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Shark Pool Mock Draft - V1.0. (2 Viewers)

TAMPA BAY SELECTS - JOSH FREEMAN , QB KANSAS STATE

Almost a no-brainer pick here but I really like a DT still on the board but...

Most Buc fan mocks had this guy penciled in with the #19 pick.... they are estatic to see him availible with their second pick.

He could easily turn into the best QB in the Draft... has a lot of natural talent.

 
I thought Raji was a penetrating DT, not a hole plugger. How many penetrating NT's are there in 3-4 defenses around the league? That position is usually used to tie up blockers.
I'm pretty sure the good ones take up blockers and penetrate as well. Vince Wilfork is a good example.
Depends completely on the scheme. The player has to be able to do what is asked of him.Shaun Rodgers is a great example. He's an excellent player whose strengths don't match well with the scheme the team wanted him to play. He can penetrate and cause havoc in the backfield, but he won't consistently take on the double team, gets out of position and allows his LB's to be erased. He is as much a liability as he is a positive. 28th in yards allowed rushing. 25th in yards per attempt. I don't see Raji being consistently able to stack two interior lineman. As mentioned he was beaten one on one consistently at the Senior Bowl. Much more of a 3 technique than a 0 technique. Far more Okoye than Hampton IMO.
 
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I thought Raji was a penetrating DT, not a hole plugger. How many penetrating NT's are there in 3-4 defenses around the league? That position is usually used to tie up blockers.
I'm pretty sure the good ones take up blockers and penetrate as well. Vince Wilfork is a good example.
Depends completely on the scheme. The player has to be able to do what is asked of him.Shaun Rodgers is a great example. He's an excellent player whose strengths don't match well with the scheme the team wanted him to play. He can penetrate and cause havoc in the backfield, but he won't consistently take on the double team, gets out of position and allows his LB's to be erased. He is as much a liability as he is a positive. 28th in yards allowed rushing. 25th in yards per attempt. I don't see Raji being consistently able to stack two interior lineman. As mentioned he was beaten one on one consistently at the Senior Bowl. Much more of a 3 technique than a 0 technique. Far more Okoye than Hampton IMO.
Agreed. That is why I don't get everyone penciling him in as a NT.
 
I don't think anyone took Dallas since they didn't have a first round pick... any Cowboy homer want to step up?

 
I thought Raji was a penetrating DT, not a hole plugger. How many penetrating NT's are there in 3-4 defenses around the league? That position is usually used to tie up blockers.
I'm pretty sure the good ones take up blockers and penetrate as well. Vince Wilfork is a good example.
Depends completely on the scheme. The player has to be able to do what is asked of him.Shaun Rodgers is a great example. He's an excellent player whose strengths don't match well with the scheme the team wanted him to play. He can penetrate and cause havoc in the backfield, but he won't consistently take on the double team, gets out of position and allows his LB's to be erased. He is as much a liability as he is a positive. 28th in yards allowed rushing. 25th in yards per attempt. I don't see Raji being consistently able to stack two interior lineman. As mentioned he was beaten one on one consistently at the Senior Bowl. Much more of a 3 technique than a 0 technique. Far more Okoye than Hampton IMO.
Agreed. That is why I don't get everyone penciling him in as a NT.
I personally think P.Jerry & S.Marks are as good as Raji or better, and think that he & Brace made a great duo but are not elite, stand-alone type talents. E.Wood, M.Unger & A.Mack stoned Raji all day long in the Senior Bowl. I don't see any of these top DTs as standout 3-4 NTs, but would prolly put Jerry #1 of my top DTs if I HAD to have a 3-4 guy. Marks may be the best penetrator & I'd call him as good as S.Ellis was last year. All of my top 3 are potential stud 3 techniques. Two-gap DTs are in short supply for this draft (and most).
 
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I was hoping Beatty would be there for the Vikings.

Glad Tampa took Freeman as I would have felt compelled to take him too, but I'm not anywhere near sold on him.

