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[D_Rock]

I will be starting a slow auction draft Monday. I will be keeping this thread up to date for 2 reasons...

1) To help others with an available mock draft (Auction Style) $260 Salary Cap

2) To look for advice from time to time. Anyone and everyone is welcome to chime in.

Rules for our league....

7X7 Roto

16 teams, Rosters are 33 players deep.



Breakdown

Starters:

2 Catchers

1 First Baseman

1 Second Baseman

1 Third Baseman

1 Shortstop

1 Corner IF

1 Middle IF

5 Outfielders

1 Utility

9 Pitchers

6 Bench spots

4 DL spots

There is a seperate Minor League draft to get our 10 minor leaguers...

Here are the categories:

Hitting

Batting Average

Home Runs

RBI

Runs

Stolen Bases

OBP

Strikeouts

Pitching

Wins

ERA

WHIP

Strikeouts

Saves

QS

Holds

Players Taken

C

Brian McCann- $26*

Joe Mauer- $25

Russell Martin- $25

Geovony Soto- $21

Victor Martinez- $18

Jorge Posada- $7

Chris Snyder- $4

1B

Albert Pujols- $49

Mark Teixiera- $41

Justin Morneau- $36

Ryan Howard- $35

Prince Fielder- $35

Lance Berkman-$34

Kevin Youkilis- $28

Adrian Gonzalez- $26

Joey Votto- $26

Carlos Pena $17

Carlos Delgado- $14

2B

Chase Utley- $35

Ian Kinsler- $35

Dustin Pedroia- $34

Brandon Phillips- $27

Brian Roberts- $21

Dan Uggla- $16

Robinson Cano- $15*

Mike Fontenot- $5

3B

David Wright- $45

Alex Rodriguez- $43

Miguel Cabrera- $38

Evan Longoria- $35

Aramis Ramirez- $28

Chris Davis- $26*

Garret Atkins- $19

Aubrey Huff- $17

Chone Figgins- $11

Ty Wiggington- $9

Casey Blake- $5

SS

Hanley Ramirez- $48

Jose Reyes- $44

Jimmy Rollins- $38*

Stephen Drew- $26

Alexei Ramirez- $24

JJ Hardy- $21

Rafael Furcal- $18

Derek Jeter- $17

Johnny Peralta- $17

Troy Tulowitzski- $16

Ryan Theriot- $13

OF

Grady Sizemore- $41

Ryan Braun- $37

Carlos Beltran- $36

Josh Hamilton- $35

Manny Ramirez- $34

Matt Holiday- $32

Ichiro Suzuki- $32

BJ Upton- $32

Carlos Quentin- $30

Carl Crawford- $30

Nick Markakis- $29

Alfonso Soriano- $27

Jason Bay- $27

Jacoby Ellsbury- $26

Curtis Granderson- $26

Carlos Lee- $26

Shane Victornio- $25

Nate McLouth- $23

Vladimir Guerrero- $22

Johnny Damon- $22

Jay Bruce- $21

Alex Rios- $20

Andre Ethier- $20

Jermaine Dye- $19

Ryan Ludwick- $19

Magglio Ordonez- $19

Bobby Abreu- $18

Adam Dunn- $16

Milton Bradley- $16

Corey Hart- $16

Hunter Pence- $16*

Denard Span- $13

Jaysen Werth- $13

Coco Crisp- $10

David DeJesus- $10

Ty Wiggington- $9

Nate Shierholtz- $2

Wily Mo Pena- $1

Travis Buck- $1

UTIL

David Ortiz- $24

SP

Tim Lincencum- $38

Johan Santana- $34

Cole Hamels- $31

CC Sabathia- $29

Roy Halladay- $29

Brandon Webb- $29

Jake Peavy- $25

Josh Beckett- $23

Roy Oswalt- $21

Ervin Santana- $21

John Lackey- $20

Felix Hernandez- $18

James Shields- $18

David Price- $17

Daisuke Matsuzaka- $17

Cliff Lee- $16

Edinson Volquez- $16

Joba Chamberlein- $16*

Erik Bedard- $15

Derek Lowe- $15

Scott Kazmir- $15

AJ Burnett- $14

Justin Verlander- $14

Ben Sheets- $13

Ricky Nolasco- $12*

Johnny Cueto- $9*

Dustin McGowan- $4

RP

Johnathen Papelbon- $26

Francisco Rodriguez- $24

Joe Nathan- $21

Mariano Rivera- $20

Brad Lidge-$20

Joakim Soria- $19

Bobby Jenks- $15

Jose Valverde- $13

Francisco Cordero- $10

Kerry Wood- $10

Trevor Hoffman- $9

Brian Wilson- $9

Grant Balfour- $7

JJ Putz- $6

Rafael Soriano- $4

Scott Downs- $4

Jeremy Affeldt- $2

 

[Tiger Fan]

you got a time machine?

 

[D_Rock]

you got a time machine?

Just preparin fella

 

[meeka]

you got a time machine?

Just preparin fella

 

[Eephus]

Seven pitching categories really devalues closers. K-rod or Papelbon would be good names to throw out in the early rounds so other owners blow some of their bankroll.

 

[D_Rock]

Seven pitching categories really devalues closers. K-rod or Papelbon would be good names to throw out in the early rounds so other owners blow some of their bankroll.

Now, WHY does this devalue closers? I trust you, but I dont understand why.The QS category?These are the types of posts I am hoping for by posting this in here.Hmmm...We were just talking about who we wanted to nominate first. Everyone gets to nominate a guy and then once their guy is won by whoever...they nominate another.BTW, we are thinking of throwing JJ Putz out there...We figured setup guys would be on the cheap at the beginning of the draft.

 

[Eephus]

Seven pitching categories really devalues closers. K-rod or Papelbon would be good names to throw out in the early rounds so other owners blow some of their bankroll.

Now, WHY does this devalue closers? I trust you, but I dont understand why.The QS category?These are the types of posts I am hoping for by posting this in here.Hmmm...We were just talking about who we wanted to nominate first. Everyone gets to nominate a guy and then once their guy is won by whoever...they nominate another.BTW, we are thinking of throwing JJ Putz out there...We figured setup guys would be on the cheap at the beginning of the draft.

The two additional pitching categories reduce the importance of SV from 10% to 7% of total scoring. The value of the typical one inning closer in 5x5 is debatable; their contribution in the other four categories is limited due to their low IP counts. Now you've added two more categories: QS, which a closer can never get and HLD, which top closers will never be put in the position to achieve.Closers are still more valuable than set-up men because their roles are usually more defined and predictable. But if owners use average 5x5 auction values as their guide, they'll be overpaying for SVs.

 

[D_Rock]

Seven pitching categories really devalues closers. K-rod or Papelbon would be good names to throw out in the early rounds so other owners blow some of their bankroll.

Now, WHY does this devalue closers? I trust you, but I dont understand why.The QS category?These are the types of posts I am hoping for by posting this in here.Hmmm...We were just talking about who we wanted to nominate first. Everyone gets to nominate a guy and then once their guy is won by whoever...they nominate another.BTW, we are thinking of throwing JJ Putz out there...We figured setup guys would be on the cheap at the beginning of the draft.

The two additional pitching categories reduce the importance of SV from 10% to 7% of total scoring. The value of the typical one inning closer in 5x5 is debatable; their contribution in the other four categories is limited due to their low IP counts. Now you've added two more categories: QS, which a closer can never get and HLD, which top closers will never be put in the position to achieve.Closers are still more valuable than set-up men because their roles are usually more defined and predictable. But if owners use average 5x5 auction values as their guide, they'll be overpaying for SVs.

DRAFT IS UNDERWAY

 

[D_Rock]

Draft just started. I will keep the first post up to date with the players on the market and their current bids...Obviously this will be hit or miss whether this is up to date or not.

Then I will keep the winning bids of the players for reference.

 

[Eephus]

How much money does each team have to work with?

 

[D_Rock]

How much money does each team have to work with?

