Stat Correction Not Applied? (1 Viewer)

[packseasontix]

So after following tonight I thought I finished .3 points out of the playoffs. That was until I thought about stat corrections and noticed we never once the whole season applied them.

After going through each week between my team and his I found a few stat corrections:

Week 4-

Charles instead of 92 should be 88 = -.4

Week 5-

Charles instead of 3 receptions should be 2 = -1

Week 7-

Stafford instead of 23 should be 21 rushing yards = -.2

Stafford instead of 261 should be 263 Passing Yards = ??

Week 11-

Kaepernick instead of 12 should be 10 rushing yards = -.2

He has Charles and Kaepernick and I have Stafford, after I took these into account I was up by 1.1

So the question is, should this need to be in the rules? Stat corrections are because of errors in scoring on sunday so I feel they should be. No ruling yet by the commish but lets just say this will be a heated topic for me.

 

[elshagon]

If it hasn't been stated in the formal or informal rules plus not having been applied all season I don't see how you can go back and apply the changes now. It would be a different story if it had been stated in the rules. In our league we agreed to only check for stat changes on close games week to week and then only apply them if the nfl has made the changes before kickoff the following Sunday.

 

[SameSongNDance]

It's a bit late IMO but not taking stat corrections into account from the get-go is asinine.

 

[Not Sleeping]

So after following tonight I thought I finished .3 points out of the playoffs. That was until I thought about stat corrections and noticed we never once the whole season applied them.After going through each week between my team and his I found a few stat corrections:Week 4-Charles instead of 92 should be 88 = -.4Week 5-Charles instead of 3 receptions should be 2 = -1Week 7-Stafford instead of 23 should be 21 rushing yards = -.2Stafford instead of 261 should be 263 Passing Yards = ??Week 11- Kaepernick instead of 12 should be 10 rushing yards = -.2He has Charles and Kaepernick and I have Stafford, after I took these into account I was up by 1.1So the question is, should this need to be in the rules? Stat corrections are because of errors in scoring on sunday so I feel they should be. No ruling yet by the commish but lets just say this will be a heated topic for me.

Your poll is flawed (that's what she said!)1) You need to have an option for "It's too late to ask for stat corrections now"2) Every major FF website provider applies stat corrections automatically. What league are you playing in?3) If you didn't originally ##### to your commissioner about stat corrections not being applied in a timely manner, you are not sufficiently addicted to this game to even worry about it.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

In a total points league there is absolutely no reason for not applying stats changes.

In H2H I still think they should be applied, but can at least see the argument of wanting games finalized before Thursday.

That said, you could be in for an ugly fight.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

2) Every major FF website provider applies stat corrections automatically. What league are you playing in?

I don't know about the others, but in MFL it's an option to have them applied automatically.

 

[GregR]

First, leagues should not go back and retroactively change scores after the next week of games have started. There has to be a point they are final, and that's the most reasonable one.

Second, a league shouldn't allow in season a rule change that affects scoring without a unanimous vote. And such a rule change should only apply going forward, not retroactive without extreme extenuating circumstances. Which this isn't even close to.

If your league has in its rules that stat changes will be applied, and they haven't, then there's an argument this current week's changes should be applied. But that's about the best I'd say anyone can make an argument to that should be given any consideration.

I can't really say this without it beingtaken personally I imagine, but I don't mean offense by it. If you pursue this, you will look VERY VERY BAD in everyone else's eyes. You will look like someone who just wants to rules lawyer himself to a win, irregardless of what is just or reasonable. You will look selfish and come off like a pain in the ###, the kind that many people would rather just not have to deal with.

Don't do it. Being a commish is a big enough pain sometimes, without people resorting to behaving this like. I realize it's frustrating to not make the playoffs, but you didn't make it playing by the same rules that everyone else did all year. If someone else demanded changing how a year's worth of scoring was done because it got him a playoff spot and took one from you, think of what your opinion of him would be. Yes, that's exactly how you'll look to everyone else if you pursue this.

Again, I don't mean that personally, and am only being blunt in the hopes it helps you move forward without straining relationships in your league.

Good luck, whatever you decide to do.

