Sidney Rice to the Seahawks (1 Viewer)

[NajehHejan]

T-Jax is horrible. The Seahawks will start the year 1-4 and give way to Whitehurst who will go 1-4 himself. There will be a QB carousel the rest of the way and all Seahawks players will be a fantasy landmine all year.

Downgrade Rice.

Downgrade BMW.

Downgrade Lynch (too many 3 and outs, low TD opportunities, yards will be tough to come by)

Slight upgrade to Forsett. He'll catch a few more balls in the second half of games when the team is down due to stalled drives in the first half. He'll still be a desperation/bye week filler in PPR leagues.

 

[Sweet Love]

You Seattle fans are a very touchy bunch...

 

[The Dynasty]

 

[Peeps Inc.]

Keep on hating and keep on trying to derail this celebration you scrubs.

What are we celebrating, The demise of sidney rice's fantasy value?

 

[ImTheScientist]

You Seattle fans are a very touchy bunch...

Passion =\= touchyLeg swept!

 

[NBusiness]

As a Vikings fans we should be very happy we didn't give him that kind of money. Bring on MSW and d mason

 

[jamil]

Why is everyone so quick to dismiss Seattle this year.

Here was Hasselbeck's regualar season stat line. I will be very surprised if Jackson is this bad:

59.9% Comp % 12 TDs 17 INTsThey are better than they were a year ago when they won the division.

Seriously? Have you ever seen the guy play?

Seriously have u?

yes, he is terrible.

 

[ImTheScientist]

As a Vikings fans we should be very happy we didn't give him that kind of money. Bring on MSW and d mason

Have fun with that.

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

As a Vikings fans we should be very happy we didn't give him that kind of money. Bring on MSW and d mason

Knock yourself out with them.

 

[cacksman]

As a Vikings fans we should be very happy we didn't give him that kind of money. Bring on MSW and d mason

That kind of money? Rice got less than Holmes did earlier today and is the better, younger player.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

espn radio reported 41 milion... 5 yrs

 

[Johnny Rock]

When SEA signed Burleson to a ridiculous contract in retaliation for us stealing Hutchinson, I thought it was a joke and that they looked foolish. But this sucks. He's a good player but it's a lot of money for inconsistent production.

I thought it was bush league that Rice waited so long to have his surgery last year but he always seemed like a good teammate so I give him the benefit of the doubt.

I agree with the guy who said this is about money for Rice. Why else does he hitch his wagon to TJack and the others? I don't blame him, but I'm surprised he isn't considering his prospects for success. Perhaps Caroll promised him they'll upgrade the QB too?

Vikings need to make a decent move now.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

I could argue this and present scenarios, but I'm gonna stop for the sake of the string. Doesn't mean I can't out debate you on this particular point, but as I said, I'm done hijacking the string.

You got owned in this argument.Remember when one of the best RB's in the league Marshall Faulk got traded for a 2nd and a 5th...

I just stopped arguing out of respect.

 

[Daywalker]

Nice time to snag Rice cheaply? That would be my thinking if I played dynasty.

 

[The Dynasty]

OH and this interesting tweet from Carroll:Getting better this weekend! RT @AstinGreer: @PeteCarroll How's the QB situation looking? I know you've got something up your sleeveThis weekend you say?

Maybe he just meant that TJax can't sign until this weekend so that's what he was referring to.

 

[Hooper31]

When SEA signed Burleson to a ridiculous contract in retaliation for us stealing Hutchinson, I thought it was a joke and that they looked foolish.

Are you under the impression that Burleson was actually paid a ridiculous amount of money?

 

[Donnybrook]

As a Vikings fans we should be very happy we didn't give him that kind of money. Bring on MSW and d mason

That kind of money? Rice got less than Holmes did earlier today and is the better, younger player.

Really? Santanio has a lot of baggage but that does not make him less talented than Rice. In fact considering their careers thus far, it is humorious that you think Holmes should be paid less than Rice.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

It really stinks losing Rice, as he was so fun to watch. One thing that is a problem for him is he doesn't get much separation, so the QB has to trust him to come down with the ball when he gets it thrown to him. That is why he had so much success with Favre - Favre would throw to him when he was covered. Other QBs did not do that...so in order for him to be successful, the QBs will have to take their chances.

