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Me threeI am absolutely in for three rounds.
Me threeI am absolutely in for three rounds.
I'm the next drafter. I'm ready. I have my write up complete.I don't think there's any rush until the next drafter is around, which might be tomorrow.

The cheifs drafted Brandon Flowers and Brandon Carr last year as CBs, and both of them played well for rookies. I highly doubt the Cheifs spend an early pick on a corner considering there starting 2 CBs are sophomores.I think this is more then reasonable for all interested parties, provided Brady is on the way to being ready for preseason.As such I think a CB is a real consideration. Darius Butler perhaps. UConns team captain with solid speed.The Chiefs either take a QB in the first, try to get away with 2.03 for Cassel,
This sounds like a good plan. I have no doubt that I'm not taking the guy that AndyD would suggest for KC. I'm sort of expecting to hear some boos because some will call my pick a reach.I will be awake for at least another hour or two. I will check back before I crash to see where we're at.I say wait and let AD make the call, it is his draft. Enforcer if don't want to check in later, go ahead and post your pick. AD can pick around it or disallow it if he wants, but it saves you from having to check back.Unless your pick is my guy, then it's disallowed and you are booted!![]()
as am i.I'm in for 3 rounds
1.31 Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU
Sorry it took so long fellas. I dont know if I would have went with McCoy even if he was here. After passing up a bunch of solid RB prospects last year, it seems as if the coaching staff likes to sit on that position and snag a guy they like a few rounds later. But grabbing that speedy back is definitely a neccesity. I wanted to go corner, but I'm not too sold on DJ Moore or Alphonso Smith. Both seem a bit undersized. Rod Hood got toasted quite a few times, and while he is an adequate starting corner, I think the Cards do go after a young CB at some point in this draft that they will lineup to take Hood's spot in a year or 2. But I went with Jackson. Berry isn't getting any younger, Antonio Smith is going to want the big bucks. They have a few young guns playing some back-up roles, but I think adding Jackson here would be a great move.
Pick 35 (2.03) - Kansas City - Paul Kruger, DE - UtahHe's a player that I'm just learning more about, but the more I learn the more I like. He's a bit older after going on a mission for two years, but he appears to really be growing into a pass rusher mold.Between Curry and Kruger, it's a great start to rebuilding the defense. The only concern I have here is accuracy as I'm unsure if Pioli wants to do a 4-3 or 3-4.I also considered a WR.
Going the WR route with this pick, i would have expected the Seahawks to take Nicks. Nicks style is very similar to that of Crabtree, and Crabtree's talent level when compared to Nicks is perceived to be a lot higher than it really it is. I also think Nicks is the more ideal guy for a WCO. Having said that, i still think Britt is going to be a good WR. I can't remember a time when the Seahawks had a big receiver who they could just throw the ball up and have the WR come down with it. Hasselbeck was pretty successful at throwing a fade route to Hackett back when he was on the team, and Britt is 2 inches taller. I like the pick, but think Nicks would have been a slightly better one.Seattle is expected by most to be selecting WR Michael Crabtree in the first round at 1.04. I tried my best to give a detailed argument as to why I think its not the right move for this team, and also why I think Crabtree isn't worthy of a top four pick in the draft.
So....
With the fourth pick in the second round (2.04), Seattle selects WR Kenny Britt, Rutgers.
Positives: Britt is an early entry monster at 6'4" and plays physically. He punishes DBs with his size and strength. However, what I like best about Britt is the thing that makes him similar to Crabtree. He's got wonderful hands, always catching the ball away from his body. He rarely suffers a drop. If you watch this clip from YouTube you'll see him making several receptions and taking big hits, often bouncing off and keeping his feet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgDknAYE_Vo
He can make a reception in traffic with guys hanging off him. I've read in more than one place that he excels at jump balls in the red zone, but I have to admit that I haven't seen footage of it yet. Britt should step into the SE position nicely in the WCO.
Negatives: Straight line speed. He's not a deep burner and won't being beating safeties over the top. If he posts a big time at the combine his stock will soar. Effort and desire are in question. Britt is just a kid. He won't be 21 yet when the draft rolls around.
