'Skins tribute to Taylor (1 Viewer)

[Joe Bryant]

Did Gibbs and Jauron have a gentleman's agreement prior to the game that Buffalo would run the ball on the first play? People in this thread knew Washington would only have ten men on the first play, so certainly Buffalo had to know as well. How much crap would Edwards have taken if he audibled to a deep ball to Evans?

I would think Jauron knew. J

 

[redman]

Pretty cool.From ESPN.com

As the Buffalo Bills got ready to run their first play midway through the first quarter, the man who replaced Taylor in the starting lineup, Reed Doughty, stood near coaches on the sideline with his arms crossed. After watching while Bills running back Fred Jackson gained 22 yards, Doughty entered for the next play -- and made the tackle.

How did Doughty play the rest of the game?J

He plays okay. Surely not as athletic and hinders the ability to run the same exact defense that had Sean in there. Though, comparing him to ST is not fair either. Again he does okay, but his play can be forgotten as a whole. He's just one of the guys and surprisingly he starts over Pierson Prioleau, but the coaching staff has liked him enough in the past to keep him as a 5th or 6th Safety on the roster. He will not be the starter next year unless something changes, so...basically he's a fill-in as of now.

He's the classic 2nd day draftee from a smaller, less regarded football program who plays based upon brains, preparation, toughness and being assignment sound, and who stuck in the league initially by playing on special teams. He's not nearly the athlete that Taylor was or Landry is, but he can be adequate with the right things going on around him. I'd say he'll definitely have a target on his back though as the dropoff from Taylor to him is pretty steep.

 

[redman]

Did Gibbs and Jauron have a gentleman's agreement prior to the game that Buffalo would run the ball on the first play? People in this thread knew Washington would only have ten men on the first play, so certainly Buffalo had to know as well. How much crap would Edwards have taken if he audibled to a deep ball to Evans?

Well, I don't know about Edwards, but I do know that that defense that was already emotional playing a week following the death of a teammate would have been out for blood after that, and it wouldn't have been pretty. If I was J.P. Losman I'd have immediately started warming up.

 

[PainTrain]

I was hoping that the play wouldn't affect the outcome (it didn't), but wouldn't it have been a great story if the defense HAD given up a score without him playing there, and then the Redskins overcame it? I think that would have been pretty poetic, Hollywood stuff.

Of course, if the final score ended up as it did, the Bills would have never lived it down.

 

[thayman]

I liked it. It's a shame the team looked under prepared and out of practice this week. Anyway, good game by the Bills.

I disagree, they looked fine to me. The effort for most was there, they weren't missing a bunch of tackles and didn't have real mental break down's. What we had was a poor OL day as the Bills pressured Campbell ALL DAY and hit Portis at the line of scrimmage ALL DAY. Add that they had major drives that would only net a FG, offense get out of synch in 2nd half, while Bills started to take advantage. After all of this, you sprinkle on some poor game clock management by the coaching staff...TA DA! You get what we got...at least that is how I saw it.

What I mean is under normal circumstances the coaching staff and players would be going over a lot more film on the Bills. I don't think a whole lot of that went on this week. If it did, I think they swing the score at least 3 points for a win.

 

[Bizkiteer]

I liked it. It's a shame the team looked under prepared and out of practice this week. Anyway, good game by the Bills.

I disagree, they looked fine to me. The effort for most was there, they weren't missing a bunch of tackles and didn't have real mental break down's. What we had was a poor OL day as the Bills pressured Campbell ALL DAY and hit Portis at the line of scrimmage ALL DAY. Add that they had major drives that would only net a FG, offense get out of synch in 2nd half, while Bills started to take advantage. After all of this, you sprinkle on some poor game clock management by the coaching staff...TA DA! You get what we got...at least that is how I saw it.

What I mean is under normal circumstances the coaching staff and players would be going over a lot more film on the Bills. I don't think a whole lot of that went on this week. If it did, I think they swing the score at least 3 points for a win.

Fair enough and I can see that point. Maybe my confidence in the coaching staff and it's ability to game plan is not what it used to be, so I'm not sure if it would help or not that much. Just realized what I said and it's kind of a sad thing to say now that I think about it.

 

[redman]

I was hoping that the play wouldn't affect the outcome (it didn't), but wouldn't it have been a great story if the defense HAD given up a score without him playing there, and then the Redskins overcame it? I think that would have been pretty poetic, Hollywood stuff. Of course, if the final score ended up as it did, the Bills would have never lived it down.