 
Buddy Ball 2K3 said:
Deranged Hermit said:
The Chicago Bears take: William Beatty OT UCON

The need for O-line is pretty glaring, the whole line is getting old. Hopefully last year's debacle of a first round pick and Beatty will provide the bookends to protect our 1st round pick of this year.
Ughhh. Great pick. This is a guy that I think will creep into the early 2nd or late first. Great value and someone I was targeting for the birds.
I agree, and I think he may be on the Cardinals short list at pick 31. I have to think that they will go defense in the first, but if not, Beatty could be the guy. Great value in the middle of the 2nd IMO.
 
I'll give Dallas a shot if there isn't another candidate. Here's my prequel:

The Cowboys are on the clock and have needs at picking up a possession WR to play opposite of Roy (WR) in the future, an OL prospect to groom for depth if not to challenge Flozell, and possibly a young QB although I would prefer they bring in a more proven QB2.

On defense, they need a pure 3-4 NT if they lose Canty and move Ratliff to DE otherwise a DE. They need a true MLB starter. They need DB help whether they cut Roy (SF) and/or convert Henry at FS. They probably need a safety over a CB.

With this many potential needs, it will come down to PBA and how they project tiers for their many remaining picks. That said, with as many as 3 open starting positions on defense, it would take a strong value for them to take an offensive need with this pick.

 
I'll give Dallas a shot if there isn't another candidate. Here's my prequel:The Cowboys are on the clock and have needs at picking up a possession WR to play opposite of Roy (WR) in the future, an OL prospect to groom for depth if not to challenge Flozell, and possibly a young QB although I would prefer they bring in a more proven QB2.On defense, they need a pure 3-4 NT if they lose Canty and move Ratliff to DE otherwise a DE. They need a true MLB starter. They need DB help whether they cut Roy (SF) and/or convert Henry at FS. They probably need a safety over a CB.With this many potential needs, it will come down to PBA and how they project tiers for their many remaining picks. That said, with as many as 3 open starting positions on defense, it would take a strong value for them to take an offensive need with this pick.
I say go for it... Buddyball is here for the next pick too... we can get thru the Jets now if you pick.
 
The Texans select Shone Greene RB Iowa

Antoher draft pick that did not fall that great in terms of real need for the Texans. They need a compliment to Steve Slaton, but this is an earlier pick than ideal, however Greene is the best talent on the board IMO. I think he can be one cut runner as he has displayed good vision and of course has the power Slaton does not. also, if Slaton is hurt, he should be able to carry the load. Other options here would be to go safety as a need pick, but i don't think the 2nd round type in this draft are significantly better than the 3rd, 4th rounders. Also, recent rumors are that the Texans like Dominque Barber a ton at SS, so in thier mind the need might not be as great as we think, although a center field type would give them something they have not had in their relative short history. Just not a have to have player here.
I am high on Rashad Johnson here. Think he will be a good safety at this level. Kind of BPA meets extreme need IMO.
the overall weakness of the safety class.
I think the top 4-5 (or so safeties) are an excellent group. Besdies there not being a top 15 pick as there is in some years, but as far as second rounders/tiers go they have emmense potential. One of the better classes. But I do believe Rashad is on the outside of that group. Which actually says alot about the safety strength to me.
While Houston needs another RB to go with Slaton, I think this pick will be another defensive player. Some good quality RB's in the 3rd and Houston doesn't need a fulltime guy. I would have gone with Sen' Derrick Marks DT. Travis Johnson was drafted as a 3-4 NT by the prior regime and hasn't adapted well to switching to a 4-3. Okoye still has loads of potential but has yet to fufill it, he was actually splitting time (partially due to injury) this past year. You could futher solidify the line with Marks and help with depth as Houston really likes to constantly rotate out their dline during games to keep them fresh. It also doesn't help that Jeff Zgonina is our best DT backup and is 38 years old. We did take Okam last year, but he's more of a flier and a space eater anyway.I think Corner is a strong possibility here as well. Even if Robinson is retained, the GM has stated they need another corner. While Reeves has been better than fans give him credit for, trotting Bennett or Faggins out in nickel and dime situations to cover the other #1 or #2 WR is often scary. (Robinson usually plays the nickel role when in that package which puts our 3rd string guy spread out wide.) It was a lot of fun to see Faggins get blown by completely against Calvin Johnson last year for a 96 yard TD. I used to defend him, but he just looks lost out there sometimes.

