[speculation/rumor] Carr to be traded soon (1 Viewer)

[Imedos]

- local radio station is buzzing a little about it.

- some ditz on cold pizza said they had a source that Carr is gone.

- official texans msg board had his image removed from the banner.

any idea where he might be heading? I like Oakland(would free them up more for CJ) and Minny, as it would make the odds greater that Quinn falls to Houston.

 

[Banger]

- local radio station is buzzing a little about it.- some ditz on cold pizza said they had a source that Carr is gone.- official texans msg board had his image removed from the banner.any idea where he might be heading? I like Oakland(would free them up more for CJ) and Minny, as it would make the odds greater that Quinn falls to Houston.

I could see him in GB.

 

[u999spf]

I could see him in Cleveland, paving the way for the Peterson selection.

 

[Sack-Religious]

- local radio station is buzzing a little about it.- some ditz on cold pizza said they had a source that Carr is gone.- official texans msg board had his image removed from the banner.any idea where he might be heading? I like Oakland(would free them up more for CJ) and Minny, as it would make the odds greater that Quinn falls to Houston.

If Oakland, who goes to Houston? Moss?

 

[harrycarey]

For the cheap/resonable price he'll go for, I think just about every team is a possibility. A former #1 pick who's still young with talent will interest a lot of people. Teams with recent good young QB's might not, because they wouldn't won't to send the wrong message to the current guy (SF, Tenn, AZ, SD..etc).

I see Clev, Oak, GB, KC, Miami as very good possibilities

 

[Kit Fisto]

I could see him in Cleveland, paving the way for the Peterson selection.

I see him in Oakland, paving the way for the Johnson selection.

 

[SSOG]

I always thought Denver should have just traded Plummer for Carr and gotten it over with. Plummer obviously wanted to play for Houston, and Carr would have made a much better backup QB for the Broncos system than Ramsey.

 

[Imedos]

If Oakland, who goes to Houston? Moss?

At this point, Houston fans would be ecstatic to get a high 3rd rounder for Carr.

 

[ThePittbully]

He could go anywhere, they probably arent asking very much for him. Oakland, Cleveland, Minnesota, Detroit, Buffalo are likely IMO

 

[coolnerd]

- official texans msg board had his image removed from the banner.

Since I know some back story on this portion, I will share. The Admin of the message board for the official site has been in control of graphics forever. The change came from above his head without any contact to the admin. Stranger also is that they left Dom Davis-williams picture up on the same graphic which Carr was mysteriously removed. Carr's name has not been mentioned in any sales material all off-season. These things normally don't matter, but at mininun they indicate that the Texans don't view Carr is the "face of franchise" and maybe evidence of Carr's eventual departure.

 

[Imedos]

- official texans msg board had his image removed from the banner.

Since I know some back story on this portion, I will share. The Admin of the message board for the official site has been in control of graphics forever. The change came from above his head without any contact to the admin. Stranger also is that they left Dom Davis-williams picture up on the same graphic which Carr was mysteriously removed. Carr's name has not been mentioned in any sales material all off-season. These things normally don't matter, but at mininun they indicate that the Texans don't view Carr is the "face of franchise" and maybe evidence of Carr's eventual departure.

thx for the info. That is interesting.I wonder if there was some sort of falling out between Carr and Kubiak off the field. Kubiak had chosen him as the guy to roll with into his rookie coaching season, and was riding him pretty hard going into the season. And it seemed like a little over halfway through the season all confidence and respect was gone.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

- local radio station is buzzing a little about it.

- some ditz on cold pizza said they had a source that Carr is gone.

- official texans msg board had his image removed from the banner.

any idea where he might be heading? I like Oakland(would free them up more for CJ) and Minny, as it would make the odds greater that Quinn falls to Houston.

Someone had mentioned that Denver should have just traded Plummer for Carr since it was evident that Plummer wanted to go there and the Texans wanted Jake. Well...The Denver Post reports an NFL spokesman said the league still hasn't received retirement papers from former Broncos QB Jake Plummer. The filing of the papers is a formality, and those close to Plummer, 32, maintain he still plans to retire. Plummer's rights were traded to Tampa Bay last Saturday.

