Sheffler the ideal TE2? (1 Viewer)

[JHuber77]

I was reading on MLive this morning that Tony Sheffler will be on the field quite a bit more than he has in years past, as the Lions are going with a 2 TE based offense. I personally can see a good bump in production, as the Lions will be playing from behind quite a bit. With Stafford beginning to grow into a good QB (his QB rating so far this preseason is 20 points higher than last year) and with the added weapons on offense, teams will not be able to double Sheffler for fear of others getting their share (Johnson, Burleson, Best). Could he be an ideal TE2? Good hands and good blocking. I don't see him scoring alot of touchdowns but could be very serviceable for teams who currently have Jermichael Finley (I think the Lions play Buffalo week 10 when Finley is on bye). What does the Shark Pool think of this? I only ask because I didn't see a Faceoff or Spotlight for him. TIA

 

[skillz]

I think you could take him as a TE2 as long as you get him late. Lions offense looks real good although Calvin will be getting a ton of redzone looks. Also, it's unclear what Pettigrew's role may be, if any, by week 10. No harm lost though if you can get him late as a TE2. If he doesn't work out, drop him for someone else.

 

[JHuber77]

I didn't want this to turn into a WDIS thread. I was just curious what kind of production we might see from him. I can see something like 725 yards or so and maybe 6-7 TD's, just inside the top 10. Went undrafted in my league. I agree that he is a no brainer to pick up since he basically costs nothing other than an add in most leagues. I just wonder if he is going to offer more than say Dustin Keller or be more like a guy right near the bottom of the top 10.

 

[thriftyrocker]

I didn't want this to turn into a WDIS thread. I was just curious what kind of production we might see from him. I can see something like 725 yards or so and maybe 6-7 TD's, just inside the top 10. Went undrafted in my league. I agree that he is a no brainer to pick up since he basically costs nothing other than an add in most leagues. I just wonder if he is going to offer more than say Dustin Keller or be more like a guy right near the bottom of the top 10.

I think both those numbers are optimistic for Scheffler. I think it's more likely Keller will get a healthy TD total. Yardage and catches might be a wash though given I expect Detroit to air it out more. Shiancoe's another interesting comparison because if his 11 TDs from last year fall back down to earth, he's no better than Scheffler either.

 

[Bri]

I was reading on MLive this morning that Tony Sheffler will be on the field quite a bit more than he has in years past, as the Lions are going with a 2 TE based offense. I personally can see a good bump in production, as the Lions will be playing from behind quite a bit. With Stafford beginning to grow into a good QB (his QB rating so far this preseason is 20 points higher than last year) and with the added weapons on offense, teams will not be able to double Sheffler for fear of others getting their share (Johnson, Burleson, Best). Could he be an ideal TE2? Good hands and good blocking. I don't see him scoring alot of touchdowns but could be very serviceable for teams who currently have Jermichael Finley (I think the Lions play Buffalo week 10 when Finley is on bye). What does the Shark Pool think of this? I only ask because I didn't see a Faceoff or Spotlight for him. TIA

why draft a TE to sit on your bench 9 weeks?

 

[JHuber77]

I was reading on MLive this morning that Tony Sheffler will be on the field quite a bit more than he has in years past, as the Lions are going with a 2 TE based offense. I personally can see a good bump in production, as the Lions will be playing from behind quite a bit. With Stafford beginning to grow into a good QB (his QB rating so far this preseason is 20 points higher than last year) and with the added weapons on offense, teams will not be able to double Sheffler for fear of others getting their share (Johnson, Burleson, Best). Could he be an ideal TE2? Good hands and good blocking. I don't see him scoring alot of touchdowns but could be very serviceable for teams who currently have Jermichael Finley (I think the Lions play Buffalo week 10 when Finley is on bye). What does the Shark Pool think of this? I only ask because I didn't see a Faceoff or Spotlight for him. TIA

why draft a TE to sit on your bench 9 weeks?

Didn't draft Sheffler, he is sitting on the waiver wire. I was wondering about his production from a statiscal and strategy standpoint. Besides there is nothing wrong with having depth to account for injuries/ bye weeks. As I recall, Finley has dealt with knee injuries in the past as well

 

[Bri]

I was reading on MLive this morning that Tony Sheffler will be on the field quite a bit more than he has in years past, as the Lions are going with a 2 TE based offense. I personally can see a good bump in production, as the Lions will be playing from behind quite a bit. With Stafford beginning to grow into a good QB (his QB rating so far this preseason is 20 points higher than last year) and with the added weapons on offense, teams will not be able to double Sheffler for fear of others getting their share (Johnson, Burleson, Best). Could he be an ideal TE2? Good hands and good blocking. I don't see him scoring alot of touchdowns but could be very serviceable for teams who currently have Jermichael Finley (I think the Lions play Buffalo week 10 when Finley is on bye). What does the Shark Pool think of this? I only ask because I didn't see a Faceoff or Spotlight for him. TIA

why draft a TE to sit on your bench 9 weeks?

