Selvin Young - Value going forward (1 Viewer)

[george]

18 carries 71 yards. 6 catches for 49 yards. And a 45 or so yard run called back on a holding call.

How do folks see him ranked for the remainder of the year if Henry only plays one more game? I see him in the 15-20 range. I'm putting him in there with JLewis/Rudi/L White. I think he showed a lot in the passing game as he obviously caught several screen passes and appeared to have been available for a couple more if Cutler hadn't held the ball to long.

Rest of schedule

9 at Lions

10 at Chiefs

11 vs Titans

12 at Bears

13 at Raiders

14 vs Chiefs

15 at Texans

16 at Chargers

17 vs Vikings

Thoughts?

 

[EdwardCat]

It all depends on whether Henry is suspended. If he isn't, then Young holds little value.

 

[valence]

seems the cool kids are touting Andre Hall. Anything changed since last night?

 

[Max Power]

I think Selvin will be a great player down the stretch. 120 yards per game seems on par for I would expect. Looks like he will be catching 4-5 balls per and turning that into 30-40 yards pretty easy. The GB D is a solid unit. Besides Tenn & SD (not counting week17) those other Ds dont scare me. (KC homers chime in here)

Id call Young a solid #2 RB in a 10-12 team format. The only issue I saw last night is that he was not effective near the GL. I would not be suprised to see Sapp become the guy down there.

Andre Hall looked decent in his few touches.

And Yes, Henry will be suspended.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

seems the cool kids are touting Andre Hall. Anything changed since last night?

I dont think so, Selvin looked pretty good

 

[EdwardCat]

I think Selvin will be a great player down the stretch. 120 yards per game seems on par for I would expect. Looks like he will be catching 4-5 balls per and turning that into 30-40 yards pretty easy. The GB D is a solid unit. Besides Tenn & SD (not counting week17) those other Ds dont scare me. (KC homers chime in here)Id call Young a solid #2 RB in a 10-12 team format. The only issue I saw last night is that he was not effective near the GL. I would not be suprised to see Sapp become the guy down there. Andre Hall looked decent in his few touches. And Yes, Henry will be suspended.

Hard to be effective with 7 defenders taking you down as soon as the ball is handed off. I'm pretty sure, when he plays a non-green bay defense, he'll find himself doing fine when running for the stripe.

 

[Pocket Joker]

Considering that Green Bay is a top-10 Defense against the run, I think Young was great. He looked very elusive and tough during his runs. His ability to become a factor in the pass/screens was also impressive. If Henry does find himself sidelined, I'd put Young in the top 15 RBs easily. I don't see Sapp, Bell or Hall being factors.

 

[Max Power]

I think Selvin will be a great player down the stretch. 120 yards per game seems on par for I would expect. Looks like he will be catching 4-5 balls per and turning that into 30-40 yards pretty easy. The GB D is a solid unit. Besides Tenn & SD (not counting week17) those other Ds dont scare me. (KC homers chime in here)Id call Young a solid #2 RB in a 10-12 team format. The only issue I saw last night is that he was not effective near the GL. I would not be suprised to see Sapp become the guy down there. Andre Hall looked decent in his few touches. And Yes, Henry will be suspended.

Hard to be effective with 7 defenders taking you down as soon as the ball is handed off. I'm pretty sure, when he plays a non-green bay defense, he'll find himself doing fine when running for the stripe.

Hopefully your right. I know on one of those plays Jenkins was about to take the handoff from Cutler. Cant fault Young for that one.

 

[EdwardCat]

I think Selvin will be a great player down the stretch. 120 yards per game seems on par for I would expect. Looks like he will be catching 4-5 balls per and turning that into 30-40 yards pretty easy. The GB D is a solid unit. Besides Tenn & SD (not counting week17) those other Ds dont scare me. (KC homers chime in here)Id call Young a solid #2 RB in a 10-12 team format. The only issue I saw last night is that he was not effective near the GL. I would not be suprised to see Sapp become the guy down there. Andre Hall looked decent in his few touches. And Yes, Henry will be suspended.