Nowadays I'm impressed enough when the team can overcome its own coaching staff and its own mistakes. Don't pile on, guy.

 

[Seymour Corn]

I don't think its enough. They should play with ten men for the rest of the season.

 

[DCThunder]

Gibbs said after the game that he didn't know about the 10 men on the field as it was an idea of Gregg's and the defensive unit.

Somehwere they also announced that the Skins were going to keep Taylor as the starting saftey on the charts that were given to the TV analysts of the Skins personnel for the rest of the season.

Does anybody know if the other players around the league will keep the 21 on their helmets the rest of the way?

 

[redman]

Gibbs said after the game that he didn't know about the 10 men on the field as it was an idea of Gregg's and the defensive unit.

Somehwere they also announced that the Skins were going to keep Taylor as the starting saftey on the charts that were given to the TV analysts of the Skins personnel for the rest of the season.

Does anybody know if the other players around the league will keep the 21 on their helmets the rest of the way?

It's their option to do it or not. The 'Skins will keep it all year though.

 

[NoFBinLA]

A very moving tribute - I do remember both seeing USC do it for their kicker and while I will be dating myself here, like Joe B, I remember the Hank Gathers tribute by Kimble.

Some things are bigger than a play, a series or a game. That was one.

I guess I'm a sucker for Missing Man formations....

 

[montanagold]

Belichick would go deep here...

 

[Raider Nation]

Did Gibbs and Jauron have a gentleman's agreement prior to the game that Buffalo would run the ball on the first play? People in this thread knew Washington would only have ten men on the first play, so certainly Buffalo had to know as well.

I would think Jauron knew.

Joe, Trey Wingo just said on NFL Live that the Bills had no clue about this in advance. Hell, Joe Gibbs didn't know. Gregg Williams did this on his own. I wonder which staffer is responsible for waking Gibbs before games and propping him up on the sidelines.

 

[redman]

Did Gibbs and Jauron have a gentleman's agreement prior to the game that Buffalo would run the ball on the first play? People in this thread knew Washington would only have ten men on the first play, so certainly Buffalo had to know as well.

I would think Jauron knew.

Joe, Trey Wingo just said on NFL Live that the Bills had no clue about this in advance. Hell, Joe Gibbs didn't know. Gregg Williams did this on his own. I wonder which staffer is responsible for waking Gibbs before games and propping him up on the sidelines.

Gibbs is definitely involved with his team, so it's pretty shocking they didn't tell him about this beforehand. He certainly defers on defense to Williams though, and with this week being what it was I guess nothing is surprising (or all that indicative of the way things normally operate).

 

[DanFouts]

Did Gibbs and Jauron have a gentleman's agreement prior to the game that Buffalo would run the ball on the first play? People in this thread knew Washington would only have ten men on the first play, so certainly Buffalo had to know as well.

I would think Jauron knew.

Joe, Trey Wingo just said on NFL Live that the Bills had no clue about this in advance. Hell, Joe Gibbs didn't know. Gregg Williams did this on his own. I wonder which staffer is responsible for waking Gibbs before games and propping him up on the sidelines.

Wash POst said the same thing. Jauron said he didn't know either.....lucky Landry took him out of bounds. I imagine Jackson would not have made that big run if he knew....

 

[Tanner9919]

The Redskins will play only 10 men on defense for the first snap that the defense is on the field.

maybe Gregg Williams coulda told his HC he was doing it?! cost the Redskins 22 yards..what the heck was he thinking, NOT telling Joe Gibbs?! they should have told the Bills they were doing it, and called a timeout before the snap, and brought the 11th guy in..Bills have enough class to not run a play in a situation like that..

 

[BelichicksRevenge]

Anyone expecting the Bills to take a knee are idiots. So the bills should get stuck in a 2nd and 10? The skins were taking the chance and if the Bills had thrown the ball long I would have no problem with it.

 

[thayman]

Anyone expecting the Bills to take a knee are idiots. So the bills should get stuck in a 2nd and 10? The skins were taking the chance and if the Bills had thrown the ball long I would have no problem with it.

I wouldn't expect them to take a knee. As a rabid Skins fan I was happy with how it went. A big run with 10 guys on the field, followed by a three and out.

 

[switz]

That was really stupid. Why let the other team get a free 22 yard run on you?

There are ways to honor the deceased, that isn't one of them.

Should have been a 21 yard run

 

[fatness]

As a tribute to Taylor, the Redskins played with only 10 players on defense on the Bills' first play from scrimmage. Gregg Williams, the Redskins' assistant head coach-defense, made the decision Saturday. "It was pretty much a unanimous choice from the defensive staff and the defensive players," Williams said. "We got out there and got to our business after that."