 

[the turnip]

Sold him last week along with 1.5 & 1.16 for Pierre Thomas and Mark Ingram.

I wasn't crazy about the trade then, but I'm liking it a lot more this morning.

Still sorry to see you go Sidney.

 

[Baron Samedi]

As a Vikings fans we should be very happy we didn't give him that kind of money. Bring on MSW and d mason

That kind of money? Rice got less than Holmes did earlier today and is the better, younger player.

This is where fantasy football and reality collide. What has Rice done in his young career thus far to warrant more loot than a superbowl MVP who basically won every dam game down the stretch last year for his team and is only 2 years older than Rice? NFL GMs don't play fantasy my friend.

 

[ImTheScientist]

As a Vikings fans we should be very happy we didn't give him that kind of money. Bring on MSW and d mason

That kind of money? Rice got less than Holmes did earlier today and is the better, younger player.

Couldn't agree more. Im baffled w/ the Holmes contract.

 

[Banger]

As a Vikings fans we should be very happy we didn't give him that kind of money. Bring on MSW and d mason

That kind of money? Rice got less than Holmes did earlier today and is the better, younger player.

Couldn't agree more. Im baffled w/ the Holmes contract.

it's a very smart contract...he counts around $2.5 mill towards the cap this year which will allow them to get Asomuagha. Holmes is a knucklehead but he's also a good very good wr.

 

[Funkley]

Rice better than Holmes? Not so much.

 

[cacksman]

As a Vikings fans we should be very happy we didn't give him that kind of money. Bring on MSW and d mason

That kind of money? Rice got less than Holmes did earlier today and is the better, younger player.

Really? Santanio has a lot of baggage but that does not make him less talented than Rice. In fact considering their careers thus far, it is humorious that you think Holmes should be paid less than Rice.

These days for free agency you pay for talent and potential over past achievements. The vast majority of free agent rankings had rice as the top wr out there. Considering sea got rice for about 20% less than homes as well, sea got him ay a very reasonable price.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

As a Vikings fans we should be very happy we didn't give him that kind of money. Bring on MSW and d mason

That kind of money? Rice got less than Holmes did earlier today and is the better, younger player.

This is where fantasy football and reality collide. What has Rice done in his young career thus far to warrant more loot than a superbowl MVP who basically won every dam game down the stretch last year for his team and is only 2 years older than Rice? NFL GMs don't play fantasy my friend.

Outside of the regular season of 83 receptions for 1300 8 for Sidney Rice. He had 10 receptions for 184 yards and 4 TDs in the 2 playoff games vs Dallas and NO. Holmes has never had a season of 1300. Congrats he had an amazing catch to go along with 9 for 131 and 1 TD in the super bowl to get MVP. Deion Branch has one as well. Holmes is overrated. His YPC has been going down and has had one great year in the NFL. That isn't FF related, that's football related. He is a distraction off the field, that's troublesome for a locker room as well.

 

[Baron Samedi]

As a Vikings fans we should be very happy we didn't give him that kind of money. Bring on MSW and d mason

That kind of money? Rice got less than Holmes did earlier today and is the better, younger player.

This is where fantasy football and reality collide. What has Rice done in his young career thus far to warrant more loot than a superbowl MVP who basically won every dam game down the stretch last year for his team and is only 2 years older than Rice? NFL GMs don't play fantasy my friend.

Outside of the regular season of 83 receptions for 1300 8 for Sidney Rice. He had 10 receptions for 184 yards and 4 TDs in the 2 playoff games vs Dallas and NO. Holmes has never had a season of 1300. Congrats he had an amazing catch to go along with 9 for 131 and 1 TD in the super bowl to get MVP. Deion Branch has one as well. Holmes is overrated. His YPC has been going down and has had one great year in the NFL. That isn't FF related, that's football related. He is a distraction off the field, that's troublesome for a locker room as well.

