I may be alone here but I don't think AD has a huge impact this year. I can't put him at anything better than a 50\50 split with TaylorJeter23QB- YoungRB- Addai, Peterson, A GreenWR- Wayne, BruceTE- V DavisK-D-I am not crazy about Bruce as my WR2, but that is the price you pay for the RB depth I have so far.
I am not sure I totally agree, but it was at least a consideration in adding another RB so soon.I may be alone here but I don't think AD has a huge impact this year. I can't put him at anything better than a 50\50 split with TaylorJeter23QB- YoungRB- Addai, Peterson, A GreenWR- Wayne, BruceTE- V DavisK-D-I am not crazy about Bruce as my WR2, but that is the price you pay for the RB depth I have so far.
Considering you drafted him I'd say you disagree.Minn is an interesting situation. They just acquired Taylor last year. Now Peterson this year. I suspect Taylor is on his way out in 1-2 years. I also suspect they will bring AP along slowly making sure he's fully healed before they load him up. So I can see a 60-40 or 55-45 split in favor of Taylor this year. Another possible scenario is what if Minn traded Taylor this year? I guess that's a possibility.I am not sure I totally agree, but it was at least a consideration in adding another RB so soon.I may be alone here but I don't think AD has a huge impact this year. I can't put him at anything better than a 50\50 split with TaylorJeter23QB- YoungRB- Addai, Peterson, A GreenWR- Wayne, BruceTE- V DavisK-D-I am not crazy about Bruce as my WR2, but that is the price you pay for the RB depth I have so far.
yea but don't you think you could have had them in the 9th? probably even in the 10thI took the first D off the board (Chicago, round 8). Seemed to be another spot where I could get a leg up on everyone else. FWIW, last year, in SSLII I took the first TWO kickers, so this type of move is not without precedent. I know there are always those who eschew the K and D until late, stating they are too unpredictable. I agree, to a certain extent. Chicago, while not a dunk shot to finish 1st in scoring, is surely as sure a bet as there is for top 7-8. To be able to do that with any player/position at this point in the draft is a rarety.
Very possible. Still, the other fellas I am targeting will likely be there as well.yea but don't you think you could have had them in the 9th? probably even in the 10thI took the first D off the board (Chicago, round 8). Seemed to be another spot where I could get a leg up on everyone else. FWIW, last year, in SSLII I took the first TWO kickers, so this type of move is not without precedent. I know there are always those who eschew the K and D until late, stating they are too unpredictable. I agree, to a certain extent. Chicago, while not a dunk shot to finish 1st in scoring, is surely as sure a bet as there is for top 7-8. To be able to do that with any player/position at this point in the draft is a rarety.
Again, I admit that it was a bit early I probably should have grabbed a TE there but, from way back playing FF, I've always been among those that put a premium on the best Backups in the league that can take over and pretty much be plug and play on the best running teams... ie: The guy that can win you the whole thing.The Turner pick seems ridiculous to me. I just don't get it. Did you not find out about SD taking him off the trade block? not having that information is the only way this makes sense to me.
That's a hell of a memory. While I see the comparison and it's fair, I don't see their situation as the same. Holmes had an injury history that does not exist with LT. Everyone knew that you had to LJ in the 3rd/4th or someone else would. I don't think we see Turner the same.More importantly, I think there's still a possibility that Turner could end up on another team. Even though it's less likely now, it's a better possibility than LT getting injured but that's pure speculation on my part. I think the real criticism is that you could gotten him later and therefore found better value and a stronger team.Again, I admit that it was a bit early I probably should have grabbed a TE there but, from way back playing FF, I've always been among those that put a premium on the best Backups in the league that can take over and pretty much be plug and play on the best running teams... ie: The guy that can win you the whole thing.The Turner pick seems ridiculous to me. I just don't get it. Did you not find out about SD taking him off the trade block? not having that information is the only way this makes sense to me.
In 2005 in the SSL's Larry Johnson was getting drafted by FM and Bass in the 3rd and 4th round with Priest still healthy and by others in the same range without handcuffs..... that was pure speculation (plus playing an expensive handcuff by some) on Priest getting hurt, otherwise Priest wouldn't have been a top 2 pick, and those owners got paid......