 

[Not Sleeping]

First, leagues should not go back and retroactively change scores after the next week of games have started. There has to be a point they are final, and that's the most reasonable one.Second, a league shouldn't allow in season a rule change that affects scoring without a unanimous vote. And such a rule change should only apply going forward, not retroactive without extreme extenuating circumstances. Which this isn't even close to.If your league has in its rules that stat changes will be applied, and they haven't, then there's an argument this current week's changes should be applied. But that's about the best I'd say anyone can make an argument to that should be given any consideration.I can't really say this without it beingtaken personally I imagine, but I don't mean offense by it. If you pursue this, you will look VERY VERY BAD in everyone else's eyes. You will look like someone who just wants to rules lawyer himself to a win, irregardless of what is just or reasonable. You will look selfish and come off like a pain in the ###, the kind that many people would rather just not have to deal with.Don't do it. Being a commish is a big enough pain sometimes, without people resorting to behaving this like. I realize it's frustrating to not make the playoffs, but you didn't make it playing by the same rules that everyone else did all year. If someone else demanded changing how a year's worth of scoring was done because it got him a playoff spot and took one from you, think of what your opinion of him would be. Yes, that's exactly how you'll look to everyone else if you pursue this.Again, I don't mean that personally, and am only being blunt in the hopes it helps you move forward without straining relationships in your league.Good luck, whatever you decide to do.

I'll say it personally then. Packseasontix...stop being a #####.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I don't know how you can call a guy a ##### if he's upset about losing money over incorrect stats.

 

[Wadsworth]

First, leagues should not go back and retroactively change scores after the next week of games have started. There has to be a point they are final, and that's the most reasonable one.Second, a league shouldn't allow in season a rule change that affects scoring without a unanimous vote. And such a rule change should only apply going forward, not retroactive without extreme extenuating circumstances. Which this isn't even close to.If your league has in its rules that stat changes will be applied, and they haven't, then there's an argument this current week's changes should be applied. But that's about the best I'd say anyone can make an argument to that should be given any consideration.I can't really say this without it beingtaken personally I imagine, but I don't mean offense by it. If you pursue this, you will look VERY VERY BAD in everyone else's eyes. You will look like someone who just wants to rules lawyer himself to a win, irregardless of what is just or reasonable. You will look selfish and come off like a pain in the ###, the kind that many people would rather just not have to deal with.Don't do it. Being a commish is a big enough pain sometimes, without people resorting to behaving this like. I realize it's frustrating to not make the playoffs, but you didn't make it playing by the same rules that everyone else did all year. If someone else demanded changing how a year's worth of scoring was done because it got him a playoff spot and took one from you, think of what your opinion of him would be. Yes, that's exactly how you'll look to everyone else if you pursue this.Again, I don't mean that personally, and am only being blunt in the hopes it helps you move forward without straining relationships in your league.Good luck, whatever you decide to do.

Let the other owners know of the situation and recommend a rules change for next season to address any problems you see. But don't be that guy. You had 12 weeks to bring it up without looking like a tool. Making an issue of now is not going to help anything.

 

[Not Sleeping]

I don't know how you can call a guy a ##### if he's upset about losing money over incorrect stats.

OK, ##### is a little harsh. But I just can't imagine playing in a league that doesn't apply weekly stat corrections automatically. And if that's the way it was all year, it seems a little late to complain now.

 

[Jefferson the Caregiver]

Just play in a league that has good enough software to correct stats automatically.

It's too much to ask for the Commish to do this week to week and leaves a lot of room for error.

Besides if you found 4 points in stats corrections than certainly other owners left points out there too.

Lastly, the correction should never get applied after the next week's game kicks off. Going back and looking through past logs at this point is pretty lame.

 

[iamkoza]

Just play in a league that has good enough software to correct stats automatically.

agree, this would have fixed your problems automatically and having the site do this for you removes you from the situation

 

[packseasontix]

So an update to this:

1. I did bring it up as this is a money league

2. I posted the outline of it wasn't done all season

3. Posted what I found that would effect the tiebreaker

4. 2 people who have responded didnt even realize that it wasn't automatic in our league

 

[ImTheScientist]

Nobody cares about your league or team.