Your right, the 1248 yards he had in 2009 is no where near 1300. I guess Tanenbaum is a fool and you should be an NFL GM. Maybe you should contact Rice and tell him to fire his agent because his contract is less than Holmes.

 

[CentralPA]

I'd downgrade Rice just a tad. Maybe down a round. I think he could be an elite reciever but until he proves he isn't going to be hurt and he has another good season then he shouldn't be ranked any higher then what his current ADP is.

and Seattle fans, i'm sorry, but Tavares Jackson is not a very good QB. He is very inaccurate and seems to have the DITHL look about him when in the pocket. He has done better over the years but I still think Hass was and probably will be a better QB this year then Tavares. Best of luck though, I like the Seahawks and what they've done so far with the offense (minus the QB).

 

[cacksman]

As a Vikings fans we should be very happy we didn't give him that kind of money. Bring on MSW and d mason

That kind of money? Rice got less than Holmes did earlier today and is the better, younger player.

This is where fantasy football and reality collide. What has Rice done in his young career thus far to warrant more loot than a superbowl MVP who basically won every dam game down the stretch last year for his team and is only 2 years older than Rice? NFL GMs don't play fantasy my friend.

Outside of the regular season of 83 receptions for 1300 8 for Sidney Rice. He had 10 receptions for 184 yards and 4 TDs in the 2 playoff games vs Dallas and NO. Holmes has never had a season of 1300. Congrats he had an amazing catch to go along with 9 for 131 and 1 TD in the super bowl to get MVP. Deion Branch has one as well. Holmes is overrated. His YPC has been going down and has had one great year in the NFL. That isn't FF related, that's football related. He is a distraction off the field, that's troublesome for a locker room as well.

Your right, the 1248 yards he had in 2009 is no where near 1300. I guess Tanenbaum is a fool and you should be an NFL GM. Maybe you should contact Rice and tell him to fire his agent because his contract is less than Holmes.

After seeing holmes's contract, I was expecting rice to get MORE money, definitely not close to 20% LESS.

 

[Baron Samedi]

As a Vikings fans we should be very happy we didn't give him that kind of money. Bring on MSW and d mason

That kind of money? Rice got less than Holmes did earlier today and is the better, younger player.

This is where fantasy football and reality collide. What has Rice done in his young career thus far to warrant more loot than a superbowl MVP who basically won every dam game down the stretch last year for his team and is only 2 years older than Rice? NFL GMs don't play fantasy my friend.

Outside of the regular season of 83 receptions for 1300 8 for Sidney Rice. He had 10 receptions for 184 yards and 4 TDs in the 2 playoff games vs Dallas and NO. Holmes has never had a season of 1300. Congrats he had an amazing catch to go along with 9 for 131 and 1 TD in the super bowl to get MVP. Deion Branch has one as well. Holmes is overrated. His YPC has been going down and has had one great year in the NFL. That isn't FF related, that's football related. He is a distraction off the field, that's troublesome for a locker room as well.

Your right, the 1248 yards he had in 2009 is no where near 1300. I guess Tanenbaum is a fool and you should be an NFL GM. Maybe you should contact Rice and tell him to fire his agent because his contract is less than Holmes.

After seeing holmes's contract, I was expecting rice to get MORE money, definitely not close to 20% LESS.

Maybe Rice is considered a one year wonder with major injury concerns. We shall see.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I am that some Seahawks are happy about getting Tarvaris Jackson, and at the expense of Hasselbeck, who was inconsistent last year, but still tore it up against the number 4 defense in the first round of the playoffs in leading them to a big upset. If Jackson EVER has a playoff performance even close to that good, I will be shocked.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I am that some Seahawks are happy about getting Tarvaris Jackson, and at the expense of Hasselbeck, who was inconsistent last year, but still tore it up against the number 4 defense in the first round of the playoffs in leading them to a big upset. If Jackson EVER has a playoff performance even close to that good, I will be shocked.