Final comment: Too early to be taking Britt? Perhaps, but I had two players targeted here (other was Moore), and I don't think Britt will be around at the start of the third round so I'm forced to take him here. Trading down would be optimal, but we don't have that option given the format. I understand that most rankings have Britt being taken late second or even early third, but that's someone else's rankings. I feel the potential that Britt has flashed makes him worth the risk and I won't be surprised if years from now we look back and realize Britt was the real deal (otherwise I wouldn't make the pick). D Williams from Penn State? Nicks from UNC? Pass. Britt is my guy.
Another thought... I've been doing a lot of research on players for this mock. I amazed that several different rankings have such divergent comments on the same player. I saw comments suggesting Britt had great hands, and than he had horribly inconsistent hands. Ugh. I can't stress enough that people need to find video to watch and decide for themselves when evaluating players. Don't settle for reading some guys write up on JoeShmoe.com.
My bad. Fixed. Browns got skipped. Hopefully they weren't thinking WR.You know... you didnt put in the changes to teams with equal records right?Not a big deal, but I think I posted the order on page 1 for the second round.
No we're good.....just got in to work...give me 10 minutes and I'll post up my pickMy bad. Fixed. Browns got skipped. Hopefully they weren't thinking WR.You know... you didnt put in the changes to teams with equal records right?Not a big deal, but I think I posted the order on page 1 for the second round.

Terrible pick. Huge reach! The guys is a bum!I mean... I have DJ Moore with a solid first round grade and was really hoping he would fall two more picks. He was easily the best player left on my board and there's no way he'd have gotten past pick #39.This was a very tough pick for me. I see 4 guys who I really like here. Shonn Greene is extremely tempting. Lewis is not going to play forever and I think they are pretty similar backs. Greene could be groomed to be his replacement in the next two seasons. Fila Moala @ 6-4 303 and Michael Johnson @ 6-7 258 were also considerations here. I would love to add some beef and attitude to the line to help Shaun Rogers out. As mentioned in my previous pick, our pass rush is just God awful and we can use all the help we can get. I also seriously considered Sean Smith. At 6-3 210 he is big and just fast enough. He played CB and Safety at Utah and is a very versatile player. Holly is coming off a season ending injury and is a UFA. Sean Jones is also a UFA. With that said, I cannot pass up the best player on my board. At 2.05 the Cleveland Browns select :DJ Moore, CB- VanderbiltTo me a good pass rush can be accomplished in a couple ways. Getting pressure on the QB with your front 7 and having corners that can cover. Further review has really made me go sour on Mcdonald. He tends to run with the play instead of attacking it. Selecting Moore to go with Orakpo should help out in both areas. Enjoy![]()
thanks. Most mocks I've seen have him going anywhere from 20-26. I don't see how I could have passed on him.Terrible pick. Huge reach! The guys is a bum!I mean... I have DJ Moore with a solid first round grade and was really hoping he would fall two more picks. He was easily the best player left on my board and there's no way he'd have gotten past pick #39.This was a very tough pick for me. I see 4 guys who I really like here. Shonn Greene is extremely tempting. Lewis is not going to play forever and I think they are pretty similar backs. Greene could be groomed to be his replacement in the next two seasons. Fila Moala @ 6-4 303 and Michael Johnson @ 6-7 258 were also considerations here. I would love to add some beef and attitude to the line to help Shaun Rogers out. As mentioned in my previous pick, our pass rush is just God awful and we can use all the help we can get. I also seriously considered Sean Smith. At 6-3 210 he is big and just fast enough. He played CB and Safety at Utah and is a very versatile player. Holly is coming off a season ending injury and is a UFA. Sean Jones is also a UFA. With that said, I cannot pass up the best player on my board. At 2.05 the Cleveland Browns select :DJ Moore, CB- VanderbiltTo me a good pass rush can be accomplished in a couple ways. Getting pressure on the QB with your front 7 and having corners that can cover. Further review has really made me go sour on Mcdonald. He tends to run with the play instead of attacking it. Selecting Moore to go with Orakpo should help out in both areas. Enjoy![]()
This is a great, solid pick and definitely fills a need. I must admit, there is a small part of me that was hoping to see some flash here, something different than the norm. It is possible to get a solid C in the 3rd round, and I think I could make a strong case for someone else here in the 2nd. I know, I know, we desperately need to fix the OL, but ST has always been something we lacked and needs to be addressed at some point.2.06 - Cincinnati Bengals - Max Unger, C - Oregon
Ghiaciuc is small and overall... just not good. In a division that's full of huge nose tackles, that's not qualities you want your center to have. Unger played his first two seasons at LT and the last two at C. All-PAC every year. He can't play LT at the pro level but he could play the other 4 spots, and the Bengals like versatile lineman. 6-5 300lbs with the frame to add weight. Good news for Palmer and whoever they line up at RB.
