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The difference in size/proportion between Lupita and Maz is part of the technical challenge of remapping facial mocap from actor to target character. All interesting technical and creative achievements. And her body/costume is fully digital too. Not just a "little person" with head replacement.
"Hey Supreme Leader, we're trying to get this star killer thing going but, well we're over budget. Don't panic, we can get it done, we just need to take the hand rails off that cat walk suspended over a thousand foot drop though. We cool?"
I actually think the final moments, after he's stabbed but before he falls down the shaft is the best acting Ford did all movie.
The script tried to show Kylo Rens inferiority complex, but with so many people upset that Ren is a weak villain, this message was lost on a lot. Perhaps people viewing the movie over and over again will bring to light just how important his inferiority complex is to his character. But really, my only complaint about the movie is how this important aspect about such an important character was left to just a few lines to establish. It would have been much better if perhaps when Han and Leia were talking, a flash back is shown where Ben is young and can't seem to please his father (Han), or believes he is a failure even though Han doesn't think he is. Then, in the scene where Ren kills Han, it would have been better if Ren surrendered even more than he did in the movie. Perhaps completely let go of the lightsaber... they hug... and then begin walking side by side, leading the audience to believe Han succeeded... perhaps then switch to a scene of the X-wings making progress... then go back to Ren and Han, where Ren says something like "I'm sorry I failed you" to which Han replies "Son, you never failed me", which hearing it infuriates Ren so much that in a split second the light saber is in his hand and in Han's gut. That would have done a much better job of establishing Ren's inferiority complex than him changing his mind with no dialogue. With such a weak death of Han scene, Ren just comes across as a ####, and we're left to Rey telling him that he's afraid he'll never be as powerful as Darth Vader to understand why he's such a weak villain. The lines are there explaining why he's so weak, which makes him such an interesting character. But it could have been built up better so he doesn't come across as a weak character like so many are comprehending him to be. Again, perhaps repeated viewings will help people understand how interesting he is because of his weaknesses.
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I actually don't mind that Han's death had an artificial feel, because it helps to desensitize my connection to the character. Instead of feeling devastated about the loss of a beloved character, my attitude was more like "Oh, I guess Harrison Ford didn't want to do another sequel."
This would be absolutely atrocious.Jayrod said:
There's am interesting video in that page which shows the reactions of four CNN staffers seeing ANH for the first time. It highlights some stuff that is, I think, being missed by Insein, AD, and others who are big OT and EU fans but unhappy with the gaps in the plot of TFA; namely, how hugely important the shared experience was when the OT came out. The one gal has a complaint about what kind of farming they were doing on Tatooine. When everyone was talking about SW in 1977, she would have asked one of her friends about that and they would have been able to tell her maybe because they read the book. Another viewer complains about how easy it was to blow up the death star and the overlay is like "duh, because of the Force!"Shared experience and speculation/discussion is a HUGE part of the magic, and whatever flaws you see in TFA, you must admit that's happening now in reaction to this movie...and that's a good thing imo. It makes this special like many movies can't be, and the mystery is crucial to that experience. You give up some precision and let in some flaws when you leave some space for mystery. The payoff is worth it imo. And I'd posit that this space, this specialness, is not only where the magic comes from, it allowed the EU to exist and flourish for all these years - the desire to know more, to fill in those holes with depth, collectively, IS the magic.
At the risk of completely detailing this thread, I humbly suggest that perhaps the Force has something to do with these hard to believe coincidences.Like in real life.
He didn't change his mind imo. Just needed the strength to embrace the Dark Side (which is established in a couple prior scenes).
I wasn't really shocked at all by Han's death. He's the ANH version of Ben Kenobi, as Luke is the same as Yoda.
