I think it is going to be tough for Hosmer to produce above his cost this year. I took him this year in the 6th round of my draft and that was mainly because it is a keeper league and I am looking to retool my current keepers. I have seen Hosmer routinely going at around the 50 pick area so there isn't a lot of room for value. Of course I like him a lot but i think he is going to need to produce a line like .290-.300 25 hrs 100 rbis 10-15 sb to reward owners. I would love to see him do that though.
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So Who Is Breaking Out in 2012? (1 Viewer)
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Mr. Know-It-All
Footballguy
Just saw it - what a shame. Last year I watched him as a AAA player here in Omaha. In one of his first game he steps up with the bases loaded. I turn to my son and tell him that is too much pressure for this kid. Two pitches later he blasts a grand slam. Really nice kid.
Bronx Bomber
Footballguy
Montero- I haven't gotten into Fantasy Baseball yet so he might be already a highly rated guy and/or considered a breakout with his late season performance last year. So forgive my ignorance if he is obvious, but he should be a stud. Hosmer, Kendrick, Austin Jackson are also good ones.
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Bronx Bomber
Footballguy
yeah, don't know why I put that. Must be my subconscious remembering how bad I wanted them to use him more than his 2-3 at bats(whatever it was) in the playoffs. I meant late in the season. He has the tools though.
For the Rangers my vote is Elvis Andrus- I think his BA could rise 10-15 points putting him close to being a 300 hitter. I also expect his HR to continue to increase a bit (maybe 10-12 range up from 5 in 2011) as he's only 23 years old and his power hasn't totally come in yet. It will be interesting to see if he bats 2nd or 8th this year, looking at his spring numbers I have to think he starts the season batting 2nd.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Why on earth would they consider batting him 8th? Who would be better suited?....old man Young? If anything I'd think they would move Kinsler back in the order before Andrus.
Consdiering he had the lowest OPS of anyone of the starting 9 last year there are lots of options, and yes old man Michael Young coming off another 200 hit season would be the most likely candidate to take it over that spot if Wash makes a change.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Why would OPS be such a big deal for your 1 or 2 hitters? They're table setters and Andrus is solid running the bases. From what little I've seen, Andrus may be their best base runner. The guy just scorched the Tigers last year in the ALCS.Andrus' OBP last year was .347. His OBP has gone up each year so far and he dropped his K's by over 30% last year and like you said, he's only 23 years old. I think it makes very little sense to drop one of your best base runners to 8th in the order.
I personally like Andrus at 2 and I really think he's going to have a huge year... why I mentioned him here. There has been a little talk in the Ranger blogland and some newspaper guys that the lineup could shakeup a bit. Wash even said the lineups he's putting out in spring training may not be the regualr season lineups. It is possible that Michael Young could wind up in the #2 slot, although I don't see Wash making that move... it is a possibility. The #2 hitter should be one of the 3 best hitters on the team and Elvis is not there yet. As far as OPS being a determining factor there is plenty of evidence out that that suggest the most optimal lineups have high OPS guys at the top of the lineup.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Okay. I'd really like to hear your thoughts on how much a chance there is of this happening. My draft is Thursday night and I really had Elvis pegged for close to Jose Reyes numbers. That absolutely will not happen with him batting 8th in the lineup. I don't understand why that move would be made. Andrus was pretty solid there last year and his numbers are trending northward. I'm not sure why the team would demote him.
Low. The fact that Elvis has been crushing it in Spring I'd say less than 10% chance and that may be too high. Yesterdays lineup had Elvis@2, Young@5, Cruz@6, Napoli@7. At this point I think he hits #2 on opening day and would have to hit a prolonged slump for Wash to rework the order.
Eephus
Footballguy
Andrus batted #2 134 times last year and led off 9 times. He never hit anywhere else in the order in his 143 starts.
Unless there's been explicit talk about him dropping to the bottom of the order, I'd assume he'll stay where he was last year. But by the same token, you can't really project a breakout based on increased ABs and counting stats.
Unless there's been explicit talk about him dropping to the bottom of the order, I'd assume he'll stay where he was last year. But by the same token, you can't really project a breakout based on increased ABs and counting stats.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Would Delmon Young qualify as a breakout for this season?
MAC_32
Footballguy
Liked him before today's trade. Don't get it, but it can only be bad for Cain.I grabbed him in the last round of a real deep redraft (12 team 29 players per)....'urbanhack said:Lorenzo Cain
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
If he's good the whole year, yes. I doubt this happens.'Bigboy10182000 said:
Bobcat10
Footballguy
Yeah I don't get it either.Liked him before today's trade. Don't get it, but it can only be bad for Cain.I grabbed him in the last round of a real deep redraft (12 team 29 players per)....'urbanhack said:Lorenzo Cain
Eephus
Footballguy
Cain is having a good spring. Bourgeois is more of a 4th OF type.Yeah I don't get it either.Liked him before today's trade. Don't get it, but it can only be bad for Cain.I grabbed him in the last round of a real deep redraft (12 team 29 players per)....'urbanhack said:Lorenzo Cain
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
It is his age 27 season fwiw
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
And there should be plenty on the base paths for him
I like him, but his stock is going up so fast.
