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Shawne Merriman on Priest Holmes (1 Viewer)

Perhaps we should just let Karma take care of this. Maybe with some help from a block below the waist.
Yeah like what happened to a true New England Patriot, long-time and well-loved former Charger, and cheap shot artist Rodney Harrison.
Fixed. How's that glass house you're living in?I find it absolutely hysterical that even though the Patriots have been defeated and are out, people STILL want to take shots at them and their fans.

That right there speaks volumes to me about this board.
LOLThe thread was started as a jab at Merriman and if anything in defense of the Patriots. If you only want to hear from Patriots fans go to a Patriots board.
You're missing the point. The Pats are "over", their dynasty run is "finished". Brady and Belichick are "overrated". So why the need to constantly take shots at them? Everyone got what they wanted, the Patriots are out.Still bashing them just reeks of sour grapes to me.

 
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From this month's GQ article on Merriman:

"People in the NFL don't understand what's going on in that man's head," says Merriman's high school coach J.C. Pinkney. "If they did, the wouldn't play with him. He's looking to put people out for real. It's not a joke."
"You never want to end another player's career," Merriman says of his hit on Priest Holmes. "But it's a violent game." And then he smiles wickedly: "What can I say? Lights out."
This make you feel any different about the Patriots "disrespecting" Merriman with the dance at midfield?J
Nice useless :thumbup: Joe. Most of the replies are even worse.Can we get a :thisthreadsucks: smiley yet, because this one sure needs it.

 
I've never figured out how a player doing a dance is ok, but someone MOCKING AND TAUNTING A TEAM ON THEIR TEAM LOGO by MIMICKING the dance is being disrespectful.
Fixed your post
My comments were meant at players' actions in general, not only in this specific case. But since we're on the subject, what is fair game for a victory celebration?If the Pats had simply celebrated on the Chargers' logo, is that ok? Is doing the sack dance on the sideline ok (just not on the logo)? Should teammates only be allowed to shake hands but not jump up and down? Where is the line in the sand for what's ok and what's not?
Outside of Terrell Owens I have never heard or seen a player celebrate on an opposing teams logo. I cant imagine that ever happening without being called out for what it is.
 
Perhaps we should just let Karma take care of this. Maybe with some help from a block below the waist.
Yeah like what happened to a true New England Patriot, long-time and well-loved former Charger, and cheap shot artist Rodney Harrison.
Fixed. How's that glass house you're living in?I find it absolutely hysterical that even though the Patriots have been defeated and are out, people STILL want to take shots at them and their fans.

That right there speaks volumes to me about this board.
LOLThe thread was started as a jab at Merriman and if anything in defense of the Patriots. If you only want to hear from Patriots fans go to a Patriots board.
You're missing the point. The Pats are "over", their dynasty run is "finished". Brady and Belichick are "overrated". Then why the need to constantly take shots at them? Everyone got what they wanted, the Patriots are out.Still bashing them just reeks of sour grapes to me.
This thread was started to bash a Charger. The world doesn't revolve around the Patriots. Try checking out the Pats forums if you want all Pats all the time.
 
Exactly. Dropping balls and fumbling is directly linked to steroid use. Your logic is astounding. He said their logic was on par with their intelligence

LT didn't like the dancing on the Charger symbol after the game and Belichick is such a sore loser he can't even shake a man's hand or actually speak his name when discussing the game. BB is a sore loser???? no kidding, what's your point?

I really wouldn't want my LB saying that he does his best not to hit people so hard as to cause them injury. ....he obviously isn't going out of his way to hurt people. :thumbup:
You are proving his point.
 
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I've never figured out how a player doing a dance is ok, but someone MOCKING AND TAUNTING A TEAM ON THEIR TEAM LOGO by MIMICKING the dance is being disrespectful.
Fixed your post
My comments were meant at players' actions in general, not only in this specific case. But since we're on the subject, what is fair game for a victory celebration?If the Pats had simply celebrated on the Chargers' logo, is that ok? Is doing the sack dance on the sideline ok (just not on the logo)? Should teammates only be allowed to shake hands but not jump up and down? Where is the line in the sand for what's ok and what's not?
Outside of Terrell Owens I have never heard or seen a player celebrate on an opposing teams logo. I cant imagine that ever happening without being called out for what it is.
college football down?
 
