Several Cowboys & Texans Test Positive for COVID19 (1 Viewer)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Can you share these charts and are they at all recent?

They were from over a month ago - I honestly don’t remember where they were from. I just know I remember those data points from a selfish standpoint, along with the 70-80 age group being around 8% since that’s where both my parents fell.

IIRC they had the 0-5 year old rates around 0% as well, which we now know to be slightly inaccurate.

i think your point highlights some of the difficulty in using data to make compelling points since it changes so often with more testing / understanding / evidence.

I don’t pretend to be an epidemiologist. i spent 20 years in project management - I’m usually better than I was above witn data points. But one constant is risk assessment. It’s a huge part of PM, along with contingency planning. So when I look at the risks the NFL has to their season from an infection / quarantine standpoint, I see a mess. That’s a professional opinion. It’s a mess. I’m not sure how it’ll be possible. But like many of you, I’ll draft a team & pray for the best. 

 

[Cobbler1]

They were from over a month ago - I honestly don’t remember where they were from. I just know I remember those data points from a selfish standpoint, along with the 70-80 age group being around 8% since that’s where both my parents fell.

IIRC they had the 0-5 year old rates around 0% as well, which we now know to be slightly inaccurate.

i think your point highlights some of the difficulty in using data to make compelling points since it changes so often with more testing / understanding / evidence.

I don’t pretend to be an epidemiologist. i spent 20 years in project management - I’m usually better than I was above witn data points. But one constant is risk assessment. It’s a huge part of PM, along with contingency planning. So when I look at the risks the NFL has to their season from an infection / quarantine standpoint, I see a mess. That’s a professional opinion. It’s a mess. I’m not sure how it’ll be possible. But like many of you, I’ll draft a team & pray for the best. 

Well rest easier at night then because as a healthy almost 50 year old your odds of dying are much much lower than 3%. This should make you happy! The chart Dr O posted from the CDC showed .14% for 50-64 so as the lowest part of that age range you’d be significantly lower than that .14% to start. And I believe that’s just infections as the denominator in the calculation when really you’d be multiplying the denominator by 4-8 to account for cases that occurred but were never tested. And then you’d divide those even smaller odds by another number if you don’t have any underlying conditions. 
 

No question it’s a mess to run any business in these times, much less one with thousands of employees across the country very much in the public eye. I remain optimistic though.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Well rest easier at night then because as a healthy almost 50 year old your odds of dying are much much lower than 3%.

the next few months of potentially exponential growth should produce enough data to develop far better understanding than we have now. It’s difficult to know what to have faith in or not at this point, in the unique position the United States is in. 

I’ll likely only rest easier when there’s a vaccine.  Two 74 year old parents, both with preexisting conditions tends to make one a bit nervous. 

odds are a funny thing....I don’t know if you saw my thread a while back about a puppy I had last year.  She had a 1:10,000 chance of dying during spay surgery, as a healthy 6 mo old puppy.  But those odds sure seem a lot higher when you’re the 1. 

So back to the healthy 26 y/o NFL player. It is not impossible for one to catch COVID & die from it. Just unlikely.

So back to the subject of risk assessment & contingency planning - I don’t think anyone actually answered the question.

Do you think the NFL season would continue if a player died? 

What if it’s a coach or member of a coaching staff?

What about a stadium worker?

In the unlikely event that happens, does the season continue? Or is there a firestorm of public / political pressure for being irresponsible for playing in the 1st place?

same question applies to any of the major sports, so it may not even make it to the NFL if it happens with MLB or NBA. So follow-up Q:

if anyone in the NBA or MLB (players/coaching/staff/league officials) succumb to COVID, will there be an NFL season? Or would that stick a fork in all sports for the foreseeable future? 

i don’t see those as unreasonable questions to be asking in the context of this topic. 

 

[IheartGuinness]

Per CDC through June 17 breakdown of deaths by age:

Under 1 .008%

1-5 .005%

5-14 .013%

25-34 .676%

35-44 1.72%

55-64 4.815%

75-84 26.640%

65-74 20.76%

85 years and older 33.322%

And 42% of all deaths occurred in nursing homes.