Didn't draft Sheffler, he is sitting on the waiver wire. I was wondering about his production from a statistical and strategy standpoint. Besides there is nothing wrong with having depth to account for injuries/ bye weeks. As I recall, Finley has dealt with knee injuries in the past as well

(wanting to discuss)You said bye week of week 10, 9 weeks as a backup-9 of 13 FF weeks you get zero.I understand he is being used in the slot and the Lions are showing an O that seems it will very much include him, but don't forget they drafted the top TE last year and are happy with him too. How many catches do you figure Lions TEs get in week 10? 8? Do you feel comfy thinking it won't be 6 for Pettigrew and 2 for Scheffler? Scheffler also has a poor injury history ( not necessarily per game but seems like every injury report and FF concern weekly).Denver uses the TE a lot and his best totals are 645 yards and 5 TDs in separate years. All this is why I think holding onto Scheffler for 9 weeks is too big a risk.I do like the waiver wire idea.All in all, I don't see any TE worth rostering for 9 weeks that is a typical FF backup, do you?

 

[Go deep]

I was reading on MLive this morning that Tony Sheffler will be on the field quite a bit more than he has in years past, as the Lions are going with a 2 TE based offense. I personally can see a good bump in production, as the Lions will be playing from behind quite a bit. With Stafford beginning to grow into a good QB (his QB rating so far this preseason is 20 points higher than last year) and with the added weapons on offense, teams will not be able to double Sheffler for fear of others getting their share (Johnson, Burleson, Best). Could he be an ideal TE2? Good hands and good blocking. I don't see him scoring alot of touchdowns but could be very serviceable for teams who currently have Jermichael Finley (I think the Lions play Buffalo week 10 when Finley is on bye). What does the Shark Pool think of this? I only ask because I didn't see a Faceoff or Spotlight for him. TIA

I agree, Scheffler is a great #2 this year. Except his matchup in Buffalo might not be as good a you think. The Bills were 2nd in passing yards allowed, only finishing behind the Jets.Scheffler is an athletic TE with very good hands. Considering the attention Johnson and Burelson will command on the outside and Best in the Backfield, Scheffler should have plenty of space in the middle to do some damage. With Stafford still being a young QB, he will check down to the TE alot. My only concern with Scheffler is his ability to stay healthy, but if he does, he can be a great #2 TE, and could possibly put up top 10 numbers. Pettigrew doesnt scare me at all, he is more of a blocking TE than anything, as you can tell by him dropping an easy 6 in the endzone of their last preseason game.650-750 yards and 6-7 TD's is a pretty good bet if he stays healthy.

 

[Go deep]

I was reading on MLive this morning that Tony Sheffler will be on the field quite a bit more than he has in years past, as the Lions are going with a 2 TE based offense. I personally can see a good bump in production, as the Lions will be playing from behind quite a bit. With Stafford beginning to grow into a good QB (his QB rating so far this preseason is 20 points higher than last year) and with the added weapons on offense, teams will not be able to double Sheffler for fear of others getting their share (Johnson, Burleson, Best). Could he be an ideal TE2? Good hands and good blocking. I don't see him scoring alot of touchdowns but could be very serviceable for teams who currently have Jermichael Finley (I think the Lions play Buffalo week 10 when Finley is on bye). What does the Shark Pool think of this? I only ask because I didn't see a Faceoff or Spotlight for him. TIA

why draft a TE to sit on your bench 9 weeks?