 

[RUSF18]

So an update to this:1. I did bring it up as this is a money league2. I posted the outline of it wasn't done all season3. Posted what I found that would effect the tiebreaker4. 2 people who have responded didnt even realize that it wasn't automatic in our league

Is this only a total points league, or do you have the same record and you're using points as the tiebreaker?If it's the latter, make sure you go through all of your matchups to see if any stat corrections that could have benefited your opponent and would have turned a win into a loss. Would be a ##### move to only present one side.

 

[letter_j]

It's a bit late IMO but not taking stat corrections into account from the get-go is asinine.

Nobody cares about your league or team.

 

[letter_j]

But I do feel bad that somebody got screwed out of a playoff spot due to stat corrections...

 

[packseasontix]

Also in the end I can care less if I come off as whiny as I am not throwing a fit. I am simply stating the facts and the fact that we are using incorrect scoring.

Because we are using H2H scoring and the only stat correction for me was one week where I won by like 40+ I was hardly looking to see if we had stat corrections. So it might be my fault that I didnt catch no stat correction earlier in the year but oh well.

Just to add I can see why people dont want to go back and change scores but when this season comes down to .3 and we use decimal scoring I think I have the right in the league to expect the scores to be correct.

In the end I am just informing my leaguemates of what happened for them to come to their own conclusions and so far it seems that they are unaware that we don't automatically use the stat corrections.

FYI this is MFL and the commish needs to setup having the automatic stat corrections.

 

[packseasontix]

So an update to this:1. I did bring it up as this is a money league2. I posted the outline of it wasn't done all season3. Posted what I found that would effect the tiebreaker4. 2 people who have responded didnt even realize that it wasn't automatic in our league

Is this only a total points league, or do you have the same record and you're using points as the tiebreaker?If it's the latter, make sure you go through all of your matchups to see if any stat corrections that could have benefited your opponent and would have turned a win into a loss. Would be a ##### move to only present one side.

Nope I looked up all his and mine. I had a correction with Stafford from when I looked through and prsented that.This is a H2H league where the total points is the tie-breaker.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I lost my division by .5 last night. When do stat corrections come out, Tuesday? Any potential ones that you can think of?

 

[Wadsworth]

Also in the end I can care less if I come off as whiny as I am not throwing a fit.

I am guessing you meant you could not care less. But I think most of us are aware that you are not concerned about sounding whiny. Throwing a fit or not, you had a chance to address this issue all season and did not until you barely missed the playoffs. Your actions now are going to be seen by most as small and motivated by personal interest rather than a fair resolution no matter how you handle it.

 

[steveski]

It SHOULD have been applied always, but it wasn't, so it shouldn't be applied now since it wasn't done and it isn't written in the rules. So I guess I select all of your answers?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

So are there any stat corrections for week 13??

 

[GregR]

So are there any stat corrections for week 13??

They become available on most sites Thursday morning.Though I already heard that JJ Watt is gaining a sack as he forced a Jake Locker fumble but wasn't credited with one at the time.

 

[MCguidance]

They should be applied next year. Can't cry over something that was the same for everyone, regardless if it was right or wrong. Don't even bring it up, you won't come across very well.

 

[Warrior]

You don't have a case. You went back AFTER the regular season was over and want changes? The time for that was 13 weeks ago. You're too late. Take it like a man and ask the commish to apply it next season.

/thread

 

[jagbag]

It has to be in your rules to start the season.

No complaining now. If someone else had brought this up

and you were in his position you would be pissed.

I have it in our rules that all games are final as of 12 noon on Tuesday.

No waiting around until Thursday to finalize games.

Also we have waivers on Tues,Wed that could be affected.

Some of you think this is wrong but it's in the rules and everyone lives by it.

 

[BobbyLayne]

So an update to this:1. I did bring it up as this is a money league2. I posted the outline of it wasn't done all season3. Posted what I found that would effect the tiebreaker4. 2 people who have responded didnt even realize that it wasn't automatic in our league

Is this only a total points league, or do you have the same record and you're using points as the tiebreaker?If it's the latter, make sure you go through all of your matchups to see if any stat corrections that could have benefited your opponent and would have turned a win into a loss. Would be a ##### move to only present one side.

Don't forget to check the other 65 H2H games in the league as well.

 

[lod01]

Don't forget to check the other 65 H2H games in the league as well.

Exactly. Maybe some other team jumped ahead of both the teams you checked. Get back with us on that one when you are done. Every game must be checked. Gotta be more than 65 too.