Same, excellent pick for our purposes but I don't think he'll slip out of the 1st.Terrible pick. Huge reach! The guys is a bum!I mean... I have DJ Moore with a solid first round grade and was really hoping he would fall two more picks. He was easily the best player left on my board and there's no way he'd have gotten past pick #39.This was a very tough pick for me. I see 4 guys who I really like here. Shonn Greene is extremely tempting. Lewis is not going to play forever and I think they are pretty similar backs. Greene could be groomed to be his replacement in the next two seasons. Fila Moala @ 6-4 303 and Michael Johnson @ 6-7 258 were also considerations here. I would love to add some beef and attitude to the line to help Shaun Rogers out. As mentioned in my previous pick, our pass rush is just God awful and we can use all the help we can get. I also seriously considered Sean Smith. At 6-3 210 he is big and just fast enough. He played CB and Safety at Utah and is a very versatile player. Holly is coming off a season ending injury and is a UFA. Sean Jones is also a UFA. With that said, I cannot pass up the best player on my board. At 2.05 the Cleveland Browns select :DJ Moore, CB- VanderbiltTo me a good pass rush can be accomplished in a couple ways. Getting pressure on the QB with your front 7 and having corners that can cover. Further review has really made me go sour on Mcdonald. He tends to run with the play instead of attacking it. Selecting Moore to go with Orakpo should help out in both areas. Enjoy![]()
Neither do I. But for the sake of the mock I had to grab him. FWIW, my second choice would have been Shonn Greene and Sean Smith in that order.Same, excellent pick for our purposes but I don't think he'll slip out of the 1st.Terrible pick. Huge reach! The guys is a bum!I mean... I have DJ Moore with a solid first round grade and was really hoping he would fall two more picks. He was easily the best player left on my board and there's no way he'd have gotten past pick #39.This was a very tough pick for me. I see 4 guys who I really like here. Shonn Greene is extremely tempting. Lewis is not going to play forever and I think they are pretty similar backs. Greene could be groomed to be his replacement in the next two seasons. Fila Moala @ 6-4 303 and Michael Johnson @ 6-7 258 were also considerations here. I would love to add some beef and attitude to the line to help Shaun Rogers out. As mentioned in my previous pick, our pass rush is just God awful and we can use all the help we can get. I also seriously considered Sean Smith. At 6-3 210 he is big and just fast enough. He played CB and Safety at Utah and is a very versatile player. Holly is coming off a season ending injury and is a UFA. Sean Jones is also a UFA. With that said, I cannot pass up the best player on my board. At 2.05 the Cleveland Browns select :DJ Moore, CB- VanderbiltTo me a good pass rush can be accomplished in a couple ways. Getting pressure on the QB with your front 7 and having corners that can cover. Further review has really made me go sour on Mcdonald. He tends to run with the play instead of attacking it. Selecting Moore to go with Orakpo should help out in both areas. Enjoy![]()
Good point. Maybe after the draft would have been a better time to discuss. My appologies.Can you guys keep the information to a minimum in your picks please? Let's try not to educate others on unpicked players. TIA
I don't know. Isn't that the whole reason for doing this thread? To discuss views on prospects so we can all learn a little more about the players, team needs and draft philosophies. It's not like you can "win" the mock draft by getting players fall to you because no one said anything. I much prefer someone making a pick and explaining the process that went into the selection and why they passed on other guys. Keeping the information to a minimum seems completely counter to the reason for doing the thread in the first place.Can you guys keep the informationto a minimum in your picks please? Let's try not to educate others on unpicked players. TIA
I agree.I like to hear informed opinions of team needs and players.I don't know. Isn't that the whole reason for doing this thread? To discuss views on prospects so we can all learn a little more about the players, team needs and draft philosophies. It's not like you can "win" the mock draft by getting players fall to you because no one said anything. I much prefer someone making a pick and explaining the process that went into the selection and why they passed on other guys. Keeping the information to a minimum seems completely counter to the reason for doing the thread in the first place.Can you guys keep the informationto a minimum in your picks please? Let's try not to educate others on unpicked players. TIA