 
Injuries played a bigger part in the lost season than some think. Pat Watkins and Roy Williams were supposed to be the starting safeties and now both return. I am also intending to slide Henry over to FS. Either way, the team needs to bring in another DB, either as a CB starter opposite Newman or as depth at S if they keep Henry at CB and retain Roy or else a starting SS if they don't. Jenkins and Scandrick make solid CB depth. A 2nd year leap from Jenkins would be nice but not expected.

Can you really move Ratliff after making the Pro Bowl from DT to DE? Meanwhile, I don't see a good value at NT here although a big tier remains while Dallas has multiple round picks coming up starting in Round 3+ and NT is a position that doesn't always need to be drafted high.

The DE and MLB positions at this tier have been picked over as well so I'll look to free agency and later round selections to shore up free agent departures.

I see one more impact WR available but he's possibly not the best fit opposite Roy (WR) after TO departs. The team is also still high on Miles Austin and Crayton makes a solid reserve.

I see 2 strong targets at OT, one at C, and one at OG. I almost pulled the trigger on another OL figuring Holland/Kosier battle it out for OG and the other is the super-sub along with this rookie OL.

I'd like to see maybe a Round 6 flier on Graham Harrell now that the temptation of Freeman is gone but now isn't the time to go QB.

With the 51st pick of the 2009 NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys select:

*** Darius Butler CB 5'11 185 Uconn ***

An excellent cover corner with big play ability. He has the ability to eventually replace Newman as their shutdown corner.

For now, we'll settle for the starting CB2 role that allows Henry to move to FS as mentioned above. With Roy, Watkins, Henry, and Davis I think the team has bought itself another season at safety although a later round pickup wouldn't hurt.

Jenkins and Scandrick round out the now a young and talented reserve CB corps. With these two, Henry in a spit role, and Butler, the team's DB depth is where it should have been had PacMan worked out and injuries not ruined the safety depth.

The team still needs a MLB, and either a DT or DE if not both for depth. Some exciting options remain however Butler stands out above them and is the last of the tier.

If this was the real draft I'd be looking to move up to snag one of the remaining OL's I am in love with but just couldn't pull the trigger on over such a glaring need and obvious fit and the chance to draft a difference maker at a need position.

 
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Absolutely love how this draft has gone for the Birds.

With the #52 Pick of Round 2 the Philadelphia Eagles Select: Jared Cook, TE South Carolina

The Eagles have had a need for a TE for the past 5 years. The LJ Smith experiment was a major disappointment when you consider they could have drafted Jason Witten instead. The Eagles have the top Jr. TE in country fall right into their lap. Had Cook stayed in school he was projected as mid 1st round pick. At 6'5" 240 lbs, Cook gives the Birds the Red Zone target they so desperately need. Cook also posses fantastic speed to go along with his size and his Coach Steve Spurrier has compared him to Calvin Johnson. Can't go wrong with having a baby Megatron on your squad.

 
With the 53rd pick

The NYJ Select Donald Brown, RB UConn

Many doubt Brown's ability to translate into success at the NFL level, but there are also some pundits that think he should be a first rounder. Many detractors point to the level of competition he faced in college. Still, he led the nation in rushing and was named Big East Offensive Player of the Year with three 200+yard games.

New HC Ryan has made it clear that the Jets will operate a very run oriented offense. The Jets were fortunate in that both Thomas Jones and Leon Washington avoided the injury bug in 2008, something that is not likely to happen again in 2009, especially if the workload each recieves increases. The third RB on the roster last year, Chatman went down early and landed on IR.

What the Jets need is another all purpose back like Jones who may not be overly fast, perhaps isn't a great power runner inside the tackles, or a great reciever, but he does all of those things well enough to be successful in this offense. That sounds a lot like Brown to me. 4.5ish speed, may run a 4.4 to 4.45 in a combine/pro day evaluation, and at 5'10" and 210 pounds has the ability to emerge from a pile, the speed to take advantage of that, has some abilty to run between the tackles and with one of the best staright arm moves I've ever seen combined with at least some wiggle is just what the Jets are looking for.

He has demonstrated his durabilty with over 300 carries in his senior year and has leadership qualities. Brown comes with no character worries. When his parents asked what he wanted for Christmas he said nothing. Instead he wanted to "adopt a family". His first goal after he signs with a team is to open a soup kitchen. He is also a local kid, having played his HS ball in NJ and college ball in Connecticut.

