Should the Colts draft a RB? (1 Viewer)

[Shutout]

Just something to chew on. The QB is a given, but then the COlts come back in the top of the 2nd and 3rd. SHould they be looking at dynamic WRs and/or TEs, address the many needs on defense, OR, should they go RB?

I know it doesn't seem obvious at first look and they can get by with Brown and Carter, but they play in a division where, arguably, 3 of the top 6 or 7 RBs in the league reside in Foster, MJD, and CJ.

Should it be a serious consideration?

 

[JaYz0618]

I think they have too many other needs, and rbs are almost a dime a dozen. Plus i think brown is ready with carter as the short yd guy

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'll post the disclaimer that I own Brown-Carter in two leagues - so of course I have some bias, but I can't see it happening.

If they are truely rebuilding, RB is one of the last positions they should be looking to fill since they have short shelf lives and they have a former first round pick on the roster already.

I traded for Brown in one league this offseason - because he finally looked like he was starting to put things together last season. He has tremendous quicks and runs with a low center of gravity. He started running alot more agressively, yet still under enough control to find the correct hole when he got his chances last season - vision seemed to be a problem earlier in his career.

They drafted Carter last season in Round 4 - and while its a new regime I don't see why they wouldn't want to see what they have in Brown and Carter using their picks elsewhere in what is going to be a "building" season anyway.

Will they draft a RB though? It's possible of course.

 

[Shutout]

I'll post the disclaimer that I own Brown-Carter in two leagues - so of course I have some bias, but I can't see it happening.If they are truely rebuilding, RB is one of the last positions they should be looking to fill since they have short shelf lives and they have a former first round pick on the roster already.I traded for Brown in one league this offseason - because he finally looked like he was starting to put things together last season. He has tremendous quicks and runs with a low center of gravity. He started running alot more agressively, yet still under enough control to find the correct hole when he got his chances last season - vision seemed to be a problem earlier in his career.They drafted Carter last season in Round 4 - and while its a new regime I don't see why they wouldn't want to see what they have in Brown and Carter using their picks elsewhere in what is going to be a "building" season anyway.Will they draft a RB though? It's possible of course.

You think Brown showed the Colts enough last season to make them feel ok with passing on, say Martin or Wilson or Miller (or any RB that might be there early 2nd or 3rd)? Basically, do you think he has shown enough?

 

[finito]

From what I'm reading Brown doesn't really fit the new offense as well as Carter would --- but no one knows if Carter is any good. I think they'll draft someone but not before the 4th/5th round; but there will be good RBs available then, so both Brown and Carter are a major risk I think.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'll post the disclaimer that I own Brown-Carter in two leagues - so of course I have some bias, but I can't see it happening.If they are truely rebuilding, RB is one of the last positions they should be looking to fill since they have short shelf lives and they have a former first round pick on the roster already.I traded for Brown in one league this offseason - because he finally looked like he was starting to put things together last season. He has tremendous quicks and runs with a low center of gravity. He started running alot more agressively, yet still under enough control to find the correct hole when he got his chances last season - vision seemed to be a problem earlier in his career.They drafted Carter last season in Round 4 - and while its a new regime I don't see why they wouldn't want to see what they have in Brown and Carter using their picks elsewhere in what is going to be a "building" season anyway.Will they draft a RB though? It's possible of course.

You think Brown showed the Colts enough last season to make them feel ok with passing on, say Martin or Wilson or Miller (or any RB that might be there early 2nd or 3rd)? Basically, do you think he has shown enough?

Well it comes down to more than just the simple equation of is Brown > Martin or Miller or Wilson. There's the opportunity cost of what prospect they pass up to take the RB prospect instead and other factors as well.My answer would be "yes" though (not that he's necessarily better than Martin - but he's shown enough for them to look elsewhere). Brown showed well imo under the worst possible cirumstances (really bad QB play and a poor o-line) when he was asked to carry the load in 2011. With all that said many teams draft BPA and if Martin (or another RB) is clearly the highest player on their board when its their turn to pick I wouldn't say it was a mistake for a RB to be their pick.