$260 bucks

 

[D_Rock]

Well....

After the first couple of hours of these prices going through the roof, we have decided to NOT go after any of these HUGE name players. We are going to be frugal with our money at all positions except 2B and SS...We arent smart enough to piss away all of our money on these big name guys and find enough 1 dollar bargains to compete and win.

The semi mediocre players are going to be our route.

 

[Eephus]

Well....After the first couple of hours of these prices going through the roof, we have decided to NOT go after any of these HUGE name players. We are going to be frugal with our money at all positions except 2B and SS...We arent smart enough to piss away all of our money on these big name guys and find enough 1 dollar bargains to compete and win.The semi mediocre players are going to be our route.

Two words: Val youFind a website with relatively current 5x5 auction values, adjust for your scoring system (closers down, OBP guys up) and personal preferences. Grab value early, late or in the middle. But don't be too afraid of high price tags, you need some studs to compete and there's no prizes for only spending $240.

 

[D_Rock]

Players on the Market Right Now

Manny Ramirez- 24

Matt Holiday- 26

Alfonso Soriano- 22

Vladimir Guerrero- 21

Wily Mo Pena- 1

Ryan Howard- 30

Albert Pujols- 45

Chase Utley- 29

Hanley Ramirez-45

Alex Rodriguez- 41

David Wright- 42

Jorge Posada- 3

CC Sabathia- 29

Johan Santana- 34

Mariano Rivera- 15

JJ Putz- 6

We are going to bid on Chase Utley here...but I am not even holding out hope he goes anywhere under 35 bucks...We may be passing on this batch of players.

 

[D_Rock]

May bid 4 bucks on Jorge Posada...I think he is worth at least that and starting 2 catchers it would be nice to get started that way.

 

[MAC_32]

May bid 4 bucks on Jorge Posada...I think he is worth at least that and starting 2 catchers it would be nice to get started that way.

I think that's a great idea.Definitely jump on Soriano for 23 too.

 

[D_Rock]

Players on the Market Right Now

Manny Ramirez- 25

Matt Holiday- 28

Alfonso Soriano- 22

Vladimir Guerrero- 22

Wily Mo Pena- 1

Ryan Howard- 30

Albert Pujols- 46

Chase Utley- 30

Hanley Ramirez-45

Alex Rodriguez- 43

David Wright- 43

Jorge Posada- 5

CC Sabathia- 29

Johan Santana- 34

Mariano Rivera- 16

JJ Putz- 6

Posada going up...up to 5 bucks.

I wonder if the guy who nominated Wily Mo Pena wanted him for a buck...He is about to expire in 5 mins.

 

[cheese]

You definitely should be in on Holliday, Soriano and Utley IMO. I would probably pay a decent amount above their current price.

Soriano at $23 would be insane value, and I would probably take him for $33.

 

[MAC_32]

I do not think paying that much for Utley would be wise.

 

[Eephus]

You should consider changing the thread title to slow auction instead of draft. 7x7 issues notwithstanding, I think there's a lot more interest here about early auction values.

I'm torn on Putz at $6. On one hand, your league places as much value on HLDs as SVs, so $7 isn't a big price for a guy who'll be in position for a bunch of HLD (Scot Shields led MLB in front of K-rod last year), has had good peripherals except for last year and is the next in line if Rodriguez' workload catches up with him. But setup guys should be available on the waiver wire all year long if your league rules allow free, unlimited pickups.

I like Vladimir Guerrero in your format. He contributes in the power categories without a huge SO penalty. He is an above average injury risk, but probably no more than Soriano or Manny.

 

[D_Rock]

Updating a few things right now...

 

[D_Rock]

I do not think paying that much for Utley would be wise.

Why is that? We just hopped in at 31...

 

[D_Rock]

FTR, we are targetting Kevin Youklis as our 1B...

Doesnt striekout a whole lot...good OBP...contributes in every category except SB's...

Seems like he could be a good value guy to me. And he can play mulitple positions.