 
With the 53rd pick

The NYJ Select Donald Brown, RB UConn

Many doubt Brown's ability to translate into success at the NFL level, but there are also some pundits that think he should be a first rounder. Many detractors point to the level of competition he faced in college. Still, he led the nation in rushing and was named Big East Offensive Player of the Year with three 200+yard games.

New HC Ryan has made it clear that the Jets will operate a very run oriented offense. The Jets were fortunate in that both Thomas Jones and Leon Washington avoided the injury bug in 2008, something that is not likely to happen again in 2009, especially if the workload each recieves increases. The third RB on the roster last year, Chatman went down early and landed on IR.

What the Jets need is another all purpose back like Jones who may not be overly fast, perhaps isn't a great power runner inside the tackles, or a great reciever, but he does all of those things well enough to be successful in this offense. That sounds a lot like Brown to me. 4.5ish speed, may run a 4.4 to 4.45 in a combine/pro day evaluation, and at 5'10" and 210 pounds has the ability to emerge from a pile, the speed to take advantage of that, has some abilty to run between the tackles and with one of the best staright arm moves I've ever seen combined with at least some wiggle is just what the Jets are looking for.

He has demonstrated his durabilty with over 300 carries in his senior year and has leadership qualities. Brown comes with no character worries. When his parents asked what he wanted for Christmas he said nothing. Instead he wanted to "adopt a family". His first goal after he signs with a team is to open a soup kitchen. He is also a local kid, having played his HS ball in NJ and college ball in Connecticut.

By the time the draft rolls around Donald Brown could be as high as RB2 in my rankings. He's currently RB4 but the more I see of him the more I see potential to move up. Great value at pick #53 to be sure.
 
bcr8, McCoy seems more like Leon Washington to me, as opposed to a Thomas Jones type, so I didn't think he was a good fit. Brown looks like he could be a workhorse.

Wadsworth, I agree.... I don't expect Brown to be there this late in the draft. If he has a good combine, he could jump into the first round.

If the real draft went like this for the Jets, I'd be very happy.

 
Sorry guys. I've been at the vet all day with my pooch. Go ahead and take any future Dallas picks from me as I have my hands full. Sorry about the missed pick. Carry on.

 
Sorry guys. I've been at the vet all day with my pooch. Go ahead and take any future Dallas picks from me as I have my hands full. Sorry about the missed pick. Carry on.
Sorry man. If you are around and I'm not feel free to do round 3 if we go that far. Feel free to PM me your suggestions too. What do you think of my choice?
 
53. Vikings - Sen'Derrick Marks, DT, Auburn.

I know we have the two best defensive tackles in the league arguably, but with Pat Williams at the end of his career, and with him getting injured, they need a good replacement. Plus, Marks could play either DT or DE and the side opposite Jared Allen needs some work. Kenechi Udeze's story is great, but who knows how he'll be able to perform? Plus, Ray Edwards is coming off a knee injury.

The offensive tackles (which I'd prefer to draft) aren't very good at this spot and there's obviously no QB worth taking. I considered taking a CB (Jairus Byrd?), but they're okay there for next season at least.

 
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53. Vikings - Sen'Derrick Marks, DT, Auburn.I know we have the two best defensive tackles in the league arguably, but with Pat Williams at the end of his career, and with him getting injured, they need a good replacement. Plus, Marks could play either DT or DE and the side opposite Jared Allen needs some work. Kenechi Udeze's story is great, but who knows how he'll be able to perform? Plus, Ray Edwards is coming off a knee injury.The offensive tackles (which I'd prefer to draft) aren't very good at this spot and there's obviously no QB worth taking. I considered taking a CB (Jairus Byrd?), but they're okay there for next season at least.
Plus he has a really cool name. At times, especially early in this past season, Marks looked as good as any DT in the draft. For some reason his play wasn't as sharp towards the end of the season. Could be an injury or loss of focus since Auburn disappointed after early excitement. But great value at this point of the draft.
 