If Hasselbeck ever has another game like that again, playoffs or not I would be shocked. I think he averaged about 10 games played per season for the last 3 years. People who actually saw more than that playoff game know why he isn't back.ETA: http://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/HassMa00-2.php

Looks like its 11 games per season.....he has always lacked arm strength....as he has aged its kind of got worse and he is fragile. Good luck Titans. Having watched every game of his NFL career I can say Im SO HAPPY he is finally gone.

 

[cacksman]

I am that some Seahawks are happy about getting Tarvaris Jackson, and at the expense of Hasselbeck, who was inconsistent last year, but still tore it up against the number 4 defense in the first round of the playoffs in leading them to a big upset. If Jackson EVER has a playoff performance even close to that good, I will be shocked.

If Hasselbeck ever has another game like that again, playoffs or not I would be shocked. I think he averaged about 10 games played per season for the last 3 years. People who actually saw more than that playoff game know why he isn't back.

I'm not saying hass wouldn't most likely be better for this year. But carroll is obviously looking to go for a youth movement and paying him 21 million over 3 years just wasnt in the cards. You never know if hass would be better though, he would have had to learn yet another system, while jackson can step into the one he already knows.

 

[Incogneto]

I am that some Seahawks are happy about getting Tarvaris Jackson, and at the expense of Hasselbeck, who was inconsistent last year, but still tore it up against the number 4 defense in the first round of the playoffs in leading them to a big upset. If Jackson EVER has a playoff performance even close to that good, I will be shocked.

If Hasselbeck ever has another game like that again, playoffs or not I would be shocked. I think he averaged about 10 games played per season for the last 3 years. People who actually saw more than that playoff game know why he isn't back.ETA: http://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/HassMa00-2.php

Looks like its 11 games per season.....he has always lacked arm strength....as he has aged its kind of got worse and he is fragile. Good luck Titans. Having watched every game of his NFL career I can say Im SO HAPPY he is finally gone.

He's definitely not the same QB he was in '04-'05, but the guy was A) The best QB to ever play for the team, and B) An amazing ambassador for the team and city. It's easy to say that he is one of my favorite players to ever play for the 'Hawks...and that might be a little because of his great personality. For me, it's sad to see him go, but also agree that its time for this team to move on without him.

I wish him the best in Tennessee.

 

[Couch Potato]

As a Vikings fan, I'm really disappointed in this (I know, it probably won't be the only time this season ). Now all they have is Harvin, and.... NOBODY!

They'll add Edwards or Floyd or someone. My guess is MSW or James Jones.

Looks like it'll be Jones.Rotoworld:

James Jones - WR - Packers

Jason Wilde of ESPN 540 Milwaukee confirms the Vikings are "close" to signing free agent WR James Jones.

Jones' Wikipedia page already has the Vikings listed as his team, but the sides aren't there quite yet. Expect a deal to be finalized shortly.

 

[hook014]

Between Jones proving he can drop many well delivered passes from Rodgers and McNabb throwing at his feet I dont know what to think. He could easily enter Chris Chambers territory. yikes.

But long term I like it. Could be a great buy low next off season in dynasty.

For NFL purposes, the Vikes take a decent guy off the Pack roster and make him their own. That's usually worth a little extra.

 

[Wide Right]

Between Jones proving he can drop many well delivered passes from Rodgers and McNabb throwing at his feet I dont know what to think. He could easily enter Chris Chambers territory. yikes.But long term I like it. Could be a great buy low next off season in dynasty.For NFL purposes, the Vikes take a decent guy off the Pack roster and make him their own. That's usually worth a little extra.

You figure the Vikes have to so something to get a WR. Going in with Berriman as your number #1 receiver is a recipe for disaster. They need to leave Percy Harvin in the slot and then a #1 on the outside. I would like them to have enough WR depth that Berriman doesn't even make the team. Jones knows how to get open, hopefully he can learn to catch

 

[Hooper31]

He's definitely not the same QB he was in '04-'05, but the guy was A) The best QB to ever play for the team, and B) An amazing ambassador for the team and city.

