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Sproles owners - what are you doing with him (1 Viewer)

Clifford

Clifford

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I'm assuming most people who used a fairly high pick on him are in ppr. I'm in a very receiver-friendly league and he hasn't been what I had hoped going in. I don't feel like I can trust him as an every-week starter and am thinking of benching him for Britt this week.

Anyone else looking to deal him now, and if so, what kind of interest are you getting? What do you view him as for the remainder of the season in ppr? RB2? RB3? What the heck flex?

 
In average points? Damn this dudes stretching. Well he was going in the 3-4 rounds in PPR leagues so he hasn't really lived up to that.

His best games are ahead of him but you gotta scratch your head to why he isn't more involved. You'd think it'd be obvious.

 
Sproles is RB9 on a PPG basis in my return yardage league.

He did let me down in his game against the Chargers (and I'm worried that trend could continue if Graham remains on the shelf) but otherwise I can't complain too much.

 
'texansfan80 said:
In average points? Damn this dudes stretching. Well he was going in the 3-4 rounds in PPR leagues so he hasn't really lived up to that. His best games are ahead of him but you gotta scratch your head to why he isn't more involved. You'd think it'd be obvious.
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I used average points because he's played 5 games as opposed to a number of others who have played 6. He's #17 overall if you want to just as total points (which is of course not a good way to look at things, since he's played a game less than others).In most of my leagues, 15+ running backs were drafted in the first 3-4 rounds...so again, I ask, what were you expecting out of him? He's absolutely performing at the same level as other running backs in the first 3rd or 4th round.If your answer is that you were expecting 2011 numbers, then you're insane. He finished #5 in PPR last year, and if people expected him to perform at that level again, he would have been a first round pick. A regression in scoring was factored into his ADP this season, and you're getting just that. Seems to me like you guys were just expecting too much from him.
 
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In my 1 PPR league, he is #3 in points for an RB.

Was #1 before the last weeks bye, I'm good there. :)

In another non PPR League of mine he's #9 in RB points.

(don't know what he was before the bye)

Both of those leagues, do give us return yardage points.

I drafted him according to the rulers of the leagues and

marked him accordingly, in Non PPR and No Return I would

have had him way down the scale of RB's as he doesn't rush

much or get that many TD's. (but an avid part of the team)

So it depends on Leagues how valuable he is and or will be.

 
'Ace zero1 said:
Anyone starting him this week.
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Currently have Sproles on my bench for the Muscle Hamster (in the same game) and Spiller Time.Working on several trade scenarios that might lead to Sproles getting inserted into my lineup before Sunday, though.I think Graham being hurt is BAD for Sproles based on what we saw in Week 5.
 
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'Lascelle said:
'Ace zero1 said:
Anyone starting him this week.
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Currently have Sproles on my bench for the Muscle Hamster (in the same game) and Spiller Time.Working on several trade scenarios that might lead to Sproles getting inserted into my lineup before Sunday, though.

I think Graham being hurt is BAD for Sproles based on what we saw in Week 5.
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I disagree. The last pass Brees threw in the red zone was to Sproles with an easy TD in front of him if the pass wasn't batted down at the line. He scores that TD, most people aren't worried. NO's WRs are built for speed and if Graham isn't there for the fade route, a screen to Sproles is a given at least once per set of downs in the red zone.The bigger problem this week is with no Talib, Colston/Moore/Henderson could run routes at will, so dump off passes may not be needed. He's still a decent flex play in PPR for the possible red zone looks and the occasional dump off, but with all the players out on bye, you could do worse.

 
Forget PPR, that's a short discussion.

How about non PPR?

If he has a good week this week (read somewhere that TB give up a lot of passes up to RB) I'd love to sell because he really does seem to be a role player and/or defenses are keyed in on him this year.

 
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'texansfan80 said:
In average points? Damn this dudes stretching. Well he was going in the 3-4 rounds in PPR leagues so he hasn't really lived up to that.

His best games are ahead of him but you gotta scratch your head to why he isn't more involved. You'd think it'd be obvious.
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Yes, average points. PPG is how normal people gauge how well their players are doing once the bye weeks set in.
 
In my 1PPR + return yardage league I took him at the 1st/2nd turn (14 team league) and he is RB5 so far (total points, likely higher ppg). I'm happy.

 
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Graham and Moore possibly out and you guys would sit Sproles? Stones!

Before their bye he was the 4th ranked RB in my PPR/Return league. I drafted him according to those rules and he's put up almost 20 points per game.

I say hang tight Clifford. The best is yet to come.

 
With Graham not close to being 100%, I think the next guy for Brees has to be Sproles, as a security blanket.

I'd start him with confidence!

 
In my PPR light return yard league he is RB15 and is averaging just over 19 pts with no games with less than 12 pts.