I don't know if Tampa Bay needs another QB in the mix but the deal with Denver consisted of a fourth round pick to Denver if Jake reports to Tampa Bay by March, I believe, but only a seventh round pick if he doesn't report by March. So any deal of Plummer to Houston for Carr would not take place untill after this month and then Tampa Bay would get Carr, err, that is if they still are looking for more QBs and if they even want Carr in the first place. But if they do then Tampa Bay in effect would only be trading a seventh round pick for David Carr instead of a fourth rounder.

Many loose threads would be wound together if the above should happen where Plummer would end up starting in Houston and Carr would be in the, Simms/Garcia/Carr mix in Tampa Bay.

 

[slowkidz]

I could see him in Cleveland, paving the way for the Peterson selection.

I can see this...but it could be a Thomas selection too. With Reuben on the block and Kubiak in Houston, what about a trade involving switching 1st rounders and players (Carr & Droughns)?

 

[The Carnage]

Since I know some back story on this portion, I will share. The Admin of the message board for the official site has been in control of graphics forever. The change came from above his head without any contact to the admin. Stranger also is that they left Dom Davis-williams picture up on the same graphic which Carr was mysteriously removed.

Dom Williams is the new QB.New haircut. New name. New position!

 

[Aaronstory]

Man, how badly did Casserly screw this franchise up? He could have had either Bush or Young, but they stuck with Carr and Davis/Williams and took the DE. And a after making this brilliant, franchise-altering decision, he jumps ship.

If I were a Texan fan, I don't know how I'd get up every morning...

 

[Colin Dowling]

He could go anywhere, they probably arent asking very much for him. Oakland, Cleveland, Minnesota, Detroit, Buffalo are likely IMO

Buffalo has a QB better then Carr already.

 

[dparker713]

Man, how badly did Casserly screw this franchise up? He could have had either Bush or Young, but they stuck with Carr and Davis/Williams and took the DE. And a after making this brilliant, franchise-altering decision, he jumps ship. If I were a Texan fan, I don't know how I'd get up every morning...

There is alot to blame Casserly for, but last year's draft isn't one of them. That draft was Kubiak's as Charley was on his way out at that point.

 

[billyjoe]

Man, how badly did Casserly screw this franchise up? He could have had either Bush or Young, but they stuck with Carr and Davis/Williams and took the DE. And a after making this brilliant, franchise-altering decision, he jumps ship. If I were a Texan fan, I don't know how I'd get up every morning...

There is alot to blame Casserly for, but last year's draft isn't one of them. That draft was Kubiak's as Charley was on his way out at that point.

That's uh, completely wrong. But thanks for sharing.

 

[Blackjacks]

Saint Louis fan here and I know when Martz was getting interviewd for the Houston job last year I thought he was going there because of the man-love he showed for David Carr. I think if there is any possibility to the Lions getting him for a cheap price they will pony up for him. I know Kitna had a very good year there last year but the talent between these 2 players isn't very close. I assume the Texans are hoping to get either Quinn in the draft or Plummer out of the peace corp .

 

[Aaronstory]

Man, how badly did Casserly screw this franchise up? He could have had either Bush or Young, but they stuck with Carr and Davis/Williams and took the DE. And a after making this brilliant, franchise-altering decision, he jumps ship. If I were a Texan fan, I don't know how I'd get up every morning...

There is alot to blame Casserly for, but last year's draft isn't one of them. That draft was Kubiak's as Charley was on his way out at that point.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

They shoud trade him to the Bucs for Plummer straight up. Problem solved.

 

[lod2005]

- official texans msg board had his image removed from the banner.

Sweet. Can't wait for the day the bum is officially run out of town.

