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Serious Biz Dynasty Year 18 - Now with a poorly formatted table of champions (16 Viewers)

I'll continue to beat this drum: Aside from the Top 5 lotto ticket afforded to the losers, this draft helps the present-day contending teams more than it does the struggling + rebuilding teams.

I'm in like Year 4 of trying to put something together that isn't awful. I'm searching minor league stats and carefully picking my spots. And, inevitably, I will lose 2-3 good young players/prospects in this thing to teams that are much better than mine.

Meanwhile, the rest of you with good MLB talent will cash in from your recent title runs AND trade in the likes of Adam Wainwright and Andrew McCutchen for useful youngsters from rebuilding rosters. There is rarely an exposure of long-range value pieces from any of those rosters because they (rightfully) prioritize protecting their long list of studs and short lists of prospects. What's left exposed is aging, replaceable depth pieces.
 
I'll continue to beat this drum: Aside from the Top 5 lotto ticket afforded to the losers, this draft helps the present-day contending teams more than it does the struggling + rebuilding teams.

I'm in like Year 4 of trying to put something together that isn't awful. I'm searching minor league stats and carefully picking my spots. And, inevitably, I will lose 2-3 good young players/prospects in this thing to teams that are much better than mine.

Meanwhile, the rest of you with good MLB talent will cash in from your recent title runs AND trade in the likes of Adam Wainwright and Andrew McCutchen for useful youngsters from rebuilding rosters. There is rarely an exposure of long-range value pieces from any of those rosters because they (rightfully) prioritize protecting their long list of studs and short lists of prospects. What's left exposed is aging, replaceable depth pieces

It's only Nick Lodolo
 
I'll continue to beat this drum: Aside from the Top 5 lotto ticket afforded to the losers, this draft helps the present-day contending teams more than it does the struggling + rebuilding teams.

I'm in like Year 4 of trying to put something together that isn't awful. I'm searching minor league stats and carefully picking my spots. And, inevitably, I will lose 2-3 good young players/prospects in this thing to teams that are much better than mine.

Meanwhile, the rest of you with good MLB talent will cash in from your recent title runs AND trade in the likes of Adam Wainwright and Andrew McCutchen for useful youngsters from rebuilding rosters. There is rarely an exposure of long-range value pieces from any of those rosters because they (rightfully) prioritize protecting their long list of studs and short lists of prospects. What's left exposed is aging, replaceable depth pieces

It's only Nick Lodolo
... who I drafted in the 2020 supplemental draft and protected as a keeper in 2021, 2022 and 2023 only to hand him to the defending league champion for his age 26 season and beyond because I had to choose whether to protect him coming off an injury season or protect a Top 100 prospect.
 
I'll continue to beat this drum: Aside from the Top 5 lotto ticket afforded to the losers, this draft helps the present-day contending teams more than it does the struggling + rebuilding teams.

I'm in like Year 4 of trying to put something together that isn't awful. I'm searching minor league stats and carefully picking my spots. And, inevitably, I will lose 2-3 good young players/prospects in this thing to teams that are much better than mine.

I don't know if there's a better way to manage stockpiling of assets. This draft is fun but it hasn't significantly shifted the balance of power. Some good players have changed hands in past minidrafts but these seem to be more random events than a clear trend of the rich getting richer.

It's still very hard to do a teardown and rebuild. Even the reverse draft order has its limitations because top prospects don't always pan out.
 
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I agree with @RnR 100%, and have said the same thing over the years. It's part of the reason why we have given up on stockpiling prospects ourselves. I also hate saves plus holds fwiw. The draft is fun though.
 
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My biggest grievance with this league has always been the lack of trade offers and general trade activities. I assume it's because all you nerds are in multiple leagues, but this has been my only league for probably the last ten years and I need more action.
 
I agree with @RnR 100%, and have said the same thing over the years. It's part of the reason why we have given up on stockpiling prospects ourselves. I also hate saves plus holds fwiw.

For as much as I used to enjoy chasing saves, I think the change to saves+holds makes sense in this format. It keeps everybody more focused on acquiring long-term talent rather than temporary gratification from a pitcher assigned a specific role.

The floor is open for other suggestions to improve balance next year.
 
Some of this talk is nonsense, especially PIK who has 20 prospects at any one time, then tries to trade three of the ****ty ones for Juan Soto and gets mad you won’t trade. If you make the choice to completely gut your team, and not even attempt to compete, that’s mostly on you.

PIK has done this for years after he won the league while I was gone. Two other owners have done similar, and Jake chose from the beginning to start over.

If you have minor leaguers in your starting lineup, you are doing this wrong. I finished 10th and 9th my first two years, and occasionally had a minor league player or two in starting sports. I never had multiple players in those spots, and filling them with major leaguers allowed me to not only finish higher each year, but I found several long term assets. I wasn’t just sitting there hoping my #5 prospect was gonna be in the All Star game in his rookie year.

I should have won the league two years ago scoring 104 points or whatever, but lost because I carried too many prospects instead of use Sparty strategy to max out games and then some. I don’t think that is in the spirit of fantasy baseball but I’m more mad I hadn’t thought of it myself.