 
'Clifford said:
I'm assuming most people who used a fairly high pick on him are in ppr. I'm in a very receiver-friendly league and he hasn't been what I had hoped going in. I don't feel like I can trust him as an every-week starter and am thinking of benching him for Britt this week.Anyone else looking to deal him now, and if so, what kind of interest are you getting? What do you view him as for the remainder of the season in ppr? RB2? RB3? What the heck flex?
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I am looking to trade him in dynasty but only because he's my #3 behind ADP and Richardson. My offers have mostly been for younger WR2 types but nobody has been interested. So I'll most likely keep him. If you feel more comfortable starting Britt, who has a year-high total 62 yards and whose top game is less than Sproles average (depending on scoring, but it has to be close to that in any system). Good luck to you sir. Sproles is a top 10 RB in PPR. You're severely underrating him.
 
'HurryUpSundays said:
Graham and Moore possibly out and you guys would sit Sproles? Stones!Before their bye he was the 4th ranked RB in my PPR/Return league. I drafted him according to those rules and he's put up almost 20 points per game. I say hang tight Clifford. The best is yet to come.
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Moore is already practicing in full, so he should be playing.
 
In PPR and return yard leagues, he may not be meeting draft expectations, but should be a solid RB2+ going forward. In pure non-PPR he'll still be a decent RB2. In my non-PPR he's RB22, just below the likes of McFadden, Murray, BGE, and Doug Martin.

 
I am starting him in 2 leagues with confidence and not actively shopping him. Though I'm kicking myself for turning down a RB desperate team down on an offer for Welker. He won't do that deal now. Drafted him as a RB2, and even though he's only performed like an RB3 so far, his looks will only go up with Graham removed from the picture. I own Graham too so Sproles is a bit of a handcuff. I think better days are coming for Sproles, and the time to buy is now rather than sell. I'm going to hold unless I get a lucrative offer as he serves as a valuable depth RB and everyweek flex play. Love me some Sproles. :thumbup:

 
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He is 17th in my PPR, and I drafted him as my RB2 (12 team league, he is doing what I asked) and that is with the bye. I typically shy away from "unconventional players" (i.e. running QBs) and it is likely to my detriment, but when a RB gets a line like 5 carries, 12 yards and 5 catches for 55 yards, it isn't a bad week, but it just unnerves me. I worry at some point that the opposing defenses will take away that swing pass and he will put up 3 points in a week. I guess I prefer a little more "conventional consistency". I have Forte, Spiller, Alex Green and Sproles, and can start 3, so I will likely keep him, but I do get a pit in my stomach when I start him.

I think it is just the feel of him that scares people more than the results.

 
One good week?? He's had three good weeks, unless you are in a non-touchdown league. :lol:

Having said that, I think most of us realized before the season started that there was no way Sproles was gonna be as productive this year as he was last year.

 
'Ghost Rider said:
One good week?? He's had three good weeks, unless you are in a non-touchdown league. :lol:

Having said that, I think most of us realized before the season started that there was no way Sproles was gonna be as productive this year as he was last year.
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What led you to this realization? Payton?
 
That, and it was just hard to fathom a guy like Sproles being that ridiculous this year. Players who are used the way he is used simply are not gonna do that two years in a row. I even said in the spotlight thread on him before the season that I thought he'd still be pretty darn good this year, just not as great as last year.

 
'Ghost Rider said:
One good week?? He's had three good weeks, unless you are in a non-touchdown league. :lol: Having said that, I think most of us realized before the season started that there was no way Sproles was gonna be as productive this year as he was last year.
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Am I missing something here?Dude is on pace for 290 rushing yards90 catches752 receiving yards6.5 TDs.Sounds like a #1RB to me.Slight downtick from last year but not much.
 
I have Sproles in two leagues, and was very high on him going into the season. I am a little surprised by everyone defending this guy. He has been a HUGE disappointment. Unless you are playing in a league that awards return yardage, he is underperforming. He hasn't had more than 5 carries in a game, and has had 0 carries in multiple games.

I fully understand that PPR leagues he is doing better, but I have to think if you drafted him in a PPR league, you weren't expecting RB2 numbers out of him.

I am shocked the Saints aren't using him more. IMO, they need to give up on Ingram....and rotate Pierre and Sproles. I would even consider activating Chris Ivory to replace Ingram - the guy just isn't good.

 
'Isotopes said:
I fully understand that PPR leagues he is doing better, but I have to think if you drafted him in a PPR league, you weren't expecting RB2 numbers out of him.
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He was drafted behind all of these guys in every league I was in this year. That puts him as a RB2 in draft position, so I'm not sure why people would be upset when he performs as one. As I said before, his ADP was that of an RB2, so I'm not sure why so many people are upset that he isn't giving them RB1 production. There is a reason he wasn't drafted as one.RiceFosterMcCoyJohnsonMcfaddenForteLynchCharlesPetersonMathewsMJDJacksonMurray Richardson
 
'Ghost Rider said:
That, and it was just hard to fathom a guy like Sproles being that ridiculous this year. Players who are used the way he is used simply are not gonna do that two years in a row. I even said in the spotlight thread on him before the season that I thought he'd still be pretty darn good this year, just not as great as last year.
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I think a lot of that is on the team. They have universally underperformed. I know the bountygate fallout would hurt them but I didnt suspect by this much.
 