With the 55th Selection in the NFL Draft, the Atlanta Falcons select; Rashad Johnson S; Alabama

This pick continues to fortify the Falcons defense. Last year, the Falcons started Erik Coleman & Lawyer Milloy at the S positions. Milloy's contract is up and while he played the SS position, if I'm the Falcons brass, I'm having last years 3rd round pick, Thomas DeCoud convert over to SS. Coming out of Cal, DeCoud was 6'1 205. With a year in an NFL strength & conditioning program, I think he'll be able to hold up in the box. He was more of a solid tackler than playmaker in college (only 1 INT) so this move would seem to make sense.

Coleman was a nice find for Atlanta last year and not all that expensive, but I question if he's the long term solution.

I'm a big fan of Johnson. He is a very complete safety prospect; great in coverage, very smart and instinctive, a good tackler and very physical. When a coach like Nick Saban says you're one of the smartest football players he's ever coached...I think you take notice of that and his last two seasons at Alabama were tremendous. He's a self made player with terrific football instincts and I think concerns about his size have been overblown. He showed up at the Senior Bowl at 5'11 195 and I think he can continue to put on a few pounds without losing speed. Much like the Patriots did with Brandon Merriweather, I can see Johnson learning the NFL in a redshirt manner with realistic designs at taking over the starting FS position in 2010. But he's versatile enough to potentially back up both S positions in the Falcons Cover 2.

At the end of the day though, Johnson's playmaking element is something the Falcons secondary needs and their depth at the S position is minimal.

 
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I don't know who has the Dolphins...? I don't think big_donkey ever showed and forget how that pick got made earlier.
Pretty sure Smackdown has the Phins now and I just messaged him.I'm going to stick around for a little while, but not too late tonight hoping to get in the Pat's pick. Otherwise I'll check in the morning. Would love to get it done tonight if possible.
 
53. Vikings - Sen'Derrick Marks, DT, Auburn.I know we have the two best defensive tackles in the league arguably, but with Pat Williams at the end of his career, and with him getting injured, they need a good replacement. Plus, Marks could play either DT or DE and the side opposite Jared Allen needs some work. Kenechi Udeze's story is great, but who knows how he'll be able to perform? Plus, Ray Edwards is coming off a knee injury.The offensive tackles (which I'd prefer to draft) aren't very good at this spot and there's obviously no QB worth taking. I considered taking a CB (Jairus Byrd?), but they're okay there for next season at least.
Nice pick. I thought about him but he's not really able to play NT and not sure he's a perfect fit for the Cowboys in a 3-4 at DE either so I went with the CB.
 
53. Vikings - Sen'Derrick Marks, DT, Auburn.I know we have the two best defensive tackles in the league arguably, but with Pat Williams at the end of his career, and with him getting injured, they need a good replacement. Plus, Marks could play either DT or DE and the side opposite Jared Allen needs some work. Kenechi Udeze's story is great, but who knows how he'll be able to perform? Plus, Ray Edwards is coming off a knee injury.The offensive tackles (which I'd prefer to draft) aren't very good at this spot and there's obviously no QB worth taking. I considered taking a CB (Jairus Byrd?), but they're okay there for next season at least.
Interesting pick. I don't know if Marks has the body type to take over for Pat, but more depth definitely wouldn't hurt. I think I would've gone with Jarius Byrd as he's played both safety and CB in college and looked pretty good doing both. With Gordon probably not being 100% come opening day I think the Vikings need a better nickel corner.
 
Sorry guys. I've been at the vet all day with my pooch. Go ahead and take any future Dallas picks from me as I have my hands full. Sorry about the missed pick. Carry on.
Sorry man. If you are around and I'm not feel free to do round 3 if we go that far. Feel free to PM me your suggestions too. What do you think of my choice?
Looks good. I don't think there are any slam dunks at this point.
 
With the 57th pick of the 2009 NFL Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select.....



Victor "Macho" Harris, CB, Virginia Tech

The Ravens need to address corner, and having Harris available near the end of Round 2 is perfect for them (and a reason for them to grab a WR at the tail end of Round 1).

As for Harris, Virginia Tech had a loaded defense in 2006 and 2007, but that did not stop him from becoming a starter at the corner position. As a junior Harris collected five interceptions and broke up 11 passes. For his efforts, he was named to the All-ACC first-team.