I'm quite sure Andy would be 100% behind Wadsworth on this. The whole point of this mock is to educate everyone. Keep up the discussion. Increase it, if possible.I don't know. Isn't that the whole reason for doing this thread? To discuss views on prospects so we can all learn a little more about the players, team needs and draft philosophies. It's not like you can "win" the mock draft by getting players fall to you because no one said anything. I much prefer someone making a pick and explaining the process that went into the selection and why they passed on other guys. Keeping the information to a minimum seems completely counter to the reason for doing the thread in the first place.Can you guys keep the informationto a minimum in your picks please? Let's try not to educate others on unpicked players. TIA
I understand, but I assume you also understand why I mention it. You hate to reward someone for not doing their own research on the team they're picking for or the players being picked. It isn't a fantasy league draft but we're all competitive so you hate to see someone snatch up your guy right before you because of a scouting report he got in an earlier post. I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin.I agree.I like to hear informed opinions of team needs and players.I don't know. Isn't that the whole reason for doing this thread? To discuss views on prospects so we can all learn a little more about the players, team needs and draft philosophies. It's not like you can "win" the mock draft by getting players fall to you because no one said anything. I much prefer someone making a pick and explaining the process that went into the selection and why they passed on other guys. Keeping the information to a minimum seems completely counter to the reason for doing the thread in the first place.Can you guys keep the informationto a minimum in your picks please? Let's try not to educate others on unpicked players. TIA
This isn't a fantasy league draft.
But couldn't the education be delivered on the player being picked and not the ones that are yet to be picked?I'm quite sure Andy would be 100% behind Wadsworth on this. The whole point of this mock is to educate everyone. Keep up the discussion. Increase it, if possible.I don't know. Isn't that the whole reason for doing this thread? To discuss views on prospects so we can all learn a little more about the players, team needs and draft philosophies. It's not like you can "win" the mock draft by getting players fall to you because no one said anything. I much prefer someone making a pick and explaining the process that went into the selection and why they passed on other guys. Keeping the information to a minimum seems completely counter to the reason for doing the thread in the first place.Can you guys keep the informationto a minimum in your picks please? Let's try not to educate others on unpicked players. TIA
I feel what you are saying and I am hyper-competitive, I just don't really see this as a competition.I understand, but I assume you also understand why I mention it. You hate to reward someone for not doing their own research on the team they're picking for or the players being picked. It isn't a fantasy league draft but we're all competitive so you hate to see someone snatch up your guy right before you because of a scouting report he got in an earlier post. I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin.I agree.I like to hear informed opinions of team needs and players.I don't know. Isn't that the whole reason for doing this thread? To discuss views on prospects so we can all learn a little more about the players, team needs and draft philosophies. It's not like you can "win" the mock draft by getting players fall to you because no one said anything. I much prefer someone making a pick and explaining the process that went into the selection and why they passed on other guys. Keeping the information to a minimum seems completely counter to the reason for doing the thread in the first place.Can you guys keep the informationto a minimum in your picks please? Let's try not to educate others on unpicked players. TIA
This isn't a fantasy league draft.
think u might be doing this for the wrong reasons if this is what you're worried about.I understand, but I assume you also understand why I mention it. You hate to reward someone for not doing their own research on the team they're picking for or the players being picked. It isn't a fantasy league draft but we're all competitive so you hate to see someone snatch up your guy right before you because of a scouting report he got in an earlier post. I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin.I agree.I like to hear informed opinions of team needs and players.I don't know. Isn't that the whole reason for doing this thread? To discuss views on prospects so we can all learn a little more about the players, team needs and draft philosophies. It's not like you can "win" the mock draft by getting players fall to you because no one said anything. I much prefer someone making a pick and explaining the process that went into the selection and why they passed on other guys. Keeping the information to a minimum seems completely counter to the reason for doing the thread in the first place.Can you guys keep the informationto a minimum in your picks please? Let's try not to educate others on unpicked players. TIA
This isn't a fantasy league draft.