Didn't draft Sheffler, he is sitting on the waiver wire. I was wondering about his production from a statistical and strategy standpoint. Besides there is nothing wrong with having depth to account for injuries/ bye weeks. As I recall, Finley has dealt with knee injuries in the past as well

(wanting to discuss)You said bye week of week 10, 9 weeks as a backup-9 of 13 FF weeks you get zero.I understand he is being used in the slot and the Lions are showing an O that seems it will very much include him, but don't forget they drafted the top TE last year and are happy with him too. How many catches do you figure Lions TEs get in week 10? 8? Do you feel comfy thinking it won't be 6 for Pettigrew and 2 for Scheffler? Scheffler also has a poor injury history ( not necessarily per game but seems like every injury report and FF concern weekly).Denver uses the TE a lot and his best totals are 645 yards and 5 TDs in separate years. All this is why I think holding onto Scheffler for 9 weeks is too big a risk.I do like the waiver wire idea.All in all, I don't see any TE worth rostering for 9 weeks that is a typical FF backup, do you?

How can you say this, you have no idea how many roster spots he has. If he does have room to roster a #2 TE, Scheffler is jusst as good a bet as any TE you can get after the top 12. In all but one of my leagues, everyone carries at least 2 TE's, so saying Scheffler isnt worth rostering is pretty short-sighted.

 

[JHuber77]

we have 16 roster spots. My concern is that I have Finley, and he hasn't exactly had a clean bill of health. While he has the upside, I just want to make sure all my bases are covered which leads me to my other issue. Our playoffs are based on winning percentage, total points, then head 2 head. So basically I want reserve players that are producing points to add to my total points in case of winning percentage ties.

I wasn't trying to make this a WDID or WDIS thread. I was just doing this for a comparison to backup TE's like Dustin Keller or Carlson types to try to find out what kind of production we could expect from Scheffler. I agree with a previous poster in the fact that Pettigrew doesn't scare me at all either. I also believe that he will be more of a blocking TE.

 

[Bri]

I was reading on MLive this morning that Tony Sheffler will be on the field quite a bit more than he has in years past, as the Lions are going with a 2 TE based offense. I personally can see a good bump in production, as the Lions will be playing from behind quite a bit. With Stafford beginning to grow into a good QB (his QB rating so far this preseason is 20 points higher than last year) and with the added weapons on offense, teams will not be able to double Sheffler for fear of others getting their share (Johnson, Burleson, Best). Could he be an ideal TE2? Good hands and good blocking. I don't see him scoring alot of touchdowns but could be very serviceable for teams who currently have Jermichael Finley (I think the Lions play Buffalo week 10 when Finley is on bye). What does the Shark Pool think of this? I only ask because I didn't see a Faceoff or Spotlight for him. TIA

why draft a TE to sit on your bench 9 weeks?

Didn't draft Sheffler, he is sitting on the waiver wire. I was wondering about his production from a statistical and strategy standpoint. Besides there is nothing wrong with having depth to account for injuries/ bye weeks. As I recall, Finley has dealt with knee injuries in the past as well

(wanting to discuss)You said bye week of week 10, 9 weeks as a backup-9 of 13 FF weeks you get zero.I understand he is being used in the slot and the Lions are showing an O that seems it will very much include him, but don't forget they drafted the top TE last year and are happy with him too. How many catches do you figure Lions TEs get in week 10? 8? Do you feel comfy thinking it won't be 6 for Pettigrew and 2 for Scheffler? Scheffler also has a poor injury history ( not necessarily per game but seems like every injury report and FF concern weekly).Denver uses the TE a lot and his best totals are 645 yards and 5 TDs in separate years. All this is why I think holding onto Scheffler for 9 weeks is too big a risk.I do like the waiver wire idea.All in all, I don't see any TE worth rostering for 9 weeks that is a typical FF backup, do you?

How can you say this, you have no idea how many roster spots he has. If he does have room to roster a #2 TE, Scheffler is jusst as good a bet as any TE you can get after the top 12. In all but one of my leagues, everyone carries at least 2 TE's, so saying Scheffler isnt worth rostering is pretty short-sighted.

In two posts, I gave several reasons so cmon with the short-sighted.re roster size-Why would anyone in a 30 or 10 roster team want a guy that sits 9 of 13 FF weeks? It's not like if you have 30 spots you are excited to have a guy sit 9 weeks. Scheffler is not a developmental project for the Lions, Pettigrew clearly is. I imagine when they drafted the top TE in his class, they expect in time he'll be a very good TE-not much of a leap there. It's possible one believes Scheffler will be good elsewhere in a few years.I guess the best way I can show you is please give me a MFL link to one of your leagues from last year, please.

 

[Bri]

we have 16 roster spots. My concern is that I have Finley, and he hasn't exactly had a clean bill of health. While he has the upside, I just want to make sure all my bases are covered which leads me to my other issue. Our playoffs are based on winning percentage, total points, then head 2 head. So basically I want reserve players that are producing points to add to my total points in case of winning percentage ties.

