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I'm not a Denver homer, per se (I live in Wisconsin), but I've been a Denver fan for years.It's going to be Young until he proves otherwise.Denver homers, what do you see happening w/ the backup RB position?
I'm not a Denver homer, per se (I live in Wisconsin), but I've been a Denver fan for years.It's going to be Young until he proves otherwise.Denver homers, what do you see happening w/ the backup RB position?
Selvin Young Ready To Carry Load If Henry Can't Go
By Pat Graham, AP Sports Writer
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(AP) ENGLEWOOD, Colo. If Travis Henry can't carry the load Sunday against San Diego, the Denver Broncos' Plan B is pretty good.
Undrafted rookie Selvin Young is leading the league with a 9.2-yard average.
"He is?" tight end Daniel Graham marveled. "That's impressive."
Young has rushed 15 times for 138 yards, mostly on third downs while Henry is catching his breath on the sideline.
But with Henry injuring both his right knee and right ankle against Indianapolis last week, Young could get his first NFL start.
The Broncos might have to learn to live without Henry. Newsday reported Thursday that Henry is suing the NFL in an effort to keep the league from using the results of a drug test to suspend him, according to court papers filed in federal court.
While in Tennessee, Henry was suspended four games in September 2005 by the NFL for violating the league's substance abuse policy. He would face a long suspension if he failed another drug test.
Coach Mike Shanahan couldn't be reached for comment Thursday night. In regard to Henry's injury status, Shanahan earlier said Henry is day-to-day and that he participated in a walk through Thursday morning but didn't practice. Henry is the league's leading rusher at 433 yards.
Young, the former Texas Longhorns running back, is ready to step in.
"I'm the type of person that I like to have the ball in my hands and I like to make big plays," Young said.
He's already turned in one impact play for the Broncos, and it had nothing to do with feet, but his heads-up thinking on a fumble.
On Denver's final drive against Buffalo in the opener, quarterback Jay Cutler blindly pitched a lateral to his left that sailed over Young's head. The ball was live until Young smartly punched it out of bounds, drawing an illegal batting penalty.
Shanahan called it the smartest penalty he's seen in a long, long time. It kept the Broncos' late fourth-quarter drive alive for what would turn into a game-winning field goal by Jason Elam as time expired.
"I felt extra good after the game," Young said.
Young has followed a similar path as Mike Bell, an undrafted rookie out of Arizona last year who was the surprise of camp and eventually settled into a backup role behind Tatum Bell. Young impressed Denver so much in camp the team decided to move Bell, who scored eight times in 2006, to fullback.
Now, it's just a matter of getting caught up on some light reading -- his thick playbook.
"I've tried to learn as much as I can and that's helped me," he said.
One thing he isn't as he prepares for what could be his first extensive action is scared.
Young said the only thing that frightens him is the dark, a fear that dates to growing up as the second of five boys sharing the same bedroom. He was constantly kicked in the middle of the night.
"Toes, feet, everything in your mouth," he said. "There was a bunch of us."
Texas coach Mack Brown used to kid Young about his fear of the dark. Brown told him it was a good thing the Longhorns played under the lights.
"That was a little thing we had at Texas," Young said with a grin. "He'd always come up to me and be like, 'The lights are on.' I'd be like, 'Well, I'm looking forward to having a good day today.' The lights go off and come find me in the locker room."
Young shouldn't have to worry Sunday -- it's a day game.
Young played in 49 games with the Longhorns, rushing for 1,713 yards and 25 touchdowns. He also threw a key block on Vince Young's game-winning touchdown against USC in the Rose Bowl, clinching the national title for Texas two years ago.
But it was a collegiate career marred by injuries, including a shattered right ankle in 2004 that required doctors to piece it back together like a puzzle with a plate and 11 screws.
"It was an up-and-down career, but it allowed me to build heart," Young said.
That's what impresses former Longhorns defensive lineman and current Broncos rookie Tim Crowder about Young -- his ability to bounce back.
"The way he overcomes adversity, it tells you how strong of a person he is," Crowder said. "I haven't seen him this healthy in a long time. He's definitely healthy and he looks really good."
The Broncos have confidence in him should Henry be limited or inactive Sunday.
"He's shown he's a competitor," Graham said. "He runs hard. He's been making a lot of big plays for us."
In a limited role, too.
Young had a 40-yard run against Oakland and a 32-yard sprint against the Colts.
He doesn't buy into the notion that his big-play ability will be marginalized if he gets more carries, either.
"My mentality and approach to it are to do what I've been doing and just let the numbers come out at the end of the day," Young said. "My mind-set is whenever I get the ball I run and don't leave anything out there.
"I feel if I keep that mind-set, positive things happened before and they're going to continue to happen."
total garbageMike Bell is total garbage, the only way he is getting more then 5-10 carries a game is if Young gets injured. This is going to be Young's job to lose. He will get 20+ carries from this point forward. If something were to happen to Young, then you will see RBBC with the remaining scrubs Bell/Sapp/Hall. Those three have very limited potential as none would ever be used as a 20+ carry a game back. They would be a 4th RB on any decent team 10 or 12 team league.
