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RokNRole said:
It's not just about a pony. She shouldn't want for anything. Neither should my sister. I should be able to buy them a house and give them everything but I can't so I feel like a failure.
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I'm willing to bet that they could care less about things, houses, animals, etc. I'm sure the biggest gift you can give them is and will always be to turn your life around. I'd rather my brother be healthy and happy in his life than him giving me a mansion with a million $s. Seriously. I have gone to bat for my bro in the past and he's had my back as well. We are a team. We only have each other, even though both our parents are alive and well. But we went through lots of stuff growing up and we stuck together, like you and your sis have. You have that bond, and you have each other. But like you say, you need to straighten up before you can really become involved with their lives. Just think about it. You hold the keys to heading in that direction. I can tell you want to be closer to your sister, and of course your gorgeous niece. I can tell you that if I didn't have my bro at times, I probably wouldn't be here myself. He's literally saved me a time or two. That's the way it should be with siblings, esp if it's just the 2 of you. Your sis wants you to be healthy. No one wants to see their loved one self destruct. I'm sure that hurts her more than anything esp after everything you've been through. Make that a goal to works toward. I know I'd be absolutely crushed beyond belief if my bro was self destructing right before my eyes..

 
Rok you obviously have a good heart and have had a rough life.  Last night I tried to give you some advice which you took as me being a "meathead."  I didn't mean it to come off that way, I was trying to motivate you to take control of your life since you probably feel like you have never had that.  Perhaps I was mistaken in going that route.  I would, however, suggest you may want to reach out to your sister and her family.  Just maybe meet for dinner once.  Family is bond, and she probably understands you better than anyone else in the world.  

Also, spoiling a child with money and possessions is far less valuable than spoiling her with love and attention.  Maybe you can do that.

 
It barely broke the skin and left a small hole in my jeans. He's very handy and sewed up the hole in minutes. It bled a little but by the next day when he took me home I wasn't bleeding. I was at the age of bathing myself so my mother never noticed a hole in my pants or a hole on my thigh.

 
Frostillicus said:
Rok you obviously have a good heart and have had a rough life.  Last night I tried to give you some advice which you took as me being a "meathead."  I didn't mean it to come off that way, I was trying to motivate you to take control of your life since you probably feel like you have never had that.  Perhaps I was mistaken in going that route.  I would, however, suggest you may want to reach out to your sister and her family.  Just maybe meet for dinner once.  Family is bond, and she probably understands you better than anyone else in the world.  

Also, spoiling a child with money and possessions is far less valuable than spoiling her with love and attention.  Maybe you can do that.
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I don't think you are a meathead. I'm just as much of a meathead when I drink. I feel like I have to be superman and fix everything wrong in the world. That's all my father left me with. "Be perfect. Make money. That's a man".

its not you dude it's my own problems. It means a lot to just to try to apologize. It doesn't even matter how you did it. 

 
Frostillicus said:
Rok you obviously have a good heart and have had a rough life.  Last night I tried to give you some advice which you took as me being a "meathead."  I didn't mean it to come off that way, I was trying to motivate you to take control of your life since you probably feel like you have never had that.  Perhaps I was mistaken in going that route.  I would, however, suggest you may want to reach out to your sister and her family.  Just maybe meet for dinner once.  Family is bond, and she probably understands you better than anyone else in the world.  

Also, spoiling a child with money and possessions is far less valuable than spoiling her with love and attention.  Maybe you can do that.
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Don't know how long it's been since he's seen his sis but not a bad idea to have her come visit or for him to go visit. This may be the very thing that leads Rok to think this is it, I'm going to do it for my sis, my niece, as well as for myself.

 
RokNRole said:
I don't think you are a meathead. I'm just as much of a meathead when I drink. I feel like I have to be superman and fix everything wrong in the world. That's all my father left me with. "Be perfect. Make money. That's a man".

its not you dude it's my own problems. It means a lot to just to try to apologize. It doesn't even matter how you did it. 
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Reach out to your sister.  At one point in time, you were her champion, believe it or not.  She would probably bend over backwards to help you.  

 
Frostillicus said:
Rok you obviously have a good heart and have had a rough life.  Last night I tried to give you some advice which you took as me being a "meathead."  I didn't mean it to come off that way, I was trying to motivate you to take control of your life since you probably feel like you have never had that.  Perhaps I was mistaken in going that route.  I would, however, suggest you may want to reach out to your sister and her family.  Just maybe meet for dinner once.  Family is bond, and she probably understands you better than anyone else in the world.  

