Staffords perceived ff death is a fallacy (1 Viewer)

[BobbyLayne]

guy has been a top 3 qb from the week this was posted.

This is a mostly true statement. After the Bears games - this was posted the day of the MNF game, so we'll say games after that to put this in the best possible light - in those 5 starts, he's #3 on a PPG. That includes yesterday, his most productive game of the season from a FF perspective.Do you know what he was in the middle three of those five games? QB12. Bet that has been the key to a lot of championship FF seasons. Nothing better than trading for a buy low and he puts up QB19 and QB22 numbers 2 out of 3 weeks. Oh, and the first 7 weeks, which includes the Bears game? Four out of seven were QB2 clunkers (between QB14 and QB24).Guy has been a dud this year for anyone who counted on him. Which doesn't include me, but more power to you if you think he's going to win you a title this year.

 

[Time Kibitzer]

Traded Ahmad Bradshaw for him about 4 weeks ago because Philip Rivers and Jay Cutler were not cutting it.Best trade I've made all year.

At least this guy got it. The rest of the responses today guy has been a top 3 qb from the week this was posted. Was even posted before Chicago debacle saying his life is low now, if he puts up a stinker you can get for peanuts. He did,you could, and people still notching about the first guy who drafted him. Hilarious.

Not everyone plays in redraft leagues Hip.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I really like Stafford...

But how does his pace for 4778 yards this season surpass the 5038 he threw for last year?

Also, I doubt us owners are excited about his 13/16 TD/INT pace he is on this year vs. the 41/16 he finished with last year.

Might have phrased this wrong. As of game 6 this year he has passed for more yards than he had thru game 6 last year. I'm not even saying he will equal or surpass last years numbers. But I don't think so much has changed from last year to justify the change in perceived value. He can be had in a trade for about 50 100 guys. I think ff people especially equate what happens with talent and not luck/matchups/penalties/ drops etc.

Maybe he's a slow starter? I dunno. But I do know this. The lions d is meh and he will be asked to throw a lot with that schedule. But he caught fire and tore it up the last half of last year, I think chances are fairly good he an do it again down the stretch this year...

Updated... Wow what a #### show last night. I hear burleson is one for the year (broken leg) and bobbylane (broken heart) is out for life.

But we knew the bears D is stout, especially vs the pass. But for all the darkness, the lions were in the redzone 4x. But 2 fumbles and the 4th down sop/desperation int later...

Silver lining, you can likely get Stafford now for a bag of peanuts. I'm gonna test the waters and see if the previously "off the market" Calvin Johnson owners have changed their minds.

He's not passing the eyeball test right now despite how many yards he's thrown for. He seems a bit anxious in the pocket and is hurrying his throws resulting in over throws and general inaccuracy.

It's not all his fault though. He should have have at least twice the TDs if Pettigrew, Young and yes even Calvin wouldn't have dropped TD passes.

I'm not going to disagree with you. The time to buy is either right now or never. The minute he puts together 4 quarters, you won't get him.

Exactly. If I had my druthers his price will be much higher in about 3 hours. But CHI d is really good. If he puts up a mediocre/bad game on mnf I'm gonna fleece the Stafford owners like Bain Capitol fleeces floundering companies!

As you see I clearly said odds were he would muck it up in the chi game and that would even make his value greater. No way you count that week for purposes of evaluating this. Since then he's been money, and you likely could have gotten him for Reggie bush/Bradshaw/even Stewart if owners bought into his starter hype.

 

[Ladsud]

Not sure what you would consider "money" in terms of fantasy but I would count it as a consistent week in week out player. Add it up and the numbers are there but this is a week to week game and the purpose is to strive for steady numbers correct? Its not that he has a bad game here or there, the season is a complete yo yo.