Nice useless :confused: Joe. Most of the replies are even worse.

Can we get a :thisthreadsucks: smiley yet, because this one sure needs it.
yeah Groovus, I almost got lured in and posted mean and hurtful things about Merriman and Chargers fans... but then I remembered that there were a few of you out there that are pretty decent fans.See you guys in week 4(?) next year. It's gonna' be quite the grudge match.

 
Exactly. Dropping balls and fumbling is directly linked to steroid use. Your logic is astounding. He said their logic was on par with their intelligence

LT didn't like the dancing on the Charger symbol after the game and Belichick is such a sore loser he can't even shake a man's hand or actually speak his name when discussing the game. BB is a sore loser???? no kidding, what's your point?

I really wouldn't want my LB saying that he does his best not to hit people so hard as to cause them injury. ....he obviously isn't going out of his way to hurt people. :confused:
You are proving his point.
Since when was dropping balls associated with intelligence or steroid use? Is Chad Johnson some kind of rocket scientist?My point was the last people that should be talking about post game whining is Pats fans given their coaches tendencies. Bill should be more gracious and LT probably should have kept his mouth shut.

 
Perhaps we should just let Karma take care of this. Maybe with some help from a block below the waist.
Yeah like what happened to a true New England Patriot, long-time and well-loved former Charger, and cheap shot artist Rodney Harrison.
Fixed. How's that glass house you're living in?I find it absolutely hysterical that even though the Patriots have been defeated and are out, people STILL want to take shots at them and their fans.

That right there speaks volumes to me about this board.
LOLThe thread was started as a jab at Merriman and if anything in defense of the Patriots. If you only want to hear from Patriots fans go to a Patriots board.
You're missing the point. The Pats are "over", their dynasty run is "finished". Brady and Belichick are "overrated". So why the need to constantly take shots at them? Everyone got what they wanted, the Patriots are out.Still bashing them just reeks of sour grapes to me.
I guessed you missed the threads debating if Tom Brady was the best QB of all time and if was the most clutch player ever to play QB. Maybe you should only read these forums when the Patriots win if you cant handle it.
 
This thread was started to bash a Charger. The world doesn't revolve around the Patriots. Try checking out the Pats forums if you want all Pats all the time.
Actually the OP asked how this new information about this Charger changed the way people look at an incident that involved the Chargers and the Patriots.I don't know if you heard - but the Patriots beat the Chargers in the playoffs a couple weeks ago and a couple of chargers were upset about how the Patriots celebrated immediately after the game. That's what this thread is about.
 
LT is a baby too. When did I say otherwise? And Belichick wasn't saying Mangini's name including the period after they BEAT the Jets - it has nothing to do with being a "loser". Read up on the subject perhaps and then you will have a better educated perspective on the matter. Maybe search the local Boston or New York papers, establish the timeline. GL.
Try Manning
 
As a Chargers' fan, Merriman is fast becoming one of my all-time least favorite Chargers. His hold-out during his rookie campaign was ridiculous. That dance is entirely stupid (as are all me-first celebrations). His 'roid charge makes the entire team look bad.

Sometimes I wish the Chargers would go back to being squeaky-clean and 7-9 instead of 14-2 with a quarter of the team in some sort of legal trouble.

 
Exactly. Dropping balls and fumbling is directly linked to steroid use. Your logic is astounding. He said their logic was on par with their intelligence

LT didn't like the dancing on the Charger symbol after the game and Belichick is such a sore loser he can't even shake a man's hand or actually speak his name when discussing the game. BB is a sore loser???? no kidding, what's your point?

I really wouldn't want my LB saying that he does his best not to hit people so hard as to cause them injury. ....he obviously isn't going out of his way to hurt people. :lmao:
You are proving his point.
Since when was dropping balls associated with intelligence or steroid use? Is Chad Johnson some kind of rocket scientist?
Are you saying Chad Johnson is on steroids?
 