Mudbone on line one. Wants to have some words with you. Something about 9,000 more passing yards and 90 more passing TDs. IMO its difficult to say either was really the "best" to ever play for Seattle because they compare so closely. They only differ by 0.1% when you compare their passer ratings over their tenures as Seattle QBs. I'm likely biased as are you. I still think the mid-80s teams were better than the Holmgren teams in many respects.

 

[Incogneto]

Great article on what the Seahawks are building:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/jerrybrewer/2015749018_brewer28.html

 

[massraider]

I am not a fan of Rice going to Seattle, but I think there were worse places. I would have preferred STL, really, but any other team that was really in the Rice derby wasn't a spectacular option.

Seattle is in that division, where points should come pretty easy, and almost any team in this league can turn it around in a year. it happens every single season, and we all still act shocked when it happens. I kind of like a lot of players on Seattle's roster now, if Whitehurst or TJack can be even remotely competent, they could easily win that division.

Both QBs get a lot of static, but really, they are about as "proven" as Kolb. There are really good QBs that looked worse than both when they were young.

 

[Teef]

Houuuuuush!

 

[cacksman]

Houuuuuush!

So glad we didn't sign someone to pull another housh debacle. Giving that much money for a 32 year old possession wr was maddening. Rice thank god is 8 years younger and much more talented.

 

[gianmarco]

I think some WR's are QB-proof and I think Sidney is one of those guys.

What I mean is, certain WR's can do well even with a bad QB at the helm. Look at Larry Fitzgerald last year in Arizona. While he didn't put up the elite numbers he did with Warner, they were still very, very good with absolute crap. I know Fitz is arguably the best WR in the game now but Sidney is the same kind of WR. They rely on their hands, catch radius, and athletic ability moreso than other guys who rely more on speed, route running, and timing. This is why AJ also could do well in Houston prior to Schaub or Calvin could do well with the crap in Detroit at times. A guy like Steve Smith, on the other hand, is a different type of WR.

As long as the coaching staff teaches whoever the QB is to make sure the ball goes to Sidney, and I would hope they will with the $ they spent, then I think he'll be just fine, at worst, with much higher upside if/when they land a real QB.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

That kind of money? Rice got less than Holmes did earlier today and is the better, younger player.

This is where fantasy football and reality collide. What has Rice done in his young career thus far to warrant more loot than a superbowl MVP who basically won every dam game down the stretch last year for his team and is only 2 years older than Rice? NFL GMs don't play fantasy my friend.

Outside of the regular season of 83 receptions for 1300 8 for Sidney Rice. He had 10 receptions for 184 yards and 4 TDs in the 2 playoff games vs Dallas and NO. Holmes has never had a season of 1300. Congrats he had an amazing catch to go along with 9 for 131 and 1 TD in the super bowl to get MVP. Deion Branch has one as well. Holmes is overrated. His YPC has been going down and has had one great year in the NFL. That isn't FF related, that's football related. He is a distraction off the field, that's troublesome for a locker room as well.

Your right, the 1248 yards he had in 2009 is no where near 1300. I guess Tanenbaum is a fool and you should be an NFL GM. Maybe you should contact Rice and tell him to fire his agent because his contract is less than Holmes.

Is this what you do when you lose a debate?1248 isn't 1300. 1248 is also Holmes' highest total in his 5 year playing career.

In fact, Holmes hasn't topped 1,000 yards in any other season.

Rice has caught 1 less(4) touchdown passes in postseason play than Holmes(5). However Holmes has played in 3X as many games(6) than Rice (2).

I previously have stated nothing about a "contract" either, but apparently you would like to pick a fight.

So WHAT has Holmes done to deserve such a contract(you stated the same regarding Rice previously)? Also, what has Holmes done that Rice hasn't?

 

[Baron Samedi]

That kind of money? Rice got less than Holmes did earlier today and is the better, younger player.

This is where fantasy football and reality collide. What has Rice done in his young career thus far to warrant more loot than a superbowl MVP who basically won every dam game down the stretch last year for his team and is only 2 years older than Rice? NFL GMs don't play fantasy my friend.