 

[D_Rock]

You definitely should be in on Holliday, Soriano and Utley IMO. I would probably pay a decent amount above their current price.Soriano at $23 would be insane value, and I would probably take him for $33.

Probably not going to do anything with holiday.I am considering Alfonso. But I already hopped in on Utley at 31 bucks. I dont expect to win him though.

 

[D_Rock]

Holiday up to 29

Papelbon up to 23....

Utely up to 34...will probably lay off from here on out on him.

Dustin McGowan is on the market now...He is a good player, but I am extremely cautious with injuries and I dont like to take those chances. Of course, if I am in the bussiness of predicting injuries...yada yada yada

Still considering Soriano. Trying to get my brother to get on board. I also dont think I will win him for 23 if I do bid...but nobody else is stepping up.

 

[MAC_32]

I do not think paying that much for Utley would be wise.

Why is that? We just hopped in at 31...

You're investing a lot of $ on a guy that may miss 1+ month of the season and won't necessarily bounce back immediately upon his return. At this time I think he's too risky at that price. I'd rather wait and get a guy like Cano for $10-12.

 

[cheese]

Holiday up to 29

Papelbon up to 23....

Utely up to 34...will probably lay off from here on out on him.

Dustin McGowan is on the market now...He is a good player, but I am extremely cautious with injuries and I dont like to take those chances. Of course, if I am in the bussiness of predicting injuries...yada yada yada

Still considering Soriano. Trying to get my brother to get on board. I also dont think I will win him for 23 if I do bid...but nobody else is stepping up.

Is his problem with Soriano the additional categories (K's and OBP)? Just curious if I'm going to be able to steal him this cheaply in a 5X5.

 

[D_Rock]

Holiday up to 29

Papelbon up to 23....

Utely up to 34...will probably lay off from here on out on him.

Dustin McGowan is on the market now...He is a good player, but I am extremely cautious with injuries and I dont like to take those chances. Of course, if I am in the bussiness of predicting injuries...yada yada yada

Still considering Soriano. Trying to get my brother to get on board. I also dont think I will win him for 23 if I do bid...but nobody else is stepping up.

Is his problem with Soriano the additional categories (K's and OBP)? Just curious if I'm going to be able to steal him this cheaply in a 5X5.

The K's dont help, but they arent terrible.I think he is perceived as an injury risk...At least that is what he seems to think. We have had him the last 2 seasons and he got hurt, so maybe that sorta twists his perception...

 

[MAC_32]

Holiday up to 29

Papelbon up to 23....

Utely up to 34...will probably lay off from here on out on him.

Dustin McGowan is on the market now...He is a good player, but I am extremely cautious with injuries and I dont like to take those chances. Of course, if I am in the bussiness of predicting injuries...yada yada yada

Still considering Soriano. Trying to get my brother to get on board. I also dont think I will win him for 23 if I do bid...but nobody else is stepping up.

Is his problem with Soriano the additional categories (K's and OBP)? Just curious if I'm going to be able to steal him this cheaply in a 5X5.

The K's dont help, but they arent terrible.I think he is perceived as an injury risk...At least that is what he seems to think. We have had him the last 2 seasons and he got hurt, so maybe that sorta twists his perception...

Breaking a finger being hit by a pitch does not make one prone to any sort of injury risk.

 

[D_Rock]

Holiday up to 29

Papelbon up to 23....

Utely up to 34...will probably lay off from here on out on him.

Dustin McGowan is on the market now...He is a good player, but I am extremely cautious with injuries and I dont like to take those chances. Of course, if I am in the bussiness of predicting injuries...yada yada yada

Still considering Soriano. Trying to get my brother to get on board. I also dont think I will win him for 23 if I do bid...but nobody else is stepping up.

Is his problem with Soriano the additional categories (K's and OBP)? Just curious if I'm going to be able to steal him this cheaply in a 5X5.

The K's dont help, but they arent terrible.I think he is perceived as an injury risk...At least that is what he seems to think. We have had him the last 2 seasons and he got hurt, so maybe that sorta twists his perception...

Breaking a finger being hit by a pitch does not make one prone to any sort of injury risk.

