Starting CJ, Housh and Henry (1 Viewer)

[valhallan]

I've had CJ and Henry for a while but a few weeks ago Housh joined my squad as part of a trade. I've been starting CJ and Housh with good results the last few games but now Henry is back I'm faced with some tough decisions. Start all three? Sit one for another serviceable receiver? Maybe, but who would sit? I decided to look at their stats from every week to see if there's an easy answer (PPR):

Wk Game CJ Housh Henry Total Avg (per receiver)1 at KC 11.2 -- 1.0 12.2 6.102 vs CLE 19.8 -- 16.3 36.1 18.053 at PIT 2.1 30.4 23.9 56.4 18.804 vs NE 12.4 13.5 -- 25.9 12.955 Bye6 at TB 15.9 26.2 -- 42.1 21.057 vs CAR 13.3 19.1 -- 32.4 16.208 vs ATL 19.8 13.6 19.1 52.5 17.50Note: I know the sample size is small, but that's part of FF. We never have enough stats to be sure about anything.CJ and Henry have had dud games, but Henry's came in week 1 so we can just chalk that up to rust. CJ's came in week 3 against the Steelers, but Housh and Henry more than made up for it.

Now, the average starter points for WRs in my league is 13.1. As you can see, the Cinci receivers have shown above average production every week except week 1 and just barely in week 4. When all three guys have played, they've produced an average of 18.15 points each!

This might not be Harrison/Wayne/Stokley circa 2004, but it's probably the closest we've seen. I might just start all three the week and hope they stay consistent.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I've had CJ and Henry for a while but a few weeks ago Housh joined my squad as part of a trade. I've been starting CJ and Housh with good results the last few games but now Henry is back I'm faced with some tough decisions. Start all three? Sit one for another serviceable receiver? Maybe, but who would sit? I decided to look at their stats from every week to see if there's an easy answer (PPR):

Wk Game CJ Housh Henry Total Avg (per receiver)1 at KC 11.2 -- 1.0 12.2 6.102 vs CLE 19.8 -- 16.3 36.1 18.053 at PIT 2.1 30.4 23.9 56.4 18.804 vs NE 12.4 13.5 -- 25.9 12.955 Bye6 at TB 15.9 26.2 -- 42.1 21.057 vs CAR 13.3 19.1 -- 32.4 16.208 vs ATL 19.8 13.6 19.1 52.5 17.50Note: I know the sample size is small, but that's part of FF. We never have enough stats to be sure about anything.CJ and Henry have had dud games, but Henry's came in week 1 so we can just chalk that up to rust. CJ's came in week 3 against the Steelers, but Housh and Henry more than made up for it.

Now, the average starter points for WRs in my league is 13.1. As you can see, the Cinci receivers have shown above average production every week except week 1 and just barely in week 4. When all three guys have played, they've produced an average of 18.15 points each!

This might not be Harrison/Wayne/Stokley circa 2004, but it's probably the closest we've seen. I might just start all three the week and hope they stay consistent.

The one thing you can be most likely assured of is that you'll go 100% as Carson Palmer goes. You'll basically get 80-90% of his production by starting these 3, so you will have the downside only if Palmer has a bad game. The upside is limited too since you are all about one game, but you know you won't likely "miss" a TD to someone else.I have CJ/Housh in one league, and Housh/Henry in another. Interesting dilemma.

