Starting your kicker against your defense (1 Viewer)

[ColForbin]

Is it a bad move to start your kicker aginst your defense, because every FG and XP your kicker makes counts against defensive points?

or

Is it ok to play your kicker against your Def, because points would even out regardless of that they're going against each other?

Stover against the Panthers is my issue....both players that i don't wanna drop.

 

[Woz]

You start your best players against the best matchu-ups regardless of whether they are playing one another.

 

[w3junky]

ok, what kind of question is this? you don't play your kicker because he is going against your defense? who the hell cares!? you play the best player you have.

 

[username]

This just in. it's "fantasy" football, it's not real.

 

[Joe_]

right? This couldn't possibly be a serious question.

 

[SpaceCowboy]

I always try and field the fantasy team that I think will score the most amount of fantasy points. Call me crazy, but it HAS worked in the past.

 

[thayman]

I always try and field the fantasy team that I think will score the most amount of fantasy points. Call me crazy, but it HAS worked in the past.

ahhh...damn I knew I was missing something!! Perhaps I should try this strategy from now on.....

 

[CravenM]

I guess it depends on your scoring.

But I kind of like matching the Kicker with my best RB as long as the offense is performing. Therefore I grabbed Kaeding to match LT2.

I find it kind of levels out the predictable scoring instead of highs and lows. If the RB gets 3 TDs and the kicker gets 3 XPs, that's OK. If he gets 1 TD and the kicker gets 2 FGs and 1 XP, that's OK too.

 

[Bluestaples]

If a team has a chance of scoring against my DST - I'd rather take in 3 point intervals than in touchdowns.

 

[Marc Levin]

Less bad than QB v. D

Equally not a concern when you are setting your lineup.

For the last time - how YOU set YOUR fantasy lineup will not affect real life.

If you have strong feelings about your D, and would sit your QB if you were facing that D owned by an OPPONENT, then sit him. Otherrwise, it is not a concern. Same with the D - if your D was facing your QB owned by another owner and you would still play your D - then PLAY YOUR D against your QB.

If you would normally play Eli Manning against the Ravens, don't sit him just b/c you own the Ravens.

Same thing with your K.

 

[[scooter]]

You start your best players against the best matchu-ups regardless of whether they are playing one another.

Go to NFL.com and find out which defenses give up the most kicking opportunities. Then start the best available kicker that's playing against the worst possible defense.Example: the worst defenses (for kicking points) are Arizona, Detroit, Tampa, Oakland, and Washington. I'd try to find a decent kicker that's playing against one of those teams.Carolina is the 11th-worst defense, while Stover is the #13 kicker. I think you could find a better matchup.

 

[kupcho1]

For the last time - how YOU set YOUR fantasy lineup will not affect real life.

This really can't be said often enough around here. Suggest incorporating it into a banner ad or something that shows up repeatedly at the top of the forum.

 

[kutta]

Maybe I am missing something here, but no one can see the future. What you THINK will happen, does not mean it WILL happen. We are all just guessing.

So to say you should play the players who are going to score the most points is a little silly. You should play the guys who, collectively as a fantasy team, you think are going to score the most points. Obviously, if you start a K playing against your D, there is zero chance that both your K and D will score big. Since we are guessing anyway, why not try a different K or D for that week?

You should start the guys who COLLECTIVELY will score the most points.

 

[[scooter]]

Obviously, if you start a K playing against your D, there is zero chance that both your K and D will score big.

False.

 

[Marc Levin]

date='Oct 15 2006, 12:34 PM' post='5725420']

Obviously, if you start a K playing against your D, there is zero chance that both your K and D will score big.

False.

Couldn't BE more false.I can think of a LARGE NUMBER of scenarios where opposing K and D score big.Easiest one to imagine:A 15-21 game = K scoring big (he got at least 5 FGs!). If one of those TDs = score by D/ST, big day for both K and D.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

For the last time - how YOU set YOUR fantasy lineup will not affect real life.

This really can't be said often enough around here. Suggest incorporating it into a banner ad or something that shows up repeatedly at the top of the forum.

no disrespect to the op. variations of this question get asked a lot here. and i just don't get why.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

Some leagues have defensive scoring rules that would make this a legit question. My league I commish, we start @ 21 points allowed. If a team ends up giving up 10 points it gets 11 points. By the same token, if a team gives up 42 points, it gets -21 points.