Outside of the regular season of 83 receptions for 1300 8 for Sidney Rice. He had 10 receptions for 184 yards and 4 TDs in the 2 playoff games vs Dallas and NO. Holmes has never had a season of 1300. Congrats he had an amazing catch to go along with 9 for 131 and 1 TD in the super bowl to get MVP. Deion Branch has one as well. Holmes is overrated. His YPC has been going down and has had one great year in the NFL. That isn't FF related, that's football related. He is a distraction off the field, that's troublesome for a locker room as well.

Your right, the 1248 yards he had in 2009 is no where near 1300. I guess Tanenbaum is a fool and you should be an NFL GM. Maybe you should contact Rice and tell him to fire his agent because his contract is less than Holmes.

Is this what you do when you lose a debate?1248 isn't 1300. 1248 is also Holmes' highest total in his 5 year playing career.

In fact, Holmes hasn't topped 1,000 yards in any other season.

Rice has caught 1 less(4) touchdown passes in postseason play than Holmes(5). However Holmes has played in 3X as many games(6) than Rice (2).

I previously have stated nothing about a "contract" either, but apparently you would like to pick a fight.

So WHAT has Holmes done to deserve such a contract(you stated the same regarding Rice previously)? Also, what has Holmes done that Rice hasn't?

Did you actually read the original post? He was comparing their contracts and couldn't believe that Rice didn't get more loot then Holmes because he thought Rice was better & younger. If you read my reply I told you why Holmes got more loot, it based on last years dominance down the stretch & his past pedigree (I.E.SUPERBOWL MVP). No where did I say Rice didn't deserve his contract. Stop being so defensive and try reading before getting so upset.

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

Great article on what the Seahawks are building:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/jerrybrewer/2015749018_brewer28.html

"Neither Jackson nor Charlie Whitehurst appears good enough to lead a team deep into the playoffs, but rebuilding is a process. Not everything can be accomplished in one offseason."Seems like an admission that this season is basically lost already.

 

[cacksman]

Great article on what the Seahawks are building:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/jerrybrewer/2015749018_brewer28.html

"Neither Jackson nor Charlie Whitehurst appears good enough to lead a team deep into the playoffs, but rebuilding is a process. Not everything can be accomplished in one offseason."Seems like an admission that this season is basically lost already.

when carroll and not some beat writer says it, let me know.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Great article on what the Seahawks are building:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/jerrybrewer/2015749018_brewer28.html

"Neither Jackson nor Charlie Whitehurst appears good enough to lead a team deep into the playoffs, but rebuilding is a process. Not everything can be accomplished in one offseason."Seems like an admission that this season is basically lost already.

when carroll and not some beat writer says it, let me know.

Just jealous & bitter haterz.

 

[Hooper31]

Great article on what the Seahawks are building:

http://seattletimes....8_brewer28.html

"Neither Jackson nor Charlie Whitehurst appears good enough to lead a team deep into the playoffs, but rebuilding is a process. Not everything can be accomplished in one offseason."Seems like an admission that this season is basically lost already.

If you're not first, you're last?

 

[DocHolliday]

I have never been a fan of Holmes but he does have more positive history on his side than Rice. From my untrained eye, Rice seems like the better WR.

The only thing that scares me about Rice in Seattle is the serious problem at QB. Does Rice get a downgrade compared to last year's rating? Yes. How much? That depends on who settles in as the Seahawk QB come September.

 

[The Dynasty]

Great article on what the Seahawks are building:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/jerrybrewer/2015749018_brewer28.html

"Neither Jackson nor Charlie Whitehurst appears good enough to lead a team deep into the playoffs, but rebuilding is a process. Not everything can be accomplished in one offseason."Seems like an admission that this season is basically lost already.

when carroll and not some beat writer says it, let me know.

Just jealous & bitter haterz.

I'm sorry, but I have to. Between your shutter shaded XBOX avatar and calling people "haterz", I've concluded that you're most likely in middle school. And there's over a 50% chance that he's not "jealous" because that's how many teams finished with a better record than the Seahawks last year. In a QB driven league, I would assume there aren't actually too many people jealous of the team with the worst QB situation in the league.