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Agree. RotoLab is the way to go. Be sure you get it early though. The first year I used it I got it like two days before my draft and it was almost useless to me. It takes a little while to get used to it, so get it early and practice moving around. Then when you draft comes you will be good to go. That is just my experience. Experiences from others may vary.Knightro said:
albino
Footballguy
I've downloaded the free demo and am checking it out. It uses projections from Baseball HQ and they have something called BPV which looks like something similar to VBD but not an exact match. The price is $69 for this software which is giving me pause. It's $49 if you are a Baseball HQ subscriber but that site is pricey too although probably worth it based on my using it last year. I also saw mention in another message board of someing called Diamond Draft software which is supposedly much cheaper so I thought I'd look at that one prior to making a decision on Rotolab.
Knightro
Footballguy
yep, something very close to it. You can download a free trial from the website to try it out.
Rotowire also has a draft program through their site. I have free preview with Rotowire right now, so maybe I will check it out and see what is on it. Won't be able to use it for a draft though. My preview is only 10 days. I probably wouldn't use it anyway as I use the same three sources for info and the same draft program every year.
Statorama
Footballguy
I've almost used them in the past. Good stuff?
bigalgreek
Footballguy
Which of these is better? I have a friend in both of my leagues that uses Rotolab and likes it, but I'd rather do something different than him. Is Fantistics good?
Captain Hook
Footballguy
P.A.U.L - an automatec value calculator available at fantasybaseball.com
RedRaiders
Mr. +EV
Rotolab , IIRC, was the group that wanted Mr. Pickles source code in 2004. They copied his program to the best of their ability.
AcerFC
Footballguy
Im not too sure I know what that means.
Wrigley
Footballguy
the_sig
Footballguy
Mike MacGregor over at FFToday has offered a FREE variant to his football Compiler software for baseball in years past. It is an excel based app that works well enough. It lets you weight different positions for scarcity, set up league scoring, etc and then spits out custom cheatsheets. You can also import your own data/stat projections & weight them based on variables etc....
he will probably mention it/or post something over at FFToday if/when he offers it this year. If I see anything on it (as I'd like it again as well) I'll post here.
he will probably mention it/or post something over at FFToday if/when he offers it this year. If I see anything on it (as I'd like it again as well) I'll post here.
Cowbell Fever
Footballguy
I used Diamond Draft last year and got it again for 2008. Easy to use and you can adjust values and stats. It's cheap and I wanted it basically to keep the draft organized. I trust the projections from fantasybaseball.com a bit more but I find Diamond Draft to be easier on the eyes than P.A.U.L.
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RedRaiders
Mr. +EV
Ok, not rotolab in this case then.
Man in the yellow hat
Footballguy
Just got this from Mike via email:::: Baseball Cheatsheet Compiler & Draft Buddy :::
A few of you fantasy baseball guys are already emailing for news about the release of the 2008 Cheatsheet Compiler & Draft Buddy. Spring Training is only 17 days away, but we are in a bit of a holding pattern right now.
Our projection providers the last few years, RotoChamps.com, are not doing projections this year due to other business interests. At this time we are looking for another projection source, but this will also involve creating a player database and update feature, formerly run by RotoChamps.
The intention at this time is to release an '08 Baseball Compiler & Buddy, but these issues need to be ironed out first. Keep emailing, and expect further updates to the mailing list as warranted. Thanks for your past support and patience!
2007 Baseball Compiler & Buddy:
http://www.myofficepool.ca/compiler/baseball_index.html
With spring training just around the corner I'm glad to see that this post has a lot of good information in it. Ok so it seems like the choices comes down to this:
Rotolab - long track record, but very pricey. Free trial.
fantistics.com - looks good, but haven't heard of people using them yet.
Diamond Draft - not sure if they have a similar VBD ranking. free trial.
fantasybaseball.com (P.A.U.L.) - not sure, no free trial.I really want a tool that will give me a similar VBD ranking. I feel that this ranking really helps in dealing with the unpredictable nature of a draft. Anyone else have any comments?
Rotolab - long track record, but very pricey. Free trial.
fantistics.com - looks good, but haven't heard of people using them yet.