This thread was started to bash a Charger. The world doesn't revolve around the Patriots. Try checking out the Pats forums if you want all Pats all the time.
Actually the OP asked how this new information about this Charger changed the way people look at an incident that involved the Chargers and the Patriots.I don't know if you heard - but the Patriots beat the Chargers in the playoffs a couple weeks ago and a couple of chargers were upset about how the Patriots celebrated immediately after the game. That's what this thread is about.
I was responding to this
You're missing the point. The Pats are "over", their dynasty run is "finished". Brady and Belichick are "overrated". So why the need to constantly take shots at them? Everyone got what they wanted, the Patriots are out.
It should be easy to figure out. I quoted it.
 
Exactly. Dropping balls and fumbling is directly linked to steroid use. Your logic is astounding. He said their logic was on par with their intelligence

LT didn't like the dancing on the Charger symbol after the game and Belichick is such a sore loser he can't even shake a man's hand or actually speak his name when discussing the game. BB is a sore loser???? no kidding, what's your point?

I really wouldn't want my LB saying that he does his best not to hit people so hard as to cause them injury. ....he obviously isn't going out of his way to hurt people. :angry:
You are proving his point.
Since when was dropping balls associated with intelligence or steroid use? Is Chad Johnson some kind of rocket scientist?
Are you saying Chad Johnson is on steroids?
That's exactly what I'm saying :lmao:
 
This thread was started to bash a Charger. The world doesn't revolve around the Patriots. Try checking out the Pats forums if you want all Pats all the time.
Actually the OP asked how this new information about this Charger changed the way people look at an incident that involved the Chargers and the Patriots.I don't know if you heard - but the Patriots beat the Chargers in the playoffs a couple weeks ago and a couple of chargers were upset about how the Patriots celebrated immediately after the game. That's what this thread is about.
I was responding to this
You're missing the point. The Pats are "over", their dynasty run is "finished". Brady and Belichick are "overrated". So why the need to constantly take shots at them? Everyone got what they wanted, the Patriots are out.
It should be easy to figure out. I quoted it.
And he was responding to this:
Perhaps we should just let Karma take care of this. Maybe with some help from a block below the waist.
Yeah like what happened to a true New England Patriot, long-time and well-loved former Charger, and cheap shot artist Rodney Harrison.
A Chargers fans brought up the Patriots.Should be easy to figure out - he quoted it.

 
See you guys in week 4(?) next year. It's gonna' be quite the grudge match.
:lmao: That should be quite the humdinger, I hope everyone's healthy and ready for that one. Problem is it's just one of 16. I really hope there's a rematch in the playoffs - that would be platinum.
 
::streeeeeeeatch:

Well I'm packing it up for the day, going home.

Thanks for the fun Joe. :thumbup:

Chargers fans - don't blow a gasket.

 
This thread was started to bash a Charger. The world doesn't revolve around the Patriots. Try checking out the Pats forums if you want all Pats all the time.
Actually the OP asked how this new information about this Charger changed the way people look at an incident that involved the Chargers and the Patriots.I don't know if you heard - but the Patriots beat the Chargers in the playoffs a couple weeks ago and a couple of chargers were upset about how the Patriots celebrated immediately after the game. That's what this thread is about.
I was responding to this
You're missing the point. The Pats are "over", their dynasty run is "finished". Brady and Belichick are "overrated". So why the need to constantly take shots at them? Everyone got what they wanted, the Patriots are out.
It should be easy to figure out. I quoted it.
And he was responding to this:
Perhaps we should just let Karma take care of this. Maybe with some help from a block below the waist.
Yeah like what happened to a true New England Patriot, long-time and well-loved former Charger, and cheap shot artist Rodney Harrison.
A Chargers fans brought up the Patriots.Should be easy to figure out - he quoted it.
Nice work, JWW! :thumbup:
 
His hold-out during his rookie campaign was ridiculous.
If you're talking about mini-camps, I thought it was more ridiculous on the part of the Chargers than it was on the part of Merriman's agent, but it was ridiculous by both parties.If you're talking about training camp, he only held out a week -- one of the shortest holdouts by a Charger first-rounder in the Butler/Smith era.
 
