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So has Edge Lost all Goalline Carries? (1 Viewer)
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Macdaddy_2004
Footballguy
it looks like it to me - one GL opp against the 9ers and Hightower got it.
bigfeet_88
Footballguy
Edge did have a few opportunities inside the 10 on a couple drives. One ended in a FG and another a 1 yard td to Fitz.
Was Edge in the game on the 1st and goal from the 1 yard line? I was so pissed that the Cards passed, I didn't really take the time to look.
Hightower also came in on a 4th and 1 situation late in the game. As an Edge owner, I'm hoping the Hightower thing is coincidence. Surprised, there not more discussion around about this.
satch
Footballguy
From what I've seen, it's fairly evident that Hightower is going to be the goal line back, and also spell Edge when necessary. It makes sense from every angle. Edge does the work to get down there, then they bring in a strong running, fresh legged Hightower to punch it in. Edge never had a problem letting someone else get the TD's in the past, so it's safe to assume he won't mind letting the rookie get a few. It keeps Edge from taking that goal line pounding, and reduces injury risk to a RB who likely thinks about that more than ever. Everyone wins.
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JGalligan
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The Cardinals are playing the Dolphins this week -- so main GLB or not, I think Edge will punch in at least one TD.
But I think Hightower has the edge as the teams primary GLB, but as long as Edge can prove he can still get into the end zone, he'll still get some GL carries.
But I think Hightower has the edge as the teams primary GLB, but as long as Edge can prove he can still get into the end zone, he'll still get some GL carries.
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Ketamine Dreams
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Fixed
Saint
Footballguy
Here's some interesting stats from play-by-play:
1st Qtr: 2-7-SF 7 (11:46) 32-E.James right end pushed ob at SF 7 for no gain (52-P.Willis; 32-M.Lewis).
2nd Qtr: 1-10-SF 44 (12:03) 34-T.Hightower right guard to SF 41 for 3 yards (52-P.Willis).
2nd Qtr: 2-6-SF 41 (7:29) 34-T.Hightower right tackle to SF 41 for no gain (94-J.Smith).
2nd Qtr: 3-13-ARI 17 (1:01) (Shotgun) 34-T.Hightower up the middle to ARI 18 for 1 yard (94-J.Smith; 98-P.Haralson).
3rd Qtr: 2-8-SF 8 (9:48) 32-E.James right tackle to SF 6 for 2 yards (99-M.Lawson).
3rd Qtr: 2-9-SF 10 (5:03) 34-T.Hightower up the middle to SF 5 for 5 yards (92-A.Franklin).
3rd Qtr: 4-1-SF 2 (4:06) 34-T.Hightower up the middle for 2 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
4th Qtr: 1-10-SF 14 (3:39) 34-T.Hightower up the middle to SF 12 for 2 yards (26-M.Roman).
4th Qtr: 2-8-SF 12 (2:57) 34-T.Hightower up the middle to SF 14 for -2 yards (51-T.Spikes).
4th Qtr: 3-10-SF 14 (2:10) 32-E.James up the middle to SF 12 for 2 yards (93-R.Fields; 90-I.Sopoaga).If you look at the various usage. Edge was used inside the SF 10 several times. Hightower was used between the 20s a couple of times. It looks like when they were in, they played a whole series. The Hightower TD was the series where he was in.
I don't see how we can conclude that Hightower is a TD vulcher. Based on the play-by-play, ARI throws the ball on 3rd down. The plays inside the SF 10 where Edge was running the ball, typically ended in a 3rd down sack for Warner. The series where Hightower was in, they got 4 yds on 3rd-5, and had Hightower run the 1-yd since he was already in.
IMO, jury still out.
1st Qtr: 2-7-SF 7 (11:46) 32-E.James right end pushed ob at SF 7 for no gain (52-P.Willis; 32-M.Lewis).
2nd Qtr: 1-10-SF 44 (12:03) 34-T.Hightower right guard to SF 41 for 3 yards (52-P.Willis).
2nd Qtr: 2-6-SF 41 (7:29) 34-T.Hightower right tackle to SF 41 for no gain (94-J.Smith).
2nd Qtr: 3-13-ARI 17 (1:01) (Shotgun) 34-T.Hightower up the middle to ARI 18 for 1 yard (94-J.Smith; 98-P.Haralson).
3rd Qtr: 2-8-SF 8 (9:48) 32-E.James right tackle to SF 6 for 2 yards (99-M.Lawson).
