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Promote Mike Nolan and get rid of Sporano. Today was the Miami season in a nutshell...settle for long FG attempts and today it really blew up in their face. Carpenter missed from 48, 48, 51, and 61...you just can't expect him to be accurate from long range all the time. Maybe he should have hit from 48 1st time out but by the 4th he had too many misses to expect him to nail a long FG. They needed another 10 yards to help him out and they couldn't do it.

Miami is 7-7 and with a little more spark in that offense they could easily be 10-4 right now. The defense is going in the right direction. I'm afraid if they do not promote Nolan someone else will give him a shot. I know Nolan failed in SF, but he has been brilliant as DC this year and also did well in Denver last year but became a scapegoat for their collapse.

 
So...you lost because you had Dan Carpenter as your kicker? :no:

Sparano is only HC because of Parcells' position within the franchise. I would say most of the team's problems lie with the fact that they don't have consistent QB play, which shouldn't be the situation considering the offensive experience Sparano has. Pretty clear that Parcells is going to do whatever he feels necessary to keep his pet around.

 
So...you lost because you had Dan Carpenter as your kicker? :no: Sparano is only HC because of Parcells' position within the franchise. I would say most of the team's problems lie with the fact that they don't have consistent QB play, which shouldn't be the situation considering the offensive experience Sparano has. Pretty clear that Parcells is going to do whatever he feels necessary to keep his pet around.
Parcells has been gone for months
 
Promote Mike Nolan and get rid of Sporano. Today was the Miami season in a nutshell...settle for long FG attempts and today it really blew up in their face. Carpenter missed from 48, 48, 51, and 61...you just can't expect him to be accurate from long range all the time. Maybe he should have hit from 48 1st time out but by the 4th he had too many misses to expect him to nail a long FG. They needed another 10 yards to help him out and they couldn't do it.Miami is 7-7 and with a little more spark in that offense they could easily be 10-4 right now. The defense is going in the right direction. I'm afraid if they do not promote Nolan someone else will give him a shot. I know Nolan failed in SF, but he has been brilliant as DC this year and also did well in Denver last year but became a scapegoat for their collapse.
Offense needs a spark so promote the DC whose only previous HC experience was leading the offensive juggernaut of San Francisco? Firing to get Cowher, sure, but I'd like a little more insight into why Nolan is the right fit for MIA as HC.
 
So...you lost because you had Dan Carpenter as your kicker? :no: Sparano is only HC because of Parcells' position within the franchise. I would say most of the team's problems lie with the fact that they don't have consistent QB play, which shouldn't be the situation considering the offensive experience Sparano has. Pretty clear that Parcells is going to do whatever he feels necessary to keep his pet around.
Parcell's isn't with the team anymore so he can't protect Sparano anymore.
 
Promote Mike Nolan and get rid of Sporano. Today was the Miami season in a nutshell...settle for long FG attempts and today it really blew up in their face. Carpenter missed from 48, 48, 51, and 61...you just can't expect him to be accurate from long range all the time. Maybe he should have hit from 48 1st time out but by the 4th he had too many misses to expect him to nail a long FG. They needed another 10 yards to help him out and they couldn't do it.Miami is 7-7 and with a little more spark in that offense they could easily be 10-4 right now. The defense is going in the right direction. I'm afraid if they do not promote Nolan someone else will give him a shot. I know Nolan failed in SF, but he has been brilliant as DC this year and also did well in Denver last year but became a scapegoat for their collapse.
Yeah, I agree. I think that Sparano is going to get a lot of credit for the turnaround that he achieved in his first year, so it's probably going to take at least two more years of underachieving for him to be fired. I really don't think he is a good coach though, but the press and commentators always seem to think well of him and that is going to help him out.I think that Sparano's biggest weaknesses are game-planning and in-game decision making. He seems like someone who would be a great coordinator, but will never be a great head coach.So I guess, in the short run, the only realistic solution is to get a better offensive coordinator and keep Tony away from the offense. This doesn't solve the problem of Nolan potentially leaving. But I'm not as worried about Nolan leaving as you are.
 
Promote Mike Nolan and get rid of Sporano. Today was the Miami season in a nutshell...settle for long FG attempts and today it really blew up in their face. Carpenter missed from 48, 48, 51, and 61...you just can't expect him to be accurate from long range all the time. Maybe he should have hit from 48 1st time out but by the 4th he had too many misses to expect him to nail a long FG. They needed another 10 yards to help him out and they couldn't do it.Miami is 7-7 and with a little more spark in that offense they could easily be 10-4 right now. The defense is going in the right direction. I'm afraid if they do not promote Nolan someone else will give him a shot. I know Nolan failed in SF, but he has been brilliant as DC this year and also did well in Denver last year but became a scapegoat for their collapse.
Offense needs a spark so promote the DC whose only previous HC experience was leading the offensive juggernaut of San Francisco? Firing to get Cowher, sure, but I'd like a little more insight into why Nolan is the right fit for MIA as HC.
Option B is watch Nolan get hired elsewhere and Sporano fired anyways...we can hire a new OC for Nolan but I think we need a new HC too. Nolan has the defense playing top5 ball with no names on th DL and a very patchwork secondary.
 
So...you lost because you had Dan Carpenter as your kicker? :blush: Sparano is only HC because of Parcells' position within the franchise. I would say most of the team's problems lie with the fact that they don't have consistent QB play, which shouldn't be the situation considering the offensive experience Sparano has. Pretty clear that Parcells is going to do whatever he feels necessary to keep his pet around.
Parcells has been gone for months
:wall: Totally forgot that he was gone. Well then, you're probably right; Sparano is good as gone. Question is, does the ownership tandem of Marc Anthony and Gloria Estefan understand enough about football to know that he sucks as a HC?
 
Option B is watch Nolan get hired elsewhere and Sporano fired anyways...we can hire a new OC for Nolan but I think we need a new HC too. Nolan has the defense playing top5 ball with no names on th DL and a very patchwork secondary.
I guess I don't understand the theory. If a great defense is a function of the coordinator, then you should want to keep Nolan at coordinator since that is the only way to keep a great defense. If a great defense is a function of the head coach, then you should want to keep Sparano at head coach because he is doing his job.But what do I know? I'm a Lions fan. I'd be over the moon with 7-7 and a top 5 defense.
 
Option B is watch Nolan get hired elsewhere and Sporano fired anyways...we can hire a new OC for Nolan but I think we need a new HC too. Nolan has the defense playing top5 ball with no names on th DL and a very patchwork secondary.
I guess I don't understand the theory. If a great defense is a function of the coordinator, then you should want to keep Nolan at coordinator since that is the only way to keep a great defense. If a great defense is a function of the head coach, then you should want to keep Sparano at head coach because he is doing his job.But what do I know? I'm a Lions fan. I'd be over the moon with 7-7 and a top 5 defense.
He's saying that the defense is a function of Nolan, and promoting him to HC would just be a way to keep him around. It would be great to have Nolan as DC forever, but he's likely to get offered a better job elsewhere.
 
Promote Mike Nolan and get rid of Sporano. Today was the Miami season in a nutshell...settle for long FG attempts and today it really blew up in their face. Carpenter missed from 48, 48, 51, and 61...you just can't expect him to be accurate from long range all the time. Maybe he should have hit from 48 1st time out but by the 4th he had too many misses to expect him to nail a long FG. They needed another 10 yards to help him out and they couldn't do it.Miami is 7-7 and with a little more spark in that offense they could easily be 10-4 right now. The defense is going in the right direction. I'm afraid if they do not promote Nolan someone else will give him a shot. I know Nolan failed in SF, but he has been brilliant as DC this year and also did well in Denver last year but became a scapegoat for their collapse.
have you ever watched a nolan game? he never goes for 4th down.
 
Miami is 7-7 and with a little more spark in that offense they could easily be 10-4 right now.
thats pretty good for one of the toughest conferences with 2 of the nlfs elite. esp great when you consider how bad their qb is.
 
Local radio has Cowher or Harbaugh coaching here already. I think the fins need a front office 1st, then a hc.

Mark and Gloria don't own enough of the team to make decisions. Cmon.

 
Promote Mike Nolan and get rid of Sporano. Today was the Miami season in a nutshell...settle for long FG attempts and today it really blew up in their face. Carpenter missed from 48, 48, 51, and 61...you just can't expect him to be accurate from long range all the time. Maybe he should have hit from 48 1st time out but by the 4th he had too many misses to expect him to nail a long FG. They needed another 10 yards to help him out and they couldn't do it.Miami is 7-7 and with a little more spark in that offense they could easily be 10-4 right now. The defense is going in the right direction. I'm afraid if they do not promote Nolan someone else will give him a shot. I know Nolan failed in SF, but he has been brilliant as DC this year and also did well in Denver last year but became a scapegoat for their collapse.
So are Phins fans happy with the Parcells Experience? He comes in, totally changes everything and leaves 2 or 3 years later with a fatter wallet. Is the franchise in a better or worse position now than it was?From far away it seems it might be the same as it was before Parcells, just with a different cast.
 
