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the more I think about it, the more brilliant it was to rehash ANH. It brings the bond between the old (me) and new (my kids) together. In fact, we saw episode 7 one day after we watched episode 4. Neither of my kids mentioned one thing like, hey we saw this movie yesterday. I've said this before in here, ill say it again. Well done JJ. And im willing to bet that a large amount of people who say they didnt like it will still see 8 when it comes outYea I hate that Disney made a movie that they knew everybody would love.
Some of the comments in here are bordering on parody now.
Bro....do you think she knows that a female baby came out of her ######? Carrie Fisher probably wouldn't realize it...but I'd hope the Leia character would.
Disney said that all the books and other things produced in the Star Wars universe was no longer canon. Now it's the movies, one novel that came out recently and I think the cartoons.
This was a reboot. Pure and simple. I know not every reboot can match the new Point Break, but as noted, a new generation can now start where we did, and allow the new twists come with the final two. Top notch graphics to update from what had been, by far, the best ever... 40 years ago!the more I think about it, the more brilliant it was to rehash ANH. It brings the bond between the old (me) and new (my kids) together. In fact, we saw episode 7 one day after we watched episode 4. Neither of my kids mentioned one thing like, hey we saw this movie yesterday.I've said this before in here, ill say it again. Well done JJ. And im willing to bet that a large amount of people who say they didnt like it will still see 8 when it comes outYea I hate that Disney made a movie that they knew everybody would love.
Some of the comments in here are bordering on parody now.
Books have been dismissed except for the parts they like. Then they've taken them and changed the names. I think Rey is a Solo also.
That doesn't mean they aren't stealing from them. Disney just didn't want two canonized timelines.
I've thought about this also.. Not for 2 hour, but those reaching the 3 hour mark..
is 5 minutes enough?? Probably not.. and if you give a 5 minute break and someone doesn't make it back in time due to the lines they are going to be 
..
Just watched ANH last night. While the big points are certainly derivative, ANH handles the finer details way better. Everything about the galaxy that we need to know is given in little tidbits. Nothing obtrusive like Senate hearings or long exposition. They have brief conversations (like Obiwan with the force and even Han interjecting skepticism) explaining key things. We don't need random characters coming up out of nowhere to say "hey I'm not going to tell you how I got this ligtsaber but the force yea you got it kid, so have this thing."This was a reboot. Pure and simple. I know not every reboot can match the new Point Break, but as noted, a new generation can now start where we did, and allow the new twists come with the final two. Top notch graphics to update from what had been, by far, the best ever... 40 years ago!the more I think about it, the more brilliant it was to rehash ANH. It brings the bond between the old (me) and new (my kids) together. In fact, we saw episode 7 one day after we watched episode 4. Neither of my kids mentioned one thing like, hey we saw this movie yesterday.I've said this before in here, ill say it again. Well done JJ. And im willing to bet that a large amount of people who say they didnt like it will still see 8 when it comes outYea I hate that Disney made a movie that they knew everybody would love.
Some of the comments in here are bordering on parody now.
I keep going back to the simplistic style of that original - its a galactic western. Good guys vs bad, boom boom KABOOM!
Plus, as a 42 year old, the scenes (i.e. going into the channels on the final approaches of the xwings) transported me back to being 5 years old and my first ever movie memories and emotions.
This is gotta be a late nominee for funniest post of the year. Yeah, this movie was citizen Kane and we just didn't understand it.
He's right. Most of the complaints were that you didn't get enough information right away.This is gotta be a late nominee for funniest post of the year. Yeah, this movie was citizen Kane and we just didn't understand it.
Not really. Most the complaints were that it's a rehash of the ANH and the characters were weak.He's right. Most of the complaints were that you didn't get enough information right away.This is gotta be a late nominee for funniest post of the year. Yeah, this movie was citizen Kane and we just didn't understand it.
It's about how they handled it in 8...they did so poorly, IMO. We get told Han is Ren's father BEFORE the Ren/Vader mask scene. Having Ren say "grandfather" to the mask before knowing who his parents are would have been awesomely great. We get that bit of "which one is Ren's parent??" for a while watching the story unfold. Instead it's thrown in our face and the Ren/Mask scene is wasted.He's right. Most of the complaints were that you didn't get enough information right away.This is gotta be a late nominee for funniest post of the year. Yeah, this movie was citizen Kane and we just didn't understand it.
