Smack Tripper
Footballguy
I'll jump in with Lucas Duda, of-1b ability who won't be a super star, but some depth with minor flexibility for your roster.
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Sleeper Time, 2012 edition (1 Viewer)
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pantagrapher
Footballguy
Dayan Viciedo
MAC_32
Footballguy
C - Salvador Perez, like Mesoraco too but think he's a 2013 breakout.
1B - If we're digging deep, Moreland. To a lesser degree, Belt. I think both Lind and Goldy present tremendous value too.
2B - Lots of under valued - Kipnis, Kelly, A Hill, Espinosa), Altuve's the true sleeper though
SS - Cozart, Scutaro is a good value play too
3B - Figgins, to a lesser degree Stewart. I don't feel great about any of the young guys but if I had to choose one it'd be Chisenhall
OF - Lots of value here - Bourjos + Brantley + Boesch + Joyce + JD Martinez + Reimold + Tabata + Presley + Venable. True sleeper - Heisey. I like the Viciedo call too. Eric Young, Dom Brown, and Sands are good fliers too for those in deep leagues with bench space.
1B - If we're digging deep, Moreland. To a lesser degree, Belt. I think both Lind and Goldy present tremendous value too.
2B - Lots of under valued - Kipnis, Kelly, A Hill, Espinosa), Altuve's the true sleeper though
SS - Cozart, Scutaro is a good value play too
3B - Figgins, to a lesser degree Stewart. I don't feel great about any of the young guys but if I had to choose one it'd be Chisenhall
OF - Lots of value here - Bourjos + Brantley + Boesch + Joyce + JD Martinez + Reimold + Tabata + Presley + Venable. True sleeper - Heisey. I like the Viciedo call too. Eric Young, Dom Brown, and Sands are good fliers too for those in deep leagues with bench space.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Colby Rasmus is buried by most ranking systems.
Adam Dunn
Alex Presley
Brennan Boesch
Alcides Escobar
Pitching: Franky Liriano burned me bad last year, but I can't stay away for that rock bottom price.
Adam Dunn
Alex Presley
Brennan Boesch
Alcides Escobar
Pitching: Franky Liriano burned me bad last year, but I can't stay away for that rock bottom price.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
I'm trying to keep that as silent as I can amongst chatter with leaguemates. He's going to be Pedroia Lite this year, only 6 rounds later. If he's locked into that #2 spot in the order it could be a real nice year for Howard.
pantagrapher
Footballguy
I feel like Espinosa is overvalued, if anything. Once pitchers adjusted to him last season, he tanked. And with his K rate, I don't see him figuring it out this year. I think he'll regress.I agree with you on Hill though. Can be had super cheap.
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shadyridr
Footballguy
until he gets hurt
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
He's averaged 576 AB's over the last 2 years. There are quite a few guys who will be good, until they get hurt this year.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I just look at all of those guys and say I wouldn't be surprised if they hit 20-20. Espinosa's my least favorite among them because he's the one most likely to get an unfavorable spot in the batting order.
let me try a stab of it...
c-none really jump off the page. either overpay for a top four catcher, or just wait till the very end, and they all are about the same. I happen to like Arenciba as a "sleeper". He's seemed to drop till late in the drafts I've done, people are afraid of the low average and high k rate, but he's young and if he can gather a little plate discipline, his power will come in handy.
1b- Ike Davis. really like him this year. I try to get him as my corner guy with another #1 first baseman, and he has high potential. Fences moved in, he can rake.
2b-tons of second basemen this year, but the one I like is Neil Walker. Another young guy, hits cleanup, and helps across the board. Not a stud, but I think he outproduces a ton of guys picked ahead of him this year.
3b-tough for me to say ARod is a sleeper, but he's dropping below some guys I think he outproduces....some guys I think with sleeper potential are Moustakous in KC, Roberts in AZ (also 2b eligble which is a bonus) and deep, deep sleeper in Scott Rolen. Rolen is allegedly swinging free and easy, and in that ball park, could put up nice power numbers. You have to factor in he may only play 4-5 games per week, so he's more valuable in daily lineup leagues.
SS - Although I don't think Scutaro is going to have a huge season, I think getting out of the pressure cooker of Boston, and having any every day gig, he can produce. Jed Lowrie in Houston is another guy to target real late. I wouldn't overpay on either, but if I can get one of these two in the very end, I'm happy.
OF - Michael Cuddyer. I'm going to drink the kool aid, I think he has a great year. Nice offensive lineup around him, good park to hit, I can see a 285/30/100/90/10 line. I'll overpay a bit and hope he doesn't turn into Brad Hawpe overnight. Choo in Cleveland (esp obp leagues) seems to be like kryptonite - not going to call him a sleeper but I don't see why he doesn't produce. I like Lucas Duda in NY too, but he seems to be getting snapped up earlier than I'd expect him to. For as many outfielders as they seem to be, I prefer to play it safe and grab a bunch earlier than others. Deep sleeper potential - Jerry Sands in LA
c-none really jump off the page. either overpay for a top four catcher, or just wait till the very end, and they all are about the same. I happen to like Arenciba as a "sleeper". He's seemed to drop till late in the drafts I've done, people are afraid of the low average and high k rate, but he's young and if he can gather a little plate discipline, his power will come in handy.
1b- Ike Davis. really like him this year. I try to get him as my corner guy with another #1 first baseman, and he has high potential. Fences moved in, he can rake.