What's amazing to me is that the Dolphins are road warriors going 6-1 on the road, and 1-6 at home. Losing to the lowly Bills at home is the cherry on top.

:no:

 
The Dolphins are better off with what parcells left them for sure. Our defense is very young a nd talented. WE have a excellent young LT, a stud WR and a few other pieces on offense. We could use a upgrade on offense QB, TE and and young RB as well as some line help.

Ross the owner wants to hire a big name coach. Cowher has been mentioned and is interested supposedly. Gruden or Harbaugh would be good too. Yes try and keep Nolan he is a great DC but not a good head coach.

 
Promote Mike Nolan and get rid of Sporano. Today was the Miami season in a nutshell...settle for long FG attempts and today it really blew up in their face. Carpenter missed from 48, 48, 51, and 61...you just can't expect him to be accurate from long range all the time. Maybe he should have hit from 48 1st time out but by the 4th he had too many misses to expect him to nail a long FG. They needed another 10 yards to help him out and they couldn't do it.Miami is 7-7 and with a little more spark in that offense they could easily be 10-4 right now. The defense is going in the right direction. I'm afraid if they do not promote Nolan someone else will give him a shot. I know Nolan failed in SF, but he has been brilliant as DC this year and also did well in Denver last year but became a scapegoat for their collapse.
So are Phins fans happy with the Parcells Experience? He comes in, totally changes everything and leaves 2 or 3 years later with a fatter wallet. Is the franchise in a better or worse position now than it was?From far away it seems it might be the same as it was before Parcells, just with a different cast.
Parcells was not good for us at all. Wasted early picks on Pat White, Patrick Turner, and Chad Henne. White and Turner (2nd and 3rd rounders) lasted one year before being cut. White is out of football completely, and Turner may as well be. Jake Long is a franchise LT, but you have to wonder where we would be had we selected Matt Ryan instead. I dont give Parcells credit for Jake Long given that it was the first pick in the draft, and he had a shot at a franchise QB instead. Atlanta sure looks good right now with Ryan under center. Parcells brought in Gibril Wilson and Jake Grove with huge contracts. Both are gone. Wilson may have been the worst player I have ever seen in any defensive secondary since Elvis Patterson. He also brought in Earnest Wilford from Jacksonville for a big contract.Aside from Cameron Wake, Davonne Bess, and Karlos Dansby, I cannot think of too many great personnel moves. Jury is still out on Brandon Marshall. We could have had Dez Bryant in the draft, and I think Dez has the potential to be a better player. Vonte Davis is a real good player, but that was a first round pick so its tough to get too excited about Parcells' genius on that move. In summary, we are 7-7 and have no QB, no running game, and an average (and very expensive) OL. We have a HC and a GM that he brought in who might (should) both be on the hot seat. We have wasted numerous day one draft picks on players who no longer wear pads on Sundays. We have paid a ton of money to free agents that are no longer on NFL rosters. We hit on a few players - but even Matt Millen hit on a few. Thats the story just 3 years (right? 4?) after Bill Parcells came on board. Then when he realizes that things are not peachy, he bails on the team completely so he can try to keep the stench as far from him as possible. Not pretty. Not happy that he ever became a part of this franchise. I am sure he feels the same way given the very obvious failure that he now has on his resume.
 
Personally I don't think that Sparano is the problem and neither is Chad Henne. The problem is our OC and the implosion of our running game this year. Last year when we were actually running the ball better, Henne looked like the prospect that got people excited. But when you take away one major facet like that it makes the team one-dimensional and easier to stop. We also lacked creativity on offence which is a knock on Henning, not Sparano IMO. The Dolphins are still a team in transition, they over-achieved in Sparano's first season and made the playoffs and I think a lot of people expected things to happen faster than they should have because of it. It's also tough when you factor in the division we play in, plus we had one of the toughest schedules in the league this season.

Drafting Ryan would have been nice, but we needed a LT in the worst possible way. I don't think you can look at taking Long as being a mistake. It wasn't a sexy pick, but it was a necessary one. We have one of the most underrated defences in the league and one of the best DCs leading it. Sure, we could use some more secondary help and depth but it's solid for the most part. It's hard to turn a team around overnight and I think it's always best work on the D first. Our offence is still a work in progress, but I think we're moving in the right direction.