Diamond Draft - not sure if they have a similar VBD ranking. free trial.
fantasybaseball.com (P.A.U.L.) - not sure, no free trial.I really want a tool that will give me a similar VBD ranking. I feel that this ranking really helps in dealing with the unpredictable nature of a draft. Anyone else have any comments?
Captain Hook
Footballguy
Keep in mind that with P.A.U.L the Platinum subscription at fantasybaseball.com for $39.95 also gives you Live Advice for the season.Also if you have a P.A.U.L question you can get in answered for free by logging on to their message boards now
dal_boys_phan
Footballguy
Wrigley
Footballguy
Hook, what is your user name at fantasybaseball.com?Keep in mind that with P.A.U.L the Platinum subscription at fantasybaseball.com for $39.95 also gives you Live Advice for the season.Also if you have a P.A.U.L question you can get in answered for free by logging on to their message boards now
Captain Hook
Footballguy
Wrigs - didn't think it was tough to figure outHook, what is your user name at fantasybaseball.com?Keep in mind that with P.A.U.L the Platinum subscription at fantasybaseball.com for $39.95 also gives you Live Advice for the season.Also if you have a P.A.U.L question you can get in answered for free by logging on to their message boards now
Perry Van Hook
Wrigley
Footballguy
I'm HaywoodCaptain Hook said:Wrigs - didn't think it was tough to figure outWrigley said:Hook, what is your user name at fantasybaseball.com?Keep in mind that with P.A.U.L the Platinum subscription at fantasybaseball.com for $39.95 also gives you Live Advice for the season.Also if you have a P.A.U.L question you can get in answered for free by logging on to their message boards now
RageRhino
Footballguy
for real...im not jacking out cash for baseball...
Captain Hook
Footballguy
then I suggest you just go with the ESPN rankings - you will get more than what you paid for
culdeus
Footballguy
with the free demo does it have the 08 projections or is it just showing you what the software can do?
The Man with the Plan
Footballguy
I like using basketballmonster.com for fantasy basketball and then I wondered if there was something just like it but for baseball. Just to see I tried putting in baseballmonster.com and sure enough it worked. Just another weapon for the baseball draft arsenal. The price is right too.
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Captain Hook
Footballguy
Interesting except you can only get the numbers run for past seasons - not projections for 2008The Man with the Plan said:
Man in the yellow hat
Footballguy
Got another email from Mike MacGregor over at FFToday. He is going to release the tool with Sportsline projections (which are free). It's the best he can do on short notice.
I'll still use the tool and tweak it with input from other sites.
It should be ready early next week.
I'll still use the tool and tweak it with input from other sites.
It should be ready early next week.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
Will this tool work for non-roto leagues? Total points and/or head to head (using total points) leagues?
I don't like using projections from where the league is hosted, but this might be my best option.
edit: never mind those questions, went to that webpage and saw screenshots of the tool. looks pretty good, and footballguys-like. Still not a fan of the CBS projections, but I'll probably go this route this year.
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culdeus
Footballguy
I sort of wrote a xls VBD calculator just to see the impact of certain starting league roster sizes versus the top 250 ranked players (ESPN) and their scarcity within it. What I did was take the rankings and graph them by position as well as do a basic count scarcity versus the likely makeup of the league.
Probably nothing shocking here, but results seem to indicate
For a no-DH 5OF 7IF 1UTIL 7P league (i.e. the only one I'm in at this point)
Working with the 5IF spots the math is easy and with only them you get:
Relative to ADP (i.e. espn rankings)
1B - down 5.3%
2B - down 3.9%
3B - up .6%
SS - up 2.6%
C - up 4.2%
It got very complex when dealing with the OF and P though. As the OF and P converge on eachother and then deviate rapidly. Also the dropoff for pitchers is very shallow across the board. Throwing in OF and P shows:
1B -2.5%
2B -1.1%
3B +3.4%
SS +5.4%
C +7%
OF -2.6%
P -10.9%
I think based on this analysis at least you can say wait until at least the 20th P is taken before drafting one. I need to develop VBD values next to see just how much this would affect VBD vs ADP. And of course this doesn't take into account scoring which is one of the main cornerstones of the dominator ap.