 

[lod2005]

Since I know some back story on this portion, I will share. The Admin of the message board for the official site has been in control of graphics forever. The change came from above his head without any contact to the admin. Stranger also is that they left Dom Davis-williams picture up on the same graphic which Carr was mysteriously removed. Carr's name has not been mentioned in any sales material all off-season. These things normally don't matter, but at mininun they indicate that the Texans don't view Carr is the "face of franchise" and maybe evidence of Carr's eventual departure.

The moderators over there are total carr loving sissys. It's no wonder the loser was always on the front page. I'm just glad to know that I helped run this loser out of town. Took a few years and a couple of suspensions for telling it like it is but in the end, I win. Carr blows. Always has, always will.

 

[The Jacket]

All hail lod2005, for it was he who ran David Carr out of Houston.

Uh, you know, when it happens and all...

 

[QUEZILLA]

I think Carr had more to do with the Jake Plummer trade, than Jake himself.

 

[Rozelle]

All hail lod2005, for it was he who ran David Carr out of Houston.

Uh, you know, when it happens and all...

Probabley Casserly too

 

[NoCheese]

I hope the Vikings will offer a 4th round pick for him. That gives them an immediate solid, but not spectacular starter. At least Travaris doesn't have to start in 2008. It would allow them to trade down and draft a WR in the 1st round or grab Adrian Peterson if he's available.

 

[coolnerd]

Since I know some back story on this portion, I will share. The Admin of the message board for the official site has been in control of graphics forever. The change came from above his head without any contact to the admin. Stranger also is that they left Dom Davis-williams picture up on the same graphic which Carr was mysteriously removed. Carr's name has not been mentioned in any sales material all off-season. These things normally don't matter, but at mininun they indicate that the Texans don't view Carr is the "face of franchise" and maybe evidence of Carr's eventual departure.

The moderators over there are total carr loving sissys. Carr blows. Always has, always will.

Well, I am one of those moderators. I personally had nothing to do with your removal and pretty much laughed at/ingorned your posts, but do know the truth behind the banning. Whether you believe it or not, we are unpaid and none of our comments are examined/edited/encouraged, etc. Just giving the other side to the story.

 

[lod2005]

Well, I am one of those moderators. I personally had nothing to do with your removal and pretty much laughed at/ingorned your posts, but do know the truth behind the banning. Whether you believe it or not, we are unpaid and none of our comments are examined/edited/encouraged, etc. Just giving the other side to the story.

Laugh all you want but I was right in my analysis. The fact is, Carr sucks, will never have a winning season EVER, and will continue his horrible display of ineptitude for a couple more years...for some other team.

 

[Family Matters]

Not sure this has anything to do with where Carr will go but I'll add it as it might become relevant. Yesrday I spoke with a member of the Browns and we discussing the off season moves they've made to date. I asked about Frye and he answered with he didn't know what would happen to him but that they were very impressed and surprised by how well Anderson played.

There's been rumors about Frye and the Browns not being happy with him so maybe this really is the case. If so then the Carr rumors make some sense to include the Browns in that discussion.

 

[dparker713]

Man, how badly did Casserly screw this franchise up? He could have had either Bush or Young, but they stuck with Carr and Davis/Williams and took the DE. And a after making this brilliant, franchise-altering decision, he jumps ship. If I were a Texan fan, I don't know how I'd get up every morning...

There is alot to blame Casserly for, but last year's draft isn't one of them. That draft was Kubiak's as Charley was on his way out at that point.

That's uh, completely wrong. But thanks for sharing.

Everyone knew Casserly was leaving in about January. While Charlie publicly stated the pick was his, that not what any of the reports say. Besides, other then the first pick, the Texans had a great draft, do you really think Casserly was capable of that? Make no mistake, last draft was the first of the Kubiak era.

 

[coolnerd]

Well, I am one of those moderators. I personally had nothing to do with your removal and pretty much laughed at/ingorned your posts, but do know the truth behind the banning. Whether you believe it or not, we are unpaid and none of our comments are examined/edited/encouraged, etc. Just giving the other side to the story.