Wow. Much lower than I thought. Thanks for this. 

 

[Vandelay]

Per CDC through June 17 breakdown of deaths by age:

Under 1 .008%

1-5 .005%

5-14 .013%

25-34 .676%

35-44 1.72%

55-64 4.815%

75-84 26.640%

65-74 20.76%

85 years and older 33.322%

And 42% of all deaths occurred in nursing homes.

45-54 is missing.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

45-54 is missing.

I edited it in.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

a very thorough & well considered response. I agree with much of it. 

Most of the major sports secretly hopes someone else's league steps up first and takes the brunt of any lessons to be learned the hard way.

This is a good observation & I agree. I feel like the NFL is biding it’s time to see if:

1. A vaccine emerges in time

2. another league bites the bullet, either from a setback or hitting the limits of what is logistically feasible.

In that regard the NFL is in a more advantageous position due to the timing. they have the luxury of watching the other major sports try to start a season & either have success or possibly have stop it. 

I think you’re spot on that their best move would be to bag it & start planning for 2021,  but there’s likely just way too much money on the table for that. 

in my business i have various insurance policies. Some have to do with manufacturing, warehousing, trucking. There are several “act of god” exemptions that I had to address when this first hit. I now pay a little more to cover an event like “kitchen shuts down with $$$$$ worth of my product waiting to be cleared by the state in the whse” because the policies covered lightning & earthquake, but not plague. 

what a time to be alive.  

 

[Deamon]

Your decimal seems to be in the wrong place. I guess lumping in 20-39 ages helped lower it? 
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

1000 out of 125k is just under 1% for 40-45.

This is actually mind blowing stuff.  So since ONE PERCENT OF THE COVID DEATHS are ages 40-45, he has translated that to a 1% mortality rate among all the people in that age group who get Covid????

1% of Covid deaths being aged 40-45 does not mean a 40-45 year old who gets covid has a 1% chance of dying. 

 

[Deamon]

You are looking at the percentage of total deaths (that age group does make up 1%) not the rates of death per infections.

That's the percentage of deaths in that age group versus overall deaths. That doesn't speak to the likelihood of Tom Brady dying if he got Covid-19. That would come from the first chart (deaths per infection rate) which shows he'd have a .0092% of dying.

Lol omg. Is this where the disconnect is coming from? HSG thinking percentage of deaths is mortality rate?

Sorry didn't see all these responses before posting mine.  It's wild to me how those numbers could be misrepresented like that.  Percentage of deaths is way way way different than percentage of cases.  And additional testing would ABSOLUTELY lower the numbers... it's not a simple safety net statement of "we don't know that".  Yes, more testing would show more cases, not negative cases... I would hope that most of the actual deaths are tracked and there aren't thousands of deceased people in their homes never to be found.  So if everyone in the USA was tested, these already very low mortality rates for people under 50 would be much much much lower.

I don't think anyone said this spreads less than the flu.  The symptoms are similar to the common flu though, no worse.  But this thing spreads way way easier so we must make sure we are protecting groups that actually have a chance to die from this.  Asking the question 'will the nfl season happen if a player dies" is a little pointless as it won't happen. 

I personally think the season should go on, with daily testing of players (funded by the NFL, not taking away from testing of the public), and some of the income the NFL is getting should go towards masks, testing of the public, etc. etc.  Would be great if having the NFL season could use their voice and money and actually help people with this horrible virus.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

No vaccine will be developed in time.
 

of course not. Standard turnaround is about 18 months, and possibly longer.

but I do believe that falls within the realm of what the NFL is considering.

 

[menobrown]

No vaccine will be developed in time. This approach defies everything established on how modern medicine works and has always worked. Even fast tracked and with a close to unlimited financial warchest and the entire world working on it with cooperation, it's not going to happen.

If a vaccine was developed, why would the NFL be a priority?

Teams and coaches got death threats for not drafting Michael Sam. Then again for cutting him if he was actually on their team. So what's going to happen if you prioritize vaccines for the NFL over other areas deemed more critical to the basic survival of the entire human race?  How well will players play with their wives and mothers begging them to leave?