I did this to sort of set out to see if what most of the podcasts say is true; mainly that there is a very thin OF class this year. From this analysis it doesn't appear to be the case, or at least worth reaching for OF at any point. Really it looks like SS and C should be reached for at the expense of P.
This may have no value to anyone, but I was bored.
Probably nothing shocking here, but results seem to indicate
For a no-DH 5OF 7IF 1UTIL 7P league (i.e. the only one I'm in at this point)
Working with the 5IF spots the math is easy and with only them you get:
Relative to ADP (i.e. espn rankings)
1B - down 5.3%
2B - down 3.9%
3B - up .6%
SS - up 2.6%
C - up 4.2%
It got very complex when dealing with the OF and P though. As the OF and P converge on eachother and then deviate rapidly. Also the dropoff for pitchers is very shallow across the board. Throwing in OF and P shows:
1B -2.5%
2B -1.1%
3B +3.4%
SS +5.4%
C +7%
OF -2.6%
P -10.9%
I think based on this analysis at least you can say wait until at least the 20th P is taken before drafting one. I need to develop VBD values next to see just how much this would affect VBD vs ADP. And of course this doesn't take into account scoring which is one of the main cornerstones of the dominator ap.
I did this to sort of set out to see if what most of the podcasts say is true; mainly that there is a very thin OF class this year. From this analysis it doesn't appear to be the case, or at least worth reaching for OF at any point. Really it looks like SS and C should be reached for at the expense of P.
This may have no value to anyone, but I was bored.
TitusIII
Footballguy
Oh, it has value to your league-mate. Yes, yes it does...
I signed up with them this year too. The app seems pretty good. One thing that kind of standing out to me right now is that for my AL only league, it says that I.Kinsler is the 7th best player...
...Besides from that everything else looks good.It even has a mock draft tool builtin which I haven't seen in many other baseball drafting tools.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
...or for $39.99 you could get TWO different programs to help you with a Platinum membership at www.fantsaybaseball.com
1) Automated value calculator - will let you customize for your league and get rankings and values (already available with 2008 projections)
2) Draft Worksheet - tracks everything during a draft/auction and provides up to the minute rankings as well as projected totals and standings by category (updating 2007 version shortly)
And these are just a few of the things you get - constantly updated projections; news; blog from spring training; Live Advice (one on one questions with staff); Plus a very active message board (one for subscribers only and one general - has a thread for people looking for leagues and for leagues looking for teams)
AND all of the above comes with a MONEY BACK GUARANTEE!
...ahem...plus a FBG as one of the staff
1) Automated value calculator - will let you customize for your league and get rankings and values (already available with 2008 projections)
2) Draft Worksheet - tracks everything during a draft/auction and provides up to the minute rankings as well as projected totals and standings by category (updating 2007 version shortly)
And these are just a few of the things you get - constantly updated projections; news; blog from spring training; Live Advice (one on one questions with staff); Plus a very active message board (one for subscribers only and one general - has a thread for people looking for leagues and for leagues looking for teams)
AND all of the above comes with a MONEY BACK GUARANTEE!
...ahem...plus a FBG as one of the staff
Mike
Footballguy
Hi guys. The Cheatsheet Compiler & Draft Buddy, Baseball Version for 2008, was just uploaded, and the download links are updated on the Baseball Compiler webpage. You can find it at my website, right here.I'm trying to send a newsletter letting people on my mailing list know, but wouldn't you know the normally reliable website I use for the mailing list is currently down. Nice timing
At any rate, for those who have been waiting for the Compiler & Buddy, thanks for you patience. Although I did say previously I wasn't going to make any feature changes for 2008 (for the time being), I did make a couple of key improvements to Draft Buddy. Cheers.
Man in the yellow hat
Footballguy
Thanks Mike!Hi guys. The Cheatsheet Compiler & Draft Buddy, Baseball Version for 2008, was just uploaded, and the download links are updated on the Baseball Compiler webpage. You can find it at my website, right here.I'm trying to send a newsletter letting people on my mailing list know, but wouldn't you know the normally reliable website I use for the mailing list is currently down. Nice timing
At any rate, for those who have been waiting for the Compiler & Buddy, thanks for you patience. Although I did say previously I wasn't going to make any feature changes for 2008 (for the time being), I did make a couple of key improvements to Draft Buddy. Cheers.
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