Laugh all you want but I was right in my analysis. The fact is, Carr sucks, will never have a winning season EVER, and will continue his horrible display of ineptitude for a couple more years...for some other team.

The laugh at had nothing to with the rightness or wrongness, but the predictability of stating some version of "Carr sucks" When you do analyze things you have shown to be a bright person imo, but you on this and the other board chosen to just merely be the guy who stirs pot, most of time just for the sake of doing so. Anyway, enough of a hi-jack on a side issue.

 

[Colin Dowling]

I have been exceedingly critical of Carr here. I think he has some SERIOUS issues that may never be fixed. That said, if I needed a QB this offseason (Oakland, Detroit, Minnesota, Cleveland) and was picking relatively high in the draft, I'd gladly trade a 3rd for Carr and use my draft picks on some other players. In other words, I don't care much for Carr, but I can't say with much confidence that I think Quinn or Russell are going to be ever be any better then Carr.

 

[Slinger]

Well, I am one of those moderators. I personally had nothing to do with your removal and pretty much laughed at/ingorned your posts, but do know the truth behind the banning. Whether you believe it or not, we are unpaid and none of our comments are examined/edited/encouraged, etc. Just giving the other side to the story.

Laugh all you want but I was right in my analysis. The fact is, Carr sucks, will never have a winning season EVER, and will continue his horrible display of ineptitude for a couple more years...for some other team.

Thank you for providing us your FF roster on your signature.

 

[lod2005]

About as predictable as Carr's weekly loss, eh?

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

He could go anywhere, they probably arent asking very much for him. Oakland, Cleveland, Minnesota, Detroit, Buffalo are likely IMO

Buffalo has a QB better then Carr already.

I think they mean he'd come in as a backup, veteran type.Either way, I wouldn't want him coming to Buffalo if he were a free-agent playing for minimum wage.

 

[lod2005]

Thank you for providing us your FF roster on your signature.

No problem. And it's pretty damn strong in a 14 team league with 3 1st round picks in this THE DRAFT of ALL DYNASTY drafts (2007).

 

[Two Deep]

Thank you for providing us your FF roster on your signature.

No problem. And it's pretty damn strong in a 14 team league with 3 1st round picks in this THE DRAFT of ALL DYNASTY drafts (2007).

Your walking a thin line......

 

[Slinger]

Thank you for providing us your FF roster on your signature.

No problem. And it's pretty damn strong in a 14 team league with 3 1st round picks in this THE DRAFT of ALL DYNASTY drafts (2007).

Awesome.

 

[lod2005]

I have been exceedingly critical of Carr here. I think he has some SERIOUS issues that may never be fixed. That said, if I needed a QB this offseason (Oakland, Detroit, Minnesota, Cleveland) and was picking relatively high in the draft, I'd gladly trade a 3rd for Carr and use my draft picks on some other players. In other words, I don't care much for Carr, but I can't say with much confidence that I think Quinn or Russell are going to be ever be any better then Carr.

Carr isn't fixable. That said, Russell is no guarantee and who knows with Quinn. He's all over the board as far as a bust to a pro bowl QB. But the fact is Carr is at best a backup and will never produce a winning season in the NFL. He just is not any good. He's a dink and dunk Joey Harrington. He's never won a game that mattered. Even looking at some of the games the team won with him at QB, the stats are comical adn he shouldn't even be credited with a win. Thus his current W-L record is inflated.2002: 1 of hsi wins: 3-10 for 33 yards...sorry no credit deserved.2003: 2 wins....his combined stats for those games: 4-9 for 37 yards. Those aren't wins.and of course, how can anyone forget 2006: Loss after loss and FINALLY Kubiak says enough is enough, you aren't allowed to throw the ball. 3 wins out of 5 games, 1 TD, 5 INT's. Games won by the RB's which included Ron Dayne of all people. Now how is it a team with Ron Dayne running the ball can win without a viable QB? It seems that Texans mgmt. is questioning that and making what appears to be a GREAT move.Gawd, this guy sucks even more than I realized.