As a Chargers' fan, Merriman is fast becoming one of my all-time least favorite Chargers. His hold-out during his rookie campaign was ridiculous. That dance is entirely stupid (as are all me-first celebrations). His 'roid charge makes the entire team look bad.
:thumbup: For me, I grew tired of Merriman's anticts during the game against Seattle. After sacking Hassleback, Merriman immediately does his stupid dance downfield. Meanwhile its the 4th quarter and there is a min or so left in the game and Hassleback is rushing to the line to get the next play off. Merriman barely avoids getting called for offsides and had to sprint back to the line of scrimmage.As a whole the Chargers defensive celebrations need to go. I grew tired of them the moment I learned Luis Castillo's hurt his ankle not on a NFL play, but getting up so he could do some stupid celebration.
 
Special teamers get their own rules. If you are only on the field maybe 5 times a game you should celebrate every play you make.
I disagree. In fact I hate it when special teamers act up after making a tackle, in fact I hate it when anyone acts up after making a tackle. You did your job, woooohoooo. Now I'm going to go work on my "just wrote one good line of code" dance, I feel it's not up to par with my "just gave a good presentation" dance.To quote Iverson "Get in the game man."
 
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Did people complain about that little dance move Junior Seau did after every big play? I don't remember hearing any complaints about it, but maybe I just missed them.

I don't really care about end zone celebrations or sack celebrations or whatever one way or the other. Even mocking other people's moves can be cool (like when TO did Ray Lewis's dance during player introductions). If Richard Seymour wanted to do a lights out dance after sacking Rivers, okay by me.

But after the buzzer it's time to shake hands and say "good game," not "nanny nanny boo-boo." JMHO.

 
I've never figured out how a player doing a dance is ok, but someone MIMICKING the dance is being disrespectful.
You missing some key parts.It was after the game.It was on their logo.Teams rarely start doing a TD/Sack dance at the end of the game. It's rude. It shows a lack of respect.During the game, it's emotions. Once the game is over, you're trying to rub it in their face.
I think this is very well put. It's not the act of mimicking the dance, but when and where it was done that made it not classy. I'm not a fan for either team, but Tom Brady might have an opinion about what a few of his teammates did after that game the next he's about to lineup across from Merriman. Watch out...is all I have to say to that.
 
But it's acceptable to show up a QB and his fans by doing a sack dance? That's about as big of a double-standard as it gets.
I just barely care enough about this topic to respond. To me, celebrating after a play is more appropriate than rubbing a team's nose in it after a final outcome. Call me old fashioned, but I think a top seeded has earned some degree of respect that allows them and their fans to leave a generally successful season behind.
 
I don't really care about end zone celebrations or sack celebrations or whatever one way or the other. Even mocking other people's moves can be cool (like when TO did Ray Lewis's dance during player introductions). If Richard Seymour wanted to do a lights out dance after sacking Rivers, okay by me.But after the buzzer it's time to shake hands and say "good game," not "nanny nanny boo-boo." JMHO.
What about before the game? Is that a good time to talk smack about your upcoming opponent?Seems to me like people are just a little overly sensitive to the where's and how's of trash-talking. I was taught during my youth that scoreboard had final say.Look, I'm not saying what Hobbs did was right, but Hobbs' actions were in direct retaliation to the crap coming out of Merriman's mouth in the days leading up to the game. Does the "Brady sucks" chant Merriman led ring a bell? Like I said earlier... don't want to be treated like a jerk; don't act like a jerk.
 
I'm not a fan for either team, but Tom Brady might have an opinion about what a few of his teammates did after that game the next he's about to lineup across from Merriman. Watch out...is all I have to say to that.
As does Philip Rivers for calling Hobbs "the sorriest corner in the league". Let's hope Hobbs and Colvin aren't best buds either. :rolleyes:
 
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I don't really care about end zone celebrations or sack celebrations or whatever one way or the other. Even mocking other people's moves can be cool (like when TO did Ray Lewis's dance during player introductions). If Richard Seymour wanted to do a lights out dance after sacking Rivers, okay by me.But after the buzzer it's time to shake hands and say "good game," not "nanny nanny boo-boo." JMHO.
What about before the game? Is that a good time to talk smack about your upcoming opponent?
Yeah, before the game is awesome.
Does the "Brady sucks" chant Merriman led ring a bell?
No. Should it?
 