I agree...but he had that bad hammy 2 years ago when he was hopping catching a routine flyball...My bro went off the deep end pissing and moaning about him. He is just a little gunshy at the moment.I am on board bidding on him...

 

[D_Rock]

We are in on Soriano at 24 bucks...

 

[Pip's Invitation]

We are in on Soriano at 24 bucks...

Good move. Given your extra categories, I wouldn't go more than $30 on him, but def. go to $27-28 if you have to. Agreed on not going too high on Utley, as much as I'm a Phils homer and love the guy. We just don't know how much time he's gonna miss, and 2B is pretty deep these days -- Kinsler, Pedroia, Phillips, Uggla, B. Roberts, Alexei Ramirez, etc.

 

[D_Rock]

Wright goes for more than ARod...I was surprised

Santana goes for way more than CC...another shock

Rivera is up to 20 BUCKS....

 

[D_Rock]

We looked at Jason Bay, but I dont think he is anywhere near being won. I think he will have a real good season though and he is about as riskless as they come IMO.

 

[cheese]

Peavy should land well over that $24, probably in CC's neighborhood ($29). I would be interested in Miguel Cabrera if he stays around where he is now. BTW, I think Howard is being seriously overvalued here.

 

[D_Rock]

Peavy should land well over that $24, probably in CC's neighborhood ($29). I would be interested in Miguel Cabrera if he stays around where he is now. BTW, I think Howard is being seriously overvalued here.

I think Peavy should go higher as well, but I am afraid he gets traded to Chicago or something where it is nearly as cozy as Petco Park.Also, Howard just got bid on AGAIN...up to 35 bucks.I am not a Miguel Cabrera fan. He is a lazy SOB.

 

[cheese]

Besides Manny (who is going to command serious auction $$ regardless) have you thought about nominating some guys without a team yet? Guys like Adam Dunn, Bobby Abreu, and Orlando Hudson could be solid buys right now. They're going to land on a team, and they'll almost definitely start for anyone they go to. I think you'd be able to get them at a discount just based on people not knowing which team they'll be on.

You haven't actually gotten anyone yet, right?

 

[D_Rock]

Besides Manny (who is going to command serious auction $$ regardless) have you thought about nominating some guys without a team yet? Guys like Adam Dunn, Bobby Abreu, and Orlando Hudson could be solid buys right now. They're going to land on a team, and they'll almost definitely start for anyone they go to. I think you'd be able to get them at a discount just based on people not knowing which team they'll be on. You haven't actually gotten anyone yet, right?

Well Manny is already on the market...We were thinking about this strategy, but havent decided WHO to nominate. We are both Cincinnatians, so we dont want that ###hat Adam Dunn and he would seriously jeapordize our K's category.I think Orlando Hudson would be a monumental steal, but I have a feeling people will see right through that this early.Maybe next week when the draft is no longer in the "early stages" this plan would work.We dont have anyone yet...maybe I should start a post with everyone's teams.One dude has Papelbon and Mariano Rivera and a total of 46 bucks...Nearly a fifth of his cap for one category. He also has David Wright. Guy is gonna be needing a welfare check soon.Another guy has Josh Hamilton and Ryan Braun. Another has Arod and CC. I think we may get Cueto for 9 bucks and we are winning for Teixiera at the moment, but dont plan on winning him to be honest. I wont spend that much at a deep position like 1B. Especially when we like Youkilis, Votto, Davis, etc...Although i am braves fan and I LOVE me some Tex Mex.

 

[MAC_32]

Besides Manny (who is going to command serious auction $$ regardless) have you thought about nominating some guys without a team yet? Guys like Adam Dunn, Bobby Abreu, and Orlando Hudson could be solid buys right now. They're going to land on a team, and they'll almost definitely start for anyone they go to. I think you'd be able to get them at a discount just based on people not knowing which team they'll be on. You haven't actually gotten anyone yet, right?