2b-tons of second basemen this year, but the one I like is Neil Walker. Another young guy, hits cleanup, and helps across the board. Not a stud, but I think he outproduces a ton of guys picked ahead of him this year.
3b-tough for me to say ARod is a sleeper, but he's dropping below some guys I think he outproduces....some guys I think with sleeper potential are Moustakous in KC, Roberts in AZ (also 2b eligble which is a bonus) and deep, deep sleeper in Scott Rolen. Rolen is allegedly swinging free and easy, and in that ball park, could put up nice power numbers. You have to factor in he may only play 4-5 games per week, so he's more valuable in daily lineup leagues.
SS - Although I don't think Scutaro is going to have a huge season, I think getting out of the pressure cooker of Boston, and having any every day gig, he can produce. Jed Lowrie in Houston is another guy to target real late. I wouldn't overpay on either, but if I can get one of these two in the very end, I'm happy.
OF - Michael Cuddyer. I'm going to drink the kool aid, I think he has a great year. Nice offensive lineup around him, good park to hit, I can see a 285/30/100/90/10 line. I'll overpay a bit and hope he doesn't turn into Brad Hawpe overnight. Choo in Cleveland (esp obp leagues) seems to be like kryptonite - not going to call him a sleeper but I don't see why he doesn't produce. I like Lucas Duda in NY too, but he seems to be getting snapped up earlier than I'd expect him to. For as many outfielders as they seem to be, I prefer to play it safe and grab a bunch earlier than others. Deep sleeper potential - Jerry Sands in LA
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yes, and Lawrie(at least in the drafts I've witnessed)
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
#45 overall on ESPN he is definitely over-valued.#68 on Yahoo not as much.
A little bit but I think it is as much of a reaction to how weak 1B is than overrating Hosmer's potential. After the first two rounds, the average drafter will be left to choose Carlos Santana, Konerko and Hosmer for 1B. Santana probably goes 3rd round for being a C and that leaves Konerko, Hosmer for rounds 4-6. I think round 4 might be a little early but if you believe in him it might be where you have to pick him to guarantee you get him now. I'd be fine with him in round 5-6 in a 12 team so anywhere between 50-70 is probably where he should be valued. People hope he is Votto lite and are taking the risk to do it. I think Hosmer goes low end .280 20 hrs 80 rbis 10 sb and higher end .300 25 hrs 100 rbis 15 sb. If he goes 25-100 than he isn't being overvalued. But in a non keeper league, Hosmer is probably being drafted too high compared to replacement value of someone like Freddie Freeman/Gaby Sanchez many rounds later. In a keeper league you are going to have to pay a premium for the chance to get in on the ground floor of a potential Votto like talent.'Annyong said:
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
For who? Lind?
Thunderlips
Footballguy
Run Freeman/Sanchez with Kendrys Morales. YWIA
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Espinosa's BABIP was pretty poor last year, from what I recall. His BA is really what kept his fantasy value down. I think he'll be better in that regard this year.
pantagrapher
Footballguy
I'm falling for Cory Luebke. 154 Ks in 139 innings. 1.07 WHIP. Pitchers park. .209 BAA.
Not sure he qualifies so much as a sleeper but Melky Cabrera is flying under the radar this year. He had a pretty damn good year last year with the Royals and nobody seems to think he can repeat but his ST stats are great. Not sure I would bet the farm on him repeating his year but I think he is being undervalued/overlooked this year.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Goldy, preferably.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Maybe a switch to Trumbo is in your future?
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Yes, it is the year for Chris Davis to finally break out. He won't be a superstar, but he will be servicable. I see a slash around .275 / .325 / .475. around 25 HR and 95 RBI
Eephus
Footballguy
...for Norfolk
shadyridr
Footballguy
All the good 1B in my keeper league are kept. I may need to reach for Goldy in the 8th
KiddLattimer
Footballguy
Felipe Paulino, SP KC - huge K rate, was used as a RP in colorado but shows some potential as a SP
KiddLattimer
Footballguy
out at least 3 months w/ meniscus surgery
Got to be disconcerting the he first ran the bases about what 10 days ago? Had a second surgery last spring training and just getting around to running bases now.With Abreau and Trumbo in the mix, hard not to think that Morales will be brought along very slowly. Wouldn't be surprised if he sat a couple of games a week for a while.
kneeshooter
Footballguy
FYI - Morales went 2-3 in yesterdays game, and ran the bases at game speed (for him at least) with no pain. The Angels have been bringing him along very slowly, and it seems like he is on track to start the season completely healthy (I hope I didn't just jinx it).
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
C- Jarrod Saltalmacchia: Pretty much got the lions share of a 3game/2game spilt with Varitek last year which netted him about 370 plate apperances. I don't see the same thing happening again this year with Shoppach and Salty should hopefully see Catcher responsibilities increase to his 4 games to Shoppach's 1. That would put him around 500 PAs. He's only 26 and he'll probably be an average killer, but he should crack top 10 in Catchers this year by sniffing around 25HR and 85RBI.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Sean Rodriguez. (again, going to keep predicting his breakout until it actually happens, or not)
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
As we creep up on the half way point.....
On pace for .266 / .309 / .463 - 26HR, 67 RBI. And that's on the heels of a 0-25ish slump.
On pace for 29HR, 74RBI and hasn't been as bad with the BA as I thought (.255). He's currently ranked 10th at C in my league and is outperfoming guys that went much higher in the draft (Santana, Montero, Avila, Napoli)
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Big homer last night!
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
You're a big homer. Today.