 

[az_prof]

I'll post the disclaimer that I own Brown-Carter in two leagues - so of course I have some bias, but I can't see it happening.If they are truely rebuilding, RB is one of the last positions they should be looking to fill since they have short shelf lives and they have a former first round pick on the roster already.I traded for Brown in one league this offseason - because he finally looked like he was starting to put things together last season. He has tremendous quicks and runs with a low center of gravity. He started running alot more agressively, yet still under enough control to find the correct hole when he got his chances last season - vision seemed to be a problem earlier in his career.They drafted Carter last season in Round 4 - and while its a new regime I don't see why they wouldn't want to see what they have in Brown and Carter using their picks elsewhere in what is going to be a "building" season anyway.Will they draft a RB though? It's possible of course.

You think Brown showed the Colts enough last season to make them feel ok with passing on, say Martin or Wilson or Miller (or any RB that might be there early 2nd or 3rd)? Basically, do you think he has shown enough?

I do. He looked really good. The problem with him early on was pass blocking, which he has mastered. That, and his running style was not well suited to the shotgun option runs that were the norm with Peyton. He runs well behind a FB and what I have read is that IND wants to beef up their offensive line to make it more physical, which I think will benefit Brown. He is an above average receiver also. I see him as the primary back and Carter as the short yardage and goal line back. They could pick up another guy in the fourth for depth, but I would be surprised if they took anyone before that round given all their defensive needs.

 

[finito]

The problem with him early on was pass blocking, which he has mastered.

Whoa, I dunno about "mastered." He's improved, but by no stretch would I say it's a major strength of his. In fact, I'd say at best he's average to below average at pass blocking (as opposed to awful when his career began).

 

[JohnnyU]

In my opinion when you're rebuilding RB should be the last piece to the puzzle, because that is the one position where players don't play as long. So when you're ready to contend you want your RB to be as young as possible.

 

[Touchdown There]

In my opinion when you're rebuilding RB should be the last piece to the puzzle, because that is the one position where players don't play as long. So when you're ready to contend you want your RB to be as young as possible.

You also want him to be slightly seasoned and entering his prime. That takes a year or two, so I think it makes sense to go RB at the top of round 2. There is something to be said about guys growing and learning together, so if I were the Colts I would focus on QB-RB-Oline in the draft. There will be no expectation for the Colts to win in 2012, so you get defenders the best you can through trades and free agents. Save money on the cap with young guys and give yourself some cash for free agents next year and an early draft pick.

 

[runner06]

In my opinion when you're rebuilding RB should be the last piece to the puzzle, because that is the one position where players don't play as long. So when you're ready to contend you want your RB to be as young as possible.

You also want him to be slightly seasoned and entering his prime. That takes a year or two, so I think it makes sense to go RB at the top of round 2. There is something to be said about guys growing and learning together, so if I were the Colts I would focus on QB-RB-Oline in the draft. There will be no expectation for the Colts to win in 2012, so you get defenders the best you can through trades and free agents. Save money on the cap with young guys and give yourself some cash for free agents next year and an early draft pick.

That is the case with every position though and RB arguably has the shortest learning curve of any position in the NFL. The Colts really should (and hopefully will) go BPA in round two given they have needs or aging veterans at just about every position.I predict they go defense with their 2nd round pick. Chuck Pagano is a defensive guy and wants to switch the Colts to a 3-4 defense so he's probably going to want to draft some defensive guys for his defensive philosophy. I could easily see the Colts taking somebody such as Chris Polk with the first pick in the third round and wouldn't be shocked if they took a RB in the 2nd round.

 

[JohnnyU]

In my opinion when you're rebuilding RB should be the last piece to the puzzle, because that is the one position where players don't play as long. So when you're ready to contend you want your RB to be as young as possible.