NFL Security doesn't have the manpower, even combined with each team's internal security, to provide security for even one closed off isolation field/site, much less  the 3 to 4 needed to run a season. They'll have to hire "contractors", which is fine, the NFL already has some on retainer, many for international games.

Now you'll have players and their families, mostly black, under heavily armed guard (these guys aren't going to ex cops and ex federal law enforcement, you will have legitimate shooters with actual trigger time involved), with a good chance to be predominately white, in locked down location ( basically a prison) for the purposes of entertaining the masses? In a social/political climate as currently with black Americans deciding it will riot over which picture is on a box of rice?

For those who think an NFL season is going to happen, at what consequence?

It's hard to make money when you don't have means to handle the fallout of your players dying on you. It's hard to make money when your talent base will operate in will essentially become a forced labor camp. It's hard to make money when your liability risk EXPONENTIALLY outweighs what will amount to a fraction of your projected revenue otherwise.

There will be no NFL season this year.

Might be the oddest post I've read in awhile.

 

[Faust]

Risk of never fully recovering after coronavirus ‘very real,’ scientists say

 

[joey]

Hate to :whitestar: this thread since I don’t know if I want to be dragged too far into this debate but...

lots of focus on the players, their age group and health. But isn’t it the staff, coaches, etc who are most at risk (most NFL coaches I can think of are +50 years old). Are they more replaceable? How many of them can test positive and sit out a few weeks and have their jobs absorbed by the remaining, healthy staff around them without adversely affecting the team? I’m more concerned about the bubble of staff (NFL , team, stadium, etc) around the players than the players themselves (who are in peak form). 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Risk of never fully recovering after coronavirus ‘very real,’ scientists say

Yeah, I’d mentioned this earlier. For symptomatic cases, people who recovered have reported shortness of breath months after recovery. That includes my friend from my FBB league. 38, runner & can’t walk up a flight of stairs without getting winded. Lungs are still recovering from even a mild-moderate case. Docs say they have no idea how long it’ll take or if he’ll be 100% again. 

to me this adds fuel to the “will players be willing to risk it if they have all the info” fire. Tough proposition to evaluate given the unknowns. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Hate to :whitestar: this thread since I don’t know if I want to be dragged too far into this debate but...

lots of focus on the players, their age group and health. But isn’t it the staff, coaches, etc who are most at risk (most NFL coaches I can think of are +50 years old). Are they more replaceable? How many of them can test positive and sit out a few weeks and have their jobs absorbed by the remaining, healthy staff around them without adversely affecting the team? I’m more concerned about the bubble of staff (NFL , team, stadium, etc) around the players than the players themselves (who are in peak form). 

I don’t think anyone is going to drag you for this. It’s a reasonable position & points that many have made in here. Players, team personnel, coaching staffs. Add in stadium personnel - even without fans there’s security, police, EMTs, linemen, photogs & camera operators - it’s incredible how many people it takes to make the game we all love.

all those people could be a problem though, and the age range is likely something like 19-70..  

 

[Jedi Knight]

This is what scares me about the season.  It's not just the death(s) of a star player/coach...or any player/coach for that matter...but the consequences of what it can do to you without killing you.

What they don't tell you...

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

This is what scares me about the season.  It's not just the death(s) of a star player/coach...or any player/coach for that matter...but the consequences of what it can do to you without killing you.

What they don't tell you...

I’d seen some of that before but reading through it completely - man, just a horror movie come to life. 

 

[Cobbler1]

the next few months of potentially exponential growth should produce enough data to develop far better understanding than we have now. It’s difficult to know what to have faith in or not at this point, in the unique position the United States is in. 

I’ll likely only rest easier when there’s a vaccine.  Two 74 year old parents, both with preexisting conditions tends to make one a bit nervous. 

odds are a funny thing....I don’t know if you saw my thread a while back about a puppy I had last year.  She had a 1:10,000 chance of dying during spay surgery, as a healthy 6 mo old puppy.  But those odds sure seem a lot higher when you’re the 1. 