Well Manny is already on the market...We were thinking about this strategy, but havent decided WHO to nominate. We are both Cincinnatians, so we dont want that ###hat Adam Dunn and he would seriously jeapordize our K's category.I think Orlando Hudson would be a monumental steal, but I have a feeling people will see right through that this early.Maybe next week when the draft is no longer in the "early stages" this plan would work.We dont have anyone yet...maybe I should start a post with everyone's teams.One dude has Papelbon and Mariano Rivera and a total of 46 bucks...Nearly a fifth of his cap for one category. He also has David Wright. Guy is gonna be needing a welfare check soon.Another guy has Josh Hamilton and Ryan Braun. Another has Arod and CC. I think we may get Cueto for 9 bucks and we are winning for Teixiera at the moment, but dont plan on winning him to be honest. I wont spend that much at a deep position like 1B. Especially when we like Youkilis, Votto, Davis, etc...Although i am braves fan and I LOVE me some Tex Mex.

Youk and Davis should be 3B eligible, they have much more value at 3B than 1B. I wouldn't plan on using my 1B spot on either of them, Garrett Atkins too.I would seriously consider slightly over paying for a 1B, the top end guys are studly, the back end not so much. Votto is really the only guy bargain 1B (before you get to the < $5 talent), I don't know if most of your competition is, too, from Cincy or if it's online but if you're up against other Reds homers he'll probably cost more than he's worth. He may go for too much regardless, it just takes one other person targetting Votto to mess up that plan.

 

[D_Rock]

Besides Manny (who is going to command serious auction $$ regardless) have you thought about nominating some guys without a team yet? Guys like Adam Dunn, Bobby Abreu, and Orlando Hudson could be solid buys right now. They're going to land on a team, and they'll almost definitely start for anyone they go to. I think you'd be able to get them at a discount just based on people not knowing which team they'll be on. You haven't actually gotten anyone yet, right?

Well Manny is already on the market...We were thinking about this strategy, but havent decided WHO to nominate. We are both Cincinnatians, so we dont want that ###hat Adam Dunn and he would seriously jeapordize our K's category.I think Orlando Hudson would be a monumental steal, but I have a feeling people will see right through that this early.Maybe next week when the draft is no longer in the "early stages" this plan would work.We dont have anyone yet...maybe I should start a post with everyone's teams.One dude has Papelbon and Mariano Rivera and a total of 46 bucks...Nearly a fifth of his cap for one category. He also has David Wright. Guy is gonna be needing a welfare check soon.Another guy has Josh Hamilton and Ryan Braun. Another has Arod and CC. I think we may get Cueto for 9 bucks and we are winning for Teixiera at the moment, but dont plan on winning him to be honest. I wont spend that much at a deep position like 1B. Especially when we like Youkilis, Votto, Davis, etc...Although i am braves fan and I LOVE me some Tex Mex.

Youk and Davis should be 3B eligible, they have much more value at 3B than 1B. I wouldn't plan on using my 1B spot on either of them, Garrett Atkins too.I would seriously consider slightly over paying for a 1B, the top end guys are studly, the back end not so much. Votto is really the only guy bargain 1B (before you get to the < $5 talent), I don't know if most of your competition is, too, from Cincy or if it's online but if you're up against other Reds homers he'll probably cost more than he's worth. He may go for too much regardless, it just takes one other person targetting Votto to mess up that plan.

Good thought. There is one other guy from Cincy, but that is it. People are from everywhere. When you say top 1B talent, where do you think that cuts off? Here are the way I have em ranked.AlbertTeixieraHowardCabreraMorneauBerkmanFielderYoukilisGonzalezDavisVottoLeeAtkinsJust looking at it....Between Berkman and Fielder? I am starting to really like Tex Mex and his lack of K's.

 

[MAC_32]

Besides Manny (who is going to command serious auction $$ regardless) have you thought about nominating some guys without a team yet? Guys like Adam Dunn, Bobby Abreu, and Orlando Hudson could be solid buys right now. They're going to land on a team, and they'll almost definitely start for anyone they go to. I think you'd be able to get them at a discount just based on people not knowing which team they'll be on. You haven't actually gotten anyone yet, right?