I would guess that a starting point for this discussion would be the following: if the season were starting today and Young was the starter in Denver, what would his value be? My guess: he would go first or second round. As such, a top tier 2 WR value wise sounds about right due to the uncertainty surrounding the RB situation in Denver.Sorry if this has been asked before...What does the pool think SYoung's current trade value is?5-12 WR straight up?
not buying it here, I don't see anyone moving a driver or tj type for an unproven rookie with a coach who will pull him and sit him without notice, maybe if they are really desperate I guess...I would guess that a starting point for this discussion would be the following: if the season were starting today and Young was the starter in Denver, what would his value be? My guess: he would go first or second round. As such, a top tier 2 WR value wise sounds about right due to the uncertainty surrounding the RB situation in Denver.Sorry if this has been asked before...
What does the pool think SYoung's current trade value is?
5-12 WR straight up?
He will not be more than a 5-10 carry 15-20yards a game guy with the occasional TD sprinkled in, assuming he overcomes his concussions. The league is getting stricter on allowing guys to come back from concussions though. If SYoung were to get injured, then Bell probably moves up to 10-15 carries and 40-60 yards a game.total garbageMike Bell is total garbage, the only way he is getting more then 5-10 carries a game is if Young gets injured. This is going to be Young's job to lose. He will get 20+ carries from this point forward. If something were to happen to Young, then you will see RBBC with the remaining scrubs Bell/Sapp/Hall. Those three have very limited potential as none would ever be used as a 20+ carry a game back. They would be a 4th RB on any decent team 10 or 12 team league.he rushed for 677 yards and 8 TDs in 06
I'm getting ready to offer Selvin and Curry to the Henry owner (who now only has R. Bush and D. Ward as viable RB's) for Ocho Cinco and Leonard (I have SJax). We'll see what happens. He might counter with Javon instead of CJ, but not sure I'd take that right now.not buying it here, I don't see anyone moving a driver or tj type for an unproven rookie with a coach who will pull him and sit him without notice, maybe if they are really desperate I guess...I would guess that a starting point for this discussion would be the following: if the season were starting today and Young was the starter in Denver, what would his value be? My guess: he would go first or second round. As such, a top tier 2 WR value wise sounds about right due to the uncertainty surrounding the RB situation in Denver.Sorry if this has been asked before...
What does the pool think SYoung's current trade value is?
5-12 WR straight up?
I believe most Young owners care most about what he can do for them in the 2nd half of the season. If they had to pickup Young to save their season now, then they are probably in deep doo doo.Looks like Henry will start this week. So now the question for Young is does he get some carries like he did last week or is he a non-factor like he was in the first three games.
Hes going to counter with a "your crazy"RamMan said:I'm getting ready to offer Selvin and Curry to the Henry owner (who now only has R. Bush and D. Ward as viable RB's) for Ocho Cinco and Leonard (I have SJax). We'll see what happens. He might counter with Javon instead of CJ, but not sure I'd take that right now.mozzy84 said:not buying it here, I don't see anyone moving a driver or tj type for an unproven rookie with a coach who will pull him and sit him without notice, maybe if they are really desperate I guess...letter_j said:I would guess that a starting point for this discussion would be the following: if the season were starting today and Young was the starter in Denver, what would his value be? My guess: he would go first or second round. As such, a top tier 2 WR value wise sounds about right due to the uncertainty surrounding the RB situation in Denver.TeamDingo said:Sorry if this has been asked before...
What does the pool think SYoung's current trade value is?
5-12 WR straight up?
Or some may be hoping he can get 8-10 carries to make him a decent RB3 in larger flex leagues. Byes and injuries enhance the value of a lot of players now.I believe most Young owners care most about what he can do for them in the 2nd half of the season. If they had to pickup Young to save their season now, then they are probably in deep doo doo.Looks like Henry will start this week. So now the question for Young is does he get some carries like he did last week or is he a non-factor like he was in the first three games.
Well, either of the guys might be worth something on your roster if you have room - until Henry actually goes down, Young or Hall will only have limited impact.For now I think Young is the first choice, but in most leagues I am in, he was gone loooooong ago. So then Hall becomes a person of interest.I'm not dropping a starter for him, but if you have flotsom on your roster, Lammey and Bloom spoke highly of him in preseason, apparently.Pocket Joker said:Apparently a guy who was on the practice squad at the beginning of the year and has NEVER had a carry is the most talented in Denver (Andre Hall). Although, there is absolutely nothing out there to validate this, just the talk on the "Andre Hall" thread.Anyone here think this is valid? We've at least seen Young play....