So back to the healthy 26 y/o NFL player. It is not impossible for one to catch COVID & die from it. Just unlikely.

So back to the subject of risk assessment & contingency planning - I don’t think anyone actually answered the question.

Do you think the NFL season would continue if a player died? 

What if it’s a coach or member of a coaching staff?

What about a stadium worker?

In the unlikely event that happens, does the season continue? Or is there a firestorm of public / political pressure for being irresponsible for playing in the 1st place?

same question applies to any of the major sports, so it may not even make it to the NFL if it happens with MLB or NBA. So follow-up Q:

if anyone in the NBA or MLB (players/coaching/staff/league officials) succumb to COVID, will there be an NFL season? Or would that stick a fork in all sports for the foreseeable future? 

i don’t see those as unreasonable questions to be asking in the context of this topic. 

Sorry man, busy day just getting to this now. I have lots of thoughts but not the time right now to go into much detail.

Player death- likely shuts it down. I think the NFL could attempt to defend it as an extremely unlikely event that happened to happen even with the best care and testing so there’s an avenue to working around it.

Coach death- this would be a worse look to me especially if the coach is older/high risk. Now the NFL looks more culpable and it’s a more repeatable risk. I think this would shut it down and I think the NFL will put a ton of focus on making sure this doesn’t happen. Put the coaches in freaking enclosed golf carts. In masks and shields. You wanna come out and demonstrate something to a player? Not until both you and the player are masked up. And maybe we only allow that 2 practices a week. Maybe the sideline is only for masked coaches, players have to go directly to the bench without getting close to the coaches. They can be approached only once they’ve had a mask on. Maybe we approach in the golf cart here too. Or at least a shield in addition to the mask.

Stadium worker- probably would take a couple incidences to shut it down. I’m sure they’ll be masked at all times and will distance from each other and the players. There won’t be fans so won’t be nearly as many stadium workers. Ideally we’d furlough (paid!) the older ones but age discrimination laws may not allow that. 
 

I don’t think another sport suffering a death will shut it down. The rest will say they’re different.

 

[Deamon]

lots of focus on the players, their age group and health.

That's because this thread is meant to discuss the players that were diagnosed with Covid and the effect on them. 
 

 But isn’t it the staff, coaches, etc who are most at risk (most NFL coaches I can think of are +50 years old)

Still very very unlikely for any coach or staff to get severely ill.  Especially with daily tests and top medical attention.  Only 20% of Covid deaths are under 65.  And of those, 75-99% of all of those deaths had serious preexisting conditions.  I'm assuming if there's a staff member, coach, security guard, or janitor that's elderly and has a serious health condition, he'll probably not work this season.  All others have an extremely small chance of serious illness from this.

 

[Deamon]

Player death- likely shuts it down. I think the NFL could attempt to defend it as an extremely unlikely event that happened to happen even with the best care and testing so there’s an avenue to working around it.

Coach death- this would be a worse look to me especially if the coach is older/high risk. Now the NFL looks more culpable and it’s a more repeatable risk. I think this would shut it down and I think the NFL will put a ton of focus on making sure this doesn’t happen. Put the coaches in freaking enclosed golf carts. In masks and shields. You wanna come out and demonstrate something to a player? Not until both you and the player are masked up. And maybe we only allow that 2 practices a week. Maybe the sideline is only for masked coaches, players have to go directly to the bench without getting close to the coaches. They can be approached only once they’ve had a mask on. Maybe we approach in the golf cart here too. Or at least a shield in addition to the mask.

Stadium worker- probably would take a couple incidences to shut it down. I’m sure they’ll be masked at all times and will distance from each other and the players. There won’t be fans so won’t be nearly as many stadium workers. Ideally we’d furlough (paid!) the older ones but age discrimination laws may not allow that.

All good points here.  People are acting like all these old staff members with health issues are going to be running around in contact with people though.  The NFL has made some dumb moves over the years, but I don't think they're going to take any chances they don't have to.  If Sam the 80 year old janitor with an immune-deficiency wants to come back to work, I'm quite confident the NFL or the team will find a way to pay him to be on leave and not come to work.  If any assistant coaches are highly susceptible and elderly, I'm sure the league finds a way to isolate them in the stadium on game days. 