8 Sea 352 3 1 / 0 31

9 @Jac 285 0 0 / 0 11

10 @Min 329 3 1 / 0 24

11 GB 266 1 2 / 1 9

12 Hou 441 2 0 / 0 25

 

[BobbyLayne]

Not sure what you would consider "money" in terms of fantasy but I would count it as a consistent week in week out player. Add it up and the numbers are there but this is a week to week game and the purpose is to strive for steady numbers correct? Its not that he has a bad game here or there, the season is a complete yo yo. 8 Sea 352 3 1 / 0 319 @Jac 285 0 0 / 0 1110 @Min 329 3 1 / 0 2411 GB 266 1 2 / 1 912 Hou 441 2 0 / 0 25

 

[Short Corner]

Hes 7th in mine just behind Ryan right now

And Ryan could have been had 4 rounds later.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Hes 7th in mine just behind Ryan right now

And Ryan could have been had 4 rounds later.

Martin is top RB in the league right now and could have been had 4 rounds later than Foster and Rice. What is your point here?

Positional scarcity, VBD, etc

 

[Bri]

Broyles' hands are great. I think the target stats are off a little and some misses aren't fair to be credited to him. KFFL has him at 67% with three games of 100%.....that's nearly half the games he caught everything.

Add in Calvin's phenomenal hands and way more targets.

Their TE has had plenty of 6-8 catch games which is high for ordinary TEs normal for elite TEs.

Next year, when Broyles has a definitive spot and is comfy and all, it'll be pretty hard to understand Stafford not putting up better numbers.

Arizona I'll throw some credit to, moving Fitz after he struggled early has really helped them.You can see D's worrying where he is, who has him etc. I have zero ambition to see big Calvin in the slot, but if it makes a D panic like that for one play...

Anyhow, I wouldn't want to be Stafford. I've seen people here gripe already about Calvin's stats from time to time with him (seeming to) catching everything. Stafford is in a very very odd spot as a QB. We usually discuss time to throw, guys getting open/separation and all sorts of things but with Stafford the mindset seems to be like a playground chuck it, he'll catch it.

 

[meanjoegreen]

Broyles' hands are great. I think the target stats are off a little and some misses aren't fair to be credited to him. KFFL has him at 67% with three games of 100%.....that's nearly half the games he caught everything.Add in Calvin's phenomenal hands and way more targets.Their TE has had plenty of 6-8 catch games which is high for ordinary TEs normal for elite TEs.Next year, when Broyles has a definitive spot and is comfy and all, it'll be pretty hard to understand Stafford not putting up better numbers.Anyhow, I wouldn't want to be Stafford. I've seen people here gripe already about Calvin's stats from time to time with him (seeming to) catching everything. Stafford is in a very very odd spot as a QB. We usually discuss time to throw, guys getting open/separation and all sorts of things but with Stafford the mindset seems to be like a playground chuck it, he'll catch it.

Calvin has had more drops than usual this year, and he fumbled the ball against GB, which killed the Lions chance to score one more time. Pettigrew has had a lot of drops this season. Stafford has been inaccurate some with his throws, but his receivers haven't exactly been consistent either.

 

[Ladsud]

What are people expecting from Stafford this week? Hes coming off two pretty good games, the last time he played GB he only managed 9 points and is now down to a 3rd string WR that wasnt on the team a few weeks ago and a TE in the slot. He did put up 500/5 last year in GB but the supporting cast is now what it was.

 

[lod01]

Big numbers now that the team has totally pissed away a shot at the playoffs. Passes into the endzone to Calvin Johnson in the redzone instead of running the ball and kicking a FG. A novel idea. They will score 7 instead of 3. I noticed a ton of passes to Calvin Johnson right out of the gate last week instead of the ususal 1 or 2 passes before halftime. Lots more of that.

 

[Awful Waffle]

Either a shoot out or GB goes up big and he gets garbage time points.

I'm thinking 375 yards/4 TD's/2 INT's is a very real possibility.

 

[The Captain]

How's the weather looking in GB?

 

[UncleZen]

This game feels like a trap again. I thought his last game against GB was going to be a shootout and was let down. Here I am again with the choice between him and Schaub and I think I am going with Schaub. The yardage is nice but I need TD's.

 

[Ladsud]

24/50 246/0/3 = death

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

He was still better than Eli and Brady quinn.



Looked like he may have gotten injured in the first half. At least he kept throwing to megatron.

 

[jah2707]

How the heck can this site still project him to get 23 points? He only has one player that can catch the ball. Stupid keeper should have kept Lynch.