Also, spoiling a child with money and possessions is far less valuable than spoiling her with love and attention.  Maybe you can do that.
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Maybe one day I can spoil her with love but I know she gets enough now.

I want to spoil her. She deserves it.

 
Frostillicus said:
Reach out to your sister.  At one point in time, you were her champion, believe it or not.  She would probably bend over backwards to help you.  
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I always protected her. When she was growing up she got involved with some shady guys that I learned were just looking to get laid. I went out to each of their houses and let them know if they ever hurt my sister I will kill them.

One guy even got on his knees in the street and begged me to shake his hand . I had learned he had a history of " hitting it and quiting it". I shook his hand and told him to stand up and just stop what he was doing to girls in the neighborhood. He was handsome and I could see why he was doing what he was doing but I never heard about that guy from anyone again. He was far more afraid than I was even trying to make him. I felt bad about that.

 
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RokNRole said:
I always protected her. When she was growing up she got involved with some shady guys that I learned were just looking to get laid. I went out to each of their houses and let them know if they ever hurt my sister I will kill them.

One guy even got on his knees in the street and begged me to shake his hand . I had learned he had a history of " hitting it and quiting it". I shook his hand and told him to stand up and just stop what he was doing to girls in the neighborhood. He was handsome and I could see why he was doing what he was doing but I never heard about that guy from anyone again. He was far more afraid than I was even trying to make him. I felt bad about that.
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Right.  So make her your family again.  If you ignore all your other issues and make yourself family with her and her family again, all the rest will get better.  I truly believe this.

 
I basically told him

" if I ever find out you ####ed my sister and broke her heart I will come back and your blood will stain the pavement"

She was so mad at me after making that guy go away. Didn't talk to me for two weeks. Eventually she got over it and met her future husband. He's such a good guy and I'm so happy they met eachother. I would do anything for him just as I would for her.

 
Frostillicus said:
Right.  So make her your family again.  If you ignore all your other issues and make yourself family with her and her family again, all the rest will get better.  I truly believe this.
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Our relationship is very good. I've always been transparent with her and she understands where I'm coming from.

i reached out to her tonight and told her how much I love her and my niece

 
RokNRole said:
Our relationship is very good. I've always been transparent with her and she understands where I'm coming from.

i reached out to her tonight and told her how much I love her and my niece
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This is a fantastic step.  I encourage you strongly to follow up on it. Nobody can understand you like family.

 
OrtonToOlsen said:
Don't get me wrong.  They were great for their time.  I was a big fan.  They just didn't age well I guess.

I saw them at the Paladium with Pixies and Primus.  Primus was rather boring in a "gotta be stoned jam-band" kinda way.

JA was good but that was the show where Perry got hit with a Birkenstock so they didn't do an encore IIRC.

Pixies were awesome.  Sadly, most of the crowd was there for JA.
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one and only time i dived off the stage.  pretty fun.  

during JA, i like to think i saved a chicks life.  i was front row, getting crushed against the barriers and felt something squirming around my feet.  i reached down and grabbed a fist full of hair and started pulling with all my might.  the crush of humanity and the gnarly ### mosh pit behind us was creating enough crushing force that it took a few minutes to pull this chick upright.  it was reminiscent of birth as her head crowned between the rail and my junk.  after i got her upright, i decided to get her to the relative safety of the bar and see if she was willing to repay me for saving her life.  she wasn't.  dumb whoooore. :pickle:   i left shortly afterwards , because, JA.  

 
CurlyNight said:
I'm willing to bet that they could care less about things, houses, animals, etc. I'm sure the biggest gift you can give them is and will always be to turn your life around. I'd rather my brother be healthy and happy in his life than him giving me a mansion with a million $s. Seriously. I have gone to bat for my bro in the past and he's had my back as well. We are a team. We only have each other, even though both our parents are alive and well. But we went through lots of stuff growing up and we stuck together, like you and your sis have. You have that bond, and you have each other. But like you say, you need to straighten up before you can really become involved with their lives. Just think about it. You hold the keys to heading in that direction. I can tell you want to be closer to your sister, and of course your gorgeous niece. I can tell you that if I didn't have my bro at times, I probably wouldn't be here myself. He's literally saved me a time or two. That's the way it should be with siblings, esp if it's just the 2 of you. Your sis wants you to be healthy. No one wants to see their loved one self destruct. I'm sure that hurts her more than anything esp after everything you've been through. Make that a goal to works toward. I know I'd be absolutely crushed beyond belief if my bro was self destructing right before my eyes..
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She has been I'm sure. Never let on if she was but I can tell she cares. I love her too more than myself.

i know it's not all about money but I still want to spoil the hell out of them.