You also want him to be slightly seasoned and entering his prime. That takes a year or two, so I think it makes sense to go RB at the top of round 2. There is something to be said about guys growing and learning together, so if I were the Colts I would focus on QB-RB-Oline in the draft. There will be no expectation for the Colts to win in 2012, so you get defenders the best you can through trades and free agents. Save money on the cap with young guys and give yourself some cash for free agents next year and an early draft pick.

RB is the easiest position to play early and the Colts won't be ready to compete for at least 3 years. Taking a RB in year one of rebuilding is foolish. Play with what you have at RB, draft BPA for the next 2 drafts, then draft a RB in 2014.

 

[Casting Couch]

In my opinion when you're rebuilding RB should be the last piece to the puzzle, because that is the one position where players don't play as long. So when you're ready to contend you want your RB to be as young as possible.

You also want him to be slightly seasoned and entering his prime. That takes a year or two, so I think it makes sense to go RB at the top of round 2. There is something to be said about guys growing and learning together, so if I were the Colts I would focus on QB-RB-Oline in the draft. There will be no expectation for the Colts to win in 2012, so you get defenders the best you can through trades and free agents. Save money on the cap with young guys and give yourself some cash for free agents next year and an early draft pick.

RB is the easiest position to play early and the Colts won't be ready to compete for at least 3 years. Taking a RB in year one of rebuilding is foolish. Play with what you have at RB, draft BPA for the next 2 drafts, then draft a RB in 2014.

I agree with this assessment. I would take a RB in the mid-rounds if one of them slipped on the board,but RB is way down on the needs list for Indianapolis at this time, imo.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Do Fullbacks count?

 

[MAC_32]

The Colts aren't playing for 2012, they're playing for 2013 and beyond. I think Martin or Miller would help them this year, but isn't in the best interests of the franchise long term. Maybe they take a mid rounder like LMJ, Turbin, Pierce, etc. but not before then. RB will be addressed in the future though, their current ones just aren't that good.

 

[N Zone]

It might be important to run the ball since they have a rookie QB. Yes, the Colts need to get a quality Running Back.

 

[Abspara]

"Donald's a real bright guy and he's got some home-run capabilities in him," Pagano said. "He's strong, he's quick to hit the hole, he puts his foot in the ground, he's decisive and all those types of things." When asked if Brown could be a 30- to 40-snap kind of player, Pagano said, "Yeah I do, and I think he'd tell you the same thing. He's more than capable of doing that, absolutely."

http://www.coltclique.com/topic/25244-chuck-pagano-donald-brown-could-be-30-40-snap-kind-of-player/

I think the Colts will be just fine with Donald Brown.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

"Donald's a real bright guy and he's got some home-run capabilities in him," Pagano said. "He's strong, he's quick to hit the hole, he puts his foot in the ground, he's decisive and all those types of things." When asked if Brown could be a 30- to 40-snap kind of player, Pagano said, "Yeah I do, and I think he'd tell you the same thing. He's more than capable of doing that, absolutely."

http://www.coltclique.com/topic/25244-chuck-pagano-donald-brown-could-be-30-40-snap-kind-of-player/

I think the Colts will be just fine with Donald Brown.

As much as I would like to beleive this, we need to keep in mind that coachspeak in April means very little.

 

[Shutout]

"Donald's a real bright guy and he's got some home-run capabilities in him," Pagano said. "He's strong, he's quick to hit the hole, he puts his foot in the ground, he's decisive and all those types of things." When asked if Brown could be a 30- to 40-snap kind of player, Pagano said, "Yeah I do, and I think he'd tell you the same thing. He's more than capable of doing that, absolutely."

http://www.coltclique.com/topic/25244-chuck-pagano-donald-brown-could-be-30-40-snap-kind-of-player/

I think the Colts will be just fine with Donald Brown.

As much as I would like to beleive this, we need to keep in mind that coachspeak in April means very little.

Yeah, I once heard Adam Shefter say that March and April are "National Liar's months" for coaches and Gms and owners. You must take everything with a grain of salt.