 

[valhallan]

I've had CJ and Henry for a while but a few weeks ago Housh joined my squad as part of a trade. I've been starting CJ and Housh with good results the last few games but now Henry is back I'm faced with some tough decisions. Start all three? Sit one for another serviceable receiver? Maybe, but who would sit? I decided to look at their stats from every week to see if there's an easy answer (PPR):

Wk Game CJ Housh Henry Total Avg (per receiver)1 at KC 11.2 -- 1.0 12.2 6.102 vs CLE 19.8 -- 16.3 36.1 18.053 at PIT 2.1 30.4 23.9 56.4 18.804 vs NE 12.4 13.5 -- 25.9 12.955 Bye6 at TB 15.9 26.2 -- 42.1 21.057 vs CAR 13.3 19.1 -- 32.4 16.208 vs ATL 19.8 13.6 19.1 52.5 17.50Note: I know the sample size is small, but that's part of FF. We never have enough stats to be sure about anything.CJ and Henry have had dud games, but Henry's came in week 1 so we can just chalk that up to rust. CJ's came in week 3 against the Steelers, but Housh and Henry more than made up for it.

Now, the average starter points for WRs in my league is 13.1. As you can see, the Cinci receivers have shown above average production every week except week 1 and just barely in week 4. When all three guys have played, they've produced an average of 18.15 points each!

This might not be Harrison/Wayne/Stokley circa 2004, but it's probably the closest we've seen. I might just start all three the week and hope they stay consistent.

The one thing you can be most likely assured of is that you'll go 100% as Carson Palmer goes. You'll basically get 80-90% of his production by starting these 3, so you will have the downside only if Palmer has a bad game. The upside is limited too since you are all about one game, but you know you won't likely "miss" a TD to someone else.I have CJ/Housh in one league, and Housh/Henry in another. Interesting dilemma.

Interesting to note that Palmer was 2nd in completions per game last year and sits at 6th this year. Gotta love that in PPR.

 

[Longshot88]

I've had CJ and Henry for a while but a few weeks ago Housh joined my squad as part of a trade. I've been starting CJ and Housh with good results the last few games but now Henry is back I'm faced with some tough decisions. Start all three? Sit one for another serviceable receiver? Maybe, but who would sit? I decided to look at their stats from every week to see if there's an easy answer (PPR):

Wk Game CJ Housh Henry Total Avg (per receiver)1 at KC 11.2 -- 1.0 12.2 6.102 vs CLE 19.8 -- 16.3 36.1 18.053 at PIT 2.1 30.4 23.9 56.4 18.804 vs NE 12.4 13.5 -- 25.9 12.955 Bye6 at TB 15.9 26.2 -- 42.1 21.057 vs CAR 13.3 19.1 -- 32.4 16.208 vs ATL 19.8 13.6 19.1 52.5 17.50Note: I know the sample size is small, but that's part of FF. We never have enough stats to be sure about anything.CJ and Henry have had dud games, but Henry's came in week 1 so we can just chalk that up to rust. CJ's came in week 3 against the Steelers, but Housh and Henry more than made up for it.

Now, the average starter points for WRs in my league is 13.1. As you can see, the Cinci receivers have shown above average production every week except week 1 and just barely in week 4. When all three guys have played, they've produced an average of 18.15 points each!

This might not be Harrison/Wayne/Stokley circa 2004, but it's probably the closest we've seen. I might just start all three the week and hope they stay consistent.

i just aquired Harrison in a dynasty trade....and will be starting both harrison and wayne with no worries.....but i would worry about henry

 

[Tommy Collins]

I've had CJ and Henry for a while but a few weeks ago Housh joined my squad as part of a trade. I've been starting CJ and Housh with good results the last few games but now Henry is back I'm faced with some tough decisions. Start all three? Sit one for another serviceable receiver? Maybe, but who would sit? I decided to look at their stats from every week to see if there's an easy answer (PPR):

Wk Game CJ Housh Henry Total Avg (per receiver)1 at KC 11.2 -- 1.0 12.2 6.102 vs CLE 19.8 -- 16.3 36.1 18.053 at PIT 2.1 30.4 23.9 56.4 18.804 vs NE 12.4 13.5 -- 25.9 12.955 Bye6 at TB 15.9 26.2 -- 42.1 21.057 vs CAR 13.3 19.1 -- 32.4 16.208 vs ATL 19.8 13.6 19.1 52.5 17.50Note: I know the sample size is small, but that's part of FF. We never have enough stats to be sure about anything.CJ and Henry have had dud games, but Henry's came in week 1 so we can just chalk that up to rust. CJ's came in week 3 against the Steelers, but Housh and Henry more than made up for it.