My pitching staff is horrific, it’s old and poopy. I made trades to try and fix it, but every time I look for young pitchers the bottom teams have 10 of them on their rooster and don’t want to trade. So sure I can get Lance Lynn every year, but if he blows up like last year I’m basically screwed. Even trading for a shiny turd like ERod is tough.

That said one owner has figured out how to rebuild, and I think he’ll be in the money this year. Instead of whining maybe look at how he’s done it. @Northern Voice

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Hint: I tried to trade Adolis Garcia the past two years and the price wasn’t high. I got exactly ZERO queries. Why? Old prospect. Result? Two top 30 finishes. Teams in the second division should be trading to get guys like that, or solid vets to fill out their roosters.

But they have a dozen TINSTAPPs and are waiting for Jo Adell to finally break out. Again, that’s on you.
 
There are pitchers every year who come out of nowhere to become useful major leagues contributors. I've always thought rebuilding teams would be better off trying to roster these types rather than continually cycling through pitching prospects.

Even if the rest of the team isn't ready, a decent pitcher can always be traded. You don't want to be caught out without enough MLB innings when your hitters mature because it takes time to build a staff from the ground up.
 
Some of this talk is nonsense, especially PIK who has 20 prospects at any one time, then tries to trade three of the ****ty ones for Juan Soto and gets mad you won’t trade. If you make the choice to completely gut your team, and not even attempt to compete, that’s mostly on you.

PIK has done this for years after he won the league while I was gone. Two other owners have done similar, and Jake chose from the beginning to start over.

If you have minor leaguers in your starting lineup, you are doing this wrong. I finished 10th and 9th my first two years, and occasionally had a minor league player or two in starting sports. I never had multiple players in those spots, and filling them with major leaguers allowed me to not only finish higher each year, but I found several long term assets. I wasn’t just sitting there hoping my #5 prospect was gonna be in the All Star game in his rookie year.

I should have won the league two years ago scoring 104 points or whatever, but lost because I carried too many prospects instead of use Sparty strategy to max out games and then some. I don’t think that is in the spirit of fantasy baseball but I’m more mad I hadn’t thought of it myself.

My pitching staff is horrific, it’s old and poopy. I made trades to try and fix it, but every time I look for young pitchers the bottom teams have 10 of them on their rooster and don’t want to trade. So sure I can get Lance Lynn every year, but if he blows up like last year I’m basically screwed. Even trading for a shiny turd like ERod is tough.

That said one owner has figured out how to rebuild, and I think he’ll be in the money this year. Instead of whining maybe look at how he’s done it. @Northern Voice

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Our team doesn't have many prospects at all, and didn't last year either fwiw. Sometimes I will send offers to get talks started. 99% of the time it's crickets. Just makes it boring is all. I'm not actually mad. We have tried vets for prospects AND prospects for vets. Neither usually gets any engagement fwiw.
 
That said one owner has figured out how to rebuild, and I think he’ll be in the money this year. Instead of whining maybe look at how he’s done it. @Northern Voice

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I was going to comment this earlier, when Eephus commented on so many first round picks from last year being dropped but it felt way too look at me...

I grabbed Senga, Camineiro, Berrios and traded my 4th pick with a prospect for Bohm and all four made my protected list this year.

That said. Look at me. I've never won anything though. I do think the draft can be used to build. So can trades, prospects etc... I guess we'll see if at some point I actually win some money.
 
There are pitchers every year who come out of nowhere to become useful major leagues contributors. I've always thought rebuilding teams would be better off trying to roster these types rather than continually cycling through pitching prospects.

Even if the rest of the team isn't ready, a decent pitcher can always be traded. You don't want to be caught out without enough MLB innings when your hitters mature because it takes time to build a staff from the ground up.
I’d rather see a Nick Lodolo meltdown. Thank you.
 
There are pitchers every year who come out of nowhere to become useful major leagues contributors. I've always thought rebuilding teams would be better off trying to roster these types rather than continually cycling through pitching prospects.
This was the 2021 realization that turned my fortunes around. My pitching prospects were all :deadbanana: and with a really good offense entering its prime I didn't have time to start a new cycle. So I went churning through the post-hype dumpster bin and found Logan Webb and Dylan Cease, and here we are two titles later.

There is such a thing as a pitching prospect, but a lot of them don't hit for the guy who holds them for 5 years and then sadly drops them after a brutal debut. They hit for the guy who sees them toss a gem while on the wire and says "Hey, wasn't he supposed to be good once?" and takes a flier.
 
There are pitchers every year who come out of nowhere to become useful major leagues contributors. I've always thought rebuilding teams would be better off trying to roster these types rather than continually cycling through pitching prospects.
This was the 2021 realization that turned my fortunes around. My pitching prospects were all :deadbanana: and with a really good offense entering its prime I didn't have time to start a new cycle. So I went churning through the post-hype dumpster bin and found Logan Webb and Dylan Cease, and here we are two titles later.

There is such a thing as a pitching prospect, but a lot of them don't hit for the guy who holds them for 5 years and then sadly drops them after a brutal debut. They hit for the guy who sees them toss a gem while on the wire and says "Hey, wasn't he supposed to be good once?" and takes a flier.
Mitch Keller comes to mind...
 

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