Eephus
Footballguy
Top 10 is really pushing it.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
cheese
Footballguy
Not buying in on this one. His swing looks slow every time I watch him and I don't think he has any interest in adjusting. This is one guy I would have been more interested in if Spring Training had gone differently. We may list him on here again in 3 years as the next Delmon Young, but I'll let someone else pay his price until then.
MAC_32
Footballguy
In order to do it he'd have to either start mashing or stay healthy all season to run like he does when he is healthy. Neither is a good bet as long as he's in San Diego imho. 10/40 is certainly doable, but I wouldn't expect more than that. If he were to eclipse one it'd be steals as he just needs to avoid the nagging injuries that slowed him down last season.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
'cheese said:
J-Hey striving for mediocrity. Hopes to become the next Delmon Young.
Eephus
Footballguy
Heyward's disappointing, injury plagued 2011 season still was good for 2.0 WAR. That's better than Young's best season so far (2010 1.7 WAR).'cheese said:
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
He plays 81 games at Petco, not gonna happen. Maybin is going to be all kinds of awesome, my favorite baseball prospect ever is becoming a man.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Is WAR geared more for Fantasy or real life baseball?Heyward's disappointing, injury plagued 2011 season still was good for 2.0 WAR. That's better than Young's best season so far (2010 1.7 WAR).'cheese said:
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Would Hanley qualify as a break out guy?
MAC_32
Footballguy
Real, but it can be an indicator for fantasy too. i.e. if Mark Reynolds goes into a slump at the plate (moreso than usual) he's going to the bench because his defense is God awful. If Peter Bourjos does it he won't because his defense is spectacular.
Eephus
Footballguy
Real life mostly but Heyward will provide some SBs and a bigger contribution in OBP leagues.
E-Z Glider
Footballguy
Billy Butler seems to be a forgotten man in KC. I like him a lot as a breakout/value play this year (OBP league). Not expecting a huge HR totals (20-25?), but should pile up more runs and rbis batting cleanup with the improved talent around him. He's having a great spring and his 11 games at 1B last year qualifies him at both 1B/CI in my league too.
Eephus
Footballguy
I think it's fair to draft Butler based on his established level of production, but I don't foresee a big breakout. People who expect improvement in his counting stats will probably be disappointed. Gordon and Francoeur are big regression risks. I like Cain but he's unlikely to approach Melky's 2011 output. Escobar, Quintero/Pena and Giavotella/Getz/Betancourt are three big holes. For there to be any kind of aggregate offensive breakout, you have to assume Moustakas and Hosmer (and Butler) make up for all these other areas.I like (but don't love) the Royals this year, mostly because their pitching can't possibly as bad as last year. I think their offense will probably continue to be around league average in runs scored.Billy Butler seems to be a forgotten man in KC. I like him a lot as a breakout/value play this year (OBP league). Not expecting a huge HR totals (20-25?), but should pile up more runs and rbis batting cleanup with the improved talent around him. He's having a great spring and his 11 games at 1B last year qualifies him at both 1B/CI in my league too.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
I just read he won't be sitting as much or at all during interleague play this year like he did last year. The plan is to put Hosmer in the OF and let Butler play 1B, securing his eligibility for next season as well.Billy Butler seems to be a forgotten man in KC. I like him a lot as a breakout/value play this year (OBP league). Not expecting a huge HR totals (20-25?), but should pile up more runs and rbis batting cleanup with the improved talent around him. He's having a great spring and his 11 games at 1B last year qualifies him at both 1B/CI in my league too.
Eephus
Footballguy
Hosmer in RF is one of those things that seems like a good idea in MarchI just read he won't be sitting as much or at all during interleague play this year like he did last year. The plan is to put Hosmer in the OF and let Butler play 1B, securing his eligibility for next season as well.Billy Butler seems to be a forgotten man in KC. I like him a lot as a breakout/value play this year (OBP league). Not expecting a huge HR totals (20-25?), but should pile up more runs and rbis batting cleanup with the improved talent around him. He's having a great spring and his 11 games at 1B last year qualifies him at both 1B/CI in my league too.
No worse idea than Vlad Guerrero in RF in October. Lol.Hosmer in RF is one of those things that seems like a good idea in MarchI just read he won't be sitting as much or at all during interleague play this year like he did last year. The plan is to put Hosmer in the OF and let Butler play 1B, securing his eligibility for next season as well.Billy Butler seems to be a forgotten man in KC. I like him a lot as a breakout/value play this year (OBP league). Not expecting a huge HR totals (20-25?), but should pile up more runs and rbis batting cleanup with the improved talent around him. He's having a great spring and his 11 games at 1B last year qualifies him at both 1B/CI in my league too.