Hard to be effective with 7 defenders taking you down as soon as the ball is handed off. I'm pretty sure, when he plays a non-green bay defense, he'll find himself doing fine when running for the stripe.

Hopefully your right. I know on one of those plays Jenkins was about to take the handoff from Cutler. Cant fault Young for that one.

I saw the game. There was no chance in hell he was going to do anything against the Green Bay line inside the 5.

 

[Tenacious]

2 plays sold me on Selvin last night, the sideline 30+ yard run that was called back and the key first down at the end, where he put on the moves. I think he certainly will be effective in the red zone against the average NFL defense.

 

[Texican]

I thought he looked excellent. Great cuts, speed, etc. Kind of reminded me of Quentin Griffin when he started the year in '05.

 

[Max Power]

the other concerns are stamina and durability. He looked like he got hurt a few times in the game and always seemed to be coming off after a big run. I think the Stamina thing will work its self out, but previous injuries have to be a concern.

 

[EdwardCat]

I thought he looked excellent. Great cuts, speed, etc. Kind of reminded me of Quentin Griffin when he started the year in '05.

God I hope not. Griffin fumbled his career away.

 

[AnonymousBob]

I wish they would hurry up and suspend Henry...I hate having to burn two roster spots for ONE rb.

 

[Gopher State]

young was ok, the receiving yards were a plus, but when you take his 18 yard run out his numbers were so so on rushing (I know he had one called back due to holding which was a nice run, but hold helped him on that play) GB has a good D agreed.

I would rank him as far as value to the following what I would call "value play" RB's as we head for the play offs:

1. Grant GB, I think this kid is the real deal, and will grab the starting job and be the goal line back.

2. Echemandu Hous, Green's knee is an issue all this RB has to do is outplay Dayne, enough said.

3. Young, the opinions vary, but some are of thought that Henry drags this suspension out for 4 more weeks, each week decreases Youngs value. The issue here is if you trust Shanny, if you do and think Young is his boy, go for him, I see lots of yards and rec's but limited td's. (Henry only has one td this year)

4. Henry Tenn, played two weeks two TD's, IMO they don't send him back to the bench when Brown returns, and White is getting a heavy work load that I think Tenn wants to monitor. Henry is an injury away from being a stud. A definite dice roll.

Past two weeks 11-57 TD & 4-48 TD.

5. Sleeper here I saw an article on Rotoworld (I can find the link) that Fargas will be getting more carries from here on out last week he was 12-61 rushing and 3-26 rec, very buy low value

So yes, Young has value as second half RB, but I don't think he is the best value available.

 

[AnonymousBob]

Please find the Fargas link. He's been mediocre (at best) for so long, even if the coachspeak says he'll be getting more carries, he'll still be cheap. Could be an interesting and sneaky pickup.

 

[MogusMaximus]

Been saying it for a while, the Broncos staff is sky high on this kid and has been since training camp, especially running backs coach Bobby Turner. Shanahan has called him 'the natural' knowing full well he hasn't so dubbed any player since an unheralded 6th round pick out of Georgia started making plays in 95'.

 

[packersfan]

young was ok, the receiving yards were a plus, but when you take his 18 yard run out

Why do people always do this? I'm not trying to jump on you but didn't the 18-yard run count? I get the point you're trying to make but if a guy is stuffed for 1 yard on 19 straight carries and then busts an 81-yard run on the 20th would he still not get credit for a 100-yard day? The foundation of many good running attacks is that even if you don't get much early, you stick with it because you can hopefully wear down defenses late. So "taking out" long runs makes no sense to me since that was clearly a result of the RB's ability.And for what it's worth the long run that was called back was negated by an absolutely horrible holding call. I'm a Packers fan but Marshall did not hold Harris on the play. It was a good block.

 

[EdwardCat]

young was ok, the receiving yards were a plus, but when you take his 18 yard run out his numbers were so so on rushing (I know he had one called back due to holding which was a nice run, but hold helped him on that play) GB has a good D agreed.