Now, the average starter points for WRs in my league is 13.1. As you can see, the Cinci receivers have shown above average production every week except week 1 and just barely in week 4. When all three guys have played, they've produced an average of 18.15 points each!

This might not be Harrison/Wayne/Stokley circa 2004, but it's probably the closest we've seen. I might just start all three the week and hope they stay consistent.

If you're gonna chalk up Henry's first game to rust then you have to give CJ a pass on week 3. He suffered the concussion in week 2 vs. Cleveland and didn't seem to know anything in the post-game interview. There was a lot of talk about him being a decoy in the game and I didn't start him because of the concussion. I can't imagine too many people thought he'd have a good game against them after that hit vs. Cleveland.

 

[Biabreakable]

You do know the Bengals are playing the Ravens this week right?

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

You do know the Bengals are playing the Ravens this week right?

All of your WR eggs in one basket vs. Balt.? That's a tough one to swallow. GL.

 

[Bri]

Didn't Housh sit early on and Henry get suspended? So those stats are misleading in that they didn't really share the rock those weeks.

Have you considerred that valhallan? Still comfy with all 3?

 

[Doug Drinen]

You do know the Bengals are playing the Ravens this week right?

The Ravens have allowed more than 60 fantasy points (PPR) to wide receivers in each of the last two weeks, although they were quite a bit stingier before that:
OPP WK FPT---------------nor 8 61.4car 6 60.8den 5 24.3sdg 4 19.4cle 3 30.4rai 2 17.8tam 1 6.4Here is what the Bengal wide receivers as a whole have scored this season:

OPP  WK	 FPT---------------atl   8	51.9car   7	34.3tam   6	45.4nwe   4	31.7pit   3	56.4cle   2	61.5kan   1	18.7

Let's just assume that Kelly Washington (or whoever, is Washington still around?) gets cut out of the loop and you get 100% of the Bengal wide receiving production. They average around 43 points per game. Now, The Ravens D has been almost exactly average against WRs this year (using PPR scoring). So a naive estimate would be that a CJ/TJH/CH combo would get you around 43 points. If 13 per game is average for WRs in your league, then I'd say you could do worse.Yes, Palmer could have a bad day. Or Lewis could decide to get serious about running the ball. And these three guys could have a bad collective day (as the Bengals' WRs did in week 1). But whoever your alternatives are, they could all have bad days too.

As Pasquino noted above, the upside is limited. So the only reason you shouldn't do this is if you are a big underdog (assuming these three actually are your best WR options).

 

[valhallan]

Also, you can look back at Cinci's last few games against Balt. and see plenty of production from the receivers as the Ravens are one of the teams that play man-to-man and Palmer loves that.

Here it is:

CJ	 Housh2004   8/99/0   7/116/0	 10/161/2  10/171/12005   5/91/0	5/61/0	   5/88/1   9/147/1

 

[Sputnikv8]

So far, I hope you were able to change your lineup! Not looking good.

 

[valhallan]

Yeah, didn't start Henry. Might be better to try next week.

 

[valhallan]

Yeah, didn't start Henry. Might be better to try next week.

Looks like it would have worked

 

[Bri]

what did Henry wind up with? He stunk as they cut away from the game by me. Just after Housh got hurt

 

[ffweasel]

what did Henry wind up with? He stunk as they cut away from the game by me. Just after Housh got hurt

Henry had 2 catches for 18 yards and a TD. He dropped another TD later in the game.

 

[WampusCat43]

Henry ####ed out on two catches, including a potential TD. This coming after getting yelled at by Carson for the same thing last week. Kid has a world of talent, but no heart or brains.