For every post in here of a concern a fan has about someone in the NFL becoming extremely ill/dying, I'm sure the league and owners who have billions on the line, will also be thinking about them and doing what it takes.  I hope so, anyways.

 

[joey]

That's because this thread is meant to discuss the players that were diagnosed with Covid and the effect on them. 
 

Still very very unlikely for any coach or staff to get severely ill.  Especially with daily tests and top medical attention.  Only 20% of Covid deaths are under 65.  And of those, 75-99% of all of those deaths had serious preexisting conditions.  I'm assuming if there's a staff member, coach, security guard, or janitor that's elderly and has a serious health condition, he'll probably not work this season.  All others have an extremely small chance of serious illness from this.

See. There you go, dragging me into the mud when there was no reason to.

first of all, who are YOU to put such strict guard rails on this thread? Especially when the OP said that we should keep this to football. Not football PLAYERS. Football. Last I checked, coaches and staff are part of football. 
 

second of all,,

...out. 

 

[Deamon]

See. There you go, dragging me in. 

first of all, who are YOU to put such strict guard rails on this thread? Especially when the OP said that we should keep this to football. Not football PLAYERS. Football. Last I checked, coaches and staff are part of football. 
 

second of all,,

...out. 

I'm not.  You mentioned how there was so much talk on players.  So I told you it's because the thread is about the players. 

 

[joey]

I'm not.  You mentioned how there was so much talk on players.  So I told you it's because the thread is about the players. 

Wow. You’re a real pleasure. 

 

[Deamon]

Wow. You’re a real pleasure. 

Thanks, you too.  But try to keep this on football.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

So here’s one positive: it seems like we’re getting closer to really figuring out what causes transmission. 

Translating the recommendations here with football, I don’t think it’s going out on a limb to suggest there won’t be fans in attendance.

as for distancing, it’s also hard to imagine a locker room or huddle or tackle with distancing.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-exactly-do-you-catch-covid-19-there-is-a-growing-consensus-11592317650?mod=wsjtwittertest19

 

[Doug B]

So here’s one positive: it seems like we’re getting closer to really figuring out what causes transmission. 

The article is all good information. The items covered in the WSJ article were all pretty much firmed up by early April, when the CDC's guidance started downplaying fomites and more pointedly recommend source-control face coverings.

 

[Mongidig]

So here’s one positive: it seems like we’re getting closer to really figuring out what causes transmission. 

Translating the recommendations here with football, I don’t think it’s going out on a limb to suggest there won’t be fans in attendance.

as for distancing, it’s also hard to imagine a locker room or huddle or tackle with distancing.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-exactly-do-you-catch-covid-19-there-is-a-growing-consensus-11592317650?mod=wsjtwittertest19

They could have fans as long as they don't scream or yell. They can just politely clap. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

They could have fans as long as they don't scream or yell. They can just politely clap. 

 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The article is all good information. The items covered in the WSJ article were all pretty much firmed up by early April, when the CDC's guidance started downplaying fomites and more pointedly recommend source-control face coverings.

That part is old news but for quite a while equal weight was given to dermal contact transmission.

From this update it sounds like the chances of getting it from a surface are very low.

also fleeting casual contact isn’t a high risk, which is good news for front line workers dealing with the public. interact with 30-50 people every sat/sun, (outdoors) so that puts me a little more at ease knowing it’s low risk provided we’re all wearing masks.

 

[yoman]

They could have fans as long as they don't scream or yell. They can just politely clap. 

  Cowboys fans only know how to communicate by screaming or yelling so this  obviously wouldn't work for them.

I think I remember reading on one of the threads on this site that they were going to use fake crowd noise and images of fans during broadcasts.  It will be business as usual for the crappy teams that already have to resort to playing fake crowd noise.

 

[Deamon]

  Cowboys fans only know how to communicate by screaming or yelling so this  obviously wouldn't work for them.