3rd Qtr: 2-9-SF 10 (5:03) 34-T.Hightower up the middle to SF 5 for 5 yards (92-A.Franklin).
3rd Qtr: 4-1-SF 2 (4:06) 34-T.Hightower up the middle for 2 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
4th Qtr: 1-10-SF 14 (3:39) 34-T.Hightower up the middle to SF 12 for 2 yards (26-M.Roman).
4th Qtr: 2-8-SF 12 (2:57) 34-T.Hightower up the middle to SF 14 for -2 yards (51-T.Spikes).
4th Qtr: 3-10-SF 14 (2:10) 32-E.James up the middle to SF 12 for 2 yards (93-R.Fields; 90-I.Sopoaga).If you look at the various usage. Edge was used inside the SF 10 several times. Hightower was used between the 20s a couple of times. It looks like when they were in, they played a whole series. The Hightower TD was the series where he was in.
I don't see how we can conclude that Hightower is a TD vulcher. Based on the play-by-play, ARI throws the ball on 3rd down. The plays inside the SF 10 where Edge was running the ball, typically ended in a 3rd down sack for Warner. The series where Hightower was in, they got 4 yds on 3rd-5, and had Hightower run the 1-yd since he was already in.
IMO, jury still out.
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Scooby1974
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I seem to remember a quote from AZ personnel in the TIM HIGHTOWER Thread that said something to the tune of Hightower being the "official" goal line and short yardage back. I'll go look for it and report back.
Looks like Hightower will get the short yardage carries, but Edge will still get enough carries in the red zone to score 4-6 TDs this year.
Scooby1974
Footballguy
This is all I found in the Hightower thread...
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Arizona
Aug. 29, 2008
Cardinals rookie RB Hightower making strong impression
Back when he was the Steelers’ offensive coordinator, there was no denying Cardinals head coach Ken Whisenhunt’s fondness for the two-back system, the best example being the 2005 season, when veteran Jerome Bettis provided a very effective counterpunch to the younger and faster Willie Parker. The way we hear it, the Cardinals quietly are salivating over the potential this coming season of a two-back attack featuring veteran Edgerrin James, in his customary featured role, and rookie Tim Hightower, in an enticing supporting role. With most of the focus in the desert this preseason on whether or not Matt Leinart or Kurt Warner will be the starting QB, as well as disgruntled WR Anquan Boldin’s contract concerns, the steady emergence of Hightower has been relatively overlooked — but certainly not by Whisenhunt, offensive coordinator Todd Haley or especially RB coach Maurice Carthon, who we hear was instantly impressed by the fifth-round rookie out of Richmond. Team insiders tell us they could see Hightower, who has shown a surprisingly quick burst and big-play ability, getting as many as 8-10 carries per game as a change-of-pace complement to James. Daily team observers also tell us the offensive line’s improved run blocking also could be considered legitimate reason for optimism.
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Arizona
Aug. 29, 2008
Cardinals rookie RB Hightower making strong impression
Back when he was the Steelers’ offensive coordinator, there was no denying Cardinals head coach Ken Whisenhunt’s fondness for the two-back system, the best example being the 2005 season, when veteran Jerome Bettis provided a very effective counterpunch to the younger and faster Willie Parker. The way we hear it, the Cardinals quietly are salivating over the potential this coming season of a two-back attack featuring veteran Edgerrin James, in his customary featured role, and rookie Tim Hightower, in an enticing supporting role. With most of the focus in the desert this preseason on whether or not Matt Leinart or Kurt Warner will be the starting QB, as well as disgruntled WR Anquan Boldin’s contract concerns, the steady emergence of Hightower has been relatively overlooked — but certainly not by Whisenhunt, offensive coordinator Todd Haley or especially RB coach Maurice Carthon, who we hear was instantly impressed by the fifth-round rookie out of Richmond. Team insiders tell us they could see Hightower, who has shown a surprisingly quick burst and big-play ability, getting as many as 8-10 carries per game as a change-of-pace complement to James. Daily team observers also tell us the offensive line’s improved run blocking also could be considered legitimate reason for optimism.
bigfeet_88
Footballguy
I can't remember. I did go to nfl.com and look at the highlights on that td pass. Can't tell for sure, but it doesn't look like edge. Almost looks like Arrington. Was a 3 wide spread formation.corndog said:
