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Stable life, meet college flame (1 Viewer)

I'm no FBG financially so the dual houses is not an option. She's separating from a high powered corporate attorney, and comes from a good bit of money (father is CFO of Fortune 500 company). She's aware im not raking it in, and says its a non issue. To her credit she's not at all materialistic, so I give her some credibility with the statement.

To the other quality replies (t bell, angry beavers, soylent green, others) thanks for the feedback. Some good stuff in some of these posts.
Jeebus Effing Christ... I'm sure these guys would make sure your life was a real dream, no?

This is starting to look like a really well executed fishing trip.

What's next... one of the two children is special needs?
I'm actually quite tight with the father. He helped facilitate our reconnection.
He helped you cheat on your wife? Sounds like you'll fit right into this family. :thumbup:

 
the deed is done, and that light bulb can't be unscrewed. so it seems like you have 3 options:

1. continue to juggle both women, acting and feeling like a total dirtbag, until you inevitably tell your wife out of pure guilt and the #### really hits the fan

2. tell your wife that it's not working out, handle it like adults, and then be free to pursue Molly Melons

3. cut off contact with the other chick, and try to not be a #### to your wife in the future

maybe I'm missing other options, but given the history and her status, it's hard to imagine you and Hindenburgs sailing off into paradise together without a hitch.
3 way with the wife.

 
I'm no FBG financially so the dual houses is not an option. She's separating from a high powered corporate attorney, and comes from a good bit of money (father is CFO of Fortune 500 company). She's aware im not raking it in, and says its a non issue. To her credit she's not at all materialistic, so I give her some credibility with the statement.

To the other quality replies (t bell, angry beavers, soylent green, others) thanks for the feedback. Some good stuff in some of these posts.
Jeebus Effing Christ... I'm sure these guys would make sure your life was a real dream, no?

This is starting to look like a really well executed fishing trip.

What's next... one of the two children is special needs?
I'm actually quite tight with the father. He helped facilitate our reconnection.
He pimped out his married daughter? :oldunsure:

On that hotel suite scale, what did the load of bullcrap you're selling in here weigh?

 
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when did this place become a Promise Keepers convention?

I say see if you can pull a three way and report back.

 
I'm no FBG financially so the dual houses is not an option. She's separating from a high powered corporate attorney, and comes from a good bit of money (father is CFO of Fortune 500 company). She's aware im not raking it in, and says its a non issue. To her credit she's not at all materialistic, so I give her some credibility with the statement.

To the other quality replies (t bell, angry beavers, soylent green, others) thanks for the feedback. Some good stuff in some of these posts.
Jeebus Effing Christ... I'm sure these guys would make sure your life was a real dream, no?

This is starting to look like a really well executed fishing trip.

What's next... one of the two children is special needs?
I'm actually quite tight with the father. He helped facilitate our reconnection.
He pimped out his married daughter? :oldunsure:

On that hotel suite scale, what did the load of bullcrap you're selling in here weigh?
Or, perhaps, he saw two old friends trying to catch up.

 
I was trying to wrangle a way you could keep the wife and the flame. Maybe we need Arizona Ron to check in here. Always look for the win-win-win unless circumstances dictate someone MUST lose.

 
I'm no FBG financially so the dual houses is not an option. She's separating from a high powered corporate attorney, and comes from a good bit of money (father is CFO of Fortune 500 company). She's aware im not raking it in, and says its a non issue. To her credit she's not at all materialistic, so I give her some credibility with the statement.

To the other quality replies (t bell, angry beavers, soylent green, others) thanks for the feedback. Some good stuff in some of these posts.
Jeebus Effing Christ... I'm sure these guys would make sure your life was a real dream, no?

This is starting to look like a really well executed fishing trip.

What's next... one of the two children is special needs?
I'm actually quite tight with the father. He helped facilitate our reconnection.
This is the part of the story we want to hear.

 
Important FBG info: Flame has much better cans (30f) than wife. Both are petite. Sorry, no pics.
I don't know you but I thought this was either sarcasm or you really don't have much respect for your wife. Do you? And if not, and no kids, why stay with her?

Sounds like you're talking yourself in to leaving her for the flame anyway, so what's holding you back?

 
Not the exact same experience, but I went through something similar. Married, with a kid, but it turned out we just didn't have anything in common. Eventually the marriage devolved into barely even spending any time in the same room together. Teh secks had long been out of the equation, and it was just a matter of "staying together for the kid". I was even given permission to go find some on the side, as long as it was outside of our social sphere and the wife didn't find out about it. Of course then she snooped and found out about it, revoked permission, and we tried therapy (three times). Things got worse again and permission was again granted, and I learned to be even more discrete (new email addresses not accessed from my phone, private browser, etc). Thanks Ashley Madison!

I had some fun, for sure, but never felt great about the situation morally even though I could (and did) justify it with the "permission" and the wife's declaration that teh secks was out of the equation (mental health issues). But I started to realize that being miserable just for sake of "staying together for the kid" wasn't worth it, life is too short. Plus, I didn't want my kid to think that's what one should expect out of a marriage - it was a terrible example. Eventually I connected on FB with someone that I did have things in common with, and all of it combined to finally give me the courage, and decency, to end the marriage.

It wasn't easy, mostly because of the child factor, and it wasn't cheap but almost 4 years later everyone is in a better place now. I have my kid 1/2 the time, the ex is engaged, and I'm still with the woman I connected with (34DD, for the record).

All that being said, my advice to OP would be to forget all about old flame and cut off contact, commit to the marriage, try the therapy route, and try to make it work. Or you just rip off the damn band aid and get a divorce. But do one or the other. It sounds like you want to do the latter, but are afraid to do so. IMO life is too short to be with someone you don't want to be with, and that goes for both you and the wife.
Oh for Christs sake. #### THIS THREAD.

 
Any chance you can do the Big Love thing and keep a wife in each of two houses? You're a FBG, after all. :boxing:
I'm no FBG financially so the dual houses is not an option. She's separating from a high powered corporate attorney, and comes from a good bit of money (father is CFO of Fortune 500 company). She's aware im not raking it in, and says its a non issue. To her credit she's not at all materialistic, so I give her some credibility with the statement.

To the other quality replies (t bell, angry beavers, soylent green, others) thanks for the feedback. Some good stuff in some of these posts.
In that case, marry her (no prenup though). I'd be the world's greatest step-dad in that situation.

 
Do you work for her Dad's corporation?

Is one of the children special needs?
No and no
How about this:

Introduce her to your wife as an old college friend. Have flame come over for Thanksgiving dinner... she doesn't have anywhere else to go, right? Have her chum-it-up with your present wife... continue like this for months. Instruct flame to treat present wife like a "sister wife". Get both ladies on board with the plan... you CAN do it!!

 


Important FBG info: Flame has much better cans (30f) than wife. Both are petite. Sorry, no pics.
I don't know you but I thought this was either sarcasm or you really don't have much respect for your wife. Do you? And if not, and no kids, why stay with her?

Sounds like you're talking yourself in to leaving her for the flame anyway, so what's holding you back?
That was "shtick". Like I said I'm more of a lurker here so I figured throwing out a comedic bone was par for the course.

 
Butterface? Overall scale?
Yes. There was one in the suite, try to keep up, thanks
Traditional facial beauty, wife is an 8.5 and flame is a 7.5. I'm far more attracted to flame overall. Always have been. Always will be.
Sounds like you've already made your mind up, why come to the board and ask for advice when all you really need to do is quit being a ###### and end things with your wife? Enjoy that greener grass for a season and report back when you realize how good you had it before.

 
Not the exact same experience, but I went through something similar. Married, with a kid, but it turned out we just didn't have anything in common. Eventually the marriage devolved into barely even spending any time in the same room together. Teh secks had long been out of the equation, and it was just a matter of "staying together for the kid". I was even given permission to go find some on the side, as long as it was outside of our social sphere and the wife didn't find out about it. Of course then she snooped and found out about it, revoked permission, and we tried therapy (three times). Things got worse again and permission was again granted, and I learned to be even more discrete (new email addresses not accessed from my phone, private browser, etc). Thanks Ashley Madison!

I had some fun, for sure, but never felt great about the situation morally even though I could (and did) justify it with the "permission" and the wife's declaration that teh secks was out of the equation (mental health issues). But I started to realize that being miserable just for sake of "staying together for the kid" wasn't worth it, life is too short. Plus, I didn't want my kid to think that's what one should expect out of a marriage - it was a terrible example. Eventually I connected on FB with someone that I did have things in common with, and all of it combined to finally give me the courage, and decency, to end the marriage.

It wasn't easy, mostly because of the child factor, and it wasn't cheap but almost 4 years later everyone is in a better place now. I have my kid 1/2 the time, the ex is engaged, and I'm still with the woman I connected with (34DD, for the record).

All that being said, my advice to OP would be to forget all about old flame and cut off contact, commit to the marriage, try the therapy route, and try to make it work. Or you just rip off the damn band aid and get a divorce. But do one or the other. It sounds like you want to do the latter, but are afraid to do so. IMO life is too short to be with someone you don't want to be with, and that goes for both you and the wife.
Oh for Christs sake. #### THIS THREAD.
Am I the only FBG whose wife has normal teddies (36C)?

 
Not the exact same experience, but I went through something similar. Married, with a kid, but it turned out we just didn't have anything in common. Eventually the marriage devolved into barely even spending any time in the same room together. Teh secks had long been out of the equation, and it was just a matter of "staying together for the kid". I was even given permission to go find some on the side, as long as it was outside of our social sphere and the wife didn't find out about it. Of course then she snooped and found out about it, revoked permission, and we tried therapy (three times). Things got worse again and permission was again granted, and I learned to be even more discrete (new email addresses not accessed from my phone, private browser, etc). Thanks Ashley Madison!

I had some fun, for sure, but never felt great about the situation morally even though I could (and did) justify it with the "permission" and the wife's declaration that teh secks was out of the equation (mental health issues). But I started to realize that being miserable just for sake of "staying together for the kid" wasn't worth it, life is too short. Plus, I didn't want my kid to think that's what one should expect out of a marriage - it was a terrible example. Eventually I connected on FB with someone that I did have things in common with, and all of it combined to finally give me the courage, and decency, to end the marriage.

It wasn't easy, mostly because of the child factor, and it wasn't cheap but almost 4 years later everyone is in a better place now. I have my kid 1/2 the time, the ex is engaged, and I'm still with the woman I connected with (34DD, for the record).

All that being said, my advice to OP would be to forget all about old flame and cut off contact, commit to the marriage, try the therapy route, and try to make it work. Or you just rip off the damn band aid and get a divorce. But do one or the other. It sounds like you want to do the latter, but are afraid to do so. IMO life is too short to be with someone you don't want to be with, and that goes for both you and the wife.
Oh for Christs sake. #### THIS THREAD.
Am I the only FBG whose wife has normal teddies (36C)?
My wife's are 34C. Did you know she's Chinese?

 
Not the exact same experience, but I went through something similar. Married, with a kid, but it turned out we just didn't have anything in common. Eventually the marriage devolved into barely even spending any time in the same room together. Teh secks had long been out of the equation, and it was just a matter of "staying together for the kid". I was even given permission to go find some on the side, as long as it was outside of our social sphere and the wife didn't find out about it. Of course then she snooped and found out about it, revoked permission, and we tried therapy (three times). Things got worse again and permission was again granted, and I learned to be even more discrete (new email addresses not accessed from my phone, private browser, etc). Thanks Ashley Madison!

I had some fun, for sure, but never felt great about the situation morally even though I could (and did) justify it with the "permission" and the wife's declaration that teh secks was out of the equation (mental health issues). But I started to realize that being miserable just for sake of "staying together for the kid" wasn't worth it, life is too short. Plus, I didn't want my kid to think that's what one should expect out of a marriage - it was a terrible example. Eventually I connected on FB with someone that I did have things in common with, and all of it combined to finally give me the courage, and decency, to end the marriage.

It wasn't easy, mostly because of the child factor, and it wasn't cheap but almost 4 years later everyone is in a better place now. I have my kid 1/2 the time, the ex is engaged, and I'm still with the woman I connected with (34DD, for the record).

All that being said, my advice to OP would be to forget all about old flame and cut off contact, commit to the marriage, try the therapy route, and try to make it work. Or you just rip off the damn band aid and get a divorce. But do one or the other. It sounds like you want to do the latter, but are afraid to do so. IMO life is too short to be with someone you don't want to be with, and that goes for both you and the wife.
Oh for Christs sake. #### THIS THREAD.
Am I the only FBG whose wife has normal teddies (36C)?
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=720375&p=17454845

 
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Not the exact same experience, but I went through something similar. Married, with a kid, but it turned out we just didn't have anything in common. Eventually the marriage devolved into barely even spending any time in the same room together. Teh secks had long been out of the equation, and it was just a matter of "staying together for the kid". I was even given permission to go find some on the side, as long as it was outside of our social sphere and the wife didn't find out about it. Of course then she snooped and found out about it, revoked permission, and we tried therapy (three times). Things got worse again and permission was again granted, and I learned to be even more discrete (new email addresses not accessed from my phone, private browser, etc). Thanks Ashley Madison!

I had some fun, for sure, but never felt great about the situation morally even though I could (and did) justify it with the "permission" and the wife's declaration that teh secks was out of the equation (mental health issues). But I started to realize that being miserable just for sake of "staying together for the kid" wasn't worth it, life is too short. Plus, I didn't want my kid to think that's what one should expect out of a marriage - it was a terrible example. Eventually I connected on FB with someone that I did have things in common with, and all of it combined to finally give me the courage, and decency, to end the marriage.

It wasn't easy, mostly because of the child factor, and it wasn't cheap but almost 4 years later everyone is in a better place now. I have my kid 1/2 the time, the ex is engaged, and I'm still with the woman I connected with (34DD, for the record).

All that being said, my advice to OP would be to forget all about old flame and cut off contact, commit to the marriage, try the therapy route, and try to make it work. Or you just rip off the damn band aid and get a divorce. But do one or the other. It sounds like you want to do the latter, but are afraid to do so. IMO life is too short to be with someone you don't want to be with, and that goes for both you and the wife.
Oh for Christs sake. #### THIS THREAD.
Am I the only FBG whose wife has normal teddies (36C)?
:lol:

There are probably a few different sizes in play, all of them "normal."

 
Butterface? Overall scale?
Yes. There was one in the suite, try to keep up, thanks
Traditional facial beauty, wife is an 8.5 and flame is a 7.5. I'm far more attracted to flame overall. Always have been. Always will be.
Sounds like you've already made your mind up, why come to the board and ask for advice when all you really need to do is quit being a ###### and end things with your wife? Enjoy that greener grass for a season and report back when you realize how good you had it before.
:lmao: at this being posted by a guy named "Arbitrator".

 
Not the exact same experience, but I went through something similar. Married, with a kid, but it turned out we just didn't have anything in common. Eventually the marriage devolved into barely even spending any time in the same room together. Teh secks had long been out of the equation, and it was just a matter of "staying together for the kid". I was even given permission to go find some on the side, as long as it was outside of our social sphere and the wife didn't find out about it. Of course then she snooped and found out about it, revoked permission, and we tried therapy (three times). Things got worse again and permission was again granted, and I learned to be even more discrete (new email addresses not accessed from my phone, private browser, etc). Thanks Ashley Madison!

I had some fun, for sure, but never felt great about the situation morally even though I could (and did) justify it with the "permission" and the wife's declaration that teh secks was out of the equation (mental health issues). But I started to realize that being miserable just for sake of "staying together for the kid" wasn't worth it, life is too short. Plus, I didn't want my kid to think that's what one should expect out of a marriage - it was a terrible example. Eventually I connected on FB with someone that I did have things in common with, and all of it combined to finally give me the courage, and decency, to end the marriage.

It wasn't easy, mostly because of the child factor, and it wasn't cheap but almost 4 years later everyone is in a better place now. I have my kid 1/2 the time, the ex is engaged, and I'm still with the woman I connected with (34DD, for the record).

All that being said, my advice to OP would be to forget all about old flame and cut off contact, commit to the marriage, try the therapy route, and try to make it work. Or you just rip off the damn band aid and get a divorce. But do one or the other. It sounds like you want to do the latter, but are afraid to do so. IMO life is too short to be with someone you don't want to be with, and that goes for both you and the wife.
Oh for Christs sake. #### THIS THREAD.
Am I the only FBG whose wife has normal teddies (36C)?
poll

 
Not the exact same experience, but I went through something similar. Married, with a kid, but it turned out we just didn't have anything in common. Eventually the marriage devolved into barely even spending any time in the same room together. Teh secks had long been out of the equation, and it was just a matter of "staying together for the kid". I was even given permission to go find some on the side, as long as it was outside of our social sphere and the wife didn't find out about it. Of course then she snooped and found out about it, revoked permission, and we tried therapy (three times). Things got worse again and permission was again granted, and I learned to be even more discrete (new email addresses not accessed from my phone, private browser, etc). Thanks Ashley Madison!

I had some fun, for sure, but never felt great about the situation morally even though I could (and did) justify it with the "permission" and the wife's declaration that teh secks was out of the equation (mental health issues). But I started to realize that being miserable just for sake of "staying together for the kid" wasn't worth it, life is too short. Plus, I didn't want my kid to think that's what one should expect out of a marriage - it was a terrible example. Eventually I connected on FB with someone that I did have things in common with, and all of it combined to finally give me the courage, and decency, to end the marriage.

It wasn't easy, mostly because of the child factor, and it wasn't cheap but almost 4 years later everyone is in a better place now. I have my kid 1/2 the time, the ex is engaged, and I'm still with the woman I connected with (34DD, for the record).

All that being said, my advice to OP would be to forget all about old flame and cut off contact, commit to the marriage, try the therapy route, and try to make it work. Or you just rip off the damn band aid and get a divorce. But do one or the other. It sounds like you want to do the latter, but are afraid to do so. IMO life is too short to be with someone you don't want to be with, and that goes for both you and the wife.
Oh for Christs sake. #### THIS THREAD.
Am I the only FBG whose wife has normal teddies (36C)?
My wife's are 34C. Did you know she's Chinese?
I'm fairly certain that my wife knows your wife is Chinese.

 
brohans times were that when you stood up in a church and took a vow in front of your family and hers and all your friends and the big kahuna himself it meant half a damn but the more i live the more i see that all it takes is a few clicks with some old pantscandy on a mytwitter or facebook and bam all that goes to hell it is a pretty sad state if you ask me take that to the bank brohans
:goodposting:

 
Well anything new is going to be better (or at least in your little head it is better). Why in the hell would any guy leave his wife for a woman with 2 kids? Dude if you wanted some strange to fill a void go to Vegas and get it done professionally. A little advice to all you FBG's

The ####### you get...is not going to be worth the ####### you are going to get.