I think I remember reading on one of the threads on this site that they were going to use fake crowd noise and images of fans during broadcasts.  It will be business as usual for the crappy teams that already have to resort to playing fake crowd noise.

C'mon, Garrett was the king of the polite clap.

 

[huthut]

I feel like I am getting too involved in strategy for fantasy football this year, going to feel more disappointed if the season is cancelled or shortened due to Covid. 

 

[RushHour]

So here’s one positive: it seems like we’re getting closer to really figuring out what causes transmission. 

Translating the recommendations here with football, I don’t think it’s going out on a limb to suggest there won’t be fans in attendance.

as for distancing, it’s also hard to imagine a locker room or huddle or tackle with distancing.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-exactly-do-you-catch-covid-19-there-is-a-growing-consensus-11592317650?mod=wsjtwittertest19

If they want to have at hope of a season, they can't seriously be considering having fans in attendance. You'd think no crowds is a baseline requirement at this point. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I feel like I am getting too involved in strategy for fantasy football this year, going to feel more disappointed if the season is cancelled or shortened due to Covid. 

Been there, done that with FBB.  

I have such a good 6x6 Ro Ro+H2H lineup. Power, speed, depth - I did so much pre-work, that it was one of those drafts where I was so completely prepared it almost felt unfair. Picks that fell to me didn’t make it past me. I drafted perfectly for our format, and got every one of my targets every round. Nabbed all my sleepers too. 

and they haven’t played a single inning.  

I loathe the idea of going through that again. But I’m sure I will. We just picked a draft date. Now I’ve gotta get motivated for it. Usually that’s an easy call. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

  Cowboys fans only know how to communicate by screaming or yelling so this  obviously wouldn't work for them.

I think I remember reading on one of the threads on this site that they were going to use fake crowd noise and images of fans during broadcasts.  It will be business as usual for the crappy teams that already have to resort to playing fake crowd noise.

If only New Orleans were still the Aints. They’d be COVID19-ready what with the paper bags.  

 

[Mongidig]

I feel like I am getting too involved in strategy for fantasy football this year, going to feel more disappointed if the season is cancelled or shortened due to Covid. 

Me too!

I have all the time in the world but very little desire to do any research. I feel like I will be doing some cramming this year...Hopefully!

 

[Mongidig]

If only New Orleans were still the Aints. They’d be COVID19-ready what with the paper bags.  

Half of them probably wouldn't wear the bags.

 

[Mongidig]

If states can get serious right now about Covid there is a chance for a season. Arizona just shut down bars, gyms, movie theatres, water parks etc for a month. That's a start in addition to the mask wearing. It will take a few weeks before we start seeing results.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If states can get serious right now about Covid there is a chance for a season. Arizona just shut down bars, gyms, movie theatres, water parks etc for a month. That's a start in addition to the mask wearing. It will take a few weeks before we start seeing results.

Yep. 2 months is enough time to bring this thing under control. 

without getting too “politics forum” even Mitch McConnell told people to wear masks today. That feels like a turning point, societally. 

but since there’s an anti-mask “movement” out there it’s hard to hold out hope that science wins.

I read if everyone wore a mask for a couple of months, we’d see 80%+ reduction in new cases. That would conceivably be enough to get this to a manageable level where contact tracing would be effective.

IF that can happen (and it’s a big if) I’ll be a lot more optimistic about an NFL season. 

 

[I-ROK]

it’s hard to hold out hope that science wins.

This isn’t science, it’s a pandemic!

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

This isn’t science, it’s a pandemic!

Wut

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Well that would require a mandate from our president. Not gonna happen. He values typical life very little. 
 

This will drag on. Eventually a vaccine will come out. Hopefully loss of life is minimized. The poor folks at the nursing homes are stuck. Can’t get away and have no control. 

I feel the same. I don’t wanna be accused of being all doom & gloom though so I’m trying to look at the best case scenario. It’s at least possible. 

 

[DallasDMac]

I feel the same. I don’t wanna be accused of being all doom & gloom though so I’m trying to look at the best case scenario. It’s at least possible. 