I don't really care about end zone celebrations or sack celebrations or whatever one way or the other. Even mocking other people's moves can be cool (like when TO did Ray Lewis's dance during player introductions). If Richard Seymour wanted to do a lights out dance after sacking Rivers, okay by me.

But after the buzzer it's time to shake hands and say "good game," not "nanny nanny boo-boo." JMHO.
What about before the game? Is that a good time to talk smack about your upcoming opponent?
Yeah, before the game is awesome.
Does the "Brady sucks" chant Merriman led ring a bell?
No. Should it?
Enjoy! http://youtube.com/watch?v=yHyLlL01tGA

 
Does the "Brady sucks" chant Merriman led ring a bell?
No. Should it?
Yeah, that's news to me, love to see a link on that one.
I was taught during my youth that scoreboard had final say.
Right, so why say anything after that? The classy thing to do is take the W and go home in style - why instead join the crapfest at that point?
I think he's referring to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHyLlL01tGAHe caught a litte heat for encouraging the "Brady Sucks" chant.

J

 
Does the "Brady sucks" chant Merriman led ring a bell?
No. Should it?
Yeah, that's news to me, love to see a link on that one.
I was taught during my youth that scoreboard had final say.
Right, so why say anything after that? The classy thing to do is take the W and go home in style - why instead join the crapfest at that point?
Hes referring to a Scott and BR led Charger power rally. I highly doubt the Patriots saw it. I think their beef with Merriman was more due to Merriman picking the Jets to win than anything. Regardless any sort of taunting behavior on a team logo is reprehensable.
 
Does the "Brady sucks" chant Merriman led ring a bell?
No. Should it?
Yeah, that's news to me, love to see a link on that one.
I was taught during my youth that scoreboard had final say.
Right, so why say anything after that? The classy thing to do is take the W and go home in style - why instead join the crapfest at that point?
Nobody in NE is saying what Hobbs did was right. Just that Merriman sooooooo had it coming.
 
Does the "Brady sucks" chant Merriman led ring a bell?
No. Should it?
Yeah, that's news to me, love to see a link on that one.
I was taught during my youth that scoreboard had final say.
Right, so why say anything after that? The classy thing to do is take the W and go home in style - why instead join the crapfest at that point?
Hes referring to a Scott and BR led Charger power rally. I highly doubt the Patriots saw it. I think their beef with Merriman was more due to Merriman picking the Jets to win than anything. Regardless any sort of taunting behavior on a team logo is reprehensable.
If I saw it, someone on the Pats saw it.
 
Does the "Brady sucks" chant Merriman led ring a bell?
No. Should it?
Yeah, that's news to me, love to see a link on that one.
I was taught during my youth that scoreboard had final say.
Right, so why say anything after that? The classy thing to do is take the W and go home in style - why instead join the crapfest at that point?
Nobody in NE is saying what Hobbs did was right. Just that Merriman sooooooo had it coming.
Every team in the NFL has it coming. It's not like this is reserved to things only Pats players or Chargers players do - it happens all the time. Like I said before this whole thread is pretty lame (yet disturbingly effective) :unsure: by Joe.This whole thread should be sent to the :thumbup:
 
Does the "Brady sucks" chant Merriman led ring a bell?
No. Should it?
Yeah, that's news to me, love to see a link on that one.
I was taught during my youth that scoreboard had final say.
Right, so why say anything after that? The classy thing to do is take the W and go home in style - why instead join the crapfest at that point?
Hes referring to a Scott and BR led Charger power rally. I highly doubt the Patriots saw it. I think their beef with Merriman was more due to Merriman picking the Jets to win than anything. Regardless any sort of taunting behavior on a team logo is reprehensable.
If I saw it, someone on the Pats saw it.
Considering the oldest comment on that particular video was after the game, Im going to call BS on that one
 