VeryThere's am interesting video in that page which shows the reactions of four CNN staffers seeing ANH for the first time. It highlights some stuff that is, I think, being missed by Insein, AD, and others who are big OT and EU fans but unhappy with the gaps in the plot of TFA; namely, how hugely important the shared experience was when the OT came out. The one gal has a complaint about what kind of farming they were doing on Tatooine. When everyone was talking about SW in 1977, she would have asked one of her friends about that and they would have been able to tell her maybe because they read the book. Another viewer complains about how easy it was to blow up the death star and the overlay is like "duh, because of the Force!"Shared experience and speculation/discussion is a HUGE part of the magic, and whatever flaws you see in TFA, you must admit that's happening now in reaction to this movie...and that's a good thing imo. It makes this special like many movies can't be, and the mystery is crucial to that experience. You give up some precision and let in some flaws when you leave some space for mystery. The payoff is worth it imo. And I'd posit that this space, this specialness, is not only where the magic comes from, it allowed the EU to exist and flourish for all these years - the desire to know more, to fill in those holes with depth, collectively, IS the magic.
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I'll grant that I'm not a Star Wars nerd to the degree that I've read as much EU stuff (can't believe I just typed that) as others here. So I could easily be wrong here.
If you recall, even Vader was conflicted. But Vader was also a Sith, with a Master that influenced and controlled him.
I agree. The whole "you were right... tell your sister you were right" last words of Vader are paramount to his character as a whole from beginning to end. Luke was right that there was still good in him. Vader's weakness was he was a control freak. He wanted control over things he had no control over. His mother dying. His fear of Padme dying. Obi Wan telling him what to do. He wasn't strong enough to overcome the emperor who was wise enough to manipulate Vader's control freak weakness. As the scene with Han and Ren showed, there is still good in Ren, but his inferiority complex doesn't need someone wise to manipulate. It manifests on it's own, which is why he has temper tantrums and randomly smashes things, where as Vader would choke people and kill people because he wants control over them.
Vader couldn't bring himself to kill Luke, nor did he kill Han or Chewie when he had the chance on Bespin. That's what made him redeemable. He was a bad guy, but he wasn't evil in the way that the Emperor or Grand Moff Tarkin were.That's a stark contrast to Kylo Ren, who had little problem killing his own father (not to mention the way he coldheartedly ordered the execution of innocent villagers on Jakku).
He slaughters the Jedi children at the temple. Even if you don't consider sand people real people (racist), killing hundreds of children in cold blood is pretty evil.
Yeah, even though we are to accept that Vader is evil i remember being pretty shocked that Lucas did that.
When Mace Windu says "Perhaps its time to inform the Senate our ability to use the force has diminished." I felt like Yoda should have said "smack you upside the head, I must." Why would you ever admit that?
"Hey, don't try that choke hold thing on me. If you don't like it you're going to have to take it up with Galactic Local 25^187".
Taking the divorce thing a little further, he sounds pissed that his kids' new dad is raising them better than he could and the neighborhood likes the kids better too.
What about when they find a bunch of clone soldiers out of nowhere and they're just like "Hey, we have a cool army now. What could possibly go wrong?"
And that's part of the reason why the prequels sucked so much! It ruined the character of Darth Vader. Return Of The Jedi was a satisfying conclusion to fans in 1983 because they were able to accept the possibility of Darth Vader being redeemed. But they would not have been so willing to accept that possibility if they'd known that he murdered baby sandpeople.
He killed Kenobi, his mentor, didn't care when Alderaan was destroyed, and tortured Leia in 4. He tortured Han and the encased him in carbonite without care of the potential to kill him and then he chopped off his own sons hand in 5. And let's recall he stops the fight on Bespin to turn Luke and get him to join him in killing his master. There's every indication that he's willing to kill Luke on that bridge. Frankly, rewatching the entire first trilogy, seeing Anakin alongside Ben and Yoda at the end is rather jarring. After all the bad stuff he does his full redemption just by destroying the emperor seems a bit unearned.
thank whatever deity you believe in that Lucas had no part of this. Sounds like a real nerfherder.
Vader was a mass murderer even before the prequels. The officially sanctioned books of the former EU told of how he went to worlds "persuaded" them to join the Empire or else. He also hunted down the few remaining Jedi and those that stood in his way didn't really get a polite please move aside.
Anakin was justified in killing the sandpeople because of what they did to his mother.