People are too quick to get the chopping block out if you ask me and our team is in much better hands now than it was when the powers-that-be were signing and drafting the likes of Daunte Culpepper and Jamar Fletcher over Drew Brees. I've still never got over the fact we had two chances to get him on our roster. :goodposting:

If we're able to land Bill Cowher, absolutely take it, but to fire Sparano just for the sake of firing him wouldn't be the quick fix people are hoping for.

 
Personally I don't think that Sparano is the problem and neither is Chad Henne. The problem is our OC and the implosion of our running game this year. Last year when we were actually running the ball better, Henne looked like the prospect that got people excited. But when you take away one major facet like that it makes the team one-dimensional and easier to stop. We also lacked creativity on offence which is a knock on Henning, not Sparano IMO. The Dolphins are still a team in transition, they over-achieved in Sparano's first season and made the playoffs and I think a lot of people expected things to happen faster than they should have because of it. It's also tough when you factor in the division we play in, plus we had one of the toughest schedules in the league this season.

Drafting Ryan would have been nice, but we needed a LT in the worst possible way. I don't think you can look at taking Long as being a mistake. It wasn't a sexy pick, but it was a necessary one. We have one of the most underrated defences in the league and one of the best DCs leading it. Sure, we could use some more secondary help and depth but it's solid for the most part. It's hard to turn a team around overnight and I think it's always best work on the D first. Our offence is still a work in progress, but I think we're moving in the right direction.

People are too quick to get the chopping block out if you ask me and our team is in much better hands now than it was when the powers-that-be were signing and drafting the likes of Daunte Culpepper and Jamar Fletcher over Drew Brees. I've still never got over the fact we had two chances to get him on our roster. :cry:



If we're able to land Bill Cowher, absolutely take it, but to fire Sparano just for the sake of firing him wouldn't be the quick fix people are hoping for.
Absolutely agree with the bolded. Unless we are firing him to hire Cowher or Gruden, then I cannot see a good reason to fire him. He has not been bad enough to warrant being fired, and frankly, the biggest problems are with the personnel decisions and the offensive play calling IMO. Henning will retire - the focus needs to be on hiring a competent OC, and possibly a GM.
 
What would you guys think about bringing in Josh McDaniels as our OC? I don't like him but there's no denying he is innovative on offence and gets the best out of his players. He helped make Cassel a starter and made Orton and Lloyd into studs this year. I would love to see how we would manage our offence...but then he's gotta deal with Brandon Marshall again too.

 
Personally I don't think that Sparano is the problem and neither is Chad Henne. The problem is our OC and the implosion of our running game this year. Last year when we were actually running the ball better, Henne looked like the prospect that got people excited. But when you take away one major facet like that it makes the team one-dimensional and easier to stop. We also lacked creativity on offence which is a knock on Henning, not Sparano IMO. The Dolphins are still a team in transition, they over-achieved in Sparano's first season and made the playoffs and I think a lot of people expected things to happen faster than they should have because of it. It's also tough when you factor in the division we play in, plus we had one of the toughest schedules in the league this season.

Drafting Ryan would have been nice, but we needed a LT in the worst possible way. I don't think you can look at taking Long as being a mistake. It wasn't a sexy pick, but it was a necessary one. We have one of the most underrated defences in the league and one of the best DCs leading it. Sure, we could use some more secondary help and depth but it's solid for the most part. It's hard to turn a team around overnight and I think it's always best work on the D first. Our offence is still a work in progress, but I think we're moving in the right direction.

People are too quick to get the chopping block out if you ask me and our team is in much better hands now than it was when the powers-that-be were signing and drafting the likes of Daunte Culpepper and Jamar Fletcher over Drew Brees. I've still never got over the fact we had two chances to get him on our roster. :hot:



If we're able to land Bill Cowher, absolutely take it, but to fire Sparano just for the sake of firing him wouldn't be the quick fix people are hoping for.
Absolutely agree with the bolded. Unless we are firing him to hire Cowher or Gruden, then I cannot see a good reason to fire him. He has not been bad enough to warrant being fired, and frankly, the biggest problems are with the personnel decisions and the offensive play calling IMO. Henning will retire - the focus needs to be on hiring a competent OC, and possibly a GM.
:thumbup: to both of you.OC is by far the largest problem we have by far, this team is not that far away otherwise. I also still think Henne could be the answer at QB.