 
DA RAIDERS said:
one and only time i dived off the stage.  pretty fun.  

during JA, i like to think i saved a chicks life.  i was front row, getting crushed against the barriers and felt something squirming around my feet.  i reached down and grabbed a fist full of hair and started pulling with all my might.  the crush of humanity and the gnarly ### mosh pit behind us was creating enough crushing force that it took a few minutes to pull this chick upright.  it was reminiscent of birth as her head crowned between the rail and my junk.  after i got her upright, i decided to get her to the relative safety of the bar and see if she was willing to repay me for saving her life.  she wasn't.  dumb whoooore. :pickle:   i left shortly afterwards , because, JA.  
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Noice.

my buddy Quintin can be seen in at the 2:15 mark of this vid.  I chose not to deal with the crowd/pit because it was too far from the beer.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx6691i0KDE.  His head is just over the guy in the light shirt's shoulder.  Just above the bald guy.  Pretty big deal I guess.

 
DA RAIDERS said:
one and only time i dived off the stage.  pretty fun.  

during JA, i like to think i saved a chicks life.  i was front row, getting crushed against the barriers and felt something squirming around my feet.  i reached down and grabbed a fist full of hair and started pulling with all my might.  the crush of humanity and the gnarly ### mosh pit behind us was creating enough crushing force that it took a few minutes to pull this chick upright.  it was reminiscent of birth as her head crowned between the rail and my junk.  after i got her upright, i decided to get her to the relative safety of the bar and see if she was willing to repay me for saving her life.  she wasn't.  dumb whoooore. :pickle:   i left shortly afterwards , because, JA.  
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This isn't just my thread. It's for anyone feeling down and I'm not the kind of person to feel like restricting anyone. But you guys have been going on about Janes Addiction because I mentioned my drunk , whore mother would listen to it. I've been reading this exchange and I never got upset until I thought about if someone else would have expressed some deep experiences and if you guys would have gone on the same.

What the hell is wrong with you? 

 
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I'm very happy some of you are having a conversation about Janes Addiction/RHCP. I'm also very offended given the context of which I mentioned it and where it was taken.

This is precisely why I don't talk to anyone and I feel like a fool for even expressing myself. If you want to make a mockery of my life story that's fine, I can handle it. I may as well end this thread tonight if it's going to turn in to a conversation about a mediocre band.

Even I would never stoop that low no matter how much I drank. It's shameful.

 
it took a lot of guts and heart to share your story.   Use that guts and heart and meet up with your sis some how.  Just love them.  The rest will come around.  Don't go any where or do anything that reminds you of your past.  Create new memories you can build off of that are positive.  don't drink the day before you go or the day you go. That niece will then have a positive, lasting memory of her uncle.  

 
I'm ready to delete this thread now. Not because I'm being mocked but because one day another person may talk about serious memories and they may be mocked too . I'm ready to delete this thread and turn my back on " humanity".

Ive heard I have the ability to delete this thread myself. How do I do so?

 
Getzlaf15 said:
it took a lot of guts and heart to share your story.   Use that guts and heart and meet up with your sis some how.  Just love them.  The rest will come around.  Don't go any where or do anything that reminds you of your past.  Create new memories you can build off of that are positive.  don't drink the day before you go or the day you go. That niece will then have a positive, lasting memory of her uncle.  
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F it all. Let's just start a thread about the chili peppers and I'll get lost.

Then everyone can be happy.

 
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Wooderson said:
At the top it says moderation action. Click on that. 
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Thanks. I see it. This thread is going on the toilet where it belongs in a couple days. I'm only leaving it up for a couple days because some people may want to read it and then that's it.

Enjoy the new RHCPs thread.

 
Frostillicus said:
Apparently. 
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I told my story. One detail of it was my alcoholic mother would play Janes Addiction for hours on end. This turned in to several people discussing Janes Addiction and concerts they have been to. And not just any characters but some people I trusted. Even I wouldn't do something like that in my darkest hour. Not while someone was telling their deepest memories.

I no longer see any reason to be a good person and I'm not going to stress it anymore. The world can burn in hell and this thread is dead on 8/14/17. This is the last time I make a fool of myself.