I also think they kept him for a reason and he should be getting a lot more carries... I think a new coaching staff will add to that and want to keep LT healthy, also considering that next year with MT gone, they might not have anything to lean on and have to ride him a lot more.... Hey, if it were me, LT would get a TON of rest.
Again, I admit it was a tad early but, I think people are overreacting and his true value is in between the overreaction and my pick - Probably 1 round later. Switch my Taylor and Turner picks and it might make people more comfortable if they grade drafts based on prior Draft averages. I had a tier of RB's I was shooting for in those two rounds and grabbed two that work well together.
A pick that potentially can win the whole thing for you doesn't scare me as a horrible drafting Gaffe, Hey, the reason I'm here at all is cuz I drafted MJD last year before anyone else in the SSL's and set his bar...
Maybe both. He's got speed to spare and he knows how to get open and make downfiled plays. I tuought he was going to take Bruce's job but when Martz left he was on the outside looking in. When Philly was courting him Reid took time away from his family to personally meet with Curtis and get his contract in order. They really like him and are excited to have him.If Philly felt Brown was the man they would not have brought in TO, Stallworth and now Curtis. Clearly they see Brown as solid WR2 that compliments their #1. There actions the last 2-3 years bear that out IMO.So is Curtis better than Brown? Maybe. But I think the coaches are setting Curtis up for success. Remember that I always look at 3 things in determining FF success:1. Talent. They are both talented.2. Oppritunity: I'm giving the big edge to Curtis on this one because I think the coaches will make sure he's successful. You don't bring in Reid at such a critical time with his family to see a WR2.3. Motivation. I think he'll be plenty motivated to prove STL and Detroit wrong.FM why do you feel that about Curtis. I kind of always thought Curtis was a Martz System type player. Do you feel he represents better FF value than R.Brown or are you saying that he's better than Brown??
Love Fitzy & Coles. Not likely Dwill in this format because he's not even a starter so that's a huge risk in round 4. Leinart should well.I'm in the minority but I am not a huge Brown fan. He's got a lot of competition for touches so you have to hop they trade Williams away. But if he's on the team you have to get him touches.You're going to pay for the TE wiat. There's just not much left to do you enough good. A TE over Dwill would have helped IMO. Now if Dwill is indeed the starter then you may be in good shape. That pick will determine how well you do I think. You could've had any TE excpet Gonzo or Winslow. Just something to think about.QB - 5.16 Matt Leinart, QB ARI, 8RB - 1.16 Ronnie Brown, RB MIA, 92.1 Larry Fitzgerald, WR ARI, 83.16 Laverneous Coles, WR NYJ, 104.1 DeAngelo Williams, RB CAR, 76.1 Joey Galloway, WR 10Obviously I'll need a tight end and a backup QB here in the next couple rounds, but what do you think so far?
QB is still up in the air. Depends on who else you take as I don't think that Leinart's #'s will probably be a little erratic.RB is dicey. Hopefully Brown is main producer. D. Williams should get most of the load in Carl., but will probably still lose touches to Foster. Good bye week spacing so far.WR is clearly a major strength for you. On the downside, if Ariz has a rough week, that is two areas you will take the hit. Coles, Galloway and Curry are a nice supporting cast.QB - 5.16 Matt Leinart, QB ARI, 8RB - 1.16 Ronnie Brown, RB MIA, 9RB - 4.1 DeAngelo Williams, RB CAR, 7RB - 7.16 Ladell Betts, RB WAS, 4WR - 2.1 Larry Fitzgerald, WR ARI, 8WR - 3.16 Laverneous Coles, WR NYJ, 10WR - 6.1 Joey Galloway, WR TB, 10WR - 8.1 Ronald Curry, WR OAK, 5Obviously I'll need a tight end and a backup QB here in the next couple rounds, but what do you think so far?
I don't think you can compare the Priest\LJ situations. I was one that jumped on LJ early that year. Priests health was a question mark and KC had already come out saying that carries would be split to keep Priest healthy for as long as possible. I'm sure you will get RB2 numbers several weeks, but putting up a goose egg most of the time is going to hurt.Reaper said:Again, I admit that it was a bit early I probably should have grabbed a TE there but, from way back playing FF, I've always been among those that put a premium on the best Backups in the league that can take over and pretty much be plug and play on the best running teams... ie: The guy that can win you the whole thing.valence said:The Turner pick seems ridiculous to me. I just don't get it. Did you not find out about SD taking him off the trade block? not having that information is the only way this makes sense to me.
In 2005 in the SSL's Larry Johnson was getting drafted by FM and Bass in the 3rd and 4th round with Priest still healthy and by others in the same range without handcuffs..... that was pure speculation (plus playing an expensive handcuff by some) on Priest getting hurt, otherwise Priest wouldn't have been a top 2 pick, and those owners got paid......
I also think they kept him for a reason and he should be getting a lot more carries... I think a new coaching staff will add to that and want to keep LT healthy, also considering that next year with MT gone, they might not have anything to lean on and have to ride him a lot more.... Hey, if it were me, LT would get a TON of rest.
Again, I admit it was a tad early but, I think people are overreacting and his true value is in between the overreaction and my pick - Probably 1 round later. Switch my Taylor and Turner picks and it might make people more comfortable if they grade drafts based on prior Draft averages. I had a tier of RB's I was shooting for in those two rounds and grabbed two that work well together.
A pick that potentially can win the whole thing for you doesn't scare me as a horrible drafting Gaffe, Hey, the reason I'm here at all is cuz I drafted MJD last year before anyone else in the SSL's and set his bar...
I don't like that all of your RB's are splitting carries. Other than that your WR's are fantastic as is your bye week management.QB - 5.16 Matt Leinart, QB ARI, 8RB - 1.16 Ronnie Brown, RB MIA, 9RB - 4.1 DeAngelo Williams, RB CAR, 7RB - 7.16 Ladell Betts, RB WAS, 4WR - 2.1 Larry Fitzgerald, WR ARI, 8WR - 3.16 Laverneous Coles, WR NYJ, 10WR - 6.1 Joey Galloway, WR TB, 10WR - 8.1 Ronald Curry, WR OAK, 5Obviously I'll need a tight end and a backup QB here in the next couple rounds, but what do you think so far?
TL what was your thinking in Ronnie B over Edge/Willis/MJD? I currently have him listed behind all of them.Fitz-Coles-leinart are all solid picks. Joey seems long in the tooth, but fine for the format. Betts/ Deangelo will provide nice RB2 committee points. Now really TE could be a problem unless you have a sleeper pegged.QB - 5.16 Matt Leinart, QB ARI, 8RB - 1.16 Ronnie Brown, RB MIA, 9RB - 4.1 DeAngelo Williams, RB CAR, 7RB - 7.16 Ladell Betts, RB WAS, 4WR - 2.1 Larry Fitzgerald, WR ARI, 8WR - 3.16 Laverneous Coles, WR NYJ, 10WR - 6.1 Joey Galloway, WR TB, 10WR - 8.1 Ronald Curry, WR OAK, 5Obviously I'll need a tight end and a backup QB here in the next couple rounds, but what do you think so far?
Exactly. Priest went down the last 5 games of 2004 and LJ racked up stats of 700 yds and 10 TDs, establishing himself as a stud if given the opportunity and there was a good chance of that opportunity due to Priest health concerns. Regardless, KC said they would split time, so you could at least count on 10 carries for about 50 yds and possibly a TD...with a great upside if Priest couldn't stay healthy. Sure enough, half way throught he season, Priest went down and LJ went on to post ridiculous numbers.I don't think you can compare the Priest\LJ situations. I was one that jumped on LJ early that year. Priests health was a question mark and KC had already come out saying that carries would be split to keep Priest healthy for as long as possible. I'm sure you will get RB2 numbers several weeks, but putting up a goose egg most of the time is going to hurt.Reaper said:Again, I admit that it was a bit early I probably should have grabbed a TE there but, from way back playing FF, I've always been among those that put a premium on the best Backups in the league that can take over and pretty much be plug and play on the best running teams... ie: The guy that can win you the whole thing.valence said:The Turner pick seems ridiculous to me. I just don't get it. Did you not find out about SD taking him off the trade block? not having that information is the only way this makes sense to me.
In 2005 in the SSL's Larry Johnson was getting drafted by FM and Bass in the 3rd and 4th round with Priest still healthy and by others in the same range without handcuffs..... that was pure speculation (plus playing an expensive handcuff by some) on Priest getting hurt, otherwise Priest wouldn't have been a top 2 pick, and those owners got paid......
I also think they kept him for a reason and he should be getting a lot more carries... I think a new coaching staff will add to that and want to keep LT healthy, also considering that next year with MT gone, they might not have anything to lean on and have to ride him a lot more.... Hey, if it were me, LT would get a TON of rest.
Again, I admit it was a tad early but, I think people are overreacting and his true value is in between the overreaction and my pick - Probably 1 round later. Switch my Taylor and Turner picks and it might make people more comfortable if they grade drafts based on prior Draft averages. I had a tier of RB's I was shooting for in those two rounds and grabbed two that work well together.
A pick that potentially can win the whole thing for you doesn't scare me as a horrible drafting Gaffe, Hey, the reason I'm here at all is cuz I drafted MJD last year before anyone else in the SSL's and set his bar...
My team:
QB: Brees(4) & Grossman(9)
I liked Brees a tad better because of the early bye week. I knew he would provide fewer bye week conflicts with my RB/WR's. I also like Bulger and Brady. Grossman should be a solid QB2.
RB: Parker(6), Jordan(5) & Jackson(7)
If Jackson gets significant touches then I really like this group. Jordan should do well in this format with a new QB dumping off to him alot I hope.
WR: Holt(9), Curtis(5) & Engram(8)
Holt is gold. Curtis is somewhat unknown but I know Philly was hot to get him so I think he'll be a main player. BTW-I like him much better than Brown. I also feel Engram will perform as well or better than Hackett. I'm probably alone on that but Matt loves this guy.
TE: Gonzo(8)
Nuff said.
D/ST: New England(10)
I was hoping for Balt but ravnzfan beat me to it. But if you can't have Balt or Chicago then NE is a nice catch too. They always play solid and create TO's. Again, no other main player off week 10 so if I make it that far week 10 should be no issue.
This is my best draft as far as bye weeks go. For the record I find the 9 spot undersireable this year. I feel the 7/8 spot is where the best value is because you can get a top 5 RB (Addai) and still find a good RB2 or top flight TE.
This team will hang around through the byes. How far it goes will simply depend on Brees, Jackson and Curtis. If they do well then I can challenge. If not I'm dead meat after week 10.
QB: Donovan McNabb (5) Alex Smith (6)RB: Shaun Alexander (8), Caddy (10) Ricky Williams (9)WR: Terrell Owens (8), Calvin Johnson (6) Bernard Berrian (9) Michael Clayton (10)TE: LJ Smith (5)
QB- Kitna (6),Lefty (4)RB- Edge (8), Jacobs (9), Droughns (9)WR- Hines (6), Stallworth (10), Kennison (8), Williamson (5)TE- Gates (7)
Nice job of securing the Giants RB's.bicycle_seat_sniffer said:QB- Kitna (6),Lefty (4)RB- Edge (8), Jacobs (9), Droughns (9)WR- Hines (6), Stallworth (10), Kennison (8), Williamson (5)TE- Gates (7)
you don't have to draft too many times w/me to know I'm not going to own Manning/Plamer/McNabb in this formatI own a top D--TE--WR group and have solid RB's, w/plenty of "that u word"---so my QB is mehRavnzfan is looking pretty good, especially at WR. RB is about on a level with many others. But...are you that enamoured with Losman? The QB pickin's are getting mighty slim at this point. Any concerns here?
And...I was going to be the one to steal Furry in the 10th you $%#@#@$!
I just checked out the WR byes...My week 5 and 6 are horrible. Just have to hope I guess. My only real strategy in this was to take good value regardless of Bye and Position, to a point. And I did that, but the Byes are just brutal.QB- Palmer (5), Delhomme (7)RB- Westbrook (5), C Taylor (5), Norwood (8), A Peterson CHI (9)WR- Harrison (6), Holmes (6), Marshall (6)TE- Heap (8)
there is always immunity, but week 5 doesn't look any better (QB and top 2 RBs off)that's probably going to leave a mark.I just checked out the WR byes...My week 5 and 6 are horrible. Just have to hope I guess. My only real strategy in this was to take good value regardless of Bye and Position, to a point. And I did that, but the Byes are just brutal.QB- Palmer (5), Delhomme (7)RB- Westbrook (5), C Taylor (5), Norwood (8), A Peterson CHI (9)WR- Harrison (6), Holmes (6), Marshall (6)TE- Heap (8)
Yeah we'll see how it goes. Sometimes you need to deviate from your strategy a little sooner. If you take away the Bye week issues I think I have a very strong team with the WR position the only one lacking and I still see some decent WR3 and WR4s out there.there is always immunity, but week 5 doesn't look any better (QB and top 2 RBs off)that's probably going to leave a mark.I just checked out the WR byes...My week 5 and 6 are horrible. Just have to hope I guess. My only real strategy in this was to take good value regardless of Bye and Position, to a point. And I did that, but the Byes are just brutal.QB- Palmer (5), Delhomme (7)RB- Westbrook (5), C Taylor (5), Norwood (8), A Peterson CHI (9)WR- Harrison (6), Holmes (6), Marshall (6)TE- Heap (8)
If I can keep both of these guys on the field and possibly get top ten league QB scoring, then I will be happy. Definitely won't win the league on the QB scoring, but just need to stay afloat.How about Street Sense yesterday. Looked very good AND came from waaaaaaay back. Sounds like a possible winner at Belmont, if he can come through at the Preakness, it'll give you a nice race to look forward to.rzrback77...agreed that there are no real holes on your team. Still, even with the possible upside of Big Ben and Shaub, that is not exactly a duo that strikes fear into other teams I understand that you have to pick your poison, though.
talk to 'Strux Boy about week 6!you think I'm the only one sweating week 6?Week 6 will get you booted before Losman does - unless you win immunity for week 5
A buddy of mine from work and I toss in a few bucks every year and play the Triple Crown races---we caught the winning exacta and triple Saturday, good for ~$550 on $50ea investment...go figure!rzrback77 said:If I can keep both of these guys on the field and possibly get top ten league QB scoring, then I will be happy. Definitely won't win the league on the QB scoring, but just need to stay afloat.How about Street Sense yesterday. Looked very good AND came from waaaaaaay back. Sounds like a possible winner at Belmont, if he can come through at the Preakness, it'll give you a nice race to look forward to.Chaz said:rzrback77...agreed that there are no real holes on your team. Still, even with the possible upside of Big Ben and Shaub, that is not exactly a duo that strikes fear into other teams
I understand that you have to pick your poison, though.
I've gone to the Belmont since '87 and I'm still waiting for that Triple Crown. However, I am actually not rooting for it this year as I will be traveling the day after and it will be very difficult for me to attend.I agree that Street Sense looked great. Doesn't appear that he had to use up too much energy, either, which should bode well for the Preakness.If I can keep both of these guys on the field and possibly get top ten league QB scoring, then I will be happy. Definitely won't win the league on the QB scoring, but just need to stay afloat.How about Street Sense yesterday. Looked very good AND came from waaaaaaay back. Sounds like a possible winner at Belmont, if he can come through at the Preakness, it'll give you a nice race to look forward to.rzrback77...agreed that there are no real holes on your team. Still, even with the possible upside of Big Ben and Shaub, that is not exactly a duo that strikes fear into other teams I understand that you have to pick your poison, though.
Your runners look good, the two QB move was unnecessary though. You have alot of points sitting on your bench each week that could have been WR or TE points. Say Brady scores 25 and Hass scores 22, if that Hass pick had been a WR/TE that gets even 12-15 on any given week would make your team overall a lot stronger.After 12 rounds, here's how my team looks:QB: Brady(10) Hasslebeck(8)RB: Maroney (10), MJD(4), D Foster(7)WR: Chambers(9), Glenn(8), Lelie(6), Sinorice Moss(9)TE: Desmond Clark(9), Troupe(4)D: Chicago (9)Trying to get some advantages going in a couple of areas. I am dominant at QB, naturally. Hopefully, I did not give up to much elsewhere. RB should be ok. WR will be on the weaker side, for sure. I like Glenn more than Chambers. TEs will hopefully kick in some points between em. Nothing to write home about, though.Week 9 starting to look a little rough.Comments from the peanut gallery? I expect some criticism over spending too much at QB. The thing is, while many owners are hoping for 225/1-2 from the late rounders, I am hoping for 300/2+ from one of my guys.