 
Slapdash said:
ChuckLiddell said:
J-Dawg said:
Personally I don't think that Sparano is the problem and neither is Chad Henne. The problem is our OC and the implosion of our running game this year. Last year when we were actually running the ball better, Henne looked like the prospect that got people excited. But when you take away one major facet like that it makes the team one-dimensional and easier to stop. We also lacked creativity on offence which is a knock on Henning, not Sparano IMO. The Dolphins are still a team in transition, they over-achieved in Sparano's first season and made the playoffs and I think a lot of people expected things to happen faster than they should have because of it. It's also tough when you factor in the division we play in, plus we had one of the toughest schedules in the league this season.

Drafting Ryan would have been nice, but we needed a LT in the worst possible way. I don't think you can look at taking Long as being a mistake. It wasn't a sexy pick, but it was a necessary one. We have one of the most underrated defences in the league and one of the best DCs leading it. Sure, we could use some more secondary help and depth but it's solid for the most part. It's hard to turn a team around overnight and I think it's always best work on the D first. Our offence is still a work in progress, but I think we're moving in the right direction.

People are too quick to get the chopping block out if you ask me and our team is in much better hands now than it was when the powers-that-be were signing and drafting the likes of Daunte Culpepper and Jamar Fletcher over Drew Brees. I've still never got over the fact we had two chances to get him on our roster. :thumbdown:



If we're able to land Bill Cowher, absolutely take it, but to fire Sparano just for the sake of firing him wouldn't be the quick fix people are hoping for.
Absolutely agree with the bolded. Unless we are firing him to hire Cowher or Gruden, then I cannot see a good reason to fire him. He has not been bad enough to warrant being fired, and frankly, the biggest problems are with the personnel decisions and the offensive play calling IMO. Henning will retire - the focus needs to be on hiring a competent OC, and possibly a GM.
:lol: to both of you.OC is by far the largest problem we have by far, this team is not that far away otherwise. I also still think Henne could be the answer at QB.
Henne is very close to running out of time as a starter in Miami. He looks like an average backup QB to me out there. Accuracy on both long and short balls is horrible. Decision making is terrible. He holds the ball too long, and does not seem to have any pocket presence whatsoever. Watching Marino for so many years has spoiled me, but despite having zero mobility he always seemed to be able to move a foot in one direction to buy himself that extra split second to allow his receiver to break open. Henne seems to have no idea that when is about to get pummelled, and takes a lot of drive-killing sacks as a result. Despite his horrendous inconsistency, every once in a while he shows a glimmer of competence, but for the most part he looks like a below average starting QB to me. Often well below average. I dont see any possible way that Miami can head into next season thinking Henne is their QB of the future. He will either hold the position down for a year for a rookie picked on day 1 of the draft, or be replaced by a veteran. Any other scenario would be stupid imo.
 
Henne - garbage

Henning - Garbage

Sparano - Garbage

Parcells - Garbage

Ireland - Garbage

The entire staff is gone, the front office is gone. A massive house cleaning is coming.

Funny thing is..I don't care anymore. I think this owner (Steve Ross) is a total joke and tool and has not got a clue what the fans down here want. Have you been to the stadium this season? It makes me sick how fake and vain going to a Dolphin game is. Total corporate slim everywhere. It is just awful. The Atmosphere is awful.

But I guess this is what the NFL has come to in most cities. Save for a few great football town like Greenbay, and Chicago and few others the NFL has become watered down and just over hyped. The product is lacking in most cities...it really is. I am finding myself caring less and less about the NFL each and every year.

Goodbye Dolphins....your broke my heart for the last 15 years....not one year longer. The Marino years were a joy. Yeah we never got a title, had some lean years, but man what a fun team they were to watch. They always had a shot to win with danny in the game.

It has been torture the last 15 years and they are not getting my time anymore.

It's over.

 
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The last things the Dolphins need are to "start-over".
They will, but not with players just with the people running the team. They have a good young defense. They need a big time QB (like most NFL teams) and young explosive RB.They are not far away. But they need a complete change of direction in philosophy and the front office.If they land Cowher....I would stick it out. :shrug: Here I go again LMAO.
 
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The fact that Sparano has allowed this play calling to continue merits his dismissal. He has imploded under pressure and has made so many bad game day decisions this season. And when your 1-7 at home......your going to be fired.

Parcells is a fraud of a front office guy total fraud. To just ditch before the season started...what a cop out. He made the choice on Henne and he bailed and took the cash out the back door.

Piece of steaming ####.

 
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