Maybe more of problem if this were a 7 round mock, but most of the people on the board and especially those participating in a February pre-combine mock draft are enough of draft geeks where they know the top 75-100 players almost without looking. Think you not giving enough credit to the posters here.I understand, but I assume you also understand why I mention it. You hate to reward someone for not doing their own research on the team they're picking for or the players being picked. It isn't a fantasy league draft but we're all competitive so you hate to see someone snatch up your guy right before you because of a scouting report he got in an earlier post. I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin.I agree.I like to hear informed opinions of team needs and players.I don't know. Isn't that the whole reason for doing this thread? To discuss views on prospects so we can all learn a little more about the players, team needs and draft philosophies. It's not like you can "win" the mock draft by getting players fall to you because no one said anything. I much prefer someone making a pick and explaining the process that went into the selection and why they passed on other guys. Keeping the information to a minimum seems completely counter to the reason for doing the thread in the first place.Can you guys keep the informationto a minimum in your picks please? Let's try not to educate others on unpicked players. TIA
This isn't a fantasy league draft.
I'm all for talking about the players and their strengths, the teams and their needs.......I don't think what I mentioned turns me into some kind of crochety old man or anything. I'm in this thing to pretend GM for Pats, and attempt to get the best picks possible for my team. I requested a minimum of information, maybe a "relative" minimum would have been more appropriate. If not, I'm not going to bethink u might be doing this for the wrong reasons if this is what you're worried about.I understand, but I assume you also understand why I mention it. You hate to reward someone for not doing their own research on the team they're picking for or the players being picked. It isn't a fantasy league draft but we're all competitive so you hate to see someone snatch up your guy right before you because of a scouting report he got in an earlier post. I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin.I agree.I like to hear informed opinions of team needs and players.I don't know. Isn't that the whole reason for doing this thread? To discuss views on prospects so we can all learn a little more about the players, team needs and draft philosophies. It's not like you can "win" the mock draft by getting players fall to you because no one said anything. I much prefer someone making a pick and explaining the process that went into the selection and why they passed on other guys. Keeping the information to a minimum seems completely counter to the reason for doing the thread in the first place.Can you guys keep the informationto a minimum in your picks please? Let's try not to educate others on unpicked players. TIA
This isn't a fantasy league draft.
or anything. Carry on.I'm Bill Belichick damnit. I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to WIN!
2.06 - Cincinnati Bengals - Max Unger, C - Oregon
Ghiaciuc is small and overall... just not good. In a division that's full of huge nose tackles, that's not qualities you want your center to have. Unger played his first two seasons at LT and the last two at C. All-PAC every year. He can't play LT at the pro level but he could play the other 4 spots, and the Bengals like versatile lineman. 6-5 300lbs with the frame to add weight. Good news for Palmer and whoever they line up at RB.
Where do I start the letter-writing drive to get Kirby installed as new Bengals GM?
All of the NFL teams are going to be more informed than we are. So if we are going for realistic, the more info spit out the better. Great guys dropping would ruin it.I understand, but I assume you also understand why I mention it. You hate to reward someone for not doing their own research on the team they're picking for or the players being picked. It isn't a fantasy league draft but we're all competitive so you hate to see someone snatch up your guy right before you because of a scouting report he got in an earlier post. I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin.I agree.I like to hear informed opinions of team needs and players.I don't know. Isn't that the whole reason for doing this thread? To discuss views on prospects so we can all learn a little more about the players, team needs and draft philosophies. It's not like you can "win" the mock draft by getting players fall to you because no one said anything. I much prefer someone making a pick and explaining the process that went into the selection and why they passed on other guys. Keeping the information to a minimum seems completely counter to the reason for doing the thread in the first place.Can you guys keep the informationto a minimum in your picks please? Let's try not to educate others on unpicked players. TIA
This isn't a fantasy league draft.