 
Well anything new is going to be better (or at least in your little head it is better). Why in the hell would any guy leave his wife for a woman with 2 kids? Dude if you wanted some strange to fill a void go to Vegas and get it done professionally. A little advice to all you FBG's

The ####### you get...is not going to be worth the ####### you are going to get.
I suck!

I can never figure out what the ########### are.

After a few attempts and counting the #'s I just give up and feel like the only one who doesn't get a joke

 
Well anything new is going to be better (or at least in your little head it is better). Why in the hell would any guy leave his wife for a woman with 2 kids? Dude if you wanted some strange to fill a void go to Vegas and get it done professionally. A little advice to all you FBG's

The ####### you get...is not going to be worth the ####### you are going to get.
I suck!

I can never figure out what the ########### are.

After a few attempts and counting the #'s I just give up and feel like the only one who doesn't get a joke
Glad it's just not me counting pound signs and scratching my head.

 
Well anything new is going to be better (or at least in your little head it is better). Why in the hell would any guy leave his wife for a woman with 2 kids? Dude if you wanted some strange to fill a void go to Vegas and get it done professionally. A little advice to all you FBG's

The ####### you get...is not going to be worth the ####### you are going to get.
The sex was great, but this is 20% about the sex and 80% about the woman. I've done the "strange" thing in and after school. It was fun. Not really my thing anymore.
 
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Well anything new is going to be better (or at least in your little head it is better). Why in the hell would any guy leave his wife for a woman with 2 kids? Dude if you wanted some strange to fill a void go to Vegas and get it done professionally. A little advice to all you FBG's

The ####### you get...is not going to be worth the ####### you are going to get.
I suck!

I can never figure out what the ########### are.

After a few attempts and counting the #'s I just give up and feel like the only one who doesn't get a joke
Glad it's just not me counting pound signs and scratching my head.
It's me too. I don't think the number of pound signs matches what is being replaced.

Somewhere I think Aaron is laughing about this

 
Well anything new is going to be better (or at least in your little head it is better). Why in the hell would any guy leave his wife for a woman with 2 kids? Dude if you wanted some strange to fill a void go to Vegas and get it done professionally. A little advice to all you FBG's

The ####### you get...is not going to be worth the ####### you are going to get.
I suck!

I can never figure out what the ########### are.

After a few attempts and counting the #'s I just give up and feel like the only one who doesn't get a joke
Glad it's just not me counting pound signs and scratching my head.
It's me too. I don't think the number of pound signs matches what is being replaced.

Somewhere I think Aaron is laughing about this
Mother ########. :hot:

 
Well anything new is going to be better (or at least in your little head it is better). Why in the hell would any guy leave his wife for a woman with 2 kids
I agree with this entirely... my guess is that it turns maybe the guy did want kids, his life feels somewhat unfulfilled, and maybe a ready made family with a chick with 30F's is a way to kill 2 unfulfilled needs with one stone.... now it's still dumb, but maybe that's the reasoning.

 
Well anything new is going to be better (or at least in your little head it is better). Why in the hell would any guy leave his wife for a woman with 2 kids
I agree with this entirely... my guess is that it turns maybe the guy did want kids, his life feels somewhat unfulfilled, and maybe a ready made family with a chick with 30F's is a way to kill 2 unfulfilled needs with one stone.... now it's still dumb, but maybe that's the reasoning.
She's going to get a good settlement out of her divorce and her dad is CFO of a Fortune 500 company. You of all people should understand.

 
:useless: just blur some faces out
Sorry, not comfortable going down that road. I realize that puts a damper on things. Apologies.
come on you have to at least snapped a pic of her fun bags. lets see it. I hope you used the new Note 4 phone with its wide angle lens otherwise theres no way a a pair of 30F's fits in one pic. Did you photo each one individually? Bet you did. What is her pet name for them? Also were the areola the size of pancakes and the nips Dots candy sized?

 

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