It sounds crazy, but it makes having a good all-around team more important than having 2 stud RBs, etc and riding them.

So, in my league, using that scoring system for defenses, it's futile to start anyone against your own defense. There is no scenario where Player X (K, TE, RB, etc.) performs well and your DEF has a good day when they play each other.......I guess if your RB went off for like 200 yards and his team only scored 14 points, but that is not likely. Every TD that player would score is negated on your DEF.

Questions like this should not be dumped on automatically......every league does not score defense the same way.

 

[Marc Levin]

Kevin - if you have a screwy scoring system like this, you need to phrase your OPENING POST to indicate that.

And, under specific scoring rules such as you have, the question then really becomes a WDIS question and is (arguably) in the wrong forum.

As a "general strategy" question, the question can, actually, be dismissed out of hand.

 

[Marc Levin]

it's futile to start anyone against your own defense. There is no scenario where Player X (K, TE, RB, etc.) performs well and your DEF has a good day when they play each other.......

Also, my scenario above with a K going for 4/5 FGs and the D/ST scoring a TD = great day for both K and D even under YOUR scoring system.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

it's futile to start anyone against your own defense. There is no scenario where Player X (K, TE, RB, etc.) performs well and your DEF has a good day when they play each other.......

Also, my scenario above with a K going for 4/5 FGs and the D/ST scoring a TD = great day for both K and D even under YOUR scoring system.

But I would still lose 12 ponts off my DEF....I'm greedy. I would rather play a PK who isn't playing my DEF and roll the dice.And I agree on your response about the OP's phrasing of the question.

 

[[scooter]]

it's futile to start anyone against your own defense. There is no scenario where Player X (K, TE, RB, etc.) performs well and your DEF has a good day when they play each other.......

Also, my scenario above with a K going for 4/5 FGs and the D/ST scoring a TD = great day for both K and D even under YOUR scoring system.

 

[[scooter]]

it's futile to start anyone against your own defense. There is no scenario where Player X (K, TE, RB, etc.) performs well and your DEF has a good day when they play each other.......

Also, my scenario above with a K going for 4/5 FGs and the D/ST scoring a TD = great day for both K and D even under YOUR scoring system.

But I would still lose 12 ponts off my DEF....I'm greedy. I would rather play a PK who isn't playing my DEF and roll the dice.

So you'd rather give up the 12-15 points that you got out of your kicker, because you think there's another kicker out there that might score more?

 

[Marc Levin]

it's futile to start anyone against your own defense. There is no scenario where Player X (K, TE, RB, etc.) performs well and your DEF has a good day when they play each other.......

Also, my scenario above with a K going for 4/5 FGs and the D/ST scoring a TD = great day for both K and D even under YOUR scoring system.

But I would still lose 12 ponts off my DEF....I'm greedy. I would rather play a PK who isn't playing my DEF and roll the dice.

what [scooter] said - why would you hope for your K to get shut out? regardlesds of whether you started him?And who keeps two Ks on their roster except IN your foirst K's bye week.Heck, in small roster leagues, most of us keep one K and one D - use our roster spots for b/u skill spots with upside.It is really a silly question - if your K is not scoring well enough that he can be replaced in your starting lineup then go ahead and replace him if it helps you sleep better at night. But, there is no real "fantasy football" reason to sit either your D or your K/QB simply because they are starting for your squad and not your opponent's.

 

[top dog]

This is called OVER-ANALYZING.

* edited because I didn't over-analyze my poor spelling.

 

[Marc Levin]

or over-anal"y"zing if speaking English.

P.S. - anal"i"zing is a very very dirty term.

 

[top dog]

or over-anal"y"zing if speaking English.P.S. - anal"i"zing is a very very dirty term.

Depends on how you look at it I suppose.

 

[Marc Levin]

or over-anal"y"zing if speaking English.P.S. - anal"i"zing is a very very dirty term.

Depends on how you look at it I suppose.

I think if you look at it positively or negatively, it is a very dirty term - one way or another, something is getting dirty (might even ultimately be called "Sanchez")