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Gibbs said after the game he did not speak with Gregg Williams about the decision to use 10 men at the start of the game. But Williams and Gibbs met in the coach's dressing room for about 7 minutes after the game, and Williams said he explained the decision to Gibbs after the game. Gibbs told us he did not have a problem with Williams doing it - though you got the strong impression he would have preferred to have known before hand - and when asked if Gibbs was okay with the move Williams said: "Sure he is. Yep."

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[Raider Nation]

Did Gibbs and Jauron have a gentleman's agreement prior to the game that Buffalo would run the ball on the first play? People in this thread knew Washington would only have ten men on the first play, so certainly Buffalo had to know as well.

I would think Jauron knew.

Joe, Trey Wingo just said on NFL Live that the Bills had no clue about this in advance. Hell, Joe Gibbs didn't know. Gregg Williams did this on his own. I wonder which staffer is responsible for waking Gibbs before games and propping him up on the sidelines.

Wash POst said the same thing. Jauron said he didn't know either.....lucky Landry took him out of bounds. I imagine Jackson would not have made that big run if he knew....

Heard Jackson on Sirius today. He said that one of the guards in the huddle pointed out that Washington only had 10 men on the field, so the offense knew about it before the ball was snapped.

 

[Raider Nation]

The Redskins will play only 10 men on defense for the first snap that the defense is on the field.

maybe Gregg Williams coulda told his HC he was doing it?! cost the Redskins 22 yards..what the heck was he thinking, NOT telling Joe Gibbs?!

Speculation on the radio today was that Gibbs would not have granted permission to do it... thus the covert operation.

 

[phthalatemagic]

nice.a sean taylor tribute thread flushed right into the gutter by the pats haters.real classy.you guys need to get a life, this obsession is unhealthy --- is it possible that a thread on this board doesn't turn into a pats thread?

toxic waste

 

[Harjiran]

It's still sinking in. I'm never going to see Sean Taylor play football again, never gonna see him patrol that secondary, hitting people the way the game was meant to be played. It's sad. But I'm happy to be alive today, happy to be getting married soon, grateful for all the blessings in my life. Peace to you all.

 

[beast8812]

I liked it. It's a shame the team looked under prepared and out of practice this week. Anyway, good game by the Bills.

I disagree, they looked fine to me. The effort for most was there, they weren't missing a bunch of tackles and didn't have real mental break down's. What we had was a poor OL day as the Bills pressured Campbell ALL DAY and hit Portis at the line of scrimmage ALL DAY. Add that they had major drives that would only net a FG, offense get out of synch in 2nd half, while Bills started to take advantage. After all of this, you sprinkle on some poor game clock management by the coaching staff...TA DA! You get what we got...at least that is how I saw it.

What I mean is under normal circumstances the coaching staff and players would be going over a lot more film on the Bills. I don't think a whole lot of that went on this week. If it did, I think they swing the score at least 3 points for a win.

Guys im a huge skins fan and if you watched the interviews after the game it wasnt just a regular game or easy for the guys. Im pretty sure it was fred smoot, but he said he was in tears for the first 2 defensive possesions. Doesnt sound to easy to me. It may be a little much but me and all my buddies are going to nfl.com and filling out probowl rosters with sean taylor as the safety.

 

[redman]

I just came across something that I thought was pretty cool. This clip (only one minute long) is from the pregame intros vs. the Lions this year. It ends showing Taylor staring down the Lions' Eric Frampton, who is woofing back.

Later on in that game, Frampton went up against Taylor on one side of the field as a gunner on a punt return and wrestled Taylor out of bounds; Taylor ran all the way across the field and laid out Frampton in a clean block shown here. Very cool stuff.

 

[Johnny Ice]

I just came across something that I thought was pretty cool. This clip (only one minute long) is from the pregame intros vs. the Lions this year. It ends showing Taylor staring down the Lions' Eric Frampton, who is woofing back.

Later on in that game, Frampton went up against Taylor on one side of the field as a gunner on a punt return and wrestled Taylor out of bounds; Taylor ran all the way across the field and laid out Frampton in a clean block shown here. Very cool stuff.

Nice find.

 

[Max Power]

Quick question about this...

Did Buffalo put any points on the board during the 10 mne tribute drive?

 

[southeastjerome]

Quick question about this...Did Buffalo put any points on the board during the 10 mne tribute drive?

No. They got one first down and then punted.