I would rank him as far as value to the following what I would call "value play" RB's as we head for the play offs:

1. Grant GB, I think this kid is the real deal, and will grab the starting job and be the goal line back.

2. Echemandu Hous, Green's knee is an issue all this RB has to do is outplay Dayne, enough said.

3. Young, the opinions vary, but some are of thought that Henry drags this suspension out for 4 more weeks, each week decreases Youngs value. The issue here is if you trust Shanny, if you do and think Young is his boy, go for him, I see lots of yards and rec's but limited td's. (Henry only has one td this year)

4. Henry Tenn, played two weeks two TD's, IMO they don't send him back to the bench when Brown returns, and White is getting a heavy work load that I think Tenn wants to monitor. Henry is an injury away from being a stud. A definite dice roll.

Past two weeks 11-57 TD & 4-48 TD.

5. Sleeper here I saw an article on Rotoworld (I can find the link) that Fargas will be getting more carries from here on out last week he was 12-61 rushing and 3-26 rec, very buy low value

So yes, Young has value as second half RB, but I don't think he is the best value available.

I would never trust a Texan RB at this point. Grant was great against one of the worst run defenses in the league. I wouldn't put too much stock in that. The bolded text is probably argument in evaluating a RB's ability. A longer run is an indication that they CAN pull off the long run. Instead, you are using it to argue that he was lucky to get the long run. I'd rather assume it was skill than luck.

 

[EdwardCat]

young was ok, the receiving yards were a plus, but when you take his 18 yard run out

Why do people always do this? I'm not trying to jump on you but didn't the 18-yard run count? I get the point you're trying to make but if a guy is stuffed for 1 yard on 19 straight carries and then busts an 81-yard run on the 20th would he still not get credit for a 100-yard day? The foundation of many good running attacks is that even if you don't get much early, you stick with it because you can hopefully wear down defenses late. So "taking out" long runs makes no sense to me since that was clearly a result of the RB's ability.And for what it's worth the long run that was called back was negated by an absolutely horrible holding call. I'm a Packers fan but Marshall did not hold Harris on the play. It was a good block.

Agreed. There was no holding on that play. Harris just got :11:

 

[Max Power]

young was ok, the receiving yards were a plus, but when you take his 18 yard run out his numbers were so so on rushing (I know he had one called back due to holding which was a nice run, but hold helped him on that play) GB has a good D agreed.I would rank him as far as value to the following what I would call "value play" RB's as we head for the play offs:1. Grant GB, I think this kid is the real deal, and will grab the starting job and be the goal line back.2. Echemandu Hous, Green's knee is an issue all this RB has to do is outplay Dayne, enough said.3. Young, the opinions vary, but some are of thought that Henry drags this suspension out for 4 more weeks, each week decreases Youngs value. The issue here is if you trust Shanny, if you do and think Young is his boy, go for him, I see lots of yards and rec's but limited td's. (Henry only has one td this year)4. Henry Tenn, played two weeks two TD's, IMO they don't send him back to the bench when Brown returns, and White is getting a heavy work load that I think Tenn wants to monitor. Henry is an injury away from being a stud. A definite dice roll.Past two weeks 11-57 TD & 4-48 TD.5. Sleeper here I saw an article on Rotoworld (I can find the link) that Fargas will be getting more carries from here on out last week he was 12-61 rushing and 3-26 rec, very buy low value So yes, Young has value as second half RB, but I don't think he is the best value available.

First off, nice write up. A quality post. However you did manage to hit that one button that sets me off. The Take back his 18 yard run and his numbers dont look good line. I understand the point people try to get across by saying something like this, but in fact it is really just stupid. I mean take back Favre's two long TD passes and he had a terrible game. Second that Hold was a tic/tac call. I dont think it was even a hold IMO. Grant had a solid day, I'll give him that. However this is the 4th time this season the Packers have found a new everydown back. I'll take it for fact after Grant starts a few games in a row and receives the bulk of the carries. I think of that list you mention, Young is the clear cut #1 back from that group.

 

[big0mar]

selvin young cannot be counted on. he simply cannot take the beating.

he may be good, but he will not be getting 20 carries. he wil be gettign 10-15.

