Should an extra 1/2 pt per catch mean this much ? (1 Viewer)

[HenryMuto]

In a draft right now where you get 1.5 pts for a TE catch instead of just 1. TE's are flying off the board.

3 TE's gone already at picks 14, 18 and 19.

Are the extra 35-40 pts worth the 2-3 round bump up ?(if they get 70-80 catches which is a great year for a TE)

In most normal drafts I believe the 1st TE's go around the 5th round.

Thoughts ?

 

[Creed Bratton]

In a draft right now where you get 1.5 pts for a TE catch instead of just 1. TE's are flying off the board.3 TE's gone already at picks 14, 18 and 19. Are the extra 35-40 pts worth the 2-3 round bump up ?(if they get 70-80 catches which is a great year for a TE) In most normal drafts I believe the 1st TE's go around the 5th round.Thoughts ?

Well, it really depends on your league's specific scoring system and lineup requirements, but I'm guessing not under relatively normal circumstances. Using the VBD or Draft Dominator could definitively answer this question for you. If the rest of the league is overvaluing tight ends under some wrong assumptions, then there should be some value at other positions for you.

 

[Creed Bratton]

Simply adding more points to the tight end position isn't going to account for tight ends becoming twice as valuable as they previously were. I think that you would have to increase the scarcity by having more starting tight ends required in the lineup. So, instead of starting only 12 tight ends, having a start 2TE league with 24 starting tight ends would make the position a lot more valuable. Still don't know if that would be enough to take three tight ends in the top twenty without using a specific VBD based application though.

 

[rizzler]

let zach miller (oak) slide and catch him later on... he will be a PPR hog this year...

 

[HenryMuto]

Standard PPR scoring (except for TE's of course)

1 pt per 10 yards, 1 pt for everyone else per catch and 1.5 for TE's

The starting requirements are a little different as well as they go 2 flexs instead of 1

So this gives you 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE your forced to start them 2 flexes from RB/WR/TE

So you could go

4 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE

3 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE

2 RB, 3 WR, 2 TE

2 RB, 2 WR, 3 TE

or any other combination.

I don't really like the 2 flex thing because they cut it down at WR and not RB.

I would have prefered to see 1-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-3 TE instead of the 2-4 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-3 TE format.

 

[SSOG]

\In a draft right now where you get 1.5 pts for a TE catch instead of just 1. TE's are flying off the board.3 TE's gone already at picks 14, 18 and 19. Are the extra 35-40 pts worth the 2-3 round bump up ?(if they get 70-80 catches which is a great year for a TE) In most normal drafts I believe the 1st TE's go around the 5th round.Thoughts ?

It's not that 1.5ppr causes a drastic bump, it's that TEs are generally underrated in non-1.5ppr leagues. Taking a TE in the 3rd is generally a very defensible play in standard leagues based on end-of-year standings. Or, at least, it was prior to the great TE explosion of 2009. In today's TE environment I think there are so many great TEs out there that they all see a slight reduction in their value.

 

[No Way Jose]

I would be willling to guess that Gates, Clark, and Davis/Finley will go pretty early in a format like that, because they are basically wr 1's and getting an extra .5 per reception only helps. I have no problem with where they are going in your draft. However, those are the only TE's I would expect to be off the board after round 3, and are the only ones worth "reaching" for.

 

[vandyt]

Standard PPR scoring (except for TE's of course)

1 pt per 10 yards, 1 pt for everyone else per catch and 1.5 for TE's

The starting requirements are a little different as well as they go 2 flexs instead of 1

So this gives you 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE your forced to start them 2 flexes from RB/WR/TE

So you could go

4 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE

3 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE

2 RB, 3 WR, 2 TE

2 RB, 2 WR, 3 TE

or any other combination.

I don't really like the 2 flex thing because they cut it down at WR and not RB.

I would have prefered to see 1-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-3 TE instead of the 2-4 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-3 TE format.

Then why play in this league?

 

[Sweet Love]

I am in a 12 team .5ppr for RB/WR and 1 ppr for TE (basically the same difference the OP is bringing up.

Here are my obesrvations of what the extra 1/2 point does:

Our top 3 TEs finished last year at 16, 19 and 25th overall. But when you take the QBs out of the equation (and just look at RB/WR/TE), they finished 5th, 7th and 11th respectively. While I may not nab a TE in Rounds 1-2, if I can get an elite one towards the end of round 3, I really may need to think it over.

Also, the extra .5 point rewards the hybrid TEs (guys like Gates, Gonzo, Davis and Witten) and further separates them from the pack (i.e. the 30 catch, 300 yard and 6 TD-types). The difference between TE#1 (Clark) and TE#10 (schiancoe) in our scoring was 127 points. The difference between WR#1 (Johnson) and WR#10 (White) was 78 points and RB#1 (CJ) and RB#10 (Grant) was 170 points (yet, if you pull CJ out and go to Rice (#2) the difference between #2 and #10 is 89 points); if you do the same for TEs (pull out #1) you only lose 22 points off the original 127. This highlights what a special year CJ had, but also shows that there is a big dropoff in talent from 1 or 2 to 10 when discussing TEs...this may be the reason they are going so high in the OPs draft.