Well Manny is already on the market...We were thinking about this strategy, but havent decided WHO to nominate. We are both Cincinnatians, so we dont want that ###hat Adam Dunn and he would seriously jeapordize our K's category.I think Orlando Hudson would be a monumental steal, but I have a feeling people will see right through that this early.Maybe next week when the draft is no longer in the "early stages" this plan would work.We dont have anyone yet...maybe I should start a post with everyone's teams.One dude has Papelbon and Mariano Rivera and a total of 46 bucks...Nearly a fifth of his cap for one category. He also has David Wright. Guy is gonna be needing a welfare check soon.Another guy has Josh Hamilton and Ryan Braun. Another has Arod and CC. I think we may get Cueto for 9 bucks and we are winning for Teixiera at the moment, but dont plan on winning him to be honest. I wont spend that much at a deep position like 1B. Especially when we like Youkilis, Votto, Davis, etc...Although i am braves fan and I LOVE me some Tex Mex.

Youk and Davis should be 3B eligible, they have much more value at 3B than 1B. I wouldn't plan on using my 1B spot on either of them, Garrett Atkins too.I would seriously consider slightly over paying for a 1B, the top end guys are studly, the back end not so much. Votto is really the only guy bargain 1B (before you get to the < $5 talent), I don't know if most of your competition is, too, from Cincy or if it's online but if you're up against other Reds homers he'll probably cost more than he's worth. He may go for too much regardless, it just takes one other person targetting Votto to mess up that plan.

Good thought. There is one other guy from Cincy, but that is it. People are from everywhere. When you say top 1B talent, where do you think that cuts off? Here are the way I have em ranked.AlbertTeixieraHowardCabreraMorneauBerkmanFielderYoukilisGonzalezDavisVottoLeeAtkinsJust looking at it....Between Berkman and Fielder? I am starting to really like Tex Mex and his lack of K's.

I would push hard for Tex, he's 4th or 5th most places on the web. I have him 3rd behind Pujols and Miggy.I think the tier 1 1B's end at Prince.

 

[D_Rock]

Besides Manny (who is going to command serious auction $$ regardless) have you thought about nominating some guys without a team yet? Guys like Adam Dunn, Bobby Abreu, and Orlando Hudson could be solid buys right now. They're going to land on a team, and they'll almost definitely start for anyone they go to. I think you'd be able to get them at a discount just based on people not knowing which team they'll be on. You haven't actually gotten anyone yet, right?

Well Manny is already on the market...We were thinking about this strategy, but havent decided WHO to nominate. We are both Cincinnatians, so we dont want that ###hat Adam Dunn and he would seriously jeapordize our K's category.I think Orlando Hudson would be a monumental steal, but I have a feeling people will see right through that this early.Maybe next week when the draft is no longer in the "early stages" this plan would work.We dont have anyone yet...maybe I should start a post with everyone's teams.One dude has Papelbon and Mariano Rivera and a total of 46 bucks...Nearly a fifth of his cap for one category. He also has David Wright. Guy is gonna be needing a welfare check soon.Another guy has Josh Hamilton and Ryan Braun. Another has Arod and CC. I think we may get Cueto for 9 bucks and we are winning for Teixiera at the moment, but dont plan on winning him to be honest. I wont spend that much at a deep position like 1B. Especially when we like Youkilis, Votto, Davis, etc...Although i am braves fan and I LOVE me some Tex Mex.

Youk and Davis should be 3B eligible, they have much more value at 3B than 1B. I wouldn't plan on using my 1B spot on either of them, Garrett Atkins too.I would seriously consider slightly over paying for a 1B, the top end guys are studly, the back end not so much. Votto is really the only guy bargain 1B (before you get to the < $5 talent), I don't know if most of your competition is, too, from Cincy or if it's online but if you're up against other Reds homers he'll probably cost more than he's worth. He may go for too much regardless, it just takes one other person targetting Votto to mess up that plan.