I'm sorry, did you say something? I must have zoned out while I was staring at your avatarAll of the NFL teams are going to be more informed than we are. So if we are going for realistic, the more info spit out the better. Great guys dropping would ruin it.I understand, but I assume you also understand why I mention it. You hate to reward someone for not doing their own research on the team they're picking for or the players being picked. It isn't a fantasy league draft but we're all competitive so you hate to see someone snatch up your guy right before you because of a scouting report he got in an earlier post. I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin.I agree.I like to hear informed opinions of team needs and players.I don't know. Isn't that the whole reason for doing this thread? To discuss views on prospects so we can all learn a little more about the players, team needs and draft philosophies. It's not like you can "win" the mock draft by getting players fall to you because no one said anything. I much prefer someone making a pick and explaining the process that went into the selection and why they passed on other guys. Keeping the information to a minimum seems completely counter to the reason for doing the thread in the first place.Can you guys keep the informationto a minimum in your picks please :X ? Let's try not to educate others on unpicked players. TIA
This isn't a fantasy league draft.
Who is that again?Agreed, Matt Millen isn't around anymore so no need to be stingy with the info (unless of course Matt is one of the guys picking in this mock draft...)-QGAll of the NFL teams are going to be more informed than we are. So if we are going for realistic, the more info spit out the better. Great guys dropping would ruin it.I understand, but I assume you also understand why I mention it. You hate to reward someone for not doing their own research on the team they're picking for or the players being picked. It isn't a fantasy league draft but we're all competitive so you hate to see someone snatch up your guy right before you because of a scouting report he got in an earlier post. I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin.I agree.I like to hear informed opinions of team needs and players.I don't know. Isn't that the whole reason for doing this thread? To discuss views on prospects so we can all learn a little more about the players, team needs and draft philosophies. It's not like you can "win" the mock draft by getting players fall to you because no one said anything. I much prefer someone making a pick and explaining the process that went into the selection and why they passed on other guys. Keeping the information to a minimum seems completely counter to the reason for doing the thread in the first place.Can you guys keep the informationto a minimum in your picks please? Let's try not to educate others on unpicked players. TIA
This isn't a fantasy league draft.
All of the NFL teams are going to be more informed than we are. So if we are going for realistic, the more info spit out the better. Great guys dropping would ruin it.I understand, but I assume you also understand why I mention it. You hate to reward someone for not doing their own research on the team they're picking for or the players being picked. It isn't a fantasy league draft but we're all competitive so you hate to see someone snatch up your guy right before you because of a scouting report he got in an earlier post. I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin.I agree.I like to hear informed opinions of team needs and players.I don't know. Isn't that the whole reason for doing this thread? To discuss views on prospects so we can all learn a little more about the players, team needs and draft philosophies. It's not like you can "win" the mock draft by getting players fall to you because no one said anything. I much prefer someone making a pick and explaining the process that went into the selection and why they passed on other guys. Keeping the information to a minimum seems completely counter to the reason for doing the thread in the first place.Can you guys keep the informationto a minimum in your picks please? Let's try not to educate others on unpicked players. TIA
This isn't a fantasy league draft.

The important parts of Adriana Lima.I'm sorry, did you say something? I must have zoned out while I was staring at your avatarAll of the NFL teams are going to be more informed than we are. So if we are going for realistic, the more info spit out the better. Great guys dropping would ruin it.I understand, but I assume you also understand why I mention it. You hate to reward someone for not doing their own research on the team they're picking for or the players being picked. It isn't a fantasy league draft but we're all competitive so you hate to see someone snatch up your guy right before you because of a scouting report he got in an earlier post. I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin.I agree.I like to hear informed opinions of team needs and players.I don't know. Isn't that the whole reason for doing this thread? To discuss views on prospects so we can all learn a little more about the players, team needs and draft philosophies. It's not like you can "win" the mock draft by getting players fall to you because no one said anything. I much prefer someone making a pick and explaining the process that went into the selection and why they passed on other guys. Keeping the information to a minimum seems completely counter to the reason for doing the thread in the first place.Can you guys keep the informationto a minimum in your picks please? Let's try not to educate others on unpicked players. TIA
This isn't a fantasy league draft.Who is that again?