 

[lod2005]

Thank you for providing us your FF roster on your signature.

No problem. And it's pretty damn strong in a 14 team league with 3 1st round picks in this THE DRAFT of ALL DYNASTY drafts (2007).

Your walking a thin line......

I'll stomp your weakling team.

 

[Aaronstory]

Man, how badly did Casserly screw this franchise up? He could have had either Bush or Young, but they stuck with Carr and Davis/Williams and took the DE. And a after making this brilliant, franchise-altering decision, he jumps ship.

If I were a Texan fan, I don't know how I'd get up every morning...

There is alot to blame Casserly for, but last year's draft isn't one of them. That draft was Kubiak's as Charley was on his way out at that point.

That's uh, completely wrong. But thanks for sharing.

Everyone knew Casserly was leaving in about January. While Charlie publicly stated the pick was his, that not what any of the reports say. Besides, other then the first pick, the Texans had a great draft, do you really think Casserly was capable of that? Make no mistake, last draft was the first of the Kubiak era.

Well, he did build a championship team in Washington... I'm sure Kubiak had input, but it was Casserly's draft by all official report. When the great Casserly Biography comes out, (no doubt to be titled "How I Built a Champion and then Lived Off My Name") we'll find out the truth...

 

[dparker713]

Man, how badly did Casserly screw this franchise up? He could have had either Bush or Young, but they stuck with Carr and Davis/Williams and took the DE. And a after making this brilliant, franchise-altering decision, he jumps ship.

If I were a Texan fan, I don't know how I'd get up every morning...

There is alot to blame Casserly for, but last year's draft isn't one of them. That draft was Kubiak's as Charley was on his way out at that point.

That's uh, completely wrong. But thanks for sharing.

Everyone knew Casserly was leaving in about January. While Charlie publicly stated the pick was his, that not what any of the reports say. Besides, other then the first pick, the Texans had a great draft, do you really think Casserly was capable of that? Make no mistake, last draft was the first of the Kubiak era.

Well, he did build a championship team in Washington... I'm sure Kubiak had input, but it was Casserly's draft by all official report. When the great Casserly Biography comes out, (no doubt to be titled "How I Built a Champion and then Lived Off My Name") we'll find out the truth...

Its not his draft according to the beat writers, radio, or TV.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Thank you for providing us your FF roster on your signature.

No problem. And it's pretty damn strong in a 14 team league with 3 1st round picks in this THE DRAFT of ALL DYNASTY drafts (2007).

Your walking a thin line......

I'll stomp your weakling team.

And now you just skipped over the line. I have seen you post a lot. Why are you risking your board cred over something this silly? Fluffing up your dybasty team is considered pissing in the SP and frowned down upon...why don't you go back and look at what you posted...chill out. Your boss at work can't be that bad.

 

[billyjoe]

Man, how badly did Casserly screw this franchise up? He could have had either Bush or Young, but they stuck with Carr and Davis/Williams and took the DE. And a after making this brilliant, franchise-altering decision, he jumps ship. If I were a Texan fan, I don't know how I'd get up every morning...

There is alot to blame Casserly for, but last year's draft isn't one of them. That draft was Kubiak's as Charley was on his way out at that point.

That's uh, completely wrong. But thanks for sharing.

Everyone knew Casserly was leaving in about January. While Charlie publicly stated the pick was his, that not what any of the reports say. Besides, other then the first pick, the Texans had a great draft, do you really think Casserly was capable of that? Make no mistake, last draft was the first of the Kubiak era.

Actually all the reports said it was Casserly's call, and only his call.Kubiak was on the job a very short time. First time head coach. You really think Kubiak was made GM, and was in charge of picking/signing the 1st overall pick? You're out of your mind. The owner trusted Casserly. He was in charge of the draft. Go find me reports that Kubiak was the one calling the shots. I'll wait...That's what I thought.

 

[billyjoe]

Man, how badly did Casserly screw this franchise up? He could have had either Bush or Young, but they stuck with Carr and Davis/Williams and took the DE. And a after making this brilliant, franchise-altering decision, he jumps ship.

