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Should the Dolphins consider signing D-Will? (1 Viewer)

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Carolina Panthers running back DeAngelo Williams will be one of the hottest free agents from the 2011 class at his position. One team that would love to acquire the former Memphis standout–the Miami Dolphins.

According to Omar Kelly of SunSentinel.com, Williams is on the top of the Dolphins “must get” list for what the team needs to improve in 2011. Here’s what Kelly posted on his Twitter account last week:

“One free agent RB has surfaced to the top of the must get list for Phins: Carolina’s DeAngelo Williams. He’s mold of what Phins want in 2011.”

2010 was a season to forget for Williams as a foot injury prevented him from playing in just six games. However, Williams has proven to be one of the most effective running backs in the NFL when healthy and any team would be lucky to have him on their roster–which is why Miami is anxious to sign him.

From 2008-09, Williams rushed for 2,632 yards with 25 touchdowns while sharing carries with Jonathan Stewart. With questions surrounding Ronnie Brown (just 734 rushing yards with five touchdowns in 16 games last season) and his effectiveness as a running back, Williams may be an upgrade for the Dolphins. Not to mention Williams is already used to sharing carries with Stewart–so playing alongside Ricky Williams wouldn’t be an issue if this were to happen.

 
too bad for him and any other free agents, they are locked in on their teams until a new CBA can be signed, sealed and delivered... which could take awhile at the rate the NFL owners and players are moving...

 
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Miami is desperate to upgrade their running game and I would assume DWill will be instant offense. Ronnie and Ricky were horrible last season and had no breakaway ability. The OL was not that bad and the two of them are as responsible for the mess as was Henne. A strong running game and perhaps Henne can work off play action again like in 2009.

 
:confused: Miami is desperate to upgrade their running game and I would assume DWill will be instant offense. Ronnie and Ricky were horrible last season and had no breakaway ability. The OL was not that bad and the two of them are as responsible for the mess as was Henne. A strong running game and perhaps Henne can work off play action again like in 2009.
Henne would suck if he had Barry Sanders at RB, with Jerry Rice and Randy Moss at WR.The OLine isnt bad though, so DWilliams could have a couple of nice seasons in Miami.
 
Not sure I understand signing another veteran RB with lots of mileage to fix a running game that struggled with...two veteran RBs with lots of mileage.

 
Not sure I understand signing another veteran RB with lots of mileage to fix a running game that struggled with...two veteran RBs with lots of mileage.
I hear what you are saying, but is Carolina Williams really in the same set as the others?DeAngelo: 840 career carries and 27 years old.Ronnie Brown: 1140 carries and 29 years old.Ricky: 2325 carries and 33 years old.I also think Miami is a long way from being able to even think about signing him at this point without a new CBA.
 
No offense to Miami fans, but I am assuming there will be more attractive options for DWill.
I wouldn't be so sure of that. Very few teams these days put much of a premium on veteran RBs, regardless of their pedigree. Given Williams injuries and struggles at times, I don't think many teams will feel they're "one veteran RB away" from contention and, thus, won't break the bank for the guy.
 
No offense to Miami fans, but I am assuming there will be more attractive options for DWill.
I wouldn't be so sure of that. Very few teams these days put much of a premium on veteran RBs, regardless of their pedigree. Given Williams injuries and struggles at times, I don't think many teams will feel they're "one veteran RB away" from contention and, thus, won't break the bank for the guy.
I wouldn't be surprised if he chooses someone who he perceives as more of a contender, even if he has to take a little less in the pocket.
 
Seems misleading. Are the Dolphins actually interested or is this just a beat writer stating they "should be" interested? It's no secret that Miami is a runnign team and their RB's are old and have struggled.

With the state of the CBA, I doubt any teams are thinking all that much about FA's at the moment (except for maybe Asomugha.)

 
Not sure I understand signing another veteran RB with lots of mileage to fix a running game that struggled with...two veteran RBs with lots of mileage.
I hear what you are saying, but is Carolina Williams really in the same set as the others?DeAngelo: 840 career carries and 27 years old.Ronnie Brown: 1140 carries and 29 years old.Ricky: 2325 carries and 33 years old.I also think Miami is a long way from being able to even think about signing him at this point without a new CBA.
969 college carries on top of that.
 
People were asking about Omar Kelly and all I can tell you from living down here is almost all of the Miami beat writers for the Phins pretty much kiss their tush the majority of the time. You don't see a lot of hard hitting journalism. They will be the Johhny come lately after the season is over...where maybe one of them says "this is unacceptable to the fan base"...where were you 3 months ago? In season they do nothing to jeopardize their positions in the locker rooms after the games.

If you want any real journalism you need to listen ot the sports dial where most of those guys are not ball and chained to one of the newspapers down here.

I think DWill has been mentioned for a long time down here and he would be a huge improvement over what we had this year. Williams wasn't hurt that bad last year, Fox decided to shut him down. I think he would flourish in Miami as well as other places.

 
Not sure I understand signing another veteran RB with lots of mileage to fix a running game that struggled with...two veteran RBs with lots of mileage.
I hear what you are saying, but is Carolina Williams really in the same set as the others?DeAngelo: 840 career carries and 27 years old.Ronnie Brown: 1140 carries and 29 years old.Ricky: 2325 carries and 33 years old.I also think Miami is a long way from being able to even think about signing him at this point without a new CBA.
969 college carries on top of that.
IIRC, Ricky had 1000+ carries at Texas. Brown only had 500 and change at Auburn.
 
I'm really interested to see where DeAngelo's ADP in FF drafts ends up landing this year. He could be a great pick to build your teams around in 2011 - Contingent on where he plays and what his ADP are of course.

 
IMO, DeAngelo will give the Panthers a home town discount.

He likes Charlotte and wants to stay here. "The ball is in the Panthers court", he says.

 
IMO, DeAngelo will give the Panthers a home town discount.He likes Charlotte and wants to stay here. "The ball is in the Panthers court", he says.
DeAngelo knows how to say the right things. He is gone as soon as the light goes green. He knows this team sucks. His RB coach is now gone.
 
We're still to far out to get a good read I think but looks like the panthers are planning to slap a tag on him... At least that's what I'm hearing.. Could be smoke but who knows at this point...

 
We're still to far out to get a good read I think but looks like the panthers are planning to slap a tag on him... At least that's what I'm hearing.. Could be smoke but who knows at this point...
I'm sure they will tag him so they can get at least a draft pick for him. The smart move was trading him before the deadline.
 
They might tag him but they (the Panthers) got a chance to see the backup play alot last year and one would think they were very impressed.

I thought Goodson and Sutton both played very good.

I don't see how the Panthers can tie up this kind of money on their running game when they have so many other holes and the #1 overall pick which is

going to cost big bucks.

 
They might tag him but they (the Panthers) got a chance to see the backup play alot last year and one would think they were very impressed.I thought Goodson and Sutton both played very good.I don't see how the Panthers can tie up this kind of money on their running game when they have so many other holes and the #1 overall pick which isgoing to cost big bucks.
On the "big bucks" front for rookies, I can't remember the exact numbers, but from what I remember being discussed on the max contract for rookies was going to be worth like 40-50% of the contracts from prior seasons. They were going to try to limit the years to like three seasons with a lot less in bonus money and annual salary.
 
They might tag him but they (the Panthers) got a chance to see the backup play alot last year and one would think they were very impressed.

I thought Goodson and Sutton both played very good.

I don't see how the Panthers can tie up this kind of money on their running game when they have so many other holes and the #1 overall pick which is

going to cost big bucks.
Totally agree with the bolded... Was very impressed...And I think the Tag would be one to insure they get something in return for D-Will via trade... But it could backfire... That's why I think it's just posturing atm...

 
Bad title. Dolphins didn't express any interest.
Sorry, just took info from a writer in their town that knows people in the franchise. Should have thought about asking you for your opinion before posting.I'll try better next time :lmao:
Look dude, I'm not some official good title/bad title arbiter. I just came here thinking I was seeing some foolish quote from Ross again (he likes to do that) and instead I just saw a shopping list from a sports writer. Maybe I was just disappointed that I didn't see some stupid quote from Ross again. :lmao: These pieces are pretty typical, and are they from sports writers heads when they jerked around too long and don't have a real article to publish. It's pretty obvious, since there isn't a quote or even allusion to someone in the org suggesting they are looking to sign Williams (at least from what you quoted and I couldn't find the original article).Hate to argue about this. Good call in changing the title. It's still a worthwhile topic. Williams has about the same mileage as Ronnie Brown did at the beginning of last season - but not the wear since RB's body just can't stay healthy. I think it would be a good call for the Dolphins to try to sign Williams. He isn't a super star running back and can't be expecting a bunch of money considering he's a few years removed from his best season. They don't have a 2nd, so they can use a FA signing to fill out their running back spots and spend the draft picks on more important positions. If Ricky Williams comes back, they can have DW, RW, and Cobbs/Hilliard backing them up. That's a ton better than RB. RB is broken and cannot be depended upon.I wouldn't expect studly numbers from Williams though. The Dolphins have 2 good OTs, but from what I've seen their interior OL still needs help. Plus teams are going to stack the LOS considering the cats out of the bag regarding Henne sucking as a QB.
 
I like DWill.

It would be a good signing and I expect them to draft a young RB prospect as well. Ricky and Ronnie are toast here.

 
Bad title. Dolphins didn't express any interest.
Sorry, just took info from a writer in their town that knows people in the franchise. Should have thought about asking you for your opinion before posting.

I'll try better next time

:sarcasm:
Look dude, I'm not some official good title/bad title arbiter. I just came here thinking I was seeing some foolish quote from Ross again (he likes to do that) and instead I just saw a shopping list from a sports writer. Maybe I was just disappointed that I didn't see some stupid quote from Ross again. :lol: These pieces are pretty typical, and are they from sports writers heads when they jerked around too long and don't have a real article to publish. It's pretty obvious, since there isn't a quote or even allusion to someone in the org suggesting they are looking to sign Williams (at least from what you quoted and I couldn't find the original article).Hate to argue about this. Good call in changing the title. It's still a worthwhile topic. Williams has about the same mileage as Ronnie Brown did at the beginning of last season - but not the wear since RB's body just can't stay healthy. I think it would be a good call for the Dolphins to try to sign Williams. He isn't a super star running back and can't be expecting a bunch of money considering he's a few years removed from his best season. They don't have a 2nd, so they can use a FA signing to fill out their running back spots and spend the draft picks on more important positions. If Ricky Williams comes back, they can have DW, RW, and Cobbs/Hilliard backing them up. That's a ton better than RB. RB is broken and cannot be depended upon.

I wouldn't expect studly numbers from Williams though. The Dolphins have 2 good OTs, but from what I've seen their interior OL still needs help. Plus teams are going to stack the LOS considering the cats out of the bag regarding Henne sucking as a QB.
I never changed the title :lmao:

 
I'd love to see DWill go to NO. With Thomas and Bush as free agents, he could be a RB like they used to have in Deuce

 
Blackjacks said:
I never changed the title :excited:
I did, to make it more relevant to the topic at hand. :banned:
Well thanks for changing the title to appease everyone but I was just copying and pasting an article done by s Miami reporter.No big deal
Right, and that article was quickly pointed out to be a opinion piece by a beat writer versus a statement of fact (which is how the original title sounded). So rather than let the thread be clogged with accusations of it being a misleading title, better to alter the title to actually get at the discussion at hand. :D
 
I never changed the title :goodposting:
I did, to make it more relevant to the topic at hand. :tinfoilhat:
Well thanks for changing the title to appease everyone but I was just copying and pasting an article done by s Miami reporter.No big deal
Right, and that article was quickly pointed out to be a opinion piece by a beat writer versus a statement of fact (which is how the original title sounded). So rather than let the thread be clogged with accusations of it being a misleading title, better to alter the title to actually get at the discussion at hand. :stirspot:
Like I said, no big deal. Thanks
 

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