 

[MogusMaximus]

young was ok, the receiving yards were a plus, but when you take his 18 yard run out

Why do people always do this? I'm not trying to jump on you but didn't the 18-yard run count? I get the point you're trying to make but if a guy is stuffed for 1 yard on 19 straight carries and then busts an 81-yard run on the 20th would he still not get credit for a 100-yard day? The foundation of many good running attacks is that even if you don't get much early, you stick with it because you can hopefully wear down defenses late. So "taking out" long runs makes no sense to me since that was clearly a result of the RB's ability.And for what it's worth the long run that was called back was negated by an absolutely horrible holding call. I'm a Packers fan but Marshall did not hold Harris on the play. It was a good block.

I about broke my new TV after I saw that call. Good game by the way, Favre deserved the win after burning both our corners deep.

 

[packersfan]

selvin young cannot be counted on. he simply cannot take the beating.he may be good, but he will not be getting 20 carries. he wil be gettign 10-15.

I think this is a legitimate point of discussion. I said in the other Young thread last night that as I watched him I kept having Tatum Bell flashbacks. I saw a guy who could turn the corner and explode, make plays but can he hold up getting 20+ touches a game? Bell had some big games last season but clearly couldn't hold up and wore down. Shanahan will run his starter into the ground so the question of whether Young can hold up is a good one in my opinion.

 

[packersfan]

young was ok, the receiving yards were a plus, but when you take his 18 yard run out

Why do people always do this? I'm not trying to jump on you but didn't the 18-yard run count? I get the point you're trying to make but if a guy is stuffed for 1 yard on 19 straight carries and then busts an 81-yard run on the 20th would he still not get credit for a 100-yard day? The foundation of many good running attacks is that even if you don't get much early, you stick with it because you can hopefully wear down defenses late. So "taking out" long runs makes no sense to me since that was clearly a result of the RB's ability.And for what it's worth the long run that was called back was negated by an absolutely horrible holding call. I'm a Packers fan but Marshall did not hold Harris on the play. It was a good block.

I about broke my new TV after I saw that call. Good game by the way, Favre deserved the win after burning both our corners deep.

I had nothing to do with it but thanks. As for the call, I had a bunch of friends over to watch the game and we all laughed at the call when it was made. It was really bogus and it was a HUGE break for the Packers.

 

[MogusMaximus]

young was ok, the receiving yards were a plus, but when you take his 18 yard run out

Why do people always do this? I'm not trying to jump on you but didn't the 18-yard run count? I get the point you're trying to make but if a guy is stuffed for 1 yard on 19 straight carries and then busts an 81-yard run on the 20th would he still not get credit for a 100-yard day? The foundation of many good running attacks is that even if you don't get much early, you stick with it because you can hopefully wear down defenses late. So "taking out" long runs makes no sense to me since that was clearly a result of the RB's ability.And for what it's worth the long run that was called back was negated by an absolutely horrible holding call. I'm a Packers fan but Marshall did not hold Harris on the play. It was a good block.

I about broke my new TV after I saw that call. Good game by the way, Favre deserved the win after burning both our corners deep.

I had nothing to do with it but thanks. As for the call, I had a bunch of friends over to watch the game and we all laughed at the call when it was made. It was really bogus and it was a HUGE break for the Packers.

I know when the Broncs win, I WIN.

 

[MNFlyingBoat]

I look at it this way. Grant was playing against about the weakest running defense in the league, managed 100 yards, but didn't even get a sniff of the endzone.

Young gained more yards rushing and receiving than Grant, he was playing against a much better rush defense, had a great run called back do to nonexisting penalty, had much shiftier moves which got Denver close to the goal line at the end, has an easier schedule, particularly when I need in him in week 15 vs Houston.

I was trying to decide between the two to pick up this morning and decided on Young.

Why would I want a back who did worse against a weaker defense then a back who did better against a tougher defense?

Grant looked OK, and looks to be a shot in the arm for GB, but Selvin looked better, shiftier and has break away capability.

I have Henry and other backs to fill in until Selvin is the starter. I am more concerned about RBBC or starting Henry and then he comes out like Rudi Johnson.

Henry/Selvin are my best backs for week 9, so I would like to use one, but am concerned about the above, and since all my other backs also start at 1:00 I may need to start Graham or Watson instead. I am also starting Lynch.