I wasn't trying to make this a WDID or WDIS thread. I was just doing this for a comparison to backup TE's like Dustin Keller or Carlson types to try to find out what kind of production we could expect from Scheffler. I agree with a previous poster in the fact that Pettigrew doesn't scare me at all either. I also believe that he will be more of a blocking TE.

In many scoring formats, QBs available late offer the best guarantee of some points. Injuries are a very much expected concern, but if your league allows 3 or 4 QBs then get 3 or 4. By round 11, QBs start to seem like the most assured guys to earn points on your bench.http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2010/a...CK=-1&TIME=

See when you get near Dustin Keller and Greg Olsen and all-Mark Sanchez and Vince Young will likely outscore them more weeks than they'll outscore those two. At that point in the draft, backup QBs also have a wider average of where they are picked like anywhere between 9 and 15 will still offer a round 12 ADP. I could see Stafford and Henne falling to 11 in some drafts too.

Check with your scoring, but usually QBs are the safest play for non-starting bench points-and again, injuries are expected.

 

[JHuber77]

we have 16 roster spots. My concern is that I have Finley, and he hasn't exactly had a clean bill of health. While he has the upside, I just want to make sure all my bases are covered which leads me to my other issue. Our playoffs are based on winning percentage, total points, then head 2 head. So basically I want reserve players that are producing points to add to my total points in case of winning percentage ties.

I wasn't trying to make this a WDID or WDIS thread. I was just doing this for a comparison to backup TE's like Dustin Keller or Carlson types to try to find out what kind of production we could expect from Scheffler. I agree with a previous poster in the fact that Pettigrew doesn't scare me at all either. I also believe that he will be more of a blocking TE.

In many scoring formats, QBs available late offer the best guarantee of some points. Injuries are a very much expected concern, but if your league allows 3 or 4 QBs then get 3 or 4. By round 11, QBs start to seem like the most assured guys to earn points on your bench.http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2010/a...CK=-1&TIME=

See when you get near Dustin Keller and Greg Olsen and all-Mark Sanchez and Vince Young will likely outscore them more weeks than they'll outscore those two. At that point in the draft, backup QBs also have a wider average of where they are picked like anywhere between 9 and 15 will still offer a round 12 ADP. I could see Stafford and Henne falling to 11 in some drafts too.

Check with your scoring, but usually QBs are the safest play for non-starting bench points-and again, injuries are expected.

What on earth are you talking about? Nobody said anything about QB's. Thanks captain obvious for pointing out that QB's score more than TE's. Go Deep is right. I realize that you were trying to help by saying that more QB's on my bench = more points. Its not that easy. I already have a backup QB (Stafford). I don't need another. Adding 2 more creates more of a problem as I cannot hold on to as many RB's and WR's. Having a good backup for a TE makes perfectly good sense to me as it does 3 things.1. Keeps him off my oppositions roster

2. Scores points thus adding to my total points

3. Assured that I have depth in case of injuries

I dont draft backup kickers or defenses as you can normally play matchups, and I assume most here do the same. This thread was created to see if we could find some numbers for Scheffler, not to debate FF stategy for various leagues.

 

[Bri]

Thanks captain obvious

OK done here

 

[Stinkin Ref]

Detroit's schedule is pretty brutal this year which is actually a good thing for a guy like Scheffler. I see him not only working the middle of the field, but moving around quite a bit as he is athletic enough to cause matchup problems, which DET will need to exploit against some of the tough teams on the schedule.

The trick with Scheffler is that you kind of need to decide ahead of time what you want to do. In a couple of leagues, I have almost talked myself into the idea of punting the TE position early in the draft, loading up at other positions, and taking a gamble and making Scheffler my TE1. Sometimes strategies like that (swing for the fence) are what help you win. Other times it can blow up and not work.

If you are focusing on him being a TE2, I think he loses value as you are basically having him on your bench most of the time, and then if he does start producing you then have a decision to make between him and yout TE1 every week. While it might be nice to have him as insurance and also to keep him off other peoples rosters, that roster spot could be used better elsewhere if you have a strong TE1.

At least one of the top TE will go down with an injury, so a guy like Scheffler won't be on the WW for long. So if you have the roster space, grab him, if nothing else he may be good trade bait when somebody else's TE goes down. Or if he looks like he will have a good year, it might open the option up for you to trade your TE1 for an upgrade at another position and kep Scheffler as your boy.