How long has this book been out? Does it seem like one of those books that was written after the movie was made?
Because there is no such thing as a 5 min intermission. 10-12 min, minimum. They will want you to get food etc, you need to hit the head... prob 15 min.
Can't really argue with anything you said. And why I am still glad I skipped 1-3. When I am all done with these, I'll go back and check them out for the eye porn if nothing else.Just watched ANH last night. While the big points are certainly derivative, ANH handles the finer details way better. Everything about the galaxy that we need to know is given in little tidbits. Nothing obtrusive like Senate hearings or long exposition. They have brief conversations (like Obiwan with the force and even Han interjecting skepticism) explaining key things. We don't need random characters coming up out of nowhere to say "hey I'm not going to tell you how I got this ligtsaber but the force yea you got it kid, so have this thing."This was a reboot. Pure and simple. I know not every reboot can match the new Point Break, but as noted, a new generation can now start where we did, and allow the new twists come with the final two. Top notch graphics to update from what had been, by far, the best ever... 40 years ago!the more I think about it, the more brilliant it was to rehash ANH. It brings the bond between the old (me) and new (my kids) together. In fact, we saw episode 7 one day after we watched episode 4. Neither of my kids mentioned one thing like, hey we saw this movie yesterday.I've said this before in here, ill say it again. Well done JJ. And im willing to bet that a large amount of people who say they didnt like it will still see 8 when it comes outYea I hate that Disney made a movie that they knew everybody would love.
Some of the comments in here are bordering on parody now.
I keep going back to the simplistic style of that original - its a galactic western. Good guys vs bad, boom boom KABOOM!
Plus, as a 42 year old, the scenes (i.e. going into the channels on the final approaches of the xwings) transported me back to being 5 years old and my first ever movie memories and emotions.
We get the scene with the Imperial command debating the merits of kidnapping a senator and that set ups the entire power structure of the galaxy. Alderaan is mentioned by Obiwan at about the 40 min mark of the movie and it isn't destroyed till the 80 minute mark. We have a lot of time to digest that out heroes are headed to this planet and the Empire just destroys it merely as a test. We are invested in its destruction.
Luke was no where near overpowered. He hardly showed any force powers in the film at all. Once on the Falcon with the drone and at the end with the torpedo. But we hear from people like Biggs how good a pilot Luke really is. So its not a surprise when he is not only a mission to fly against the Empire ( cause let's face it they're desperate) but that he can hold his own. Yet even he still has trouble against a tie fighter and needs Wedge to bail him out. So he's not perfect.
Episode 7 is not a remake of ANH. They borrow lots of scenes and ideas from it and they keep it simple but TFA lacks the little details that made ANH great all for the sake of "mystery" and a big reveal later.
My rankings are still 5, 4, 6, 7, 3, 1, 2.
Maybe theaters eventually will offer some showings with and intermission and others without. I just don't get a beverage for most movies.Because there is no such thing as a 5 min intermission. 10-12 min, minimum. They will want you to get food etc, you need to hit the head... prob 15 min.
People complaining about either of those are dumb.Not really. Most the complaints were that it's a rehash of the ANH and the characters were weak.He's right. Most of the complaints were that you didn't get enough information right away.This is gotta be a late nominee for funniest post of the year. Yeah, this movie was citizen Kane and we just didn't understand it.
I agree they should have strung that out more and wasted the grandfather scene.It's about how they handled it in 8...they did so poorly, IMO. We get told Han is Ren's father BEFORE the Ren/Vader mask scene. Having Ren say "grandfather" to the mask before knowing who his parents are would have been awesomely great. We get that bit of "which one is Ren's parent??" for a while watching the story unfold. Instead it's thrown in our face and the Ren/Mask scene is wasted.He's right. Most of the complaints were that you didn't get enough information right away.This is gotta be a late nominee for funniest post of the year. Yeah, this movie was citizen Kane and we just didn't understand it.
Would have been like this happening in 4-
Luke- "whatever happened to my father?"
Obi-Wan "Oh, he's Vader. You didn't know that?"
Your face is dumb.People complaining about either of those are dumb.Not really. Most the complaints were that it's a rehash of the ANH and the characters were weak.He's right. Most of the complaints were that you didn't get enough information right away.This is gotta be a late nominee for funniest post of the year. Yeah, this movie was citizen Kane and we just didn't understand it.
Lol. Enjoy the new Point Break.People complaining about either of those are dumb.Not really. Most the complaints were that it's a rehash of the ANH and the characters were weak.He's right. Most of the complaints were that you didn't get enough information right away.This is gotta be a late nominee for funniest post of the year. Yeah, this movie was citizen Kane and we just didn't understand it.
But I also don't think it's too much to ask to have the new movie explain how the power balance in the universe is right back to the way it was right before ROTJ. I mean, after a whole trilogy of fighting the empire and finally winning it all went to hell in 30 years? Why can't we get cliffnotes of that?He's right. Most of the complaints were that you didn't get enough information right away.This is gotta be a late nominee for funniest post of the year. Yeah, this movie was citizen Kane and we just didn't understand it.
They'll sell it to is in the new EU. Kind of like games sell DLC now for key plot points.But I also don't think it's too much to ask to have the new movie explain how the power balance in the universe is right back to the way it was right before ROTJ. I mean, after a whole trilogy of fighting the empire and finally winning it all went to hell in 30 years? Why can't we get cliffnotes of that?He's right. Most of the complaints were that you didn't get enough information right away.This is gotta be a late nominee for funniest post of the year. Yeah, this movie was citizen Kane and we just didn't understand it.
I don't blame Disney for making it, I blame you for loving it.Yea I hate that Disney made a movie that they knew everybody would love.
Some of the comments in here are bordering on parody now.
It was awesome. Seen it twice.I don't blame Disney for making it, I blame you for loving it.Yea I hate that Disney made a movie that they knew everybody would love.
Some of the comments in here are bordering on parody now.
you should read some of the thread. There have been some very good speculation on why this happened.
I agree. There was some implausible things that happened in ST but it was a fun ride with nostalgia that touched on the past and even gave us scenes only mentioned in the series (Kirk's Kobayashi Maru test). ST Into Darkness took a few too many liberties with Wrath of Khan for my liking much like TFA does from ANH. But both are still good movies. Just not great.
I like debating theories. Just wish they didn't leave it all up to us to figure out for them.
Agree. Those scenes setting up all the Trek characters were so good, serious nerdboner stuff. Just perfectly done. The actors were perfectly cast.
I guess it's just me, but this script was hilariously bad. Given that JJ came off of two terrific Star Trek movies this was a big step down (and, for the record, I like both franchises). The MF just sitting there in a junkyard in the wastes of a desert backwater planet? And, after sitting there for years untouched it just fires right up? (the action sequence afterward was awesome, though). The star killer weapon being able to be seen blow up planets from a different star system in real time? A droid that hangs out collecting dust in a corner comes to life for no particular reason and just happens to have the rest of the galaxy map?
Maybe I expected too much. My standards really aren't that high for this kind of movie.Luke at most gets a days instruction from Obiwan before he dies. Within 5 minutes he's blocking laser shots blindfolded. He flies a craft he's never seen before into his first combat mission and he not only survives unscathed, but he also hit a shot experienced pilots can't accomplish even with the aid of a computer. He of course does this by using his power in the force that he discovered the day before and has had one lesson in. He's also in numerous firefights with fighters which Obiwan notes for their precision. And let's not forget that he destroys the same number of fighters as Han despite the home turf advantage and Han's smuggling experience.Just watched ANH last night. While the big points are certainly derivative, ANH handles the finer details way better. Everything about the galaxy that we need to know is given in little tidbits. Nothing obtrusive like Senate hearings or long exposition. They have brief conversations (like Obiwan with the force and even Han interjecting skepticism) explaining key things. We don't need random characters coming up out of nowhere to say "hey I'm not going to tell you how I got this ligtsaber but the force yea you got it kid, so have this thing." We get the scene with the Imperial command debating the merits of kidnapping a senator and that set ups the entire power structure of the galaxy. Alderaan is mentioned by Obiwan at about the 40 min mark of the movie and it isn't destroyed till the 80 minute mark. We have a lot of time to digest that out heroes are headed to this planet and the Empire just destroys it merely as a test. We are invested in its destruction.This was a reboot. Pure and simple. I know not every reboot can match the new Point Break, but as noted, a new generation can now start where we did, and allow the new twists come with the final two. Top notch graphics to update from what had been, by far, the best ever... 40 years ago!the more I think about it, the more brilliant it was to rehash ANH. It brings the bond between the old (me) and new (my kids) together. In fact, we saw episode 7 one day after we watched episode 4. Neither of my kids mentioned one thing like, hey we saw this movie yesterday.I've said this before in here, ill say it again. Well done JJ. And im willing to bet that a large amount of people who say they didnt like it will still see 8 when it comes outYea I hate that Disney made a movie that they knew everybody would love.
Some of the comments in here are bordering on parody now.
I keep going back to the simplistic style of that original - its a galactic western. Good guys vs bad, boom boom KABOOM!
Plus, as a 42 year old, the scenes (i.e. going into the channels on the final approaches of the xwings) transported me back to being 5 years old and my first ever movie memories and emotions.
Luke was no where near overpowered. He hardly showed any force powers in the film at all. Once on the Falcon with the drone and at the end with the torpedo. But we hear from people like Biggs how good a pilot Luke really is. So its not a surprise when he is not only a mission to fly against the Empire ( cause let's face it they're desperate) but that he can hold his own. Yet even he still has trouble against a tie fighter and needs Wedge to bail him out. So he's not perfect.
Episode 7 is not a remake of ANH. They borrow lots of scenes and ideas from it and they keep it simple but TFA lacks the little details that made ANH great all for the sake of "mystery" and a big reveal later.
My rankings are still 5, 4, 6, 7, 3, 1, 2.
Some of ANH is campy nonsense. The whole part from the detention center to escape on the Falcon is that. We know AND see stormtroopers suck at their job throughout the whole series. So can't use the "Precision" line as serious.Luke at most gets a days instruction from Obiwan before he dies. Within 5 minutes he's blocking laser shots blindfolded. He flies a craft he's never seen before into his first combat mission and he not only survives unscathed, but he also hit a shot experienced pilots can't accomplish even with the aid of a computer. He of course does this by using his power in the force that he discovered the day before and has had one lesson in. He's also in numerous firefights with fighters which Obiwan notes for their precision. And let's not forget that he destroys the same number of fighters as Han despite the home turf advantage and Han's smuggling experience. Your other complaint is basically about a handful of lines in an over two hour movie.Just watched ANH last night. While the big points are certainly derivative, ANH handles the finer details way better. Everything about the galaxy that we need to know is given in little tidbits. Nothing obtrusive like Senate hearings or long exposition. They have brief conversations (like Obiwan with the force and even Han interjecting skepticism) explaining key things. We don't need random characters coming up out of nowhere to say "hey I'm not going to tell you how I got this ligtsaber but the force yea you got it kid, so have this thing." We get the scene with the Imperial command debating the merits of kidnapping a senator and that set ups the entire power structure of the galaxy. Alderaan is mentioned by Obiwan at about the 40 min mark of the movie and it isn't destroyed till the 80 minute mark. We have a lot of time to digest that out heroes are headed to this planet and the Empire just destroys it merely as a test. We are invested in its destruction.This was a reboot. Pure and simple. I know not every reboot can match the new Point Break, but as noted, a new generation can now start where we did, and allow the new twists come with the final two. Top notch graphics to update from what had been, by far, the best ever... 40 years ago!the more I think about it, the more brilliant it was to rehash ANH. It brings the bond between the old (me) and new (my kids) together. In fact, we saw episode 7 one day after we watched episode 4. Neither of my kids mentioned one thing like, hey we saw this movie yesterday.I've said this before in here, ill say it again. Well done JJ. And im willing to bet that a large amount of people who say they didnt like it will still see 8 when it comes outYea I hate that Disney made a movie that they knew everybody would love.
Some of the comments in here are bordering on parody now.
I keep going back to the simplistic style of that original - its a galactic western. Good guys vs bad, boom boom KABOOM!
Plus, as a 42 year old, the scenes (i.e. going into the channels on the final approaches of the xwings) transported me back to being 5 years old and my first ever movie memories and emotions.
Luke was no where near overpowered. He hardly showed any force powers in the film at all. Once on the Falcon with the drone and at the end with the torpedo. But we hear from people like Biggs how good a pilot Luke really is. So its not a surprise when he is not only a mission to fly against the Empire ( cause let's face it they're desperate) but that he can hold his own. Yet even he still has trouble against a tie fighter and needs Wedge to bail him out. So he's not perfect.
Episode 7 is not a remake of ANH. They borrow lots of scenes and ideas from it and they keep it simple but TFA lacks the little details that made ANH great all for the sake of "mystery" and a big reveal later.
My rankings are still 5, 4, 6, 7, 3, 1, 2.