Kit Fisto said:
Bizkiteer said:
I'm not a fan for either team, but Tom Brady might have an opinion about what a few of his teammates did after that game the next he's about to lineup across from Merriman. Watch out...is all I have to say to that.
As does Philip Rivers for calling Hobbs "the sorriest corner in the league". Let's hope Hobbs and Colvin aren't best buds either. :hot:
That could be the case, but Colvin doesn't nearly strike as much fear into an opposing offensive player as Merriman. You have to game plan for Merriman, which is not the case for Colvin. :excited:
 
I've never figured out how a player doing a dance is ok, but someone MIMICKING the dance is being disrespectful.
You missing some key parts.It was after the game.It was on their logo.Teams rarely start doing a TD/Sack dance at the end of the game. It's rude. It shows a lack of respect.During the game, it's emotions. Once the game is over, you're trying to rub it in their face.
I think you are missing the point too if you think that the "sack dances" are all emotion. They are all pre-planned, rehearsed, etc. and they are done for the sole purpose of taunting an opponent. I've played plenty of football, yet I've never found myself doing a dance during a game.
 
No one ever mimicked Barry Sanders TD celebration...

And Butkus never hurted anyone with the help of an unfair advantage...

If you spit in the air, it might come down on your face... be prepared to wipe it out without whinning...

 
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Doo said:
Colvin isn't a dirty cheater, Merriman is, your point is moot.
His point had nothing to do with who is or isn't a cheater, so it looks like you missed it completely.
 
From this month's GQ article on Merriman:

"People in the NFL don't understand what's going on in that man's head," says Merriman's high school coach J.C. Pinkney. "If they did, the wouldn't play with him. He's looking to put people out for real. It's not a joke."
"You never want to end another player's career," Merriman says of his hit on Priest Holmes. "But it's a violent game." And then he smiles wickedly: "What can I say? Lights out."
This make you feel any different about the Patriots "disrespecting" Merriman with the dance at midfield?J
This really is a stupid post. If he is trying to take people out by playing hard hitting football then I have no problem with it whatsoever. I would hope every defensive player on my favorite team was trying to hit and tackle as hard as possible. Priest Holmes isnt on the Patriots and has no ties to the Patriots. Within the quote he says he didnt want to end his career, yet people will find something to critize him about anyway. Merriman isnt a cheap shot artist, he doesnt molest little boys and every team in the league would love to have a player of his caliber on their team. The lights out celebration is nothing more than a marketing gimick to sell himself to the american public. Its not mocking or taunting a fallen QB. He sells T-shirts and hats with the lights out logo on it and gets more airtime and in the future more money for a being a more well known player by doing so.
Calling one of the owners stupid? Have a nice season. :hey: As to the bolded part... :goodposting:

 
From this month's GQ article on Merriman:

"People in the NFL don't understand what's going on in that man's head," says Merriman's high school coach J.C. Pinkney. "If they did, the wouldn't play with him. He's looking to put people out for real. It's not a joke."
"You never want to end another player's career," Merriman says of his hit on Priest Holmes. "But it's a violent game." And then he smiles wickedly: "What can I say? Lights out."
This make you feel any different about the Patriots "disrespecting" Merriman with the dance at midfield?J
This really is a stupid post. If he is trying to take people out by playing hard hitting football then I have no problem with it whatsoever. I would hope every defensive player on my favorite team was trying to hit and tackle as hard as possible. Priest Holmes isnt on the Patriots and has no ties to the Patriots. Within the quote he says he didnt want to end his career, yet people will find something to critize him about anyway. Merriman isnt a cheap shot artist, he doesnt molest little boys and every team in the league would love to have a player of his caliber on their team. The lights out celebration is nothing more than a marketing gimick to sell himself to the american public. Its not mocking or taunting a fallen QB. He sells T-shirts and hats with the lights out logo on it and gets more airtime and in the future more money for a being a more well known player by doing so.
Calling one of the owners stupid? Have a nice season. :bag: As to the bolded part... :ph34r:
I never called him stupid. I said it was a stupid post, kind of like yours. A lights out celebration is nothing different than a Chad Johnson TD celebration. Neither of which is taunting or mocking anyone.
 
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