Good thought. There is one other guy from Cincy, but that is it. People are from everywhere. When you say top 1B talent, where do you think that cuts off? Here are the way I have em ranked.AlbertTeixieraHowardCabreraMorneauBerkmanFielderYoukilisGonzalezDavisVottoLeeAtkinsJust looking at it....Between Berkman and Fielder? I am starting to really like Tex Mex and his lack of K's.

I would push hard for Tex, he's 4th or 5th most places on the web. I have him 3rd behind Pujols and Miggy.I think the tier 1 1B's end at Prince.

40 dollars? Maybe I am frugal like the reds, but doesnt it seem like Morneau or Derrek Lee will go formuch cheaper and barely be a drop off?I am a cheapskate.

 

[D_Rock]

Lots of players coming off the board tonight as there hasnt been much action. Gonna be some new situations tomorrow.

Talking to my brother right now about Teixiera....I think 40 dollars for anyone is too much. But we are discussing it.

 

[D_Rock]

Things just got started this morning, so some of those numbers are a little low.

We are thinking about nominating Orlando Hudson here, just gotta wait for my bro to wake up so we can talk it over. I heard rumors the Yankees are looking at him and looking to trade Cano...THAT WOULD BE A DREAM TICKET.

 

[D_Rock]

It should be noted I think...

Johnny Damon has had the slowest clime to 22 dollars EVER. Seems like he has been getting down to an hour or two left since about 10 bucks. To me this means, in a quick auction he will go much cheaper. Just the perception of him is that he is slowing down, but he put up real good numbers last year.

.303- BA

17- HR

71- RBI

29- SB

95- R

.375- OBP

Pretty solid numbers for someone that a lot of people think is "on the decline"

 

[D_Rock]

Manny got bid on with 2 minutes left...

People are clearly stalling with him trying to buy time until he signs somewhere.

 

[guru_007]

wow, Lincecum is highest priced pitcher?

Bring up pitchers early and often in an auction. People always overbid on pitching (and in your format, a starting pitcher only helps in 5/14 cats - 35% of scoring, as opposed to a standard 5x5 league where they account for 4/10 cats - 40%)

 

[D_Rock]

wow, Lincecum is highest priced pitcher? Bring up pitchers early and often in an auction. People always overbid on pitching (and in your format, a starting pitcher only helps in 5/14 cats - 35% of scoring, as opposed to a standard 5x5 league where they account for 4/10 cats - 40%)

I keep nominating closers...Nathan was my latest.Lincencum is nowhere near done it doesnt look like...His thread is being visitied early and often.

 

[D_Rock]

JJ Hardy for 21 dollars is a ripoff IMO

Ichiro is overvalued IMO as well at 32.

I think we got a good deal with Rollins at 38 (Reyes-44 Hanley- 48)...And an unbelievable deal with Chris Davis at 26. But maybe I am dreaming.

Sheets already may need surgery...oof

I think Cole Hamels was overpriced and really? 26 bucks for Votto in the blink of an eye??? Cripes.

 

[guru_007]

JJ Hardy for 21 dollars is a ripoff IMOIchiro is overvalued IMO as well at 32.I think we got a good deal with Rollins at 38 (Reyes-44 Hanley- 48)...And an unbelievable deal with Chris Davis at 26. But maybe I am dreaming.Sheets already may need surgery...oofI think Cole Hamels was overpriced and really? 26 bucks for Votto in the blink of an eye??? Cripes.

agree with the overvalues, but I pretty much hate Rollins at 38. He's on the wrong side of 30, has only had more than 15 homers in a season twice and has never had more than 50 sb's. Ramirez just turned 25 and averages over 25 homers and about 50 sb's per season (and is getting better) and Reyes is 25, and averages over 60 sb's per season. I think they're all overpriced, but I'd rather not take a chance with the guy I'm spending the most of my budget on (happen to see Rollins 2009? .277, 76 runs, 11 hr's, 59 rbis in over 550 ab's).Chris Davis is also high at 26 bucks, imo. I know you have to pay for potential, but I'm always willing to let someone else pay for a year or two and make a believer out of me.