If I were a Texan fan, I don't know how I'd get up every morning...

There is alot to blame Casserly for, but last year's draft isn't one of them. That draft was Kubiak's as Charley was on his way out at that point.

That's uh, completely wrong. But thanks for sharing.

Everyone knew Casserly was leaving in about January. While Charlie publicly stated the pick was his, that not what any of the reports say. Besides, other then the first pick, the Texans had a great draft, do you really think Casserly was capable of that? Make no mistake, last draft was the first of the Kubiak era.

Well, he did build a championship team in Washington... I'm sure Kubiak had input, but it was Casserly's draft by all official report. When the great Casserly Biography comes out, (no doubt to be titled "How I Built a Champion and then Lived Off My Name") we'll find out the truth...

Its not his draft according to the beat writers, radio, or TV.

Lets see the links please.

 

[mcjc4]

I hope the Vikings will offer a 4th round pick for him. That gives them an immediate solid, but not spectacular starter. At least Travaris doesn't have to start in 2008. It would allow them to trade down and draft a WR in the 1st round or grab Adrian Peterson if he's available.

I have to agree. In the dink and dunk WCO, Carr would have the best o-line he has ever had, and not fell forced to hold the ball and take sack # 799 of his career.

 

[ThePittbully]

He could go anywhere, they probably arent asking very much for him. Oakland, Cleveland, Minnesota, Detroit, Buffalo are likely IMO

Buffalo has a QB better then Carr already.

O yea? Where are they hiding him?

 

[dparker713]

Man, how badly did Casserly screw this franchise up? He could have had either Bush or Young, but they stuck with Carr and Davis/Williams and took the DE. And a after making this brilliant, franchise-altering decision, he jumps ship.

If I were a Texan fan, I don't know how I'd get up every morning...

There is alot to blame Casserly for, but last year's draft isn't one of them. That draft was Kubiak's as Charley was on his way out at that point.

That's uh, completely wrong. But thanks for sharing.

Everyone knew Casserly was leaving in about January. While Charlie publicly stated the pick was his, that not what any of the reports say. Besides, other then the first pick, the Texans had a great draft, do you really think Casserly was capable of that? Make no mistake, last draft was the first of the Kubiak era.

Actually all the reports said it was Casserly's call, and only his call.Kubiak was on the job a very short time. First time head coach. You really think Kubiak was made GM, and was in charge of picking/signing the 1st overall pick? You're out of your mind. The owner trusted Casserly. He was in charge of the draft.

Go find me reports that Kubiak was the one calling the shots. I'll wait...

That's what I thought.

From Richard Justice:

Yet it was Kubiak, not Casserly, who botched last spring's first-round draft choice. It was Kubiak who shaped this roster. It was Kubiak who didn't have his team ready to play Sunday

Houston ChronicleSo sorry you had to wait a whole 35 minutes.

 

[dparker713]

Man, how badly did Casserly screw this franchise up? He could have had either Bush or Young, but they stuck with Carr and Davis/Williams and took the DE. And a after making this brilliant, franchise-altering decision, he jumps ship.

If I were a Texan fan, I don't know how I'd get up every morning...

There is alot to blame Casserly for, but last year's draft isn't one of them. That draft was Kubiak's as Charley was on his way out at that point.

That's uh, completely wrong. But thanks for sharing.

Everyone knew Casserly was leaving in about January. While Charlie publicly stated the pick was his, that not what any of the reports say. Besides, other then the first pick, the Texans had a great draft, do you really think Casserly was capable of that? Make no mistake, last draft was the first of the Kubiak era.

Well, he did build a championship team in Washington... I'm sure Kubiak had input, but it was Casserly's draft by all official report. When the great Casserly Biography comes out, (no doubt to be titled "How I Built a Champion and then Lived Off My Name") we'll find out the truth...

Its not his draft according to the beat writers, radio, or TV.

Lets see the links please.

JusticeMcClain

That enough yet?