TeamDingo said:Sorry if this has been asked before...What does the pool think SYoung's current trade value is?5-12 WR straight up?More like 20-25 WR, to many unknows in Denver, Sapp could end up with the starting job, before this is over.Thanks.edit as original was maybe to AC
Selvin Young, who's let it be known that his 2008 goal is to rush for 2,000 yards, will open training camp as the Broncos' starting running back.It appears he'd be ahead of Travis Henry even if Henry was healthy. To near his goal at all, Young needs to convince Mike Shanahan that he can be an every-down back. It's a long shot, but Young, who's up to 6'0/212 after playing 2007 at 205 lbs, is bigger and stronger than last year. "I feel totally different," he said. "I feel like more of a, if I can use the word, beast." Shanahan says he's "looking for a running back who has the ability to give us that 5 yards a carry." Young averaged 5.2 YPC last season. Henry averaged only 4.1.Source: Denver PostRelated: Travis Henry
Wow. Is this blurb really in context? I'll give him props for gaining some weight but 2,000 is a touch much. Gotta link for the whole story? I'm curious who wrote it.Selvin Young, who's let it be known that his 2008 goal is to rush for 2,000 yards, will open training camp as the Broncos' starting running back.It appears he'd be ahead of Travis Henry even if Henry was healthy. To near his goal at all, Young needs to convince Mike Shanahan that he can be an every-down back. It's a long shot, but Young, who's up to 6'0/212 after playing 2007 at 205 lbs, is bigger and stronger than last year. "I feel totally different," he said. "I feel like more of a, if I can use the word, beast." Shanahan says he's "looking for a running back who has the ability to give us that 5 yards a carry." Young averaged 5.2 YPC last season. Henry averaged only 4.1.Source: Denver PostRelated: Travis Henry
It was on rotoworld.Wow. Is this blurb really in context? I'll give him props for gaining some weight but 2,000 is a touch much. Gotta link for the whole story? I'm curious who wrote it.Selvin Young, who's let it be known that his 2008 goal is to rush for 2,000 yards, will open training camp as the Broncos' starting running back.It appears he'd be ahead of Travis Henry even if Henry was healthy. To near his goal at all, Young needs to convince Mike Shanahan that he can be an every-down back. It's a long shot, but Young, who's up to 6'0/212 after playing 2007 at 205 lbs, is bigger and stronger than last year. "I feel totally different," he said. "I feel like more of a, if I can use the word, beast." Shanahan says he's "looking for a running back who has the ability to give us that 5 yards a carry." Young averaged 5.2 YPC last season. Henry averaged only 4.1.Source: Denver PostRelated: Travis Henry
There's a follow-up article (the article that the original blurb was taken from) right here"The key to that to me is staying healthy," said Young, who a year ago was trying to break in as an undrafted rookie. "Everything else, I believe in wholeheartedly. It's not like I said something to try to get a laugh or to smile or to get people to pay attention to me. It's something I believe is in me."
An interesting compare of stats versus a homer who watches the games.sorry man, but you are remembering incorrectly about charles and young...selvin only "started" out of mack brown's loyalty..and it most critical situations it was charles in there.Selvin young statsHmmm....not quite what I remember about Selvin. He was very highly recruited out of HS. He is a good, not great runner. He can run between the tackles quite well, has decent hands and good in pass protection. Overall, he is a complete RB with good, but not great running skills. He suffered a severe broken ankle injury in the 2004 season and wasn't healthy in 2005 which is why Charles got most of the RB work in 2005. Young came back healthy in 2006 and clearly beat out Jamaal Charles for the top spot. He did not start just because he was a senior. He was a better overall RB, especially when it came to blocking for his freshman QB.If I'm wrong I'll gladly eat my words, because I've heard he's a good kid. But he couldn't beat out Cedric Benson (which was understandable), then when Cedric was drafted he couldn't beat out Jamaal Charles (who was a true freshman). Last year he started over Charles as a senior, but I think this was more due to him being a senior versus him being the better player. Charles had more rushes (156 to 137), more yards (831 to 591), and better YPC (5.3 to 4.3). Selvin did have more catches (23 to 18) but fewer receiving yards.Charles is an upper level back in the Big 12, but if Selvin can't beat him out or outproduce him, how will he be able to do that against NFL talent?:mustmakementalnoteandbumplater:Selvin Young went to University of Texas in Austin, where I live. I've seen him play many times. He's not an instinctual runner. He's got fumblitis. He gets hurt all the time. Selvin wasn't the best RB on UT's team last year, and he definitely won't be in Denver. IMO he is not going to be a starting RB in the NFL.
Jamaal Charles Stats
Who says he's RB#1? Last thing I heard about Selvin Young was Shanahan saying he was the sort of guy who would never in his career carry the workload. That could always change, of course, but that's what I'm going off of for the moment. I don't think anything's really changed except for the name of the back he's going to be platooning with.so now that he appears to be RB#1, what are his 2008 projections?
crazy how the game changes... seems it was just a short time ago that the Denver RB was the one to be had at all costs.too early to tell, position is too unstable to predict, and Young is a potato chip fragile RB.
Also, Shanahan is a nut, you never know what Denver RB will emerge from the pack.
honestly, its best to stay away from the Denver RB situation at all costs..