At this point, I think it is fair to say no one is counting on him to be of any help with this.

 

[joey]

I feel like I am getting too involved in strategy for fantasy football this year, going to feel more disappointed if the season is cancelled or shortened due to Covid. 

I’m the opposite. Besides the FFPC rookie draft that happened in April/May, I haven’t put any effort into prepping for the new year. Every time I think of sending an email to the dynasty leagues I commish and co-commish to discuss league rules for a possible shortened season, I think "what’s the use? This will probably all change between now and early August" and I jut put it off. I know it will end up meaning we'll be cramming to fit in some voting on rule and our drafts, but just not worth sending an email, deciding, then things change, send more emails, decide again. Procrastination has served me well before, so why not now  

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Every time I think of sending an email to the dynasty leagues I commish and co-commish to discuss league rules for a possible shortened season, I think "what’s the use?

for the league I commission it was like pulling off a bandaid. Bite the bullet & get the convo going. Your league will appreciate it. I’ve been commishing this league for ~14 years, and I was surprised about how flexible & reasonable everyone was. 

it’s a crap discussion to have, but it’s one every league should be back right now IMO. Of course stuff will change, but better to start having a framework now that can be adapted than scrambling if things do start up again.  

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I am starting a new league through leaguesafe. Basically if we get heavy interruptions before week 8 it is a refund. And we play for free. Heavy interruptions means several players with sickness. 

Yeah - we all agreed to pay for the site renewal & pay the rest as an amount due of the season goes off without a hitch.

if anything stops the season, no one owes anything. 

i trust all these guys. We’re all local. 

 

[IheartGuinness]

Well that would require a mandate from our president. Not gonna happen. He values typical life very little. 

Disagree completely. But this also isn't the place to discuss. This doesn't belong in the Shark Pool. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Ian Desmond opts out of his contract over COVID, and a whoooole lot of other stuff.

wondering how many pro athletes are going to reprioritize. 

This is a heck of a read. Woof. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCCp7aSptTr/?igshid=f81kedeq3y0q

 

[Deamon]

If I was Goodell. I would move all games to Sunday. With the exception of two. Two games played on Saturday. One at 5 pm est. the other at 8 pm est. then I would mandate after games two days rest. Then first day back checks for COVID. And prior to game time for Saturday all players get another COVID check. No fans in the stands. Players families and owners and employees are allowed in boxes. And the stand are filled with dummies like the Japanese are doing. And after game time all lockerooms are sanitized including the boxes. And allowed to pump in crowd noise at reasonable levels. Now this may seem ignorant. But this can protect against spread of disease and still keep football afloat. Thoughts?

I'd add that players should be tested before every practice too (as long as the NFL/Teams are paying for these tests).  It's a quick and easy test, why not over test anyone? 

Interesting take on eliminating TNF and MNF... not sure the league would lose this revenue.

I'd almost eliminate families in boxes too.  Unless you're testing all of them as they enter too.  Test everyone who steps foot in that stadium.  All older/immune compromised stadium staff, team staff, family, etc... absolutely banned from entering stadium.  Pay them to stay out if you have to, its a no brainer investment for the league.

I'm sure there will be crowd noise.  And you can be very creative with the sounds/volumes too based on what's happening every second on the field.  AFL does it now and you can't tell it's not a packed stadium unless you look.

 

[Blackbear]

I'd add that players should be tested before every practice too (as long as the NFL/Teams are paying for these tests).  It's a quick and easy test, why not over test anyone? 

Interesting take on eliminating TNF and MNF... not sure the league would lose this revenue.

I'd almost eliminate families in boxes too.  Unless you're testing all of them as they enter too.  Test everyone who steps foot in that stadium.  All older/immune compromised stadium staff, team staff, family, etc... absolutely banned from entering stadium.  Pay them to stay out if you have to, its a no brainer investment for the league.

I'm sure there will be crowd noise.  And you can be very creative with the sounds/volumes too based on what's happening every second on the field.  AFL does it now and you can't tell it's not a packed stadium unless you look.

Normally I don’t like you. But today I think you make sense.