Harris' speed and athleticism can be used more than just at cornerback or wide receiver; the 6-0, 194 pound DB is also a solid return man. He is more known for his punt returning, but in 2007 he returned a kick-off 100 yards for a touchdown. Harris certainly has the athleticism to play corner in the NFL, but he is also tough and plays very physical. There are a few things in his mechanics that need a little help, but he will learn.

Harris ended up notching 46 tackles and six interceptions by the time the Hokies wrapped up the 2008 season. Since the opposition rarely tested Harris, those are pretty solid numbers.

That's the key with some of these guys - you don't know how good they are (like Brandon Flowers) because their conference already does and they don't throw at them. Harris is a shutdown corner and has to be addressed as such in the NFL. If he can translate these skills to the next level the Ravens will have another starting corner, which is exactly what they need.

 
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With the 57th pick of the 2009 NFL Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select.....



Victor "Macho" Harris, CB, Virginia Tech

The Ravens need to address corner, and having Harris available near the end of Round 2 is perfect for them (and a reason for them to grab a WR at the tail end of Round 1).

As for Harris, Virginia Tech had a loaded defense in 2006 and 2007, but that did not stop him from becoming a starter at the corner position. As a junior Harris collected five interceptions and broke up 11 passes. For his efforts, he was named to the All-ACC first-team.

Harris' speed and athleticism can be used more than just at cornerback or wide receiver; the 6-0, 194 pound DB is also a solid return man. He is more known for his punt returning, but in 2007 he returned a kick-off 100 yards for a touchdown. Harris certainly has the athleticism to play corner in the NFL, but he is also tough and plays very physical. There are a few things in his mechanics that need a little help, but he will learn.

Harris ended up notching 46 tackles and six interceptions by the time the Hokies wrapped up the 2008 season. Since the opposition rarely tested Harris, those are pretty solid numbers.

That's the key with some of these guys - you don't know how good they are (like Brandon Flowers) because their conference already does and they don't throw at them. Harris is a shutdown corner and has to be addressed as such in the NFL. If he can translate these skills to the next level the Ravens will have another starting corner, which is exactly what they need.
That's the guy I wanted....good pick
 
With the 58th pick the New England Patriots select...

Patrick Chung, SS, Oregon

This is a needs pick by the Patriots imo. Current FS James Sanders is nothing special and SS Rodney Harrison may or may not be back. Brandon Merriweather is a keeper but may be better suited to FS since he has very strong covers skills. Chung could become the SS of the future in New England who's strengths are his willingness and success playing in-the-box and stopping the run. Chung is a fierce hitter and sure tackling high motor player with excellent speed for the position (4.5, 40). Chung almost came out in the 2008 draft and probably would have gone higher in 2008 than 2009 but is still well worth a 2nd rounder. He's an excellent special teamer where he can start for NE right away while easing into the SS position. Very good value for New England toward the end of the 2nd round.

I like the potential playmaking ability of a Chung/Merriweather tandem in the future.

 
With the 58th pick the New England Patriots select...Patrick Chung, SS, OregonThis is a needs pick by the Patriots imo. Current FS James Sanders is nothing special and SS Rodney Harrison may or may not be back. Brandon Merriweather is a keeper but may be better suited to FS since he has very strong covers skills. Chung could become the SS of the future in New England who's strengths are his willingness and success playing in-the-box and stopping the run. Chung is a fierce hitter and sure tackling high motor player with excellent speed for the position (4.5, 40). Chung almost came out in the 2008 draft and probably would have gone higher in 2008 than 2009 but is still well worth a 2nd rounder. He's an excellent special teamer where he can start for NE right away while easing into the SS position. Very good value for New England toward the end of the 2nd round.I like the potential playmaking ability of a Chung/Merriweather tandem in the future.
This was the guy I was targeting for Seattle at the start of the third round.
 
Panthers - Juaquin Iglesias, WR - Oklahoma

Muhammad is oooold, and neither Hackett nor Jarrett are any good. This isn't a team with many glaring needs, but if they lose Peppers they're in trouble without a 1st rounder this year. I thought also about Evander Hood and Derrick Williams.

Iglesias isn't a burner, but should make a fine possession receiver for the receiver-starved Panthers.

 

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