'Statcruncher said:
'Mello said:
'ppierce said:
lol at return yardage leagues. stupid.
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Yeah, because those yards don't mean anything to the game.
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Which punter are you starting this week?
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There's really no need in some of the comments on here. I'm sorry if your brain has a hard time factoring in different stats from a player come draft time. So many down PPR and return leagues as if their leagues are superior. Fact of the matter is, they're inferior. If you don't like the leagues your comments are better just kept to yourself.TIA
 
The good news for Sproles owners is that it seems like every time a thread like this pops up, the player in question immediately has a massive game.

 
'Isotopes said:
I have Sproles in two leagues, and was very high on him going into the season. I am a little surprised by everyone defending this guy. He has been a HUGE disappointment. Unless you are playing in a league that awards return yardage, he is underperforming. He hasn't had more than 5 carries in a game, and has had 0 carries in multiple games.

I fully understand that PPR leagues he is doing better, but I have to think if you drafted him in a PPR league, you weren't expecting RB2 numbers out of him.

I am shocked the Saints aren't using him more. IMO, they need to give up on Ingram....and rotate Pierre and Sproles. I would even consider activating Chris Ivory to replace Ingram - the guy just isn't good.
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Sounds like this is based on your unrealistically high expectations. Who cares that he had zero carries in two games? He gave you 5-35-1 receiving in one game, and 13-128-0 in the other. Yeah, that's just awful. :rolleyes:
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'Ghost Rider said:
That, and it was just hard to fathom a guy like Sproles being that ridiculous this year. Players who are used the way he is used simply are not gonna do that two years in a row. I even said in the spotlight thread on him before the season that I thought he'd still be pretty darn good this year, just not as great as last year.
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I think a lot of that is on the team. They have universally underperformed. I know the bountygate fallout would hurt them but I didnt suspect by this much.
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The team has underperformed, but Brees and Colston have still been top notch fantasy performers, and while neither has been as great as last year, Graham and Sproles have both been steady performers thus far.
 
'Shawnky said:
'Statcruncher said:
'Mello said:
'ppierce said:
lol at return yardage leagues. stupid.
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Yeah, because those yards don't mean anything to the game.
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Which punter are you starting this week?
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There's really no need in some of the comments on here. I'm sorry if your brain has a hard time factoring in different stats from a player come draft time. So many down PPR and return leagues as if their leagues are superior. Fact of the matter is, they're inferior. If you don't like the leagues your comments are better just kept to yourself.TIA
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Whoops, didn't know the board police would be on today. He made a statement implying return yardage leagues aren't stupid because return yards mean something in the game. I merely pointed out that punts mean something in a game, so according to his logic any league is flawed if they don't use punter stats. Good thing you were here to straighten me out and save this thread.
 
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'Statcruncher said:
'Shawnky said:
'Statcruncher said:
'Mello said:
'ppierce said:
lol at return yardage leagues. stupid.
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Yeah, because those yards don't mean anything to the game.
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Which punter are you starting this week?
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There's really no need in some of the comments on here. I'm sorry if your brain has a hard time factoring in different stats from a player come draft time. So many down PPR and return leagues as if their leagues are superior. Fact of the matter is, they're inferior. If you don't like the leagues your comments are better just kept to yourself.TIA
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Whoops, didn't know the board police would be on today. He made a statement implying return yardage leagues aren't stupid because return yards mean something in the game. I merely pointed out that punts mean something in a game, so according to his logic any league is flawed if they don't use punter stats. Good thing you were here to straighten me out and save this thread.
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You can stop with sarcastic, smart ### remarks. I'm far from the board police. I rarely post on these boards. My comment wasn't directed at you. It was directed at those who bash leagues that aren't what they play. Nobody cares what kind of league someone else likes. These comments are better left unsaid. They contribute nothing to the thread. I'm sorry you're overly sensitive.
 
I have been very happy with Sproles.

In my PPR/Return Yardage league he is averaging 19.15 pts per week which is 3rd in the league.

 
'Ghost Rider said:
'Run It Up said:
I think a lot of that is on the team. They have universally underperformed. I know the bountygate fallout would hurt them but I didnt suspect by this much.
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The team has underperformed, but Brees and Colston have still been top notch fantasy performers, and while neither has been as great as last year, Graham and Sproles have both been steady performers thus far.
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Don't disagree it all, only own him in one league (2PPR, no return) and I wish I owned him in more, I think he will still finish top 10 in 1PPR leagues.
 
We've added return yardage in all the leagues I'm in as of now.

Makes for more useful players, an some borderline players better.

Also getting good return yardage for an real football team can be

huge benefit for them, so making it an addition to fantasy players

for a lot of us in such leagues just makes sense.

Also makes for different draft and player strategy then just grab an

random cheat-sheet off the web and follow it blindly, just another stat.

People play in IDP player leagues, some play PPR, an some have the

Return aspect, it is all good if you know ahead of time/play accordingly.

Leagues with PPR an Return someone like Sproles can compete with top

fantasy RB's an knowing this in those leagues is great information to use.

It is all about the leagues you are in, and how your league rules are set up.

(there is no one best/only way to run fantasy leagues)

 
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