 
RokNRole said:
I told my story. One detail of it was my alcoholic mother would play Janes Addiction for hours on end. This turned in to several people discussing Janes Addiction and concerts they have been to. And not just any characters but some people I trusted. Even I wouldn't do something like that in my darkest hour. Not while someone was telling their deepest memories.

I no longer see any reason to be a good person and I'm not going to stress it anymore. The world can burn in hell and this thread is dead on 8/14/17. This is the last time I make a fool of myself.
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This makes no sense. Nobody stays on topic in a thread. Evil grin and tanner discussing a band is in no way a sleight to you. 

 
It's simply not something I would do given the gravity of the conversation. I'm a hateful alcoholic and if it's something even I wouldn't do then it's very low. The world, humanity and everyone can burn in hell. It's the last time I will ever make a fool of myself and in one week it goes to the nether.

 
RokNRole said:
Thanks. I see it. This thread is going on the toilet where it belongs in a couple days. I'm only leaving it up for a couple days because some people may want to read it and then that's it.

Enjoy the new RHCPs thread.
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I don't understand how you are upset by this thread but still want to give people a couple days maybe a week to read the thread updates.  

 
First of all Rok--thank you for sharing the story and some memories from your past.  I personally found them to be riveting and it reinforces my belief that you a good person that is just a bit lost and that is battling some demons.  I also agree with you that it was pretty rude and out of place for some posters to discuss their music and concert memories while you are spilling your guts to us--but the best advice that I can give you is to care only about the things that you have a hand in controlling.  This is a public forum--and with a public forum--there will be some poor behavior.  If I got upset or offended anytime somebody acted poorly-- I'd be in an asylum.  If this thread is doing you more good than it is harm--you just have to learn to ignore the negative and focus on the positive.   

I personally think that you should keep this thread open for a couple of reasons.  Last night I challenged you to take whatever first step you could to move towards getting yourself right.   This morning I was upset to see you going back and forth with some posters again.  However--when I got back on recently and read through the thread--I also saw that you acknowledged that your behavior and attitude when drunk is pretty disgusting and you and a poster that you referred to as a "meathead" made amends.  That was cool to see.   

Reading through your stories--one thing that is clear in my mind is that you have many reasons and motivations to get yourself right.  Really--your beautiful niece alone is enough motivation to want to move things in the right direction.  Your sister also seems like a fantastic person. Your childhood was definitely far from perfect--but don't forget that you still have a lot of people counting on you to get yourself right.   You aren't just doing it for yourself--you're doing it for that fantastic little girl.   Thank you again for sharing--and once again..good luck. 

 
RokNRole said:
Of course not. It just opened my eyes to the depravity of the human race.
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Well that's it for me. You take everything as a slight but refuse to listen to anyone trying to help. Good luck to you and I truly mean it. 

Get in contact with your sister. That is the best thing you could do. 

 
jvdesigns2002 said:
First of all Rok--thank you for sharing the story and some memories from your past.  I personally found them to be riveting and it reinforces my belief that you a good person that is just a bit lost and that is battling some demons.  I also agree with you that it was pretty rude and out of place for some posters to discuss their music and concert memories while you are spilling your guts to us--but the best advice that I can give you is to care only about the things that you have a hand in controlling.  This is a public forum--and with a public forum--there will be some poor behavior.  If I got upset or offended anytime somebody acted poorly-- I'd be in an asylum.  If this thread is doing you more good than it is harm--you just have to learn to ignore the negative and focus on the positive.   

I personally think that you should keep this thread open for a couple of reasons.  Last night I challenged you to take whatever first step you could to move towards getting yourself right.   This morning I was upset to see you going back and forth with some posters again.  However--when I got back on recently and read through the thread--I also saw that you acknowledged that your behavior and attitude when drunk is pretty disgusting and you and a poster that you referred to as a "meathead" made amends.  That was cool to see.   

Reading through your stories--one thing that is clear in my mind is that you have many reasons and motivations to get yourself right.  Really--your beautiful niece alone is enough motivation to want to move things in the right direction.  Your sister also seems like a fantastic person. Your childhood was definitely far from perfect--but don't forget that you still have a lot of people counting on you to get yourself right.   You aren't just doing it for yourself--you're doing it for that fantastic little girl.   Thank you again for sharing--and once again..good luck. 
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I appreciate the effort. Admittedly not full because I no longer have any hope for the human race. It is what it is and it's over.

 
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