in line for feature back duties and not Wilson.Don't think we've seen anything to indicate Wilson is anything other than COP.

Injury report: Scott undergoes surgery"Running back Da'Rel Scott underwent a procedure to repair his right meniscus and could be out for several weeks."

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Most likely he goes on IR when Canty is ready to be placed on the active roster.

 

[steelwind]

Isn't this the Sell High on Bradshaw thread? I think that window of opportunity is now gone with the recent news today.

That he is missing a practice? Bradshaw has always missed practice due to his feet, and always suited up to play. If we lowered the value of every RB that misses a practice, there wouldn't be any starting RBs left to value highly.

His sell high value peaked in week 5 and week 6 before news of him missing practice due to his chronic broken foot. Don't try to persuade me that his peak value is still there after this news. If you are trying to sell me Bradshaw right now I would counter and say trading for him is definitely an injury risk and ask you to lower the price. It's just stocks dude. Wake up.

I'm awake, and am familiar with his injury history. Him missing one practice isn't an issue - he isn't even listed as questionable. He is practicing tomorrow. Do you know how often starting RBs miss practice? Peak value isn't what we are talking about. We are talking about actual value vs. market value. He is a very solid RB1 the rest of they, yet, due to his name, isn't quite valued as such. Every RB is an injury risk. At least with Bradshaw we have a productive backdup whose only value is as a handcuff.

Starting RBs miss practice but their coaches confirm that they will start. However, Bradshaw's coach didn't confirm that. He missed practice again today after being limited yesterday. He's not going to carry a full load anymore. While you argue over common sense about every RB is an injury risk. I'm merely pointing out that you will no longer be able to sell Bradshaw at his "sell high" value in week 5 after he exploded for 200 yards. Hence my original post "that window of opportunity is now gone". He's now questionable to play. Coach Tom Coughlin was noncommittal about Ahmad Bradshaw's (questionable, foot) Week 7 status following Friday's missed practice."He worked yesterday, he was a little sore today," Coughlin said. "We're trying to get him to a point game day where he's healthy." Bradshaw's missed session doesn't quite indicate a full-on setback, but it's not a great sign that he's no longer able to string together practices. It was pretty predictable that his foot problems would pop back up after his last two weeks' workloads.

 

[Concept Coop]

Isn't this the Sell High on Bradshaw thread? I think that window of opportunity is now gone with the recent news today.

That he is missing a practice? Bradshaw has always missed practice due to his feet, and always suited up to play. If we lowered the value of every RB that misses a practice, there wouldn't be any starting RBs left to value highly.

His sell high value peaked in week 5 and week 6 before news of him missing practice due to his chronic broken foot. Don't try to persuade me that his peak value is still there after this news. If you are trying to sell me Bradshaw right now I would counter and say trading for him is definitely an injury risk and ask you to lower the price. It's just stocks dude. Wake up.

I'm awake, and am familiar with his injury history. Him missing one practice isn't an issue - he isn't even listed as questionable. He is practicing tomorrow. Do you know how often starting RBs miss practice? Peak value isn't what we are talking about. We are talking about actual value vs. market value. He is a very solid RB1 the rest of they, yet, due to his name, isn't quite valued as such. Every RB is an injury risk. At least with Bradshaw we have a productive backdup whose only value is as a handcuff.

Starting RBs miss practice but their coaches confirm that they will start. However, Bradshaw's coach didn't confirm that. He missed practice again today after being limited yesterday. He's not going to carry a full load anymore. While you argue over common sense about every RB is an injury risk. I'm merely pointing out that you will no longer be able to sell Bradshaw at his "sell high" value in week 5 after he exploded for 200 yards. Hence my original post "that window of opportunity is now gone". He's now questionable to play. Coach Tom Coughlin was noncommittal about Ahmad Bradshaw's (questionable, foot) Week 7 status following Friday's missed practice."He worked yesterday, he was a little sore today," Coughlin said. "We're trying to get him to a point game day where he's healthy." Bradshaw's missed session doesn't quite indicate a full-on setback, but it's not a great sign that he's no longer able to string together practices. It was pretty predictable that his foot problems would pop back up after his last two weeks' workloads.

I'm going to wait 2 days, hopefully for news supporting my opinion, then will respond as if I knew it all along.

 

[SameSongNDance]

I don't see how this is the same situation as it was 5 weeks ago. Brown isn't the same talent Bradshaw is, I'm not sure how Wilson wouldn't get more touches in the event Bradshaw didn't play.

I know you like his talent - hell, I know the Giants do too - but that have been very straight forward here. Brown did a damn good job filling in, and they haven't increased Wilson's role, at all, all season long, even with Brown down. Brown got more carries than Wilson, even when Bradshaw started. What more do you need to see?And we don't need to look back 5 weeks to see how they want to use Wilson. We can use any and every week to this point.

Week 7 I suppose. I'll say we don't know either way and it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. My stance here is far from radical though. I'm not the first and won't be the last one who thinks Wilson has earned an increased role and is now at least 2B to Brown's 2A.If there's even a shot he sees between 10-12 touches a game he should be rostered in all leagues.

Not sure what Wilson has done to see an increased role. He broke a big run in the 4th quarter against a defense that had been crushed all day long. That's not much information to make the statement that he will be a 2B.Wilson has been doing very well as a return man, which in no way relates to playing RB, and it looks like that is where his value currently is and likely will remain for the Giants. They have a very capable backup who they have demonstrated faith in and he has demonstrated his value on the field at the RB position.

I like Wilson's potential as much as anyone (drafted him in a redraft) but I wouldn't hold out for those 10-12 touches from the RB position unless you think that the Giants will clinch their playoff seed early or you think both Bradshaw and Brown will get hurt.

It's what he hasn't done, and that's fumbled. How soon we forget that Wilson was on his way to seeing a relevant sized workload before he fumbled in the opening game of the season. Even if Wilson is purely a CoP back, which I don't believe he is, is it that crazy that he sees 10-12 touches (not carries)? The coaching staff themselves haven't exactly ruled out the possibility of a heavier workload..

Giants OC Kevin Gilbride was noncommittal when asked if RB David Wilson would get more opportunities in the near future.

"We'll see," said Gilbride. "He's progressing in some things, but some things he has a ways to go. He's got a lot of room for growth." Gilbride was responding in a measured tone after Newsday's Bob Glauber relayed Wilson's colorful quotes proclaiming himself a future Hall of Famer and "like birth control: 99.9 percent of the time I'm going to come through for you." We still like Wilson as a roster stash, but he's not a recommended fantasy option for Week 7.

As for needing an injury to occur in order for Wilson to hold any value, I agree. However, he does not need both Bradshaw and Brown to go down in order to see 10-12 touches. If they both went down, let's be honest, who else would carry the workload? No, realistically he only needs Bradshaw to go down, as Brown isn't near the talent Bradshaw is. One good game against a porous CAR rush defense does not make a season. I'm still in the "I don't know" camp, but those of you saying Wilson has no shot at seeing an expanded role as the season progresses don't know either. I don't know, you don't know and apparently Gilbride isn't quite sure either.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Isn't this the Sell High on Bradshaw thread? I think that window of opportunity is now gone with the recent news today.

That he is missing a practice? Bradshaw has always missed practice due to his feet, and always suited up to play. If we lowered the value of every RB that misses a practice, there wouldn't be any starting RBs left to value highly.

I see it as a sell sign to those that are concerned and want to get out before leaguemates hear about it.Use the info to buy low if you're not worried.Personally, I think it means he'll probably go back to the once a week practice or only do walk-throughs. I would expect he doesn't get the garbage time carries that he had been. I am concerned he may miss 2-4 games if less practice and no garbage time carries doesn't help.

Alternatively maybe folks should have been buying low on Brown.Hey that waiver wire darling still hasn't been found. .... Yet.

 

[Concept Coop]

As for needing an injury to occur in order for Wilson to hold any value, I agree. However, he does not need both Bradshaw and Brown to go down in order to see 10-12 touches. If they both went down, let's be honest, who else would carry the workload? No, realistically he only needs Bradshaw to go down, as Brown isn't near the talent Bradshaw is. One good game against a porous CAR rush defense does not make a season. I'm still in the "I don't know" camp, but those of you saying Wilson has no shot at seeing an expanded role as the season progresses don't know either. I don't know, you don't know and apparently Gilbride isn't quite sure either.

They have both been down and different times this season - the healhty one got the very large majority of the carries, with Wilson getting about 2-3 carries a game.And how is his statement a possitive for Wilson's playing chances? What do you expect him to say? "No. He can't earn more time. He isn't getting more touches this season."?

 

[SameSongNDance]

As for needing an injury to occur in order for Wilson to hold any value, I agree. However, he does not need both Bradshaw and Brown to go down in order to see 10-12 touches. If they both went down, let's be honest, who else would carry the workload? No, realistically he only needs Bradshaw to go down, as Brown isn't near the talent Bradshaw is. One good game against a porous CAR rush defense does not make a season. I'm still in the "I don't know" camp, but those of you saying Wilson has no shot at seeing an expanded role as the season progresses don't know either. I don't know, you don't know and apparently Gilbride isn't quite sure either.

They have both been down and different times this season - the healhty one got the very large majority of the carries, with Wilson getting about 2-3 carries a game.And how is his statement a possitive for Wilson's playing chances? What do you expect him to say? "No. He can't earn more time. He isn't getting more touches this season."?

When Bradhsaw went down (mid week 2/week 3) Wilson was still deep within Coughlin's doghouse. This is 4-5 weeks later with Brown fresh off of a concussion. I can't imagine the circumstances are still exactly the same.The statement is positive merely because they are acknowledging progressions and the possibilities of an expanded role. If the situation hadn't been different than it was a month ago, that question would never have been asked in the first place.

 

[MacAvery]

I don't see how this is the same situation as it was 5 weeks ago. Brown isn't the same talent Bradshaw is, I'm not sure how Wilson wouldn't get more touches in the event Bradshaw didn't play.

I know you like his talent - hell, I know the Giants do too - but that have been very straight forward here. Brown did a damn good job filling in, and they haven't increased Wilson's role, at all, all season long, even with Brown down. Brown got more carries than Wilson, even when Bradshaw started. What more do you need to see?And we don't need to look back 5 weeks to see how they want to use Wilson. We can use any and every week to this point.

Week 7 I suppose. I'll say we don't know either way and it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. My stance here is far from radical though. I'm not the first and won't be the last one who thinks Wilson has earned an increased role and is now at least 2B to Brown's 2A.If there's even a shot he sees between 10-12 touches a game he should be rostered in all leagues.

Not sure what Wilson has done to see an increased role. He broke a big run in the 4th quarter against a defense that had been crushed all day long. That's not much information to make the statement that he will be a 2B.Wilson has been doing very well as a return man, which in no way relates to playing RB, and it looks like that is where his value currently is and likely will remain for the Giants. They have a very capable backup who they have demonstrated faith in and he has demonstrated his value on the field at the RB position.

I like Wilson's potential as much as anyone (drafted him in a redraft) but I wouldn't hold out for those 10-12 touches from the RB position unless you think that the Giants will clinch their playoff seed early or you think both Bradshaw and Brown will get hurt.

It's what he hasn't done, and that's fumbled. How soon we forget that Wilson was on his way to seeing a relevant sized workload before he fumbled in the opening game of the season. Even if Wilson is purely a CoP back, which I don't believe he is, is it that crazy that he sees 10-12 touches (not carries)? The coaching staff themselves haven't exactly ruled out the possibility of a heavier workload..

Giants OC Kevin Gilbride was noncommittal when asked if RB David Wilson would get more opportunities in the near future.

"We'll see," said Gilbride. "He's progressing in some things, but some things he has a ways to go. He's got a lot of room for growth." Gilbride was responding in a measured tone after Newsday's Bob Glauber relayed Wilson's colorful quotes proclaiming himself a future Hall of Famer and "like birth control: 99.9 percent of the time I'm going to come through for you." We still like Wilson as a roster stash, but he's not a recommended fantasy option for Week 7.

As for needing an injury to occur in order for Wilson to hold any value, I agree. However, he does not need both Bradshaw and Brown to go down in order to see 10-12 touches. If they both went down, let's be honest, who else would carry the workload? No, realistically he only needs Bradshaw to go down, as Brown isn't near the talent Bradshaw is. One good game against a porous CAR rush defense does not make a season. I'm still in the "I don't know" camp, but those of you saying Wilson has no shot at seeing an expanded role as the season progresses don't know either. I don't know, you don't know and apparently Gilbride isn't quite sure either.

Brown looked very good against Tampa's 2nd ranked run defense too. Honestly, seeing what that line did against San Francisco, I think this is a run game to invest heavily in this year no matter who they are playing. With Bradshaw's chronic foot issues there is likely to be an opportunity for one of these guys. As long as he's healthy, that's Brown.

 

[Ace zero1]

If bradshaw dosnt go is brown a good play?

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

As for needing an injury to occur in order for Wilson to hold any value, I agree. However, he does not need both Bradshaw and Brown to go down in order to see 10-12 touches. If they both went down, let's be honest, who else would carry the workload? No, realistically he only needs Bradshaw to go down, as Brown isn't near the talent Bradshaw is. One good game against a porous CAR rush defense does not make a season. I'm still in the "I don't know" camp, but those of you saying Wilson has no shot at seeing an expanded role as the season progresses don't know either. I don't know, you don't know and apparently Gilbride isn't quite sure either.

They have both been down and different times this season - the healhty one got the very large majority of the carries, with Wilson getting about 2-3 carries a game.And how is his statement a possitive for Wilson's playing chances? What do you expect him to say? "No. He can't earn more time. He isn't getting more touches this season."?

When Bradhsaw went down (mid week 2/week 3) Wilson was still deep within Coughlin's doghouse. This is 4-5 weeks later with Brown fresh off of a concussion. I can't imagine the circumstances are still exactly the same.The statement is positive merely because they are acknowledging progressions and the possibilities of an expanded role. If the situation hadn't been different than it was a month ago, that question would never have been asked in the first place.

Has Wilson learned how to do the little things in the last 3 weeks? Doubt it. He has not been on the field in key situations we really have no clarity.

 

[mere blitzianity]

If bradshaw dosnt go is brown a good play?

Given most people are in bye week hell, I think Brown makes for a sneaky start regardless of whether or not Beadshaw starts. They ran him into the ground the past two weeks and given his proclivity to get injured they will should opt to give Brown a healthy number of carries (I see Wilson getting about 3-4 touches and more if the outcome is determined).

 

[wudaben]

As for needing an injury to occur in order for Wilson to hold any value, I agree. However, he does not need both Bradshaw and Brown to go down in order to see 10-12 touches. If they both went down, let's be honest, who else would carry the workload? No, realistically he only needs Bradshaw to go down, as Brown isn't near the talent Bradshaw is. One good game against a porous CAR rush defense does not make a season. I'm still in the "I don't know" camp, but those of you saying Wilson has no shot at seeing an expanded role as the season progresses don't know either. I don't know, you don't know and apparently Gilbride isn't quite sure either.

They have both been down and different times this season - the healhty one got the very large majority of the carries, with Wilson getting about 2-3 carries a game.And how is his statement a possitive for Wilson's playing chances? What do you expect him to say? "No. He can't earn more time. He isn't getting more touches this season."?

When Bradhsaw went down (mid week 2/week 3) Wilson was still deep within Coughlin's doghouse. This is 4-5 weeks later with Brown fresh off of a concussion. I can't imagine the circumstances are still exactly the same.The statement is positive merely because they are acknowledging progressions and the possibilities of an expanded role. If the situation hadn't been different than it was a month ago, that question would never have been asked in the first place.

Has Wilson learned how to do the little things in the last 3 weeks? Doubt it. He has not been on the field in key situations we really have no clarity.

He has been the only healthy RB at practice the past couple weeks so hopefully he has learned something from it.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

Isn't this the Sell High on Bradshaw thread? I think that window of opportunity is now gone with the recent news today.

That he is missing a practice? Bradshaw has always missed practice due to his feet, and always suited up to play. If we lowered the value of every RB that misses a practice, there wouldn't be any starting RBs left to value highly.

His sell high value peaked in week 5 and week 6 before news of him missing practice due to his chronic broken foot. Don't try to persuade me that his peak value is still there after this news. If you are trying to sell me Bradshaw right now I would counter and say trading for him is definitely an injury risk and ask you to lower the price. It's just stocks dude. Wake up.

Chronic broken foot? That's a bit of an oxymoron and misleading.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

As for needing an injury to occur in order for Wilson to hold any value, I agree. However, he does not need both Bradshaw and Brown to go down in order to see 10-12 touches. If they both went down, let's be honest, who else would carry the workload? No, realistically he only needs Bradshaw to go down, as Brown isn't near the talent Bradshaw is. One good game against a porous CAR rush defense does not make a season. I'm still in the "I don't know" camp, but those of you saying Wilson has no shot at seeing an expanded role as the season progresses don't know either. I don't know, you don't know and apparently Gilbride isn't quite sure either.

They have both been down and different times this season - the healhty one got the very large majority of the carries, with Wilson getting about 2-3 carries a game.And how is his statement a possitive for Wilson's playing chances? What do you expect him to say? "No. He can't earn more time. He isn't getting more touches this season."?

When Bradhsaw went down (mid week 2/week 3) Wilson was still deep within Coughlin's doghouse. This is 4-5 weeks later with Brown fresh off of a concussion. I can't imagine the circumstances are still exactly the same.The statement is positive merely because they are acknowledging progressions and the possibilities of an expanded role. If the situation hadn't been different than it was a month ago, that question would never have been asked in the first place.

Has Wilson learned how to do the little things in the last 3 weeks? Doubt it. He has not been on the field in key situations we really have no clarity.

He has been the only healthy RB at practice the past couple weeks so hopefully he has learned something from it.

That makes sense, but lets go a little deeper and ask ourselves if that earned him any time? It hasn't. He's played a handfull of snaps and only due to a combination of Bradshaw coming off the field and not having any competition for these snaps. Makes me wonder why he has not earned some snaps despite his practice time. We know Tom likes to keep his RB's fresh.

 

[netnalp]

There's some discrepancy. Coughlin said it was the same foot issue as before. Bradshaw says it wasn't, that his foot just got stepped on. It's not like Coughlin to comment unless he heard it from the staff in charge of injuries, medical or training. I suppose it could be the injury is the same as before, foot fractures but the cause is different so Bradshaw wouldn't consider it the same. Bradshaw could be trying to hide having a chronic issue. Don't really know why the discrepancy yet.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

There's some discrepancy. Coughlin said it was the same foot issue as before. Bradshaw says it wasn't, that his foot just got stepped on. It's not like Coughlin to comment unless he heard it from the staff in charge of injuries, medical or training. I suppose it could be the injury is the same as before, foot fractures but the cause is different so Bradshaw wouldn't consider it the same. Bradshaw could be trying to hide having a chronic issue. Don't really know why the discrepancy yet.

Stephania Bell said that the stepping on the foot irritated a foot that will always be painfull due to past injuries. It's chronic pain, but not chronic injury. It all boils down to how limited he will be due to pain.

 

[mere blitzianity]

There's some discrepancy. Coughlin said it was the same foot issue as before. Bradshaw says it wasn't, that his foot just got stepped on. It's not like Coughlin to comment unless he heard it from the staff in charge of injuries, medical or training. I suppose it could be the injury is the same as before, foot fractures but the cause is different so Bradshaw wouldn't consider it the same. Bradshaw could be trying to hide having a chronic issue. Don't really know why the discrepancy yet.

Stephania Bell said that the stepping on the foot irritated a foot that will always be painfull due to past injuries. It's chronic pain, but not chronic injury. It all boils down to how limited he will be due to pain.

Really? I can't help but laugh at this analysis

 

[Biabreakable]

There's some discrepancy. Coughlin said it was the same foot issue as before. Bradshaw says it wasn't, that his foot just got stepped on. It's not like Coughlin to comment unless he heard it from the staff in charge of injuries, medical or training. I suppose it could be the injury is the same as before, foot fractures but the cause is different so Bradshaw wouldn't consider it the same. Bradshaw could be trying to hide having a chronic issue. Don't really know why the discrepancy yet.

Stephania Bell said that the stepping on the foot irritated a foot that will always be painfull due to past injuries. It's chronic pain, but not chronic injury. It all boils down to how limited he will be due to pain.

Really? I can't help but laugh at this analysis

Ok I like a good joke as much as the next guy. What is so funny about ROFLCOPTERS post? Really.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

There's some discrepancy. Coughlin said it was the same foot issue as before. Bradshaw says it wasn't, that his foot just got stepped on. It's not like Coughlin to comment unless he heard it from the staff in charge of injuries, medical or training. I suppose it could be the injury is the same as before, foot fractures but the cause is different so Bradshaw wouldn't consider it the same. Bradshaw could be trying to hide having a chronic issue. Don't really know why the discrepancy yet.

Stephania Bell said that the stepping on the foot irritated a foot that will always be painfull due to past injuries. It's chronic pain, but not chronic injury. It all boils down to how limited he will be due to pain.

Really? I can't help but laugh at this analysis

Ok I like a good joke as much as the next guy. What is so funny about ROFLCOPTERS post? Really.

I am a little stumped too.