I see Jackson as #3 in non ppr and Westbrook #3 in ppr. Addai is #5 in both.I have the 5th pick and can't decide if I should take Jackson or not. I know LT, AP, and Westy will go 1-3 and either Brady or Moss will go 4. How does everyone right now rank Jackson, Addai and Barber?
Yesplymkr said:I have the 4th pick, but am very concerned about St. Jackson. Is anyone else worried about the Rams terrible offense?
Yesplymkr said:I have the 4th pick, but am very concerned about St. Jackson. Is anyone else worried about the Rams terrible offense?
I'm with you, I have the 6th pick on Thursday in a PPR league(.5 for RB, 1 for WR, 1.5 for TE), guessing LT, Peterson, Westy, Addai and Brady are going 1-5. I'm actually leaning towards Moss. May go WR/WR/WR the first 3 rounds. Have done a couple mocks this way, wasn't too bad. Got Moss/Edwards/Holt along with Jacobs/Edge & Selvin. Figure I can piece something together with that.Yesplymkr said:I have the 4th pick, but am very concerned about St. Jackson. Is anyone else worried about the Rams terrible offense?I have the 4th pick in my PPR league and a month ago if you told me I had that pick I wouldn't have hesitated to take Jackson if he was on the board. But I'm nervous enough about him and the Rams that I'll probably pass on him. I was leaning toward Addai, viewing him as a "safe" pick but Manning's injury is cause for some concern with him as well. The top of the draft has suddenly gotten very interesting lately.
The same was said of Larry Johnson last year after his holdout and we all saw how that played itself out. If the Rams were a better team, I'd be more inclined to trust Jackson's talent (which I believe is impressive). But like LJ last year, Jackson had a long holdout and returns to a bad team with a lot of issues - including serious questions on the offensive line. LJ killed the owners who drafted him in the first round last year because the combination of his holdout and being on a bad team proved too much for him to overcome. While I think Jackson is a more talented RB than Johnson, I'm not sure if he's talented enough to overcome the lengthy holdout and all of the Rams' issues.I've had the #3 pick in two drafts, took Jackson in both of them. Jackson gets all the carries in STL. Goal line back, 3rd down back, the whole shabang. I'm aware that the offense on this team isn't what it used to be, but they will move the ball and score TD's, and I think Jackson is going to be the key component in that system.The Rams just paid him a pretty good amount of money. I'm pretty sure they are going to use their investment as much as possible.
The same was said of Larry Johnson last year after his holdout and we all saw how that played itself out. If the Rams were a better team, I'd be more inclined to trust Jackson's talent (which I believe is impressive). But like LJ last year, Jackson had a long holdout and returns to a bad team with a lot of issues - including serious questions on the offensive line. LJ killed the owners who drafted him in the first round last year because the combination of his holdout and being on a bad team proved too much for him to overcome. While I think Jackson is a more talented RB than Johnson, I'm not sure if he's talented enough to overcome the lengthy holdout and all of the Rams' issues.I've had the #3 pick in two drafts, took Jackson in both of them. Jackson gets all the carries in STL. Goal line back, 3rd down back, the whole shabang. I'm aware that the offense on this team isn't what it used to be, but they will move the ball and score TD's, and I think Jackson is going to be the key component in that system.The Rams just paid him a pretty good amount of money. I'm pretty sure they are going to use their investment as much as possible.
While the above is true, the KC line was one in major transition and the guy under center was largely unproven. I think the Rams offense presents SJax with a more favorable environment to produce, at least moreso than LJ's last year. However, I maintain drafters at pick #4-6 may have safer options.The same was said of Larry Johnson last year after his holdout and we all saw how that played itself out. If the Rams were a better team, I'd be more inclined to trust Jackson's talent (which I believe is impressive). But like LJ last year, Jackson had a long holdout and returns to a bad team with a lot of issues - including serious questions on the offensive line. LJ killed the owners who drafted him in the first round last year because the combination of his holdout and being on a bad team proved too much for him to overcome. While I think Jackson is a more talented RB than Johnson, I'm not sure if he's talented enough to overcome the lengthy holdout and all of the Rams' issues.I've had the #3 pick in two drafts, took Jackson in both of them. Jackson gets all the carries in STL. Goal line back, 3rd down back, the whole shabang. I'm aware that the offense on this team isn't what it used to be, but they will move the ball and score TD's, and I think Jackson is going to be the key component in that system.The Rams just paid him a pretty good amount of money. I'm pretty sure they are going to use their investment as much as possible.
Not sure why you guys think the Rams offense is going to be bad. Last night they completely domianted the Ravens in every aspect of the game with both teams playing their #1's. Bulger wasn't touched, the o-line played great, rookie wr's Avery and Burton are friggen studs, Holt is 100% healthy and Sjax didn't even dress. You people are going to be in for a rude awakening.
Not sure why you guys think the Rams offense is going to be bad. Last night they completely domianted the Ravens in every aspect of the game with both teams playing their #1's. Bulger wasn't touched, the o-line played great, rookie wr's Avery and Burton are friggen studs, Holt is 100% healthy and Sjax didn't even dress. You people are going to be in for a rude awakening.
Its preseason, that dont mean anything. The week before the Chargers used only 5 startes and shut down those same Rams picking off Bulger 2 times and sacking him, with the Rams scoring a whopping 0 in the first half. I take very very little away from preseason about how good or bad a teams O or D may be, you would be wise to put little stock in it.Not sure why you guys think the Rams offense is going to be bad. Last night they completely domianted the Ravens in every aspect of the game with both teams playing their #1's. Bulger wasn't touched, the o-line played great, rookie wr's Avery and Burton are friggen studs, Holt is 100% healthy and Sjax didn't even dress. You people are going to be in for a rude awakening.
Before he signed?Were people that scared?I took Jackson in the 2nd round and late in the second round
He's good and all, but I don't think he's been cannonized yet.plymkr said:I have the 4th pick, but am very concerned about St. Jackson. Is anyone else worried about the Rams terrible offense?
That was not the Raven's Defense we've come to know and love. Let's see -- of the presumptive starters:Secondary:C. McAllister - DNPS. Rolle - DNPE. Reed - DNPLB:B. Scott - DNPR. Lewis - pulled after 1 seriesT. Suggs - played about 3 series in his first action since signing franchise tender a week ago.DL:H. Ngata - DNPK. Gregg - DNPT. Pryce - pulled after 1 series.So of 11 starters, 6 didn't play at all, 2 only played 1 series, and a 3rd was limited and rusty. That leaves Dawan Landry and Jarret Johnson (probably the 2 of the weaker starters) as the only real "ones" who played the whole first half.Not sure why you guys think the Rams offense is going to be bad. Last night they completely domianted the Ravens in every aspect of the game with both teams playing their #1's. Bulger wasn't touched, the o-line played great, rookie wr's Avery and Burton are friggen studs, Holt is 100% healthy and Sjax didn't even dress. You people are going to be in for a rude awakening.