For what it is worth, Yahoo just changed the projected points to Young away from Henry this morning for week 9.

 

[JuniorNB]

young was ok, the receiving yards were a plus, but when you take his 18 yard run out

Why do people always do this? I'm not trying to jump on you but didn't the 18-yard run count? I get the point you're trying to make but if a guy is stuffed for 1 yard on 19 straight carries and then busts an 81-yard run on the 20th would he still not get credit for a 100-yard day? The foundation of many good running attacks is that even if you don't get much early, you stick with it because you can hopefully wear down defenses late. So "taking out" long runs makes no sense to me since that was clearly a result of the RB's ability.And for what it's worth the long run that was called back was negated by an absolutely horrible holding call. I'm a Packers fan but Marshall did not hold Harris on the play. It was a good block.

I just went back and reviewed Barry Sanders' entire career, carry by carry.Did any of you realize that if you took away all of his 18+ yard runs, he averaged 2.1 ypc and probably wouldn't have made one NFL team?

Thank God Tagliabue was a nice guy and let those long ones stand.

 

[Fantaholic]

I look at it this way. Grant was playing against about the weakest running defense in the league, managed 100 yards, but didn't even get a sniff of the endzone.Young gained more yards rushing and receiving than Grant, he was playing against a much better rush defense, had a great run called back do to nonexisting penalty, had much shiftier moves which got Denver close to the goal line at the end, has an easier schedule, particularly when I need in him in week 15 vs Houston. I was trying to decide between the two to pick up this morning and decided on Young.Why would I want a back who did worse against a weaker defense then a back who did better against a tougher defense?Grant looked OK, and looks to be a shot in the arm for GB, but Selvin looked better, shiftier and has break away capability.I have Henry and other backs to fill in until Selvin is the starter. I am more concerned about RBBC or starting Henry and then he comes out like Rudi Johnson.Henry/Selvin are my best backs for week 9, so I would like to use one, but am concerned about the above, and since all my other backs also start at 1:00 I may need to start Graham or Watson instead. I am also starting Lynch.For what it is worth, Yahoo just changed the projected points to Young away from Henry this morning for week 9.

While I can relate to what you're saying, you can't deny that Grant was looking like a "workhorse" type back there for a while. They slowed him down a bit in the latter part of the game, but the kid was running with conviction and you got the feeling that Favre was enjoying handing the ball off to him. It's been a while since Favre has felt that. Let's not fool ourselves, while Favre has taken things into his own hands this year and passed extremely well, he knows that a running game is key to their success. He never went to a superbowl based on his arm alone. If the Packers are willing to give this kid a shot, and we won't know that until next week, I think he represents the better value than Young at this point. Young is already owned in most leagues. Plus, Young looked nicked up after a few plays last night. Couple that with a reputation of being a bit soft and you really need to see more out of him before you can annoint him the next Denver stud. Look all discussion aside. It's one MNF football game, and any of us that have been doing this for a long time know that you can't put too much into either performance. It will be interesting however to see if GB continues to feed Grant the ball the way they were last night. If they do, I would want him over Young, and I drafted Young as my RB6.

 

[SteveInChicago]

young was ok, the receiving yards were a plus, but when you take his 18 yard run out

Why do people always do this? I'm not trying to jump on you but didn't the 18-yard run count? I get the point you're trying to make but if a guy is stuffed for 1 yard on 19 straight carries and then busts an 81-yard run on the 20th would he still not get credit for a 100-yard day? The foundation of many good running attacks is that even if you don't get much early, you stick with it because you can hopefully wear down defenses late. So "taking out" long runs makes no sense to me since that was clearly a result of the RB's ability.And for what it's worth the long run that was called back was negated by an absolutely horrible holding call. I'm a Packers fan but Marshall did not hold Harris on the play. It was a good block.

I just went back and reviewed Barry Sanders' entire career, carry by carry.Did any of you realize that if you took away all of his 18+ yard runs, he averaged 2.1 ypc and probably wouldn't have made one NFL team?

Thank God Tagliabue was a nice guy and let those long ones stand.

You know, if you take away his 15 longest runs he only has 3 carries for like -12 yards rushing. I can't believe FA pools are so depleted that I have to keep this guy on my roster. There goes my season.

 

[Garts]

I am a Broncos homer and I wasn't that impressed with Selvyn.

I thought Andre Hall showed beter tackle breaking ability and more power...JMO...Young looks great in space and good on the screen plays while Hall looks sturdy between the tackles.

 

[packersfan]

I am a Broncos homer and I wasn't that impressed with Selvyn. I thought Andre Hall showed beter tackle breaking ability and more power...JMO...Young looks great in space and good on the screen plays while Hall looks sturdy between the tackles.

This surprises me. Even if I didn't have a vested interest here I'd still say I was very impressed by Young. He ran hard and tough against a good run defense and added another weapon in the passing game. I thought he was pretty impressive last night.

 

[MCguidance]

the other concerns are stamina and durability. He looked like he got hurt a few times in the game and always seemed to be coming off after a big run. I think the Stamina thing will work its self out, but previous injuries have to be a concern.

Don't most players come off after a big play of long yardage with no stoppage afterwards? ie: Fast Willie Parker and Davenport? Just a thought.

 

[MCguidance]

selvin young cannot be counted on. he simply cannot take the beating.he may be good, but he will not be getting 20 carries. he wil be gettign 10-15.

I think this is a legitimate point of discussion. I said in the other Young thread last night that as I watched him I kept having Tatum Bell flashbacks. I saw a guy who could turn the corner and explode, make plays but can he hold up getting 20+ touches a game? Bell had some big games last season but clearly couldn't hold up and wore down. Shanahan will run his starter into the ground so the question of whether Young can hold up is a good one in my opinion.

Personally and from watching the game last night, I thought he did equally well in between the tackles with the one-cut blocking scheme? Does anyone agree or disagree?

 

[ThePittbully]

That play in the fourth where cut back and forth about 7 times to pick up 10 yards was pretty sick. I never understood all the buzz behind Andre Hall, Selvin has looked good everytime he's touched the ball this year and he's continuing to do so. Selvin all the way for the rest of the year

 

[Max Power]

the other concerns are stamina and durability. He looked like he got hurt a few times in the game and always seemed to be coming off after a big run. I think the Stamina thing will work its self out, but previous injuries have to be a concern.

Don't most players come off after a big play of long yardage with no stoppage afterwards? ie: Fast Willie Parker and Davenport? Just a thought.

I was more concerned with a screen pass he turned into a 10-15 yard gain then came out. I know I get winded walking to the mailbox, but I expect more from my athletes while Im drinking and eating Nachos.

 

[Tanner9919]

Considering that Green Bay is a top-10 Defense against the run, I think Young was great. He looked very elusive and tough during his runs. His ability to become a factor in the pass/screens was also impressive. If Henry does find himself sidelined, I'd put Young in the top 15 RBs easily. I don't see Sapp, Bell or Hall being factors.

 

[Gopher State]

young was ok, the receiving yards were a plus, but when you take his 18 yard run out his numbers were so so on rushing (I know he had one called back due to holding which was a nice run, but hold helped him on that play) GB has a good D agreed.

I would rank him as far as value to the following what I would call "value play" RB's as we head for the play offs:

1. Grant GB, I think this kid is the real deal, and will grab the starting job and be the goal line back.

2. Echemandu Hous, Green's knee is an issue all this RB has to do is outplay Dayne, enough said.

3. Young, the opinions vary, but some are of thought that Henry drags this suspension out for 4 more weeks, each week decreases Youngs value. The issue here is if you trust Shanny, if you do and think Young is his boy, go for him, I see lots of yards and rec's but limited td's. (Henry only has one td this year)

4. Henry Tenn, played two weeks two TD's, IMO they don't send him back to the bench when Brown returns, and White is getting a heavy work load that I think Tenn wants to monitor. Henry is an injury away from being a stud. A definite dice roll.

Past two weeks 11-57 TD & 4-48 TD.

5. Sleeper here I saw an article on Rotoworld (I can find the link) that Fargas will be getting more carries from here on out last week he was 12-61 rushing and 3-26 rec, very buy low value

So yes, Young has value as second half RB, but I don't think he is the best value available.

I would never trust a Texan RB at this point. Grant was great against one of the worst run defenses in the league. I wouldn't put too much stock in that. The bolded text is probably argument in evaluating a RB's ability. A longer run is an indication that they CAN pull off the long run. Instead, you are using it to argue that he was lucky to get the long run. I'd rather assume it was skill than luck.

I not saying the 18 yard run was luck, it was a good play one play, I didn't like all the 2 yard runs he made granted GB has a good defense. Young will be a good #3/flex player with some good games, but he's not the next LT or AP, and in TD heavy league people will be disappointed IMO. I just see other guys with more value, Denver's not a top 10 team, I see them being behind and passing more then running the ball, no doubt young will catch some passes, but I think the TE & Marshall will end up with more TD's then the running game. Denver has rushed for THREE TD's this year and one was by Cutler, if everyone thinks the Young in going to improve the rushing TD totals, why has he pushed Henry aside? You play your best players regardless of contacts etc in the NFL?

 

[Shorty]

I was very impressed with Young's catching ability. Kid has great hands. He made a couple of tough catches. When Henry is gone, Young will be a very good FF RB due to receptions. I can almost see them going with a Phily type attack, using short screens as the running game.

 

[Crimson King]

I thought he looked fast and quick against a very solid defense. On most of those goaline carries, the o-line allowed so much penetration that he had no chance.

 

[bigupsetter]

I thought he looked fast and quick against a very solid defense. On most of those goaline carries, the o-line allowed so much penetration that he had no chance.

Some of those goal line plays it looked like GB had more guys in the backfield than Denver! That being said, a few minor twists of fate and Selvin could have 125 and TD very easily to go along with the receptions ryds. As a Henry owner, Ive had Selvin handcuffed since the draft, though now with Henrys injury Ive had to pick up Andre Hall as well. Now Im holding three RBs for one spot. Cant wait till the Henry thing is over so I can drop Henry off the roster. In any event- I do recommend grabbing Hall to back up Young- we all know the Shan-nanagins with RBs in Denver.

 

[NHT-SPOILER]

Hall: (who said hall looked better, wtf - how can u say that with only 3 carries - lol)!!!

1yd run

6yd

3 yds

Young: (great burst, speed, moves, hands and really looked good blocking as well)

3

8

4

3

2

6

-3 & -4 (goaline - gb stacked the BOX)

8

-5

4

4

6

3

5 (off holding)

48 (off holding)

0

9 (red zone)

1 thing that did bother me, was about 3-4 times I saw him getting up very slowly.

Looks like a damn good start to me!!

 

[NHT-SPOILER]

young was ok, the receiving yards were a plus, but when you take his 18 yard run out his numbers were so so on rushing (I know he had one called back due to holding which was a nice run, but hold helped him on that play) GB has a good D agreed.

I would rank him as far as value to the following what I would call "value play" RB's as we head for the play offs:

1. Grant GB, I think this kid is the real deal, and will grab the starting job and be the goal line back.

2. Echemandu Hous, Green's knee is an issue all this RB has to do is outplay Dayne, enough said.

3. Young, the opinions vary, but some are of thought that Henry drags this suspension out for 4 more weeks, each week decreases Youngs value. The issue here is if you trust Shanny, if you do and think Young is his boy, go for him, I see lots of yards and rec's but limited td's. (Henry only has one td this year)

4. Henry Tenn, played two weeks two TD's, IMO they don't send him back to the bench when Brown returns, and White is getting a heavy work load that I think Tenn wants to monitor. Henry is an injury away from being a stud. A definite dice roll.

Past two weeks 11-57 TD & 4-48 TD.

5. Sleeper here I saw an article on Rotoworld (I can find the link) that Fargas will be getting more carries from here on out last week he was 12-61 rushing and 3-26 rec, very buy low value

So yes, Young has value as second half RB, but I don't think he is the best value available.

I would never trust a Texan RB at this point. Grant was great against one of the worst run defenses in the league. I wouldn't put too much stock in that. The bolded text is probably argument in evaluating a RB's ability. A longer run is an indication that they CAN pull off the long run. Instead, you are using it to argue that he was lucky to get the long run. I'd rather assume it was skill than luck.

I not saying the 18 yard run was luck, it was a good play one play, I didn't like all the 2 yard runs he made granted GB has a good defense. Young will be a good #3/flex player with some good games, but he's not the next LT or AP, and in TD heavy league people will be disappointed IMO. I just see other guys with more value, Denver's not a top 10 team, I see them being behind and passing more then running the ball, no doubt young will catch some passes, but I think the TE & Marshall will end up with more TD's then the running game. Denver has rushed for THREE TD's this year and one was by Cutler, if everyone thinks the Young in going to improve the rushing TD totals, why has he pushed Henry aside? You play your best players regardless of contacts etc in the NFL?

I recommend doing the math next time before you say something, he had 1 - 2yd carry and 1 carry for a loss, not counting the 1 set of goaline carries when GB loaded the box and the OL look like juveniles - look at my post above! Looking at the runs he had against a stout def, looked excellent I thought!!

 

[fsufan]

just a side note on the GL carries. Denver as a team has not been able to run the ball in the redzone. They use a lot of play action passes to get the ball into the end zone. as a team they only have 3 rushing TDs and 1 is by Cutler.

 

[Texican]

Please note that Green Bay's defense on the road has been suspect (against RBs).

Wk 2 @ NYG:

D.Ward 90 yds rushing / 35 receiving

Wk 4 @ MIN:

ADP 112 yards rushing / 6 receiving

Wk 8 @ DEN:

Young 71 yds rushing / 49 receiving

Not saying GB's D is the suck, but they are definitely not a stone wall when away from Lambeau.

{Next week @ KC}

 

[MCguidance]

Please note that Green Bay's defense on the road has been suspect (against RBs).Wk 2 @ NYG: D.Ward 90 yds rushing / 35 receivingWk 4 @ MIN:ADP 112 yards rushing / 6 receivingWk 8 @ DEN:Young 71 yds rushing / 49 receivingNot saying GB's D is the suck, but they are definitely not a stone wall when away from Lambeau. {Next week @ KC}

Maybe they faced some good rushing schemes/teams, too? Just a thought. But its always harder to play on the road in the NFL, so point well taken.

 

[qbcowboy]

Young was solid in his 1st BIG game.

He did look like he was hurting after

almost every carry (maybe that's him

playing somekind of mind game?).

Hall looked alittle more seasoned.

Good future RBBC (just what Shanny

ordered!).

 

[EdwardCat]

Young was solid in his 1st BIG game.He did look like he was hurting afteralmost every carry (maybe that's himplaying somekind of mind game?).Hall looked alittle more seasoned.Good future RBBC (just what Shannyordered!).

Hall barely played. Not sure how he could look more season. I watched the game and saw nothing indicating Young was hurting after every play. Denver is typically a one back system.

 

[timschochet]

So what's going on with this situation? Every ranking I've seen has got Henry above Young this weekend. Is Henry going to get the bulk of carries, this weekend and until he gets suspended (and when is that going to happen, if ever?)

OR, and this is my biggest nightmare, will it be an RBBC Henry/Young the rest of the way,(starting this week) with Henry managing to avoid any suspension, and neither guy gets more than 10-12 carries?

 

[MCguidance]

Young was solid in his 1st BIG game.He did look like he was hurting afteralmost every carry (maybe that's himplaying somekind of mind game?).Hall looked alittle more seasoned.Good future RBBC (just what Shannyordered!).

I just dont get how Hall look seasoned with 3 carries? Didn't Jim Brown get up all slow-like? No comparison there, don't worry fisherman. I would like to hear some homers' take on this?Also, I think that DEN would likely use Henry as much as possible against the Lions, with Selvin playing on 3rd downs -- this a testament to his receiving skills, which I think he has an advantage over TH. However, I think Henry is going to prove a good matchup against this Lions D, but I would not be surprised if he split some time with Young, given Young's ability to catch the ball out